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Mr.Riley

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Daily Survival Scenario
« on: September 20, 2008, 10:34:53 PM »
Each day the first person to post on the thread for the day will post a SHTF scenario. The rest of us will post what we will need to do to survive. This is just an idea, it might fail and it might be cool IDK but well give it a shot so here we go.

Total financial failure and economic break down. The stock market drops to a point were everything bottoms out. Gas sky rockets, food and water cost 10 times as much as they do today, riots break out, and FEMA cant help... What do you do?

(Dont pick apart the post just answer as if Im not ignorant of the process' and repercussions of total financial failure and economic break down)   

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 02:47:38 PM »
I have some pretty good neighbors around me here.
Most of us would try to band together for defense, food sharing & I guess I'd have to break open the old well in back of my house & get it working.

At least one of us has a generator & that could be used to keep food cold & keep radios operating & charge up batteries, etc...
If money is no good anymore then I, myself, am a pretty good barterer(been doing it a long time now) & we could gather up supplies for trade to others for things we need. We also have a good pool of skills amongst us. Medical, auto, construction, etc...

Well that's a start. Anyone else care to chime in?

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 02:54:20 PM »
I have a few families in my church that are farmers and a few more that are survivalist at heart. I think the first thing i would do is setup shop at the church (cuz thats where most in need would go) while at the same time sending out scouts to communicate with the families that are self reliant. thats where I would start so that we could get a homestead big enough for the church congregation started. In the mean time I would ration my stock of water until we could get some guys together at the homestead to start harvesting food and water. It would be a rough transition but i think after a few rough months we would get into a flow and setup a organized leadership.

to be honest i would love to get back to that anyway...

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 05:21:56 PM »
If there was a break down in society I'd start with the neighborhood watch group.  Secure the perimeter of my neighborhood, survey skill sets, and work strictly from the inside ---out.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 07:57:56 PM »
Acess the situation, stay calm, and from the items in my home gather whatever extra materials needed to get through.  My only concern would be the kids being between the school and home on the bus.  After gathering all the family, we'd then re-acess the situation and make sure any confilct wasn't approaching our area.  We have planned incase this happened and we will use our back alley map (we call it) to get to my sister's farm to meet them there.  (for those that don't know what a back alley map is...it's one that stays off the main roads, and away from larger cities that would likely be hot spots.)   
Items that I would bring along that is not in my BOB bag...seeds, family papers, the food we have, and my hefty supply of toilet paper. 

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2008, 08:55:27 AM »
If the scenario you mention ever happen (when it happens), it would take a few days to get to the point where people start rioting.  At that point, I'll be glad I'm in a smaller city rather than a city like Houston where I used to live.  We're about 2 minutes from "the country", living at the northeast end of town.  If it gets to a point where people start getting violent, I'll make sure we're well holed-in.  I am also hoping that this scenario is quite a ways out so I'm ready for it.  I have assets I can trade in kind with other people.  I would just like time to set up a garden (going to do a fall run this year once things cool down) so I have more food on hand and something "tradeable" aside from shiny things (silver, jewelry, etc).  Cooperative living may be what gets us through the rough patches.  Being an Alpha, I'd definitely be among the ones organizing a neighborhood to help keep people safe in our area.  If things get bad enough, make sure the truck is full on gas and make the 30 minute run to my friend's place.  It's pretty easy to fortify, is way off the beaten path, plus he will have brought his arsenal as well as his ammo cache and reloading equipment.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2008, 12:22:20 PM »
I'd first make sure all the people I care about are in close proximity. Certain family members and a few of my freinds have worked on the idea of a mutual assistance group to help with defense, neighborhood security, information,inventory of supplies.
I suppose that would go into action.
We've tried our best to come up with an alternate form of communication other than a phone system. A CB or HAM radio setup with an alternate powersource would be good to have set up, so folks further out but still in your area could give you and yours a head-up of anything headed toward your neighborhood from the city. (I'm in a very rural area.)
So many unknown factors that you'll never think of until it comes up.  :)

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2008, 07:40:38 AM »
NEW SCENARIO:

You're out of town (at least 40 miles from home) on a weekday morning, you stop in a local diner to grab a quick bite, when suddenly everything shuts off. EVERYTHING. Lights, Power, Phones, Cell Phones, Watches, anything that has circuitry is out.
It's an E.M.P. (electromagnetic pulse) burst.
No vehicles with electronic ignition (which rules out pretty much every car since the mid-80's.) Wherever you are going, you'll be walking there.
 
What's your first move?
« Last Edit: September 23, 2008, 07:45:03 AM by patriot2980 »

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2008, 08:14:07 AM »
Tell the waitress I'd like my order "To Go". ;D Load up on crackers and sugar packets ;), fill the water bottles in my BOB, get my maps and compass out of my BOB, strap on my BOB and start walking towards home staying as far away from populated areas as possible.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2008, 01:55:13 PM »
I think ppl have a better chance for survival if they stick together. I think that a resturant in the country is probably a good place to be but you would eventually want to get to your BOL or at least home. Heres what I would do if I had my family:
1. Take command of the situation or determine if there is a more fit leader present. And asses skill sets.
2. Send out a working vehicle to a larger area to find out what happened.
3. Take inventory of food and water and figure how long everyone would be able to survive on available stock. (that would help to determine if moving was urgent or if it could wait) (if I did not have my family with me moving would be urgent and in that case I would have to negociate with those in the diner on what supplies they would allow me to take to get to my family)
4. (if I didnt know the area) Survey the surrounding area's.
5. Connect with local law enforcement if possible.
(6) If it was an attack we would need to secure any weapons we could.
7. Get to my family
     a. take what water I could carry and a little food and a weapon if possible

It would probably be a good idea to leave something that would communicate my direction or my route to anyone looking for me if they were to show up at the diner later looking for me.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2008, 02:32:05 PM »
I'd have to disagree with staying put in this situation.  If I'm 40 miles from home, I can probably make that in four days max.  I'm going to want to be home before people figure out just how screwed they are and start to panic.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2008, 02:43:22 PM »
that would depend on if the diner was in the country or not... if not then yea you want to get out of there asap but if it was in the country or outskirts then you have a little time to play with. Well.... if your house was in the city then you might not want to go home at all for a while. Thats were the BOL comes in handy

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2008, 02:56:47 PM »
(I'm assuming w/o family around)  I think I'd try and buy a bicycle from someone.  I should be able to make the distance in a day pretty easily  (unless on the south side of Austin, 40mi away...then I'd go AROUND).  Chances are they didn't attack po-dunk town so it was a big hit.  My house would be affected and my wife would be in town.  I'd secure the boys first (daycare is a mile from the house and I'd walk them there).  Then, secure the property and wait for Mommy to come home.  No comms, so no way of knowing when that would be.  She will know the boys take precedence and she has to make it home on her own.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2008, 03:20:10 PM »
I'm fortunate enough that my home is far enough removed from any major cities, it's going to take a while before people start behaving very badly around me.  Or, at least, I'd like to think so.  That's why the majority of my plans start with "Get Home".

I have a very difficult time envisioning myself staying put anywhere but home.  And it would take an awful lot to get me to leave my home if I were there already.

I think TIME is a huge factor in determining how well you'll weather a situation.  I don't like the idea of wasting it trying to get those around me organized.  Maybe it's just my misanthropic nature, but I don't really feel there is safety in numbers, if those "numbers" are the general public.  It's been my experience that the more people you have in one place, the lower the mean intelligence level is for that group.  And the larger the group of people, the more likely you'll have someone in the group lose their freakin' mind with panic.  And that is something I have absolutely no desire to be around.

I stand by my plan to bolt.

That fact that there are no comm's only makes it more imperative that you and your family have a plan in place for just such an event.  The last thing anyone wants to do is sit around wondering where their SO is.

And yeah, buy a bicycle.  That's a great idea.

As I think about all of this, I think I should add...Ditch everything electronic on your person or in your BOB if it doesn't work.  I have yet to see anything definitive on exactly how an EMP strike will affect everything.  But, that a whole other discussion....

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2008, 03:32:55 PM »
I have people I know at 5,10 & 20 mile increments so I would access the situation, see what store I could find with shopping carts, Talk to the manager about renting one.  Gather the kids in the cart, get my supply bag and walk to my nearest friend.  I've walked 20 miles in 8 hours before so that's a 2 day walk.   If I look like a bag lady maybe folks will leave me alone to walk.  Remember to use what you have and what you can find.  That 20 mile walk may be only a 5 if you know someone close.


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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 03:35:19 PM »
Finish my meal. Get what ever I need "to go" that i am missing from my BOB, or want to expand on i.e. water or snacks??  Can i get a bicycle?  Worth a try.  Leave message in car, time left, direction of travel. Put key under left front tyre as per SOP's.  Put on my pack and start humping.  Assuming it is not a major nuclear exchange or a dirty bomb near enough to effect you, i suggest moving early will let you get a good few miles under your belt before the masses realise what is going on.  Avoiding major roads and towns if possible is a good idea.

Depending when in the day you start (was i having breakfast at the diner?) and level of fitness, you could get home in 2 long days.  It would be worth pushing hard to get back as soon as possible.  Bivvy up the first night off the road and away from habitation.

If some deterioration in the situation had happened prior to the EMP or there was some warning then you may possibly have a fire arm with you.  All my BOB have a machete in them, superb bush craft tool and better than nothing for self defence in extreme circumstances.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 08:42:51 PM »
Depepending on how far away I was from a large metropolitan area, and whether I had to go toward it to get home, and presuming that this was a preemptive strike, I think I would stay put and see what else was going to happen.  I'd give it a few hours, because whoever did this was going to loose the element of surprise after that, I would take every defensive tool I could find at the diner, get my bug out bag, head for home or the location that my family and I have agreed to meet up if something like this ever did happen.  If I didn't come home, they would know where to find me and vice versa.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 09:59:03 PM »
finish eating and start walking. 40 miles? I'll be home the next morning. By then the rest of the MAG should be showing up.

Too soon to have to worry about the human scum. That'll take a few days to reach my area. I'm on the out skirts of a small town. Feel sory the ones stuck in or near a big city though. The human rats come out to play early there.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 10:12:38 PM »
I think the idea of staying and determining what happened would be important because if it was an attack you would have to get a good idea of what was going on before you set out on foot or bike...

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2008, 04:48:05 AM »
Have to disagree...  =-]

Getting to my children is priority number one.  I'll adapt as necessary to make sure I can get there quickly.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2008, 09:04:39 AM »
Okay let me clarify what I mean...

If without my family (your right) my family is my number 1 priority
If with my family stay put

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2008, 09:10:16 AM »
Roger, Roger...

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2008, 09:12:58 AM »
Isn't this supposed to be the DAILY survival scenario?  New day...new scenario...'nuff said.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2008, 01:15:24 PM »
the first person that posts on the thread is sposed to come up with the scenario.

Ill do this one for today.

Nuke! 3 of them. One in Denver, one in NY city, and one in Washington DC. You are at work when they hit. Lets just say everyone works 15 minutes from home and it school has just let out. News has announced that we are under attack but we only know of 3 cities.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2008, 04:04:45 PM »
Denver is a mere 250 miles from me. Time is short to get bunkered in.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2008, 05:48:12 PM »
Well, I do live only 15 minutes from work, and my kid's school is 15 minutes in the opposite direction if you put my home in the middle.  I live within 50 miles of a rather large military arsenal so I don't think I want to be here long for fear they would strike there eventually  Coastal areas are prime areas for invasions aren't they?  ::)  I'm not sure what I'd do quite honestly.  Is this survivable?  My father was one of the local Civil Defense heads in our small town during the 60's and even as a child I thought that it wasn't one of those situations that would be survivable.  I did think it was cool he had a geiger counter.  ;D

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2008, 05:56:13 PM »
After a few more minutes of thinking... while I hear the news...this scenario makes economic meltdown look easy to me. 

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2008, 06:49:29 PM »
I would have a couple of hours since I am in between Denver and Washington.  Gulf Stream moves from west to east, so really, all I would have to worry about is fall out from Denver and another attack.  Move the dining room table to an inner room, put my arsenal of lead on top of and around the sides, put some food, water  and a hand crank radio in-move the rest of my food to close proximity.  put the water on top of the lead, put plastic up over windows, plug all air vents, fill everything I can with water, plug all cell phones into chargers, get batteries, flashlights, get my family under the table and wait for word on what to do next.

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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2008, 09:25:41 AM »
Today's Scenario:
It's 3 days after the market melts down.  Banks are closing, Civil unrest is breaking out in major cities.  Businesses are closing, Teamsters are shutting down trucks that are on the roads.  Fuel impossible to find.   Small school systems are closing down.  Police are overwhelmed, and martial law is declared.



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Re: Daily Survival Scenario
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2008, 09:39:51 AM »
Oh I wouldn't worry about that too much.  Why...just last night GW said we'd be fine. ::)

Bug the heck IN!!! ;D

Seriously though.  Stay home.  Don't venture out into the streets if you don't have to.  Hopefully you've seen it coming and are supplied enough to ride out the worst of the rioting and lawlessness until things normalize a bit.  You're probably going to want 24/7 watches.  I know I would.  Even though we're just outside a VERY small town, I'm still going to be keeping my eyes open for trouble.  I'd be trying to keep as low a profile as possible.