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Offline surfivor

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Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« on: April 05, 2020, 07:58:14 AM »

Communism the real threat?

https://kprcradio.iheart.com/featured/walton-and-johnson/content/2020-04-03-hungry-broke-vermont-deems-seeds-nonessential-during-crisis/

According to management at a Burlington, Vermont Walmart, seeds (the source of all non-meat related food) are nonessential and the sale of said items must be banned.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2020, 09:15:07 AM »
buy them from somewhere besides walmart?  it sounds like it is the store manager who made that decision, not the .gov?

also... clothes... I have 4 growing children.  Who need new clothes.  Sure, it is mostly the elders who cannot wear their sibs hand-me-downs, but even so... after 2 older sisters, my youngest needs a few new pairs of pants

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2020, 09:17:12 AM »
BS

1. The article itself said that they could be sold curbsideor  delivery.

2. Most places deem businesses essential, not tgeir products.  Bass pro is essential here because of the firearms counter.  Nobody is stopping you from buying something else from them.

3.  Why the heck, besides your own paranoia, would anyone think this has a dang thing to do with seeds.  States and municipalities are making decisions on the fly on how to deal with the transmission of this virus...of course they have not thought through the implications of every product on sale at a megastore.  I think they are being foolish to restrict sales of anything in an essential business, but why do you see anything other than scared policy makers doing scared...and therefore stupid, policy things?

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2020, 12:41:30 PM »
Since I don't trust anything I see on the Internet, I investigated the seeds issue.  And it's true, sort of.

On 3/31 the VT Agency of Commerce and Community Development did issue a directive that large big-box retailers must stop in-person sales of "non-essential" items including their home and garden departments.

However, this seems to directly contradict the exceptions allowed in the Governor's executive order, which allows retail sales of undefined "essential supplies", and specifically lists "agriculture and farms, animal shelters, production and delivery of seed, chemicals and fertilizers".

I am guessing that if Walmart just set up a rack of vegetable and herb seeds in the produce department, the jack-booted thugs would not make a fuss.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2020, 05:11:48 PM »
Let a few folks start running around without clothes, and watch state gov decide they're essential after all.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2020, 05:08:11 PM »
I read yesterday that the MI governor gal banned seeds and paint sales.  ???

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2020, 05:33:53 PM »
Also, are they trying to ban e-sales?

For instance, here, Wal-Mart is actually doing delivery and there is not a fundamental difference between the local delivery service and ordering e-commerce delivery by mail.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2020, 05:48:25 PM »
No idea yet. I just ordered onion sets last week online (gardening direct). No one local nor walmart web had any. Amazon third party sellers were a joke on their pricing.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2020, 07:11:55 PM »
I read yesterday that the MI governor gal banned seeds and paint sales.  ???

she also banned baby carseats as non-essential  ::)

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2020, 08:17:21 PM »
she also banned baby carseats as non-essential  ::)


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Guess she has nothing better to do.....

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2020, 02:21:25 AM »
Just more confusion.

https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/can-you-buy-seeds-michigan-confusion-reigns-over-whitmer-stay-home-order

"In an email to Bridge, Whitmer spokeswoman Tiffany Brown wrote: “While the order places certain limits on how goods are sold at stores 50,000 square feet or more, it does not ban Michiganders from buying any item.” "

The executive order..

https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/0,9309,7-387-90499_90705-525182--,00.html


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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2020, 02:29:15 PM »
VT is so mentally backward they would determine "essential" parts of the store. They blocked the toy aisle in Walmart. You can go to Walmart, you just can't buy toys or a football.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/04/03/vermont-walmart-costco-big-box-stores-limit-sales/2938764001/

At this point, nothing is a shock. Banning toys for kids over Easter? I love the landscape of VT but they can keep it.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2020, 03:13:25 PM »
Why not just order them to have curb service?? Sell whatever the people want?
This is all so stupid.

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2020, 07:00:49 AM »
April 11th, Michigan: Buying seeds now prohibited in Michigan — but booze, pot, lottery tickets OK
https://disrn.com/news/buying-seeds-now-prohibited-in-michigan--but-booze-pot-lottery-tickets-ok

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2020, 09:02:55 AM »
April 11th, Michigan: Buying seeds now prohibited in Michigan — but booze, pot, lottery tickets OK
https://disrn.com/news/buying-seeds-now-prohibited-in-michigan--but-booze-pot-lottery-tickets-ok

That will affect 1000's of the small growers in Michigan. Every Tom, Dick and Harry up there grows apples, pears, or root stock, or squash or.......

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Re: Seeds and clothing considered non essential in Vermont
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2020, 10:00:40 PM »
The local store where I get my animal feed said they had to restock their seed display and they don't usually have to do that until June.
They mentioned that many of the customers were from Massachusetts.