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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #210 on: April 29, 2020, 07:23:31 AM »
Australia isn't the bad guy here.  They are just doing what needs to be done in as non threatening way possible.  China is making all the threats.

Send in the independent inspectors.  Let them talk to Wuhan lab staff.  Grant whistleblowers diplomatic refugee status.  This way we can quickly get to bottom of exactly what happened.

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2020-04-28/australia-stokes-china-tensions-with-call-for-virus-origin-probe

Australia Stokes China Tensions With Call for Virus Probe

Australia’s calls for an independent probe into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic is heightening tensions with Beijing, worrying businesses in the world’s most China-dependent developed economy.

Even as Australia prepares for its first recession in almost three decades after the virus-induced lockdown shuttered pubs, cinemas and thousands of small retailers, the government is determined that the roots of the outbreak must be investigated. China is pushing back, labeling calls for the probe “politically motivated” and warning of a potential consumer boycott of Australian products.

Treasurer Josh Frydenberg on Wednesday dismissed China’s complaints and said Australia would not bow to “economic coercion.”

“Australia thinks it’s prudent and sensible for there to be an independent and transparent investigation into the origins of this global pandemic that’s killed thousands and thousands of people,” he said in a Sky News interview Wednesday. “We won’t trade off health outcomes for economic outcomes.”

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #211 on: April 30, 2020, 12:14:51 PM »
US Office of the Director of National Intelligence, 4/30/20: Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19

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The Office of the Director of National Intelligence today issued the following Intelligence Community (IC) statement:

“The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to U.S. policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China. The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified.

“As we do in all crises, the Community’s experts respond by surging resources and producing critical intelligence on issues vital to U.S. national security. The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #212 on: April 30, 2020, 05:35:18 PM »
US Office of the Director of National Intelligence, 4/30/20: Intelligence Community Statement on Origins of COVID-19

Wow, what a busy week for the "intelligence" community.  Not only did they find the missing "UFO" videos they originally claimed didnt exist, they also found the notes showing the framing of General Flynn (that they also claimed didnt exist) and still had time to poll all the scientists in the world to determine a "consensus" on this!  Amazing work!   :sarcasm:

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #213 on: May 01, 2020, 07:25:47 AM »
EU rewrote its report on origin of Wuhan virus and the cover-up under threats from China.  People aren't accepting that they "water down a report on Chinese disinformation" and now there is "mounting pressure to release more details and earlier drafts of the crunch document."

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1276505/eu-coronavirus-china-cover-up-covid-19-outbreak-report-josep-borrell-donald-trump-claims/amp
EU admits China DID try to silence coronavirus claims - Brussels questioned over report

The bloc was plunged into fresh crisis last week after the New York Times claimed China had tried to block the release of the report, subsequently forcing EU officials to delay and then re-write this before its release. An unnamed senior official told colleagues in an email seen by the newspaper: “The Chinese are already threatening with reactions if the report comes out."

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #214 on: May 02, 2020, 08:18:12 AM »
Uh oh.  Jamie Metzl, high ranking Clinton and Biden staffer, Asia Society's Executive Vice-President, and author of Hacking Darwin: Genetic Engineering and the Future of Humanity tweeted out:

"I have been saying since January that the most likely starting point of the #coronavirus crisis is an accidental leak from the Chinese virology institute in #Wuhan. Because China still covering up & blocking access, it's not possible to yet say for certain. Occam's razor applies."

And now several other prominent Democrat insiders have followed suit.  Looks like cross party recognition is happening

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #215 on: May 02, 2020, 03:44:54 PM »
https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnRobertsFOX
John Roberts @johnrobertsFox
Sources say not all 17 intelligence agencies agree that the lab was the source of the virus because there is not yet a definitive “smoking gun”. But confidence is high among 70-75% of the agencies.


https://www.foxnews.com/world/new-dossier-condemns-china-for-destroying-evidence-of-covid-19-outbreak
Leaked Western intel dossier reveals how China deceived the world about coronavirus

A research dossier compiled by the so-called "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance states that China intentionally hid or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus outbreak, leading to the loss of tens of thousands of lives around the world

The 15-page document from the intelligence agencies of the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia and New Zealand, was obtained by Australia's Saturday Telegraph newspaper and states that China's secrecy amounted to an “assault on international transparency."

The dossier touches on themes that have been discussed in media reports about the outbreak of the virus, including an initial denial by China that the virus could be transmitted between humans, the silencing or "disappearing" of doctors who tried to speak up, the destruction of evidence in laboratories and refusal to provide live samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #216 on: May 04, 2020, 09:07:32 PM »
FiveThirtyEight, 5/4/20: Why Scientists Think The Novel Coronavirus Developed Naturally — Not In A Chinese Lab

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Why do scientists think it wasn’t genetically engineered?

...In SARS-CoV-2’s case, scientists thought they knew how to optimize SARS to infect human hosts. Coronaviruses enter host cells using protein “spikes” that cover their outer surface. At the tip of each spike is a cluster of amino acids that can bind to a certain receptor on a host cell, like a pick designed to open a particular cellular lock. In the case of SARS-CoV-2, the spike binds to human ACE2 receptors, which coat lung cells. ...

But, Garry said, the tip of the SARS-CoV-2 spike is unlike anything scientists have seen before, sharing only a single key amino acid with SARS. Modeling suggests that it shouldn’t be able to bind to human lungs well, but the new configuration is about as effective as the optimized SARS.

How SARS-CoV-2 acquired this unusual tip is still a mystery. But blaming it on genetic engineering overstates the abilities of scientists, Garry said. Guessing that these particular amino acids can bind to ACE2 so effectively is nearly impossible— there are 20 common types of amino acids, and tens of millions of ways to arrange them into a binding tip. ...

What if it was in a petri dish and got out?

...The virus’s spike has a hinge-like structure, allowing the spike to change shape as the virus enters the host cell. Like the spike tip, the hinge on SARS-CoV-2 is markedly different from anything seen in its close relatives. New research suggests that the hinge loses its unique characteristics when cultured in a lab, said Garry. The spike also appears to be able to shield itself from antibodies—another hint that it evolved in the presence of host immune systems.

Most importantly, there’s no smoking gun connecting the lab to an ancestor of the virus. There’s “no bat virus that’s close enough to be the progenitor,” said Garry. The closest known relative to SARS-CoV-2 is a cousin that diverged decades ago in bats.

And while critics suggest that the WIV might have concealed the ancestral virus, 27 scientists who have collaborated with the WIV, including former U.S. officials, rejected the idea in a letter to The Lancet. ...

Then how’d it get here at all?

There’s a simpler, if less flashy, explanation for the emergence of a new SARS. A study, published in 2018, of four rural villages in Yunnan province located near caves containing bats known to carry coronaviruses found that 2.7 percent of those surveyed had antibodies for close relatives of SARS. Thousands, if not millions, of people are exposed to wild coronaviruses every year. Most of them aren’t dangerous, but “if you roll the dice enough times,” Goldstein said, you’ll see a bad one. ...

Believe it or don't.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #217 on: May 04, 2020, 09:36:47 PM »
FiveThirtyEight, 5/4/20: Why Scientists Think The Novel Coronavirus Developed Naturally — Not In A Chinese Lab

Believe it or don't.

I like how in two months they have gone from 'these spikes are not unusual at all' to 'these are unlike anything we have ever seen or possibly conceived'.  And for some inexplicable reason both of these contradictory stories are supposed to prove it didnt escape a lab.  Well, at least we dont have to hear more nonsense about anteaters being eaten raw in pagan rituals being the cause.

They really owe the Itallian scientists whose careers they destroyed an apology.  First they denied the operation of the spikes.  Then they said they were just run of the mill.  Now they have been proven 100% right about both their functioning and treatments.  Tens of thousands of lives could have been saved if people would have listened and immediately fast tracked the diagnostics tests and antivirals as the research suggested.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #218 on: May 05, 2020, 10:08:11 PM »
A story to keep an eye on as it develops.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1200896
Researcher 'on verge of making very significant' coronavirus findings shot to death
The Pennsylvania researcher "was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie" COVID-19, his university said.


Liu, who earned a Ph.D. in computational science from the National University of Singapore, worked as a postdoctoral fellow at Carnegie Mellon University before becoming a research associate at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

In a statement, the University of Pittsburgh described him as an excellent mentor and prolific researcher who had co-authored more than 30 papers. His work focused on systems biology.

"Bing was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie SARS-CoV-2 infection and the cellular basis of the following complications," the school said.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #219 on: May 06, 2020, 06:35:43 AM »
A story to keep an eye on as it develops.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1200896
Researcher 'on verge of making very significant' coronavirus findings shot to death
The Pennsylvania researcher "was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie" COVID-19, his university said.


Liu, who earned a Ph.D. in computational science from the National University of Singapore, worked as a postdoctoral fellow at Carnegie Mellon University before becoming a research associate at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

In a statement, the University of Pittsburgh described him as an excellent mentor and prolific researcher who had co-authored more than 30 papers. His work focused on systems biology.

"Bing was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie SARS-CoV-2 infection and the cellular basis of the following complications," the school said.


very suspicious, to be sure.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #220 on: May 06, 2020, 07:07:38 AM »
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/05/britain-undergoing-mindset-change-toward-beijing-says-leading-lawmaker-239632
Britain undergoing ‘mindset change’ toward Beijing, says leading lawmaker
Beijing’s handling of the coronavirus outbreak is prompting the UK to question its dependency on Chinese trade, says Tobias Ellwood.


The U.K. government is undergoing a "mindset change" with regard to Beijing "not least because of the attitude, the conduct of China throughout Covid-19," said Tobias Ellwood, who chairs of the defense committee in the House of Commons, in a video call with POLITICO.

He added that China had been "less than transparent, in denial about how this started in the first place [and] not a country that we should be cozying up to to do long-term security deals with ... I do think that the Covid-19 experience, and China's clandestine conduct here, will help sharpen opinion."

The comments from the conservative former defense minister echoes sharpening criticism of Beijing from the United States, where Secretary of State Mike Pompeo argued over the weekend that the outbreak had originated in a Chinese laboratory.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #221 on: May 06, 2020, 11:58:50 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1200896
Researcher 'on verge of making very significant' coronavirus findings shot to death
The Pennsylvania researcher "was on the verge of making very significant findings toward understanding the cellular mechanisms that underlie" COVID-19, his university said.

Why is this suspicious?  It was a murder/suicide over a love triangle.

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...Ross Township police Detective Sgt. Brian Kohlhepp told NBC News that the men knew each other. Investigators believe Gu killed Liu before returning to his car, where he died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Police believe the deaths occurred on Saturday after a "lengthy dispute regarding an intimate partner," according to the Ross Police Department Wednesday.

"We have found zero evidence that this tragic event has anything to do with employment at the University of Pittsburgh, any work being conducted at the University of Pittsburgh and the current health crisis affecting the United States and the world," police said. ...

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #222 on: May 06, 2020, 02:50:15 PM »
Why is this suspicious?  It was a murder/suicide over a love triangle.
The Chinese being in love with their public image, and having murderous hatred for anything that exposes their dirty laundry??

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #223 on: May 06, 2020, 08:41:41 PM »
I mean, what is the evidence that this was suspicious, rather than being a typical murder/suicide?

All due respect to Dr Bing Liu, but he wasn't exactly a lead COVID-19 researcher.  Here's his page at U of Pittsburgh:

http://www.pitt.edu/~liubing/

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Bing Liu
Research Assistant Professor
Computational & Systems Biology Department
School of Medicine, University of Pittsburgh

About
I received Bachelor and PhD in Computer Science under the supervision of Profs P.S. Thiagarajan and David Hsu from National University of Singapore. Previously, I have been working with Prof Edmund M. Clarke (Turing Award 2007) as a Postdoctoral Fellow in Department of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University, and with Prof Ivet Bahar as a Research Associate in the Department of Computational & Systems Biology, School of Medicine, University of Pittsburgh. Currently, I am Research Assistant Professor in the Department of Computational & Systems Biology, School of Medicine, University of Pittsburgh.

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My research area centers on computational systems biology. I develop computational modeling, simulation and analysis techniques to study the dynamics of biological systems. As an integral part of my research, I collaborate with a number of biologists and clinicians to study a variety of crucial biological processes related to human immunity and cancer. I also leverage high-performance computing, formal verification, and machine learning techniques to enable the analysis of multi-scale systems. Furthermore, I am applying the techniques I have been developing to analyze cyber-physical systems that are ubiquitous in safety-critical applications. ...

Here is the statement released by his department, which lists the many different projects he was working on besides COVID-19:

5/6/20: Department Mourns the Passing of Dr. Bing Liu

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...Bing was a prolific researcher. During his career he co-authored in 30+ publications, including four in 2020, in addition to a book.  He played a critical role in the Bahar Lab and was the leader in systems biology research for Ivet and her lab. He single-handedly helped all of us as well as many collaborators including clinicians here and in other institutions, understand and quantitatively model many complex processes, including immune signaling events,  apoptotic and ferroptotic cell death,  autophagy, redox lipid programming, response to radiation and radiation therapy, systems (poly)pharmacological treatments. ...

Local coverage:

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 5/6/20: Police: Pitt researcher's slaying didn't involve his COVID-19 work

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...Mr. Gu [the apparent murderer] was chief software architect at Eaton Corp., a power management company based in Ireland with a location in Moon.

Mr. Liu, 37, had worked under Ivet Bahar, the head of Pitt’s computational and system biology department. She said he was well liked and in the process of studying the infection mechanism of COVID-19. ...

If there was any indication that he was on the verge of some dramatic discovery that would blow the lid off secret Chinese whatever, maybe it would be a little suspicious.  But in this case we have a guy who does general-purpose computational systems biology, and he has been helping out many different research projects.  Look at the publications listed on his page -- he's hardly ever the first author, and when he is, the titles are like "A Model Checking-based Analysis Framework for Systems Biology Models" and "Statistical Model Checking based Analysis of Biological Networks" and "Quantitative Assessment of Cell Fate Decision between Autophagy and Apoptosis".  The word virus doesn't even appear anywhere on his page.

The only smoking gun here was found in the dead hand of Hao Gu, 200 yards from Bing Liu's house.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #224 on: May 07, 2020, 03:47:50 AM »
I mean, what is the evidence that this was suspicious, rather than being a typical murder/suicide?
Sorry, I don't have anything specific - and we may never get any evidence. It just came across as suspicious; kind of like several unexplained "suicides" of people who publicly disagreed with a certain former politician's wife (like a "suicide" where the gun was found dozens of feet away from the body.)

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #225 on: May 09, 2020, 10:14:17 AM »
I mean, what is the evidence that this was suspicious, rather than being a typical murder/suicide?

You missed a key thing.  Before it even made it into US national media, China communist party propaganda machine was pushing he was killed because he had evidence the virus originated in US lab.  Of course, we know it is their standard ploy to blame US for what they themselves have done.  That is why it is worth keeping an eye on it.

https://news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-professor-bing-lius-murder-025440275.html
Bing Liu: Chinese-born professor dies in US murder-suicide

"Oh my god," a user on the Chinese social media platform Weibo wrote. "This seems like coming straight out of Mission Impossible. Perhaps he found out that the virus originated from an American lab."

Many similar comments suggested Liu was killed because he was supposedly about to unravel the mystery of coronavirus' origin.

Chinese officials and state media had previously promoted a baseless claim that the virus originated in the US and was brought to Wuhan by American soldiers.

Some Weibo users said the case "seems too coincidental".

"A very unusual case. There are likely secrets hidden in the dark," one remark read.

Many Weibo comments suggested Liu's Chinese background may have put him at risk in the US, though no evidence has emerged that Liu was targeted because of his ethnicity.

Global Times, a website affiliated with the Chinese state media, published an article various speculation surrounding Liu's death.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #226 on: May 09, 2020, 10:17:08 AM »
https://www.wdsu.com/amp/article/tangipahoa-sheriff-sues-china-claims-wuhan-lab-released-coronavirus/32419000
Tangipahoa Sheriff sues China, claims Wuhan lab released coronavirus

Tangipahoa Parish Sheriff Daniel Edwards has sued China in a federal lawsuit, claiming a research lab in the city of Wuhan is directly responsible for the COVID-19 pandemic.

Edwards, who's the brother of Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards, claims in the suit that the safety failures involving bat research at the lab led to the release of COVID-19 into the general population.

The suit goes on to claim that the government of China withheld vital information, and also knowingly gave out misleading information on the spread of the disease.

Edwards said he filed the lawsuit because his office is seeing a dramatic decrease in sales tax revenue due to the coronavirus.
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Gov. John Bel Edwards was asked about his brother's lawsuit during his daily press briefing Friday.

He said he didn't know anything about it, but did confirm Attorney General Jeff Landry was considering a similar lawsuit on behalf of the state.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #227 on: May 09, 2020, 12:05:14 PM »
You missed a key thing.  Before it even made it into US national media, China communist party propaganda machine was pushing he was killed because he had evidence the virus originated in US lab. ...

 :facepalm:

You're right, I hadn't heard that bit of craziness.

He wasn't even studying the origin of the virus!


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« Reply #229 on: May 09, 2020, 05:43:00 PM »
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Judy Anne Mikovits (c. 1958) is a discredited American ex-research scientist[10][11][12][2][3] who is known for her anti-vaccination activism,[13][12] promotion of conspiracy theories, and scientific misconduct.[6][7][8][9] She has made false claims about vaccines, coronavirus, and chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS).[10][11][14]

As research director of CFS research organization Whittemore Peterson Institute (WPI) from 2006 to 2011, Mikovits led an effort that reported in 2009 that a retrovirus known as xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus (XMRV) was associated with CFS and may have had a causal role. However, the paper came under fire,[6] leading to an eventual retraction on December 22, 2011, by the journal Science.[8][15] In November 2011, she was arrested and held on charges that she stole from WPI, but she was released after 5 days and the charges were later dropped.[16]

In 2020, Mikovits drew attention online for promoting conspiracy theories about the COVID-19 pandemic via the conspiracist internet video Plandemic,[10] which made claims that are either false or not based on scientific evidence.[17][18][19]

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One such circulating video gained notoriety in May 2020. Titled Plandemic Part 1, this film is a half-hour long documentary-styled interview of Mikovits's views on a variety of subjects.[11][54] YouTube removed this video from its website a number of times, citing its Community Guidelines.[55][56] It was later removed by Vimeo and Facebook for similar reasons.[5]


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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #230 on: May 09, 2020, 07:41:35 PM »
https://www.thecentersquare.com/texas/university-of-texas-investigated-for-links-to-wuhan-lab/article_66241dda-8e62-11ea-aa55-7f9876bc210e.amp.html
University of Texas investigated for links to Wuhan lab

The University of Texas system is being investigated by the U.S. Department of Education for its involvement with the infectious diseases laboratory in Wuhan, China, and its potential links to Beijing and roughly 24 Chinese state-owned companies, including telecom giant Huawei, according to a report by The Wall Street Journal.

The investigation comes after the UT system received $172.5 million in federal stimulus money from the CARES Act.

The Education Department's Office of General Counsel sent a letter to Chancellor James Milliken last week requesting that it provide documentation of its dealings with the Chinese laboratory U.S. officials now believe was where the coronavirus was experimented on and leaked from, despite prior conflicting reports.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #231 on: May 10, 2020, 12:06:44 AM »

Spirko recently did another covid19 podcast. He says it’s true that Faucci owns all kinds of patents on drugs, treatments and supposedly vaccines. That would be a serious conflict of interest that should not be allowed

He also said test kits where sent to Tanzania. Over there they don’t trust these things so they tested them in papaya fruit and many the fruit tested positive which seemed to indicate someone or all of the test kits where fault

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #232 on: May 10, 2020, 09:46:21 AM »
Lots of chatter in science community that leak at lab has been verified. May be from cell phone records.  The timing aligns with the bat coronavirus researchers canceling conference presentations and being rushed back to Wuhan under military escort.  It also aligns precisely with reports of first cases and the initial asymptomatic spread as documented by Chinese scientists and doctors before they were silenced.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/09/us-uk-intelligence-agencies-examining-report-mobile-phone-data/
US and UK intelligence agencies 'examining report on mobile phone data at Wuhan laboratory'

US and British intelligence agencies are reportedly examining mobile phone data suggesting there could have been an emergency shutdown in October at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

According to a report, obtained by NBC News, there was no mobile phone activity in a high-security part of the Chinese laboratory complex from Oct 7 to Oct 24. Previously, there had been consistent use of mobile phones.

The report, carried out by private experts, suggested there may have been a "hazardous event," specifically at the institute's National Biosafety Laboratory, between Oct 6 and Oct 11.



Overseas the television talk shows are having open discussion now that public confirmation seems to be nearing, see below example. This normally happens just before government full disclosure.

https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/national/covid19-leaking-from-wuhan-laboratory-is-the-only-plausible-explanation/video/cc2934e84fd236ad061bacf99184e511
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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #233 on: May 10, 2020, 12:08:53 PM »
US newspaper editorial boards starting to speak out against coverup.

https://nypost.com/2020/05/08/world-health-organization-just-cant-stop-covering-for-china/amp/
The World Health Organization just can’t stop covering for China

Even now, the World Health Organization can’t resist covering for China. The latest: Dr. Mike Ryan, its top emergency expert, called claims that the coronavirus escaped from that Wuhan lab purely “speculative.”
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Yet WHO itself can only speculate: Its experts haven’t been in the country since February, and China won’t let them enter to investigate COVID-19’s origins. Which is evidence of a sort, actually.
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Meanwhile, the multinational Five Eyes intelligence dossier that leaked last week outlines major Beijing duplicity from the start, from destroying evidence to “disappearing” whistleblowers.

Whatever the origins of the virus, WHO’s rush to make that claim just shows that it still puts defending China’s Communist regime over protecting global health.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #234 on: May 10, 2020, 12:32:05 PM »
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How Covid-19 misinformation is still going viral
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/tech/covid-viral-misinformation/index.html

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #235 on: May 10, 2020, 03:22:46 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/08/tech/covid-viral-misinformation/index.html

LOL. I wonder if they were the ones who got youtube and facebook to take down the videos showing the Whitmer and Biden linked Cherry Health staged a fake testing line for CBS news to get more federal money.  All the so called fact checkers said it was an unfounded conspiracy theory that they hadnt staged it.  Thousands had their accounts suspended challenging the story.  Yet now CBS and Cherry Health were forced by release of Project Veritas video that it was true.

https://www.woodtv.com/video/cherry-health-admits-staffers-did-join-testing-line-in-tv-report/5486808/
Cherry Health admits staffers did join testing line in TV report

Or how about those shut down for challenging fake news story that Pence delivered empty boxes of PPE?

[url]https://www.axios.com/mike-pence-empty-ppe-boxes-viral-tweet-f59c8bc8-8abd-4a1f-a5b9-8edcc38942ba.html[/url
Reality check: Pence didn't deliver empty PPE boxes for photo op

If they were serious about misinformation, large portions of CBS and CNN stories would be taken down and they would be suspended from platforms.

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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #236 on: May 10, 2020, 07:07:22 PM »
 I really disliked the 60 minute piece defending New York-based EcoHealth Alliance and work coordinated with WuHan labs. It is wrong on so many levels and doesn't admit to any of the many known risks and problems. It doesn't mention this type of research was halted in the US. It claims nothing happened in China but yet trying to find out what happened in China is impossible because it's a communist country or we have to rely on a bunch of deep state spooks to tell us the answer

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-vaccine-politics-scientific-community-60-minutes-2020-05-10/

Trump administration cuts funding for coronavirus researcher, jeopardizing possible COVID-19 cure

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An American scientist who collaborates with the Wuhan Institute of Virology had his grant terminated in the wake of unsubstantiated claims that COVID-19 is either manmade or leaked out of a Chinese government lab.
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Re: Virus accidentally released from lab ?
« Reply #237 on: May 11, 2020, 06:34:36 AM »
Bill Clinton's white house spokesperson has called for closure of Wuhan lab.  The chorus is growing and cuts across all political dimensions.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ex-white-house-drug-spokesman-bob-weiner-china-must-prove-virus-didnt-start-in-wuhan-lab-or-shut-it-down-301053608.html
Ex-White House Drug Spokesman Bob Weiner: China Must Prove Virus Didn't Start In Wuhan Lab Or Shut It Down
2000 Viruses Being Studied at Wuhan Lab. Which Could Be Next, Weiner Asks on John Fredericks Radio Show


WASHINGTON, May 6, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- In a radio interview Tuesday on the John Fredericks Show, former White House Drug Spokesman Robert Weiner asserted, "China must prove the Covid-19 virus didn't start in its Wuhan lab or shut it down."

Weiner, who issued a statement with senior policy analyst Ben Lasky, asked Fredericks, "With 2000 viruses being studied at the Wuhan lab, which could be the next to escape or be released?"
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Weiner asserted. "If they need to temporarily shut down the Wuhan lab and announce it to give the world peace of mind, so be it. Are three million cases and 200,000 deaths so far, not far worse than even Russia's Chernobyl, which AEA said caused 4000 deaths and the Russians shut down?"

"It's not about politics. Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives must admit that Trump's signature issue from before his presidential campaign has been forcing China into the open and stopping their campaigns against Western trade, intellectual property—and safety.  Democrats since Richard Gephardt's presidential campaign of 2004 have crusaded against the Chinese economic and safety assaults on the U.S.

Weiner added, "Trump is not wrong that the World Health Organization (WHO) stuck with Chinese propaganda that Coronavirus is not dangerous." On January 14, the WHO tweeted, "Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission."  Weiner pointed out that "Trump, Dr. Anthony Fauci of NIH and many others believed the WHO at the outset."

Weiner concluded, "The U.S. and all nations must join to persuade China to mandate facts and protect the world's health.

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« Reply #238 on: May 11, 2020, 06:47:24 AM »
I don't buy the concept that the accused has to proof their innocence.

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« Reply #239 on: May 11, 2020, 06:55:02 AM »
I don't buy the concept that the accused has to proof their innocence.

Do you buy into the concept of warrants to gather information?  Or countries complying with treaty obligations?  Or contract rights of co-owners?

Why should China be able to shirk all its obligations under international law?