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VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« on: January 04, 2016, 04:36:07 PM »
Hi folks,

Looking for some feedback from those out there whom have used this system.

We dehydrate a lot and end up with things everywhere.  I'm looking at sealing items for storage in mason jars to keep things organized and looking neat.

I recall Jack discussing this a few years back in a podcast and it was recommended.  I had a hard time finding the website again over all the food saver stuff.
I've had mixed reviews with the food saver.. and would prefer a more reliable tool.

I looked at their website.  http://vacucanner.com

The pot itself looks cheap and flimsy from the pictures.  Which in and of itself isn't an issue as long as it does the job, but looking at the cost I see that the vacuum itself is 100$.  The pot and connections are much more.  Is this a good value for what you get?

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2016, 09:07:14 PM »
The pump is a good price, better than harbor freight unless you have a super coupon. Probably would buy this regardless.

The pots are pressure canners, BIG ones that aren't particularly cheap, plus a vacuum gauge, quick connect fitting, and a few plumbing bits.

If you can source a canner second hand, you can put it together cheaper if you know what you are doing.  Sourcing parts can be tricky and time consuming if you don't.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 08:38:58 PM »
Hmmm. We've just come up with a new, unused foodsaver brand vacuum system.
Got everything except the 2 vacuum lids for regular and wide mouth jars, which are about 20 bux for both from amazon.
I'm wondering if it's worth the cost/effort to use this thing.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 07:32:59 AM »
The pump looks exactly like my pump that I use in my woodworking.  Mine was a Christmas gift, but it was purchased on Amazon for around $80.00.  The pot looks like a presto brand pressure cooker that can be purchased many places for sub-$100.00.
http://www.amazon.com/Presto-01781-23-Quart-Pressure-Canner/dp/B0000BYCFU/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1454422918&sr=8-10&keywords=pressure+cooker
$90.00 for this pressure cooker that holds 7 qts.  They want 300.00 for theirs that's been modified with gauge, valve and hose.

The misc adapters and vacuum gauge would probably be less than $30.00.  Your local hardware store would have all the 1/4" NPT fittings and ball valve to connect everything together.

So, unless you have no ability to fab this up yourself, I think it's a bit over priced, but then you are paying for the parts and labor to assemble.

Here's an alternative, look at ebay for vacuum chambers (used for mold making).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Gallon-Vacuum-Chamber-and-3-CFM-Single-Stage-Pump-to-Degassing-Silicone-/321778500697?hash=item4aeb7e4459:g:SLgAAOSw7hRWQjGs

These generally also have a clear lid/top so you can see what's happening with your seal (not too big of a deal for canning but for what I do I have to regulate the vacuum to avoid foaming.

I have a one gallon container that I use for saturating wood with a resin type hardener.

The foodsaver brand vacuums are OK, the most I've seen them pull is around 20 to 22 inches.  My vacuum pump will pull 26+ in of mercury (depending on weather and other factors), and I run it for hours at a time. 

The advantage to using the canning pot and vacuum pump over the foodsaver is the ability to vacuum can multiple jars at once, where as with the foodsaver you are limited to one at a time.

And just as a point of reference, foodsavers last no more than 2 yrs in my house. we use them so much we fry the pumps.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2016, 07:58:37 AM »
Good info.
So you have a vacuum bag setup for veneering, etc

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2016, 08:03:15 AM »
Good info.
So you have a vacuum bag setup for veneering, etc

No, I use a product called cactus juice for stabilizing punky or soft wood for turning.  The vacuum allows the liquid to penetrate the wood, then it's heat cured.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2016, 08:07:00 AM »
Oh ok. Copy that. Yes that spunky wood sure is pretty.
I never did get into the pen thing.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2016, 09:37:54 AM »
Handy little table - http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/vacuum-converter-d_460.html (this is probably at sea level I'd guess)

22 inches of mercury is about a 74% vacuum
26 inches takes you up to about 87%

Slightly off-topic but did anyone see the Mythbusters a couple of weeks ago where they crushed a railway tanker car using a vacuum? That was pretty cool. They got it to fail at around 23 inches but they had to intentionally damage the tank car to do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oG_uPFGlwI

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2016, 05:13:56 AM »
I recall Jack discussing this a few years back in a podcast and it was recommended.  I had a hard time finding the website again over all the food saver stuff.

I think that Jack has a recent video in his YouTube channel where he shows how to use one of these vacuum canners and mentions his thought on it.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 08:18:10 AM »
Jack did a review on the vacucanner in 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXoVHJ97IdA

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2016, 04:48:55 PM »
Is a vacucanner necessary if you use oxygen absorbers  or is it a replacement for them? 

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2016, 06:06:51 AM »
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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2016, 08:50:00 PM »
Used the food saver today. Ordered the regular mouth lid adaptor and vac'ed 8 pints of pectin today. Had a little trouble starting out, but soon figured out the problem.
I've got one that the lid has unsealed. I'll redo that one. Figured out what my main problem was. I wasn't warming up the lids.  ::)

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 05:49:19 PM »
Does warming the lids soften the seal you figure? 

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 07:54:22 PM »
Yes. Remembered a u-tube video, a texasprepper2, doing blackberry juice. He warmed the lids, using hot water like in normal canning

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 11:51:26 AM »
I just use a Foodsaver vaccum sealer with a jar attachment like the one in the pic.

I like to vacuum seal pint jars of rice {perfect for 2 people and rotatable}, Homegrown dried Tea, Jars of finished Biltong {Protects re-hydration in humid climates}, dried mushrooms, dehydrated fruit, ect.

Vacuum sealing dry goods is probably my favorite and easiest method for some things.




 

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2017, 03:47:27 PM »
I have never found any need to pre-heat the lids to get a good seal... Just make sure the lid you are using is in decent shape... Here is a YouTube vid I put together a few years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E552XSAXEdk

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2017, 05:03:58 PM »
I have had to put in a piece of paper towel over powdery items, like ground coffee or some herbs to get it to seal, just a piece on top of the food, not under the lid. That would likley help he pectin

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2017, 10:15:40 PM »
I have had to put in a piece of paper towel over powdery items, like ground coffee or some herbs to get it to seal, just a piece on top of the food, not under the lid. That would likley help he pectin

I put coffee filters on the pectin.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 10:11:46 AM »
Forgot to mention... in my vid, the cameraman was my 13 yo son... thus the extra movement in the vid. :)

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2019, 03:53:49 PM »
could this be used to vacuum flour on mason jars 

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2019, 03:57:28 PM »
could this be used to vacuum flour on mason jars

Yes.  Leave it down from top about 3/4" and cover with a cheap napkin or coffee filter, which helps keeps the dust from entering the vac tubing.

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2019, 04:01:56 PM »
thanks a lot sir

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Re: VacuCanner vaccum food storage system
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2019, 04:02:40 PM »
Welcome.  ;D