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EPISODE 1245 -- Veterans Day 2013
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The Survival Podcast

Jack Spirko

Episode 1245 - The Veterans Day Show

November 11, 2013



Today is Veteran’s Day and so it is time yet again for our special Veteran’s Day edition of The Survival Podcast.

I have also removed any time based references so that this version can be timeless. There is no commercial content today as the entire show is dedicated to those that serve our nation.

You will notice more music in today’s show, hopefully no lawyers for Trace Atkins, Tim McGraw or Toby Keith will come after me for today’s show though I doubt it will be an issue. Additionally you will hear the song I co wrote with Gregg Yows, “What Have You Done“. You can get that entire so for free at Greg’s Website at

So tune in today for the story of Veteran’s Day, stories about our troops and the real reasons you should never miss a chance to say thank you to a veteran.

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Hi folks. This is Jack Spirko and welcome to a very special Veteran's Day show. The song you just heard is kind of angry. It's from angry men and it's the voice that Greg Yows and I gave to them when we thought back to all the sacrifices that have been made by people that have given everything that they had for an idea of freedom. And for a freedom that's not just something that's given, that's not just something that is supposed to be there, but the people that they fought for are supposed to preserve. We can look around at a lot of liberty that's been lost in this country, and we can blame politicians and we can blame so and so and we can blame this and that, but the reality is you and I are to be the guardians of liberty. Let every man be his own guardian.

Today's show is not going to have any type of commercialism in it. There'll be no sponsors, no guest spots, nothing like that. All it's going to be is a rebroadcast mostly of the episode that I did last year. This is the fourth year that we're doing this show. I re-recorded it at studio quality last year because the first time I did it was done in the car. It came out really well and I plan on leaving it that way with a few exceptions. I'm doing it a little bit different.

First of all, I opened it up with that. And I want you to think about the song that you just heard. And I want you to think how it joins and melds with the other music, this is what we're more accustomed to you're hear in today's show. I'm sure I've violated a lot of copyrights today, but hopefully people like Toby Keith will be okay with me using their music the way that I believe it was intended to be used.

And before I go into the rebroadcast portion of the show. You're going to hear another song. You're going to hear a song by Toby Keith, American Soldier, and I want you to think about the way that those two things justify. And I want to speak to a certain segment of society and indeed I know a segment of my audience today as I prepare you for what you're about to hear.

There's a lot of people out there specifically in the libertarian movement that confuse being antiwar with being anti-soldier or they confuse the soldier with the bureaucrat that sends these soldier off to war. There's a reality, a fundamental reality that you must accept if you want to be a defender of a Republic. No Republic can stand unless there are men who are willing to fight and die for said Republic.

And you may not like everything that our military does or everything that our military is asked to do, and you may not want to see them in certain parts the world right now. I know I don't. I know there's a lot of places right like to bring them home from and put them to work defending this nation on a more concrete level. But we don't get to make those decisions on a daily basis. And they don't get to make those decisions ever. We get to make those decisions with who we send to Washington to run this place. And at least we get that right. But once you raise your hand, what you take the oath, once you say that you do solemnly swear to uphold and defend the Constitution and you're given an order, and unless it's an illegal or immoral order, you follow it. That's what these men are asked to do. That's what they're asked to do every day.

And I'm going to tell you the history and the story of veterans today. And if you've already heard it, listen to it again, because it's a story that we do not tell. It's a truth that we do not tell. It's a story of how thousands of men died because somebody wanted a date and an hour to sound cool when somebody said. And I'll tell you more about that in a bit.

Before I do though, now let's contrast the song that you heard the show opened with this song, one that I certainly love and I find a very special place in my heart. But it also takes me back to a place a long, long time ago. And with that, Toby Keith, American Soldier. And I'll be back to tell you the story of Veteran's Day.

(Music -- 7:42 to 11:45)

I think it's important that we stop once in a while and we appreciate people that have done things for us. As modern survivalists, as preppers, as people that want liberty and freedom, we need to look to our troops. And there's not going to be any housekeeping today, there's no intro segment here. This is the show. There is no advertising today, there's nothing other than recognizing the people that have done so much to help us have what we really want.

And I was saddened today, as I went to one of my favorite websites on the web really, and read an article by a guy that said, "Thank a vet, why should I?" Well, hopefully today I'm going to answer that question for him and for everyone else.

I know that in our community we have a lot of libertarians, I count myself among them. And part of the Libertarian platform is more is a bad thing, man. It's not what we want; it's not what we're looking for. And we believe that we've been led into war on occasion that did not need to be fought and we would've been better off having not fought it. And it's so easy, especially for the people who never stood up, who never took the oath, who never did a damn thing, who just sit back here and object to lump the soldier in with the politician that decides where the soldier goes. I personally find that to be distasteful bullshit. That will be probably the only vulgarity I will use today, but there's no other word for it because that's what it is. It is bullshit when you do that.

Our soldiers, our Sailors, our Airmen, our Marines, these people, they're the ones that keep the check on the system in place. We have politicians that if they could get away with it would run over everything. They would take everything. I've seen advice written to our veterans, actually to our young people to not become veterans, to not join the military. Advice to parents, don't let your kids join the military, as though you have a choice as a parent. When your son or daughter at 18 says this is what I'm going to do with my life, you have no choice. You don't decide whether they go or not. You don't put your kids in the military. They stand up as young men and women and they take an oath to our Constitution. And as long as they're taking an oath to the Constitution and as long as they come from our best young men and women, they are the check on the system.

The advice that I see given, don't let any good moral, upright, upstanding young person join the military -- well that's a great idea, now isn't it folks? What would we end up within? We would end up with the military made up of people that aren't morally upright, fine young people. People that would not question, that would just say fine, you want me to burn this, I'll burn it.

But see that's not what happens is it? See, here's what I know that people that haven't served don't know. You can find mistakes and you can find people in our military that are not the best people. You can find some groups in our military that have done terrible things and you'll find that in any military anywhere in the world. And you'll find people that have done terrible things that are priests. And you'll find people that have done terrible things that are teachers. See our soldiers are citizens. They're citizens; they're people just like you and me. And when you get any group of people together is large enough, there will be some segment of them that are less than decent people.

Again, it doesn't matter whether their soldiers or police officers or teachers, priests or mechanics, or it doesn't matter what it is. You put 100,000 people are more into a group, some small portion of them will be the lowest portions of society masquerading. We should not judge the whole, we should not dislike every teacher, we should not hate every police officer, we should not hate every priest and we should not fail to thank them for educating our children, protecting us and connecting us with the spiritual realm because of what some small portion of them do. And the same thing must be said for our soldiers today and that is the intro I wanted to give you.

But with today being Veterans Day I wanted to relay to you some things from my past, some things from my present, some things that I've seen, places I've been, people I talk to. I wanted to tell you the real history of Veterans Day; I want to tell you where it came from, why is the 11th day of the 11th month, the 11th hour. And what all of these things mean.

First and foremost, I want people to really understand the sacrifice that our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marine, Coast Guard including, make. National Guardsmen, reservists, everybody. Because I don't think when you're sitting there in the middle of your life at 28 or 38 or 48 and you've lost that spark of youth and you've been long since you've had that freedom -- and you know, most kids in this country at 24, 25 are still living off their parents on some level. I mean you really have to think about what is the average, 22-year-old kid doing today? Now if you're a 22-year-old kid out there busting your hump to make it, I'm not putting you down, but you know what your friends are doing, you know with the people you've kind of left behind are doing.

And at 17 sometimes, and 18, at 19 these are the average ages, that young man or woman steps forward into a uniform, raises their hand and says I do solemnly swear to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America and obey the orders of the officers and noncommissioned officers appointed over me and obey the orders of the President of the United States. If they're the National Guard they also add in the governor of the state. That's a big commitment for a 17-year-old isn't it? It's really big. And the people that say, like I started out with, why should I thank a veteran? At some levels I just want to say something I won't say because I will don't want to make this negative today. I want to make this as positive as possible.

But it starts there. It starts with that 18-year-old kid that could spend the next four years out drinking and partying with his buddies, who's willing to do something that many people will never be willing to do and ends up in a foreign nation somewhere, either dodging bullets or in some cases building schools for children that don't have them. It starts there. And it keeps going.

One thing that I really want you to do today, I want you to go out and I want you to thank a veteran. I want you to find a veteran, I don't want you to do this by e-mail, I don't want you to do this in a chat room. I want you to go out and I want you to find somebody who served. And I know there's somebody out there that you know that served. And I don't care if they spent their entire career in South Carolina, they were the uniform and if they had been asked to go they would've went. And I don't care if they were just in the National Guard. Do you know how many men of our National Guardsmen are overseas right now? Do you know how many of National Guardsmen died in Vietnam? Do you know how many of National Guardsmen died in World War II? I don't care who they are, just because they might have served at a time when they weren't asked to go anywhere doesn't mean they wouldn't have went. Whoever they are, walk up to them and on today of all days say, "Thank you for your service."

And I want you to do it in person, because you're going to see something that if you've never seen it before, it's going to be hard for you to understand. And I think a lot of people that take the step and do it see this, and they go, "What is that?" I'm going to tell you so you'll know, because it'll mean more.

You'll walk up, maybe you'll see the guy in Starbucks in his fatigues, you know? Maybe you'll take an extra step and you'll walk up and pay for his coffee. And dammit, if you see a soldier in Starbucks, buy him a coffee. But when you say thank you, you stick your hand out, he'll stick that hand out and give you that crushing handshake, that confident handshake. But all of that confidence will go away when you look at his face. He'll avert his eyes, and you'll see a kid, whether he's an old man in the military, which is like 30 or a young kid, it won't matter. And I'll tell you what it is. Inside him he's thinking, I don't deserve this. Somebody else did more than me.

And you want to know why you should thank a vet? That's why. Because you'll see it. You'll see it in the guy that was riding a desk in South Carolina for five years, used it to get through college, never went anywhere. You'll see it in the person that was deployed into rough, rugged terrain that did a hard, dirty, dangerous job but was never shot at. You'll see it from the combat troop, and you'll see it from the guy that lost a leg. That guy will feel the same way because as long as you came home, he knows somebody else at some time else didn't. You won't feel, you won't understand that, you won't know what it is until you stick your hands out and you shake that man or that woman's hand. Today is the day to do it.

And as I go forward and I talk a little bit about the role of some noncombat troops today, I want you to realize that I'm not putting our combat troops down. I'm not saying they play second fiddle to anybody, because they don't. I want you to realize something before I go forward. I have to make sure this is understood.

I was a mechanic, I worked on vehicles. My job was to support the combat troops. Supply sergeant, make sure that everybody gets all their supplies. His real job is to support the combat troops. The person that's a TAMMs clerk, that files all the paperwork to make sure that everything goes where it's supposed to go and that people get attached to the right units, their job is to support the combat troops.

The cooks that slave over the hot stuff every day to make sure that people are fed, their job, even if they're not feeding the combat troop directly, even if they're feeding the mechanic, the supply sergeant and the TAMMs clerk, is to support the frontline combat troops. They're why everything else exists because that's the mission of the military, to fight. Whether you feel good, bad or indifferent about that, that is the purpose of the military.

And all of these positions, every single one of them, communication specialist, supply person, aircraft mechanic, vehicle mechanic, construction equipment operator, all of these people exist to support that frontline troop. That's what it's all about. They exist to support the Marine recon troop. They exist to support the Army infantry, the Army airborne infantry. They exist to support the Air Force attack squadron of F-16s, the naval battle group. That's why they exist. They don't exist because somebody out there felt like, you know what we need to do? We need to come up with a job for people that want to be in the military but they don't want to go out everyday with a rifle or a tank and fight. We need to give them a place. That's not why they're there! They're there because the entire mission cannot happen without them.

So as I tell you a story about where I went and not really what I did, but what other people did, I want you to realize that it's in no way taking away from the people that dodge bullets, because those guys have something so special, to be able to do that. But somebody has to feed them and somebody has to make sure they get ammunition.

And we also have to think about if we're really going to understand veterans, and we're going to really understand our military, we're going to have to understand that they exist at all times, not just in time of war. We've been in what feels like a perpetual war zone since September 11, 2001. We've been on some level at war and we're at war now.

We don't seem to remember peacetime right now. We seem to focus only on the fact that there's a battle to be fought right now. We don't realize that with all the people that have -- we're in Iraq and have finally come out and all the people that aren't Afghanistan that are in those places in harm's way, there's still hundred of thousands of troops all over the world doing other things, both in war and in peacetime.

I want to tell the story of something that I was part of that a group of about 800 men and women did in peacetime. We were deployed to a place called the Aguan River Valley in the mountains of Honduras. And we were sent there with a mission, a very simple mission on paper: build a road. Build a road about 10 miles long. Right now what exists where the road will be built is a small one-lane track, mostly used by horses and donkeys and things like that, small pickup trucks are sort of able to get through, but it's a dangerous thing. These people live in the middle of nowhere, they have nothing. This road that connects these last two places, when it's done, will allow supplies to come in from both coasts. And it will connect these people to sustenance.

So we went there to build the road and we were at some levels excited, because we were seeing something we never have, but we also were not excited because we knew what it was going to be about. For six months we lived in tents. We had mostly GP medium tents and each tent had about eight guys in a GP medium. So we had our little cots set up and our little areas and we did the best we could. But we were -- it was covered in dust and ticks and when it would rain, this volcanic dust was like -- it was like talcum powder. Everybody that walked around looked like Pig-Pen from Charlie Brown. And when it rained, imagine dumping talcum powder on your sink top and then soaking it down. That's what this mud was like.

And we lived in that for six months to build these roads. And when we go there, once we got everybody in and the tents set up and we were ready to go on our mission and start actually doing the job. The surveyors had already kind of started that part, but we were ready to start rolling the equipment, maintaining the vehicles and running and gunning.

Commander Colonel pulled us altogether and he said to us, "Men, we have six months to build this road. This road is done six months now, we will go home" which for us was Panama at the time. And Panama, when you're in Honduras living in a tent and you can go back to your air conditioned barracks in Panama, that's a pretty nice place to be. You want to get back there. And he said to us, "We can do this in six months and go home. If it's six months and we're not done, we'll be here seven months, if it's seven months and not done, we'll be here eight. This road is our mission, these people are depending on us and we're going to do it. And you will not see home until you get your mission done."

Then he turned around and said, "But this is a motivated group of men and women. If we can do this in five months, we can go home in five months. It's up to you. Let's make it happen." That was his whole speech.

And we went to work, and we were motivated. And we did know what we were doing. And we busted our butts. And every time a truck came in that was broke down, I would fix it and turn it around as quick as I possibly could. There were days when me and one other mechanic flipped three, four trucks for transmission or clutch jobs in a day, in that environment. No easy task.

And we did that and five months later, almost like a prophecy from what the colonel said, we were done. It was almost like he knew we could do it. And we were thinking, we're going to go home.

They sent these guys out with these seismometer things and they went up and down the road, these high-level engineering guys, to make sure it was compacted right. This was a gravel four-lane, but graveled road, culverts everywhere to keep it from getting washed out. Because the whole thing went through the middle of this valley, up high in the mountains. And the road basically built a dam and that's why it was so hard to do because if all these culverts weren't put in to let the water flow through, they would just -- basically this dam would just break. And it would not only ruin the road we built, but it would harm all the people that lived on the other side, and basically they would have a flood. And they said, "Good. It's good to go." They certified it. Done. And we thought we were going home.

And they got the senior NCOs together, the sergeants, and the officers and the colonel. And they all got together, the first sergeants, and they said, "What do you think? What should we do now?" And the colonel said, "I think these men are motivated and I think we can do some good stuff here for the next month. We already have our deployment scheduled. Let's stay."

And there was some grumbling and grousing and stuff like that. We realized it was four weeks. It was four more weeks. Fine, let's do -- what are we going to do? And we had a lot of cinder block and a lot of raw materials. And we sent a few people home, some lesser support people that we didn't need. We began to scale back and strip down our own plywood buildings and things like that and create more resources. And then we took these resources and we went out and what we mostly did is we built schools.

I stayed turning my wrench. I stayed taking care of these vehicles. I stayed getting ready -- a lot of these vehicles ready to go home. See, I was going to say there six months full anyway. If we stayed six, I was going to be there seven, because I had to get the vehicles ready to deploy back. And as each vehicle was readied, the people would take them and drive them out to the port so that they could leave.

And I got those vehicles ready to go, man. And I was thinking about going home. And these guys went out and they built these schools. And then they built a bunch of schools. And then they said, "We still have stuff. What can we do?" And the towns had them build little community centers and things like that. And they went to some of the people that had kind of rudimentary housing and they fixed their housing. And that's what your soldiers did in peacetime. They built schools, they fixed houses, they built community centers. They built a road so that people that couldn't be supplied could become supplied, so that an area could develop into something that actually looked like civilization, because third world, my butt, this place was fourth world. You wouldn't believe what this place looks like. Maybe one day I'll scan all the pictures I have of it and get them online for you.

And see, something happened during that time that I didn't really get at the time, but boy, I get it now, that drove home for me how dangerous what we were doing was. Because I was 19, you don't get it when you're 19. Please understand the sacrifices an 18-year-old kid makes when he puts his hand up, joins the military and goes off to serve. And the fact that he won't even get what he did. He won't get what the people around him did for years.

One day, I was doing my job, I think we were swapping out one of the -- clutches went out like crazy in this place, because of the steep hills and things like that. And these old, old five-ton dump trucks. And it was a five-ton; they drag it over on a flatbed. It can't roll and they say, "We need you to do an ECoD on this truck for us." And I looked at it and went, "Okay, it's going to come out negative." And what I mean by that is an ECoD is Estimated Cost of Damages. And when a mechanic does that, he looks at the vehicle and he says, hey, this vehicle is either okay to be repaired, or it's going to cost so much to repair, we're better off junking it. And I can look at this vehicle and go there's no way it's going to come out positive on the ECoD. And they said you've got to it anyway so we can get it out of here.

So I started doing it and I just looked at it. And finally I asked the guy that brought it in, I said, "What happened?" And he says, "One of our guys was trying to get some gravel into a location where we hadn't really finished the road yet. It was really narrow and the road wasn't really good shape and the whole thing just collapsed out from underneath him. And the truck flipped end over end."

And if you've ever seen the big dump trucks that have the dump bed that comes over the cab of the truck, that's how these are. And that big flat piece that goes over the cab had been smashed down and actually crushed the roof of the truck where the driver was to where there was no room in the seat at all. The whole thing was smashed down and there was some blood in the vehicle and there was area down in the floor. But I said, "God, I guess he got killed." And the guy says, "No, he made it." I said, "Really?" He goes, "Yes, he ended up down there on the floor."

But his feet were broken, his ankles, his lower legs, his femurs, his pelvis was just completely shattered. I mean he had just been torn up. Couldn't walk, barely could move. They evaced him to a place called Soto Cano and from there he was taken back to San Antonio, to the San Antonio Medical Center, which is generally where when a foreign overseas solider from US Southcom is sent home, that's where they usually go is San Antonio. It's the best medical facility in that range.

And I don't know that man. I was detached to this unit. We were from an aviation unit and we were sent to support them to give them additional mechanical help. And I don't know his name, I never met him. He wasn't in my unit. And at the time, I just finished up my report. I thought about him for maybe a half an hour and I went back to doing what I had to do and being unhappy about being stuck in such a place and doing my job again. And that was somewhere in the middle, so it was a couple of months into it.

It's only years later when I looked back and I realized that on that hillside, on that day, the young teenage boy that society called a man, sacrificed a huge part of his life and almost died doing a dangerous job so that someone else's life could be a little bit better. So when you ask me why you should thank a veteran, that's why, because that's who our soldiers really are.

I'll tell you this about our soldiers even in combat after they've cleared a city, cleared a town, taken control of it, our soldiers are among a very elite group of soldiers in the world for a reason that doesn't get talked about a lot. Our soldiers are the ones that people and children run to instead of from. Our soldiers are the ones that play with the children instead of scare them. And don't tell me about the one-tenth of 1% that did terrible things, because again I can tell you about one-tenth of 1% of priests or schoolteachers or pastors or any other thing out there.

Let me tell you about the majority of them. They're men and women just like you that believe in something bigger than themselves. And they were willing to go out and do it.

And now I would like to tell you the story of Veteran's Day. The full story of Veteran's Day. I think this is something a lot of us that are my age or older learned back in school, but it gets filed somewhere way back in your brain and forgotten about in a brain cell that maybe has been hammered with a little too much alcohol over the years or something. But as the war to end all wars, World War I was ending, this when this day actually commemorates. It wasn't originally Veteran's Day.

Veteran's Day was originally called Armistice Day because it represented the end of World War I, the Great War. Again, the war to end all wars as it was called at the time, we know today that it was not the war to end all wars. In the end it was nothing but a prelude to something much more horrific. Of course that was World War II. But at the time, as World War I was coming to an end, the horror that had been unleashed on the world was something that was hard to fathom. It was the first war with truly modern weapons, with large numbers of troops. And they fought it at least in the beginning, on a large level the way you fought a war in the old days, before the modern weapons. And it was a meat grinder for men.

And it was a meat grinder for the civilian as well. It leveled and laid waste to parts of Europe that would take decades to recover. It was the most horrific thing that any living person had ever seen. And it just seemed like this has to be the last time that humanity will have the stomach for this. So it will be the final cease fire, the final truce.

And as the parties that be worked this out and put this together, they said, you know what? It's going to be right about the 11th of November. That's 11/11. And then among them they talked and they said, wouldn't it be glorious if we could say someday the guns fell silent in the 11th month, 11th day at the 11th hour? And they all nodded their heads and said, yes, that's a great idea. Let's do that. So even though there was plenty of time at this point, where everybody knew what the end was going to be, and all they had to do was sign the daggone piece of paper, but the 11th month, the 10th day, the 9th hour doesn't sound as cool, the war actually continued.

And if you watch an old film or read an old novel, one of the greatest novels you can read to understand how horrific war really is, it's called All Quiet on the Western Front, you'll see a true story of a commander who took his troops up out of the trenches to make the last charge of the war. He did this about 15 minutes before the Armistice was signed. And his men followed him. And when they took this charge, many of them died or were injured and they killed enemy soldiers and injured enemy soldiers. And this didn't have to happen, but somebody somewhere had decided that it was important enough to lose more lives in a war that had already taken the lives of millions so that someday we could have some enchanting voice and music play in the background, and see the big guns, boom, boom. And hear that deep voice coming at the end and say on the 11th month, on the 11th day, at the 11th hour, the guns fell silent and the final shot rings out. And the smoke clears, and now we have peace.

So when it became evident that World War I was not the war to end all wars and Armistice Day didn't really make sense anymore, and they started talking about let's change the name to Veteran's Day, let's make it a day to recognize all veterans that served all nations in the world. Let's make it a day to thank a vet. And you thank a vet today, whether you're in England or Canada or anywhere, somebody served your nation, you thank them for what they did.

But some people said this is dumb, we shouldn't do this. This is a terrible idea. Let's have a Veteran's Day, but not this day. Then the people that said let's just change it to Veteran's Day said why not? And they said this is stupid. A bunch of people got together, French and Germans and Canadians and they came up with this idea and more people because of it. And now this day, this day, this time, this thing is going to be when we recognize our veterans? For shame. Let's recognize our veterans on a different day. Not a day that commemorates the stupidity of those in charge. That cost the lives of more soldiers? That extended agony for one second longer than it had to be? We didn't learn the lesson of World War I. War is not glorious, war is horrific, it's nasty, it's bloody, it's dirty. It's a last resort, not a first response. We shouldn't commemorate the glory of folly. If we are to thank a veteran, we should do a different day.

But the other side won. And in some ways I think it's a good thing. Because it's important for all of us who live our lives in a world today full of computers and video games and MP3 players and all types of distractions, and we get angry if the temperature in our pool isn't right. And we get angry if the temperature in our home isn't right. We get angry if we're taxed one penny more or somebody else is taxed one penny less. We're angry if the item we went to the store for is not in the case that day, they're out of it. We're upset. There was a guy that called frickin' 911 because McDonald's didn't have McNuggets. That really happened.

So easy for people living in that society where we have time to even care about such minutia, to forget the sacrifices that our soldiers make for us every day, in peacetime and in war. The sacrifice that a 17, 18-year-old, 19-year-old child makes when they agree to wear the uniform and swear, something we should all swear to do, defend the Constitution of the United States of America so help us God. It's so easy to forget that.

And by doing it, on this day of folly, we need to remember that they will often be asked to do things that are a mistake. They will often be sent on a mission that will cost lives that's not necessary. Somebody will make some stupid decision somewhere at the Pentagon or somewhere around the world, and not just for our soldiers, for other soldiers that will cost lives that doesn't have to. And the soldier is not one that gets to say I'm not going to do that. You see, as a soldier, there's two types of orders that you are required by your duty to disobey: illegal and immoral orders. If you're given either one, you are trained you do not comply with the order. All other orders you comply with.

So when you're told to take the hill, even if they're going to give the hill up two weeks later, like they did repeatedly in Vietnam, you take the hill. And if you're wounded or you die trying, that's your job. It's so easy for us to forget that that is the world they live in. But if we can remember that because somebody somewhere thought it was cool to put three different 11's together on the same day so that they could have a beautiful glorious memorial to one of the most horrific things that ever happened to humanity, maybe, maybe we can remember. Maybe we can remember in our hearts what these people do for us today.

So I'll ask you again, as I close today, go find that Soldier, go find that Sailor, go find that Airman or that Marine. Go find that person again that served in our Coast Guard, you don't realize the dangers those guys go through. And I don't care again if they were National Guard or reservists, I don't care if they were stationed in South Carolina or Washington State, what you have to understand is from the day they rose that right hand up and took that oath forward until the day they were told you've done a good job, your time is over, your contract is fulfilled, you can go back to your civilian life and many times even after that. I was subject to recall for six years. They can go off and get a job, start living their life. They're not even in the Guard or reserves anymore, they're what's called the IRR, Individual Ready Reserves. This happened to people that it had been years from service in Gulf War one, because they had the new Patriot missile and there weren't enough people that knew how to use them. So they brought people that knew the old missile systems back, old men in their 40s and pulled them back into service.

From the day they raise their hand, that's always a possibility. Understand that. And then just because they were stationed in someplace where they weren't in danger or they did some job that you didn't think was dangerous, if they had been asked to go, they would have went. So find them. Shake their hand. Look them in the eye and then watch what happens when you say thank you. Watch them break eye contact. It'll happen. It'll happen every single time and now you know why. Now you know why.

And with that, this has been Jack Spirko with a special Veteran's Day podcast. Go out today and find a Soldier, find a Sailor, find a Marine, find an Airman. Grab their hand and tell them thank you. And tell them you appreciate the things they've done for you. It will matter more than you could ever know.