Jack Spirko: Very very cool. I think it is something people are going to rely on your additional resources for. That is not something that you can explain to something here. You know put this nut, this bolt, and this pipe together on an audio. Basically the answer is that it doesn't matter. You can do this with either vehicle so that's cool. Next person is asking about "Large production gasoline generators. 100 kilowatts or more. Use on a large scale." I guess maybe they want to sell electrify to the power company or something like that.
Steven Harris: This is something that you can do. You can go buy a 100 kilowatt generator and you can hook it up to the power grid. Do the phase matching. You can generate your own power from wood. It can be done and there are people doing it. You get all sorts of different credit for doing it. Some places have to buy "Renewable Energy" and you'll actually get 8, 10, 15 cents a kilowatt hour, instead of what is called the differed rate of 1.8 to 3.2 cents a kilowatt hour. Which makes it financially viable, you can do it. The 100 kilowatt generators, they come on a small trailer, like a trailer with 2 or 3 axes on it. Maybe 15 or 16 feet long. You can pull them behind a pickup truck. That is an idea to give you how big a 100 kilowatt generator is. You are going to need to have a stationary wood gas generator for them. Which is almost going to be equal in size of or bigger than the generator itself. The important thing with doing it like this is, is that you need to have a really good fuel feeding mechanism. Because it is not the gasifier that is hard to do. Gasification is pretty straight forward. It is the feeding of the material into the gasifier that is the labor intensive time production part. Our book, "Hydrogen generator for vehicle engines volume 6" is all about big stationary gasification. Especially material feeding mechanism and gas clean up. It makes it a whole lot easier, again we will put a link to this at Solar1234.com. And now is the time to buy the generator like this. There is a recession on. Now is the time to buy. These things are going at world record low prices right now and you can pick one up for 10 cents, 15 cents, 20 cents on the dollar. It's very viable.
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Jack Spirko: That is a pretty good size system too. I remember when i was in Honduras we had 2 large generators. I don't remember there size. they were bigger than 100 kilowatts that ran the whole camp. They looked like... Man I tell you what, when they brought one up the first time you could hear it clear across things. I wish i could remember what the wattage of those things were, but they were absolutely massive. 100 kilowatt is something, like you say, you can tow around with a little pickup truck if you wanted to. One thing we need to mention, you were talking about a differed rate and going rate, I guess you would say. Are there some states where you can't even do it either way? Or do all states have to buy it at the differed rate right now?
Steven Harris: Well, generally they will buy from you at the deferred rate. That definitions is "The price that they will be paying for electricity, when they build the next power plant. Which will be a coal or a nuke." Which is about 1.8 to 3.2 cents per kilowatt hour. Right now you're paying between 8.5 and 10 cents a kilowatt hour. Unless you're in the socialist republic of California who have artificially taxed their electricity to 20 to 25 cents a kilowatt hour. It varies from county to count, from state to state, and location to location. There are places that won't buy back your power. There are places that will only net meter power. Where they will take your power, but will only give you credit for as much as you actually use in your house or your business. If you produce more they keep it. It just varies all over the place. There is no standard really at the moment.
Jack Spirko: I am going to through an extra question in here then. Would a person benefit at all, if they could get a lot of scrap wood cheap, from building a gasifier? Getting a typical generator, more like somebody would use as a backup generator, not a big standby one, but you know a 75K or 100K or something like that. Hooking that up and basically setting that up to net meter, so it would run maybe a few hours a day. What ever surplus it provided would net meter back. Or is that just too much trouble for the return.
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Steven Harris: If that is your area of expertise. If you can fabricate or you want to buy the gasifier and you want to hook it up to the generator. You want to do the matching to the grid and you have someone that can help you do this, like a professional electrician. It would be worth the effort. Especially if you had; one the time and two you have the source of free material. It is entirely possible to do. You are going to have to jump through a few hoops, but it is possible. It would work. It would be beneficially. Not if you are slammed with having 4 kids and working 50 hours a week. It wouldn't be worth it to you.
Jack Spirko: I guess unless you can tell them kids, "An hour a day you are out there feeding the gasifier"
Steven Harris: Yeah, you want to feed the gasifier about once or twice a day, ideally. There are some systems out there where you can... The ones i was working on in Texas, we would actually load it with a front end loader. There would be a big grain auger and it would feed the gasifier. It would run for days. But that was an experimental unit we were working on. That is the real way to do it.
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