I actually spoke with someone very close to Bernard Von NotHaus, the former Mint Master at NORFED. The thought now is they are NOT from China, but someone else is putting these out. The NORFED people who are under injunction are mad as hell about this. It has me wondering if this is being done to set them up before trial (if there even is one). The rounds are very high quality. Too high quality for Chinese knock offs. I'll post as I find out more.