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One of the things that has really fed my interest in survival has been that of movies will a survival plot or theme.
Just saw Defiance last night at the theater. This was definitely be a real life scenario of the SHTF for the European Jews an how some of them survived in the forest for 3-4 years. Great movie if you are wondering.
I've been thinking lately that movies like Swiss Family Robinson, Castaway, Red Dawn, Jeremiah Johnson etc.. which have really impacted me.
So the reason for this post is to see what movie has impacted you and got you to thinking and contemplating survival and preparedness.
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Red Dawn and Swiss Family Robinson for sure. I gotta add GI JOE and Navy Seals. More recently Man Vs Wild, Survivorman, SAS: Are You Tough Enough and Ray Mears Bushwacking. That is awesome that you said Swiss Family Robinson, that is dead on. I also loved Magyver, not sure if that applies here, but it needs to be said.
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I would say Red Dawn was the biggest I watched it every time I could on TV back in the 90's then bought a VCR tape and wore it out, now I have it on DVD. The foreign invasion aspect hit home.
Swiss Family Robinson, Jeremiah Johnson for the Survivalist and Outdoors aspect
Deep impact, Day after Tomorrow, and Twister. Not that I think a Meteor will hit the earth, but the weather phenomenons and peoples reaction to being thrown out of the norm.
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I forgot to put down "I Am Legend" and the "Mad Max" series. Probably could add the "Terminator" series as well.
Amazing how much media there is revolving around a SHTF plot and what it takes to survive.
Also "Reign of Fire" was really good.
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The thing that pissed me off about I Am Legend is that he had sense enough to booby trap the street with mines/c4/whatever, but he didn't have enough sense to have more than one loaded magazine for his rifle!! Someone who's really prepared for that scenario would have a grab-bag to put on when he grabbed the rifle. Someone who's really prepared would not just drop their rifle after expending ONE magazine. They may drop it if there were others elsewhere. They would have several magazines stashed in at least three good defensive locations as well as back-up weapons. All he had was a freakin' baseball grenade in a drawer...(*sigh*)
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I agree BigDan that bothered me too. He was really prepared in one sense, but in that he totally lacked. I don't know if more ammo would have mattered though. He was an awful shot as evidenced by the deer. that REALLY pissed me off. I mean how do you miss a herd of freaking deer?
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Red Dawn and Jericho
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Jericho has been really good. Been watching it online. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/Jericho/video/
In regards to "I Am Legend" as much as I like the movie it did have some hooky aspects.
I thought the lions must have been CGI because they looked pathetic.
I agree about it being strange that he would run out of ammo. I definitely would have had enough for over kill.
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Jericho is also on CW on Sunday nights @ 6:00pm Central time.
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A few less well known ones that I like.
Death Hunt- Charles Bronson is a trapper wrongly accused of murder who leads Lee Marvin, a mountie, on a long chase through Canada's north woods.
Dersu Uzala- Film about a man by the same name who guides Russian soldiers trying to map out parts of Siberia.
Firefly series and Serenity movie- A group of people, living aboard the spaceship Serenity, who refused to submit to a totalitarian interplanetary government and have to evade said government while surviving by doing various under the table odd jobs.
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I forgot a major one (at least for me) Dune. This movie was awesome and the books are even better!
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Does anyone remember "Damnation Alley" That was definitely a SHTF scenario. The all terrain vehicle was pretty cool.
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I'd have to say Red Dawn was one of the things that kind of got me into this as a kid, I Am Legend, good idea, but i think it was carried out poorly. Jericho is my favorite tv series other then Guns & Ammo TV, the Outdoor channel, and the speed channel. Im not some tinfoil-hat wearing guy, but I do belive that something similar to Jericho will happen in the not-to-distant future, but more likley from Foreign countries than the USoA.
(I'm a complete newbie on here and all I have to say is wow, these forums have so much information and thoughts/suggestions and everything. Love the podcasts also.)
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Trigger Effect..How NOT to prepare for anything at all. Not a great flick, but interesting.
My favorite line from the movie..."Hey! You're the one that came here looking to buy a gun in the middle of a blackout."
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I liked I AM Legend. However, it does have some major plot holes when it comes to survivalism.
One point I would like to make -- if you have not done it yet, read the book. It is a much better story and more detailed from the survivalist point of view.
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Concur with JQP! I wish they would have stuck to the book plot a bit closer even though it was dated (1950s I believe). It was very well written.
BP
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I'll have to check that one out.
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Just watched Ever Since the World Ended...I really wish I had that hour back. I had to watch it because Adam Savage was in it. Now I'm racked with regret.
It should have be titled...When Only Hippies Are Left Seriously...12 years after a plague wipes out 99.99 percent of the population, and this is a group of people "surviving" in...wait for it...San Francisco. Of course, they have time to be artists and plan fancy dinner parties. Other than that...it's completely realistic. I give it two thumbs down and wish I had more thumbs.
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People might hate me for this, but The Day After Tomorrow was a pretty good survivalist film.
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The Day After Tomorrow was definitely huge propaganda film but I really enjoyed it as well.
I think Dennis Quaid is a pretty good actor and like most of what he does.
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I don't HATE you for it..but I beg to differ. Day After Tomorrow, like virtually everything that comes out of Hollyweird is about the actual event and not so much about surviving after it. Yes, DAT had a LITTLE bit of survival content to it. The facts that the kids knew how to survive better than anyone else was pretty ironic. I would be really interested in "The Years After the Day After Tomorrow" Why the Hell can't they make THAT movie?
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I don't HATE you for it..but I beg to differ. Day After Tomorrow, like virtually everything that comes out of Hollyweird is about the actual event and not so much about surviving after it. Yes, DAT had a LITTLE bit of survival content to it. The facts that the kids knew how to survive better than anyone else was pretty ironic. I would be really interested in "The Years After the Day After Tomorrow" Why the Hell can't they make THAT movie?
I can't argue with you there. I also wish the movie had shown other people surviving and what everybody did, but as Michael pointed out it is a huge propaganda film and they wouldn't want to encourage that sort of thing. :P
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Just watched Ever Since the World Ended...I really wish I had that hour back. I had to watch it because Adam Savage was in it. Now I'm racked with regret.
It should have be titled...When Only Hippies Are Left Seriously...12 years after a plague wipes out 99.99 percent of the population, and this is a group of people "surviving" in...wait for it...San Francisco. Of course, they have time to be artists and plan fancy dinner parties. Other than that...it's completely realistic. I give it two thumbs down and wish I had more thumbs.
Couldn't agree with you more about this film... but hey, the plague was a conspiracy after all ;)
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;D Yeah, I got a kick out of that bit of tinfoil hattery.
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People might hate me for this, but The Day After Tomorrow was a pretty good survivalist film.
I'm still trying to figure out how he covered so much ground in such short amount of time.....
Hated it. Now if they had filmed it here on North Slope AK with real cold and made them walk from Nome to Barrow.....well they would have died, so again not realistic ;D.
But don't hate you Roswell!
BP
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Does anyone remember "Damnation Alley" That was definitely a SHTF scenario. The all terrain vehicle was pretty cool.
That vehicle called the Landmaster (http://www.snowcrest.net/fox/landmaster/) is still around some place, I found it on the web a couple years ago. I was also able to find the movie on youtube divided into ten segments about ten minutes each. Damnation Alley (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CyprusCorners&view=videos&query=damnation+alley)
The same user has a movie posted called Warlords of the 21st century (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CyprusCorners&view=videos&query=%22warlords+of+the+21st+century%22) that looks kind of similar but I have only watched the first ten minutes so I don't know if its any good.
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I forgot a major one (at least for me) Dune. This movie was awesome and the books are even better!
I've never seen the movie, but the books were AWESOME (all of them). :) Other than the mention of Freeman, though, I'm not sure how it leans survivalist. And really, even the mention of the Freemen (in the survivalist sense) never exceeds anything other than imaginative speculation about still suits, and caves in the desert.
Now... If we're talking about resistance against the government... I totally agree that that shows up. I mean... It's an entire series of books basically about how government regulation screws everything up, and how all governments are corrupt at one point or another, and how the only truly true good guys are the outlaws. That's a great moral around which to spin a story, but is it really survivalist oriented? I'm not sure...
Then again, is it coincidence that most well-read survivalists I've met/talked to like the books? I'm not sure about that either. There might be an underlying something that I've accidentally missed. What do you think?
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I picked Dune because of several reasons. The people of Dune are true survivalist. They live in one of the harshest environments possible. A place where sweat itself is precious for its moisture. The Fremen go to great lengths to conserve water in every way imaginable. Not to mention they harvest the power of the sun and wind (and this was written in 1965). These people truly live off the land. They even find a way to grow their own food. In the middle of a completely tyrannical Empire, the Fremen are essentially self sufficient. Not only that, but they are fierce warriors, nobody can stand against their meticulously honed fighting techniques and fierce will to survive no matter what. They have mastered their environment and become one with it. They talk about camouflaging oneself and blending in with the terrain as they stalk their prey. At the same time they are ready for natural disasters (in this case huge sandstorms that are so fierce it will rip flesh from bone). Indeed they carry GHB or BOB, whatever you want to call them.
What you said is part of it, but not quite what I got out of it
Now... If we're talking about resistance against the government... I totally agree that that shows up. I mean... It's an entire series of books basically about how government regulation screws everything up, and how all governments are corrupt at one point or another, and how the only truly true good guys are the outlaws. That's a great moral around which to spin a story, but is it really survivalist oriented? I'm not sure...
I actually felt that the Atreides didn't screw everything up. They were loyal to the people and were a family of honor. I guess you could say the outlaws were the good guys, but that seems a little too easy. You have to look at the whole situation. The Fremen lived under a tyrannical government that carried nothing for the people and indeed thought of them only as numbers. They had no representation and were often quite literally treated as slaves. The message wasn't that all governments are corrupt, but that corrupt governments can not last. The people must be free. In such a situation isn't the oppressive force truly the outlaws.
So, here we have a book that speaks about conservation of resources, self-sufficiency, preparedness as well as teaching about morality, honor and freedom.
P.S.
I agree the books were AWESOME (all of them) ;)
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... I actually felt that the Atreides didn't screw everything up. They were loyal to the people and were a family of honor. ...
Right. I was actually focusing on the Butler family, and the Cenvas, more than the Atreides. You're absolutely spot on about the Atreides. Well, except, even then, there was corruption within the group (not the family, but the .. um.. "cabinet"? whatever you might call the group that traveled with the Atreides). At some point, it seems like every single ruling power has a corrupt person or two who end up *almost* ruining the entire series of books. Even Norma (my favorite character in the books before she goes all playboy bunny on us) ends up being nothing more (really) than a power hungry politician. I felt really disillusioned with the entire world (our world) when I finished the books. :D Funny what an author a group of authors can put you through when you let them, eh?
(hey, off topic - is your avatar Hunter S. Thompson?)
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You betcha. How could Hunter ever be off topic?
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I guess the reason I mentioned was mainly the Fremen and of course Duncan Idaho. :)
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You betcha. How could Hunter ever be off topic?
;D Who knows. I'm afraid nearly every good conversation I get into here is "off topic". lol!
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You betcha. How could Hunter ever be off topic?
;D Who knows. I'm afraid nearly every good conversation I get into here is "off topic". lol!
good discussions tend to do that ;)
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I don't HATE you for it..but I beg to differ. Day After Tomorrow, like virtually everything that comes out of Hollyweird is about the actual event and not so much about surviving after it. Yes, DAT had a LITTLE bit of survival content to it. The facts that the kids knew how to survive better than anyone else was pretty ironic. I would be really interested in "The Years After the Day After Tomorrow" Why the Hell can't they make THAT movie?
lol..."The Years After the Day After Tomorrow". Hilarious. Let's pitch it to Hollywood.
On the movie topic let's not forget a couple of the Costner flicks like "The Postman" and "Waterworld".
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On the movie topic let's not forget a couple of the Costner flicks like "The Postman" and "Waterworld".
I'd like to forget those films...
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I never saw Postman but did watch Waterworld. What a waste.
Kevin Costner is a strange actor to me. He has been in some great movies that I have enjoyed. Robin Hood Prince of Thieves (perhaps a survival movie) and I really liked Dances with Wolves but a lot of the time he is difficult to watch. Not sure if it is poor acting or what but it really seems weird to me.
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Congrats!! Of the two crappy Kevin Costner PAW movies...you watched the crappier one. :D
I have had the misfortune to have seen both. ::)
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Has anyone seen the movie or read the book "My side of the Mountain".
I loved it as a kid. It's about a young teen who lives in NYC and heads out to the woods for a year or so to see if he can survive.
Great to show kids if you got any.
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Here it is on youtube in ten minute segments. My side of the Mountain (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=WaxxFree&view=videos&query=my+side+of+the+mountain)
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Thanks Dan +1 for you. Didn't even think to look for it on Youtube.
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I just started looking for stuff like this on youtube the other day when Damnation Alley was mentioned and have been surprised at what I have been able to find there. For example I have been wanting to watch After MASH since I like the MASH series but haven't found it for sale recently. I was however able to find it on youtube. ;D
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OMG! I loved that book as a kid. I used to read it over and over! I had no idea they did a movie. That is so awesome. +1 Dan
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"My Side of the Mountain" has stuck with me ever since I saw in the theater (late 60's).
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I turned my kids on to the movie years ago and there is a scene in the movie where the kid's little sister is always saying "Next Summer". So whenever we didn't get to do something during the summer and one of us would say we'll have to do it next summer the whole family will repeat the words almost on cue "next summer".
Guess you have to be there, but pretty funny.
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FWIW we love Day After Tomorrow...but we just love it as a quirky, 'could this really happen?' type movie...and I think the dd likes Jake! lol
But Macgyver...now there was a cool guy...he could do anything with a gum wrapper!!
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Has anyone seen the movie or read the book "My side of the Mountain".
I loved it as a kid. It's about a young teen who lives in NYC and heads out to the woods for a year or so to see if he can survive.
Great to show kids if you got any.
I had my middle son read it for either summer reading or for English a year or two ago. He liked it. I was disappointed to find out it wasn't a true story! When I was a kid, that was the kind of thing I dreamed about doing.
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I'm surprised no one has brought up any of the zombie movies, especially the Robert Rodriguez flicks like" Night of the Living Dead" and all the sequels and remakes. I also enjoyed - 28 Days Later and The Happening. As far as books go, I wish someone would make Steven King's "Cell" into a movie. Again, none are too realistic, but fun anyway.
Red Dawn and Jericho are just givens.
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Has anyone seen the movie or read the book "My side of the Mountain".
I loved it as a kid. It's about a young teen who lives in NYC and heads out to the woods for a year or so to see if he can survive.
Great to show kids if you got any.
I had my middle son read it for either summer reading or for English a year or two ago. He liked it. I was disappointed to find out it wasn't a true story! When I was a kid, that was the kind of thing I dreamed about doing.
maybe this biographical info on the writer will make you feel better. This is on her website and wikipedia
"Jean Craighead George was born in Washington, D.C. and raised in a family of naturalists, Jean George has centered her life around writing and nature. Her father, mother, brothers, aunts and uncles were students of nature. On weekends they camped in the woods near their Washington, D.C. home, climbed trees to study owls, gathered edible plants and made fish hooks from twigs. Her first pet was a turkey vulture. In third grade she began writing and hasn't stopped yet. She has written over 100 books."
I swear I remember reading somewhere that when she was a little girl she tried to run away and live in the woods, but I can't remember where I read that. Also, this may interest you.
"George wrote four sequels[to My Side of The Mountain]: On the Far Side of the Mountain (1991), Frightful's Mountain (1999), Frightful's Daughter (2002) and Frightful's Daughter Meets the Baron Weasel (2007). This appears to conclude the sequels."
I read the first of those as a kid, but I wasn't aware of others. The one I read was good. Basically his sister wants to live in the woods too. I will have to check out those other 3
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Thanks Roswell for the research on the book. I will have to track those down.
This might not click with everyone but I read a book called "Wild at Heart" and one of the ideas that the author talks about is how Adam was created in the wilderness and placed in the garden. So his longing is for the wilderness because in a sense that is home. I thought it was something interesting to chew on. Seems like guys really enjoy the woods, fishing, hunting, hiking etc... and have some kind of inner longing to be back with nature. I know I do.
Kind of cool to think about.
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Talking about i am legend reminds me has anyone watched Omega man with Charleton Heston. (an oldie but goodie) Also due out sometime this spring or summer Is a movie based upon the book the Road post apocalyptic world. From what i gather it was supposed to come out this fall but was pushed back (wonder why?)
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Loved Omega man and its predecessor last man on earth. I loved the BBC series day of the Triffids 80's version if you have netflix you can view it instantly..
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Day_of_the_Triffids/70079027?trkid=222336&lnkctr=srchrd-sr&strkid=409933935_0_0 (http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Day_of_the_Triffids/70079027?trkid=222336&lnkctr=srchrd-sr&strkid=409933935_0_0) Great apocalyptic movie.
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Hey thanks for posting the link to My Side of the Mountain. I watched it this morning, and enjoyed it. I just wish I would have seen it when i was little, I'm gonna have to buy this one for my son.
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Has any one seen the original I am Legend Movie called The Last Man On Earth With Vincent Price .Great movie Especially if you like black and whites movies .He survived for years with only wooden stakes the defend himself .The zombie vampires didn't make much scents especially the talking ones .As far as books go as goofy as it sounds World War Z is a good book.Set in a world being consumed by a zombie plague .It deals mostly in fact and touches on every thing from government response to public unrest .
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IDK i have not seen it yet but ant broke back mounten about some ranchers surviving up on a mountan. in the cold??
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IDK i have not seen it yet but ant broke back mounten about some ranchers surviving up on a mountan. in the cold??
I believe it was, I think the ranchers had to huddle together for heat.
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IDK i have not seen it yet but ant broke back mounten about some ranchers surviving up on a mountan. in the cold??
I believe it was, I think the ranchers had to huddle together for heat.
They eventually sucked it up and the plot was driven home. Not sure if any one survived though.
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IDK i have not seen it yet but ant broke back mounten about some ranchers surviving up on a mountan. in the cold??
I believe it was, I think the ranchers had to huddle together for heat.
IDK i have not seen it yet but ant broke back mounten about some ranchers surviving up on a mountan. in the cold??
I believe it was, I think the ranchers had to huddle together for heat.
They eventually sucked it up and the plot was driven home. Not sure if any one survived though.
LMAO...(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n14/OzarkRamblr/Smileys/emot15.gif) Yeah, I guess Broke Back Mountain was a "survival" movie of sorts.
You two n'er-do-wells need to....
(http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n14/OzarkRamblr/Smileys/gutter.gif)
JohnnyBGood Wikity Clickety (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brokeback_Mountain) for an explanation of what that movie is about. ;)
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We digress
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Ya' think?
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Also that move "Into the Wild". At least I think that was the name of it where the college kid made his way up to Alaska. A lot to be learned from that movie. True story too.
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I really enjoyed "Into the Wild" Having lived in Alaska a number of years ago you learn quick that Alaska is not the place to be unprepared. Living off the land with just a backpack of stuff is a huge undertaking.
Now one great PBS show on Alaskan Survival was "One Man's Wilderness" a true story about a man who gets dropped of in the wilderness and videos diaries 30 years of his life as he builds a log cabin, fishes, hunts etc.
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I really enjoyed "Into the Wild" Having lived in Alaska a number of years ago you learn quick that Alaska is not the place to be unprepared. Living off the land with just a backpack of stuff is a huge undertaking.
Now one great PBS show on Alaskan Survival was "One Man's Wilderness" a true story about a man who gets dropped of in the wilderness and videos diaries 30 years of his life as he builds a log cabin, fishes, hunts etc.
Dick Proenekke, his diaries were edited in to a book as well.
http://www.dickproenneke.com/DickProenneke.html
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Yes, 'Red Dawn' and 'Jericho' are givens to me as well. The series 'Jeremiah' was pretty good.
There is a movie out there called 'The Survivalist' with Marjoe Gortner and Steve Railsback that could have been a whole lot better, but is OK for a B-ish movie. The Tagline for this is "His country destroyed. His family killed...now they must face him." 'Deep Impact' dealt with some survival after a natural disaster as well.
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The BBC show "Special Forces: Manhunt" was good too. Like 'Man vs Wild' with guns. This ran on the Military Channel!!!
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maybe this biographical info on the writer will make you feel better. This is on her website and wikipedia
"Jean Craighead George was born in Washington, D.C. and raised in a family of naturalists, Jean George has centered her life around writing and nature. Her father, mother, brothers, aunts and uncles were students of nature. On weekends they camped in the woods near their Washington, D.C. home, climbed trees to study owls, gathered edible plants and made fish hooks from twigs. Her first pet was a turkey vulture. In third grade she began writing and hasn't stopped yet. She has written over 100 books."
I swear I remember reading somewhere that when she was a little girl she tried to run away and live in the woods, but I can't remember where I read that. Also, this may interest you.
"George wrote four sequels[to My Side of The Mountain]: On the Far Side of the Mountain (1991), Frightful's Mountain (1999), Frightful's Daughter (2002) and Frightful's Daughter Meets the Baron Weasel (2007). This appears to conclude the sequels."
I read the first of those as a kid, but I wasn't aware of others. The one I read was good. Basically his sister wants to live in the woods too. I will have to check out those other 3
Thanks for that information - I think I had heard of "On the Far Side of the Mountain" but not the others. I might get OTFSOTM soon.
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Also that move "Into the Wild". At least I think that was the name of it where the college kid made his way up to Alaska. A lot to be learned from that movie. True story too.
We just hired "Into the Wild" yesterday - planning to watch it sometime this week!! Hadn't seen the posts here yet on it but I lucked out when I spotted it in the "Old or Dull Movies No One Really Wants to Check Out a Lot" section. Along with it we hired "I am Legend" which we watched last night - wish we hadn't.
Y'all may laugh - but from the ads I had seen for this movie I had no idea there were mutant zombies in it - which seems to be the main theme of the movie! Here I was, thinking this was going to be some nice movie about a guy learning to live by himself after everyone had died. Sort of Castaway in the Big City. Boy did I get a shock. I spent much of the movie getting very acquainted with dh's pajama shirt with the blankets over my head!! :o :o
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Gilligan's Island - now that was a resourceful lot. Look at the stuff they brought, although it was only supposed to be a 3-hour tour, a 3-hour tour....... (tic)
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Does anyone remember the name of the survival movie (made in the 1980's) with the following parts in it:
A "wannabee military" doctor who is part of a "family survivalist camp"
who gets a call while he is in the operating room about an "event" taking place which is a signal to go to the bug out location,
he picks up his hot looking trophy wife who is at home and rushes her out the door, spilling a glass of wine on the carpet.
In the mean time, his children, ex-wife and others get the word and leave to meet at the camp.
Once at the camp they set up and while keeping on a "tight schedule" this doctor who is the very anal leader set.
Does this ring a bell?
I know at the end there is a standoff where a child gets shot. Kind of weird, but had some entertainment value.
Thanks for your help
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Defcon 4 is also a good survival movie.
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The movie " I Am Legend " was very much toned down from the Richard Matheson novel. One cool thing about the book was that he wasn't a doctor, and he pretty much learned everything from books from the library. I think the creatures were more like vampires in the book as well. The novel was a lot more dark and depressing than the movie.
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The movie " I Am Legend " was very much toned down from the Richard Matheson novel. One cool thing about the book was that he wasn't a doctor, and he pretty much learned everything from books from the library. I think the creatures were more like vampires in the book as well. The novel was a lot more dark and depressing than the movie.
I liked that they could communicate as well. More like the Omega man.
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Defcon 4 is also a good survival movie.
Classic 80's cheese. I rented it last year, just to make sure it was as bad, and as good, as I remembered.
Some of you folks actually liked Jericho? i couldn't watch it after a couple of episodes. I would always just sit there thinking to myself 'I wouldn't do that' or 'That was a dumb move' over and over again.
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Well it's not like Jericho is well made. It is simply a SHTF scenario and kind of feeds my curiosity.
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I doubt that anyone truly knows how he/she would behave/handle such a situation. We all know how we HOPE we would react, but we have nothing (yet) to base such knowledge on.
As for Jericho - how many of us (not used to such hardship, fear, uncertainty, etc.) would really know how to react to that type of situation? Many of us are in our "own little world" and, while part of us believes that something like that could happen (to some degree), aren't willing to accept that it really will.
Jericho woke a lot (thousands) of people up. The parallel to what is going on in REAL life - as opposed to REEL life - is uncanny! (in fact there was a scene of the "new President" Tomarcho - when he was giving his speech, saying: "The Allied States of America" looked so much like Obama when he made a similar statement. The same tilt of the head, and "attitude".
The Jericho "citizens" acted - not as professionals who knew - without a doubt - what to do (as in so many REEL situations), but as one might expect the average citizen (in REAL life) to react. We aren't (most of us) trained in the proper response to ANY type of attack. We (most) would stumble (or freeze) as well. But we could - and would - learn.
There weren't any "superheroes" (stand behind me, I'll save the world) types in Jericho. Jericho expressed all the emotions that would undoubtedly be seen in real life.
The Jericho citizens persevered because of their strength of will, nor foreknowledge. That's what made Jericho great - it more closely reflected REAL life.
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I doubt that anyone truly knows how he/she would behave/handle such a situation. We all know how we HOPE we would react, but we have nothing (yet) to base such knowledge on.
As for Jericho - how many of us (not used to such hardship, fear, uncertainty, etc.) would really know how to react to that type of situation? Many of us are in our "own little world" and, while part of us believes that something like that could happen (to some degree), aren't willing to accept that it really will.
Jericho woke a lot (thousands) of people up. The parallel to what is going on in REAL life - as opposed to REEL life - is uncanny! (in fact there was a scene of the "new President" Tomarcho - when he was giving his speech, saying: "The Allied States of America" looked so much like Obama when he made a similar statement. The same tilt of the head, and "attitude".
The Jericho "citizens" acted - not as professionals who knew - without a doubt - what to do (as in so many REEL situations), but as one might expect the average citizen (in REAL life) to react. We aren't (most of us) trained in the proper response to ANY type of attack. We (most) would stumble (or freeze) as well. But we could - and would - learn.
There weren't any "superheroes" (stand behind me, I'll save the world) types in Jericho. Jericho expressed all the emotions that would undoubtedly be seen in real life.
The Jericho citizens persevered because of their strength of will, nor foreknowledge. That's what made Jericho great - it more closely reflected REAL life.
Nothing to base such knowledge on? You can't be serious.
Anyway, glad you liked the show.
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I doubt that anyone truly knows how he/she would behave/handle such a situation. We all know how we HOPE we would react, but we have nothing (yet) to base such knowledge on.
As for Jericho - how many of us (not used to such hardship, fear, uncertainty, etc.) would really know how to react to that type of situation? Many of us are in our "own little world" and, while part of us believes that something like that could happen (to some degree), aren't willing to accept that it really will.
Jericho woke a lot (thousands) of people up. The parallel to what is going on in REAL life - as opposed to REEL life - is uncanny! (in fact there was a scene of the "new President" Tomarcho - when he was giving his speech, saying: "The Allied States of America" looked so much like Obama when he made a similar statement. The same tilt of the head, and "attitude".
The Jericho "citizens" acted - not as professionals who knew - without a doubt - what to do (as in so many REEL situations), but as one might expect the average citizen (in REAL life) to react. We aren't (most of us) trained in the proper response to ANY type of attack. We (most) would stumble (or freeze) as well. But we could - and would - learn.
There weren't any "superheroes" (stand behind me, I'll save the world) types in Jericho. Jericho expressed all the emotions that would undoubtedly be seen in real life.
The Jericho citizens persevered because of their strength of will, nor foreknowledge. That's what made Jericho great - it more closely reflected REAL life.
Nothing to base such knowledge on? You can't be serious.
Anyway, glad you liked the show.
You have had such experience? Would you be willing to share? (Including how you handled the situation) Please.
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Lets see. From what I watched of the show food and water became an issue - yes, I've delt with that. Medical supplies became in issue, lets see, yes - I've delt with that too. There was a physical threat from some violent folks, yes, delt with that. Fuel ran short, so transportation was limited - seen that. Fires, floods, yes, yes. Nuclear Fallout...you got me there. Never delt with that. I suppose it would be like operating in other hazardous environments which i've done a lot of, and I doubt I'd approach it any differently than normal. What else...the folks in the show had it pretty good from what I saw, still had cops on duty, a medical center, weapons, limited supplies. Didn't look too bad overall.
Were you trying to cut me down, or genuinely curious?
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I'm pretty sure flagtag wasn't trying to cut you down at all.
I would like to hear about experiences anyone has had with any of the issues you pointed out. We can all learn from lessons of others.
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Lets see. From what I watched of the show food and water became an issue - yes, I've delt with that. Medical supplies became in issue, lets see, yes - I've delt with that too. There was a physical threat from some violent folks, yes, delt with that. Fuel ran short, so transportation was limited - seen that. Fires, floods, yes, yes. Nuclear Fallout...you got me there. Never delt with that. I suppose it would be like operating in other hazardous environments which i've done a lot of, and I doubt I'd approach it any differently than normal. What else...the folks in the show had it pretty good from what I saw, still had cops on duty, a medical center, weapons, limited supplies. Didn't look too bad overall.
Were you trying to cut me down, or genuinely curious?
Not at all. Just pointing out the fact that the majority of the people in this country have NOT experienced anything like that first hand. There are those who have experienced the devastation of fire, flood, earthquakes, hurricanes and that is disseminated repeatedly "for" us on TV daily - but in total, the number of US citizens that have really experienced anything like that is relatively small. We have only "experienced" it secondhand - through the media.
Yes, the Jericho "residents" had it fairly "easy", I guess. But the show pointed out the need to be prepared. ANYTHING can happen at any time! The fact that Jericho was such a small town helped them survive - together. Most of them knew each other. Had it been set in a large city, the storyline would have probably been quite different. "Community" - a sense of "togetherness" made the difference for the "citizens" of Jericho. They were closer to "family", than just neighbors. How many people in large cities really know all their neighbors - a couple hundred to a couple thousand? In this case "size" is everything.
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One I thought was very good was a film by Jon Avnet called UPRISING.
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Red Dawn...and I am surprised nobody mentioned Rambo. :) Rambo was what inspired me to learn to built snares and shelters as well as to get involved in bow hunting.
I also consider Fight Club a modern survivalist movie. He lived on the fringe and generally off the grid while eschewing dependence on "the system." This movie did a great job of showing the difference between what you WANT and what you NEED. "The things you own, own you." Make your own soap...make your own explosives!
The vehicle in Damnation Alley was very cool. I must be the only other guy that remembers that movie. :)
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How about the day after tomorrow???And why is it that people never have the simple stuff for when the shit hits.???
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I'm surprised The Edge hasn't been mentioned. If you can stand Alec Baldwin you should give it a shot.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119051/
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Panic in Year Zero starring Ray Milland and Jean Hagen 1962 Movie
http://www.fancast.com/movies/Panic-in-Year-Zero/71473/828530953/Panic-in-Year-Zero/videos?cmpid=FCST_share
You can watch the entire movie for free on Fancast:
http://www.fancast.com/movies/Panic-in-Year-Zero/71473/watch-it?cmpid=FCST_share
Other links:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056331
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_in_Year_Zero!
http://www.amazon.com/Panic-Year-Zero-Last-Earth/dp/B000787YOA
gigaJack
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You can watch the entire movie for free on Fancast:
http://www.fancast.com/movies/Panic-in-Year-Zero/71473/watch-it?cmpid=FCST_share
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Does anyone remember the name of the survival movie (made in the 1980's) with the following parts in it:
A "wannabee military" doctor who is part of a "family survivalist camp"
who gets a call while he is in the operating room about an "event" taking place which is a signal to go to the bug out location,
he picks up his hot looking trophy wife who is at home and rushes her out the door, spilling a glass of wine on the carpet.
In the mean time, his children, ex-wife and others get the word and leave to meet at the camp.
Once at the camp they set up and while keeping on a "tight schedule" this doctor who is the very anal leader set.
Does this ring a bell?
I know at the end there is a standoff where a child gets shot. Kind of weird, but had some entertainment value.
Thanks for your help
I found out the name of the movie...it was MASSIVE RETALIATION and was made in 1984. Check this link if your interested; http://www.mtv.com/movies/movie/22324/moviemain.jhtml
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I'm going to have to go out on a limb and say THE THING..... Trapped in an isolated location with the added benefit of group dynamic stress.... like i said out on a limb! ;)
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All these pages and nobody mentioned the TV series from the 70's "Survivors" or "The Survivors" as it had "The" added on a lot but it's not really part of the title.
It's about how some scientist in China infects himself accidentally with a plague type virus and he then flies all over the world which starts this huge amount of people dieing. Something like 1 in 5000 people survive the virus.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072572/
The great thing about this show is that it seems very true to what could possibly happen in a SHTF situation such as this. There is people who are hoarding the food in the supermarkets and stuff in shops, gas, etc by having a roving band of people running around towns with guns. So the main people of the show set out to setup a independent life on a small farm. They even make points to not try and use tractors and what not because it will waste gas and even if they can make there own gas through saving the gases off manure they wouldn't be able to fix the tractor if it broke.
Well worth checking out if you can. I have all 3 seasons and have watched them at least 2 times.
Of course other tv shows are:
Survivorman (which includes Stranded, Snowshoes and Solitude, Living off the Grid)
Ray Mears (Bushcraft, Extreme Survival, World of Survival, Wild Food, Walkabout)
BTW I wouldn't watch Man VS Wild if you paid me, that guy is a complete fake in that he was staying in hotels while acting like he stayed outdoors.
My other favorites have already mentioned a lot are in no particular order:
Blindness (good movie to show what FEMA camps will likely be like in a big SHTF situation, though with blind people)
Defiance (great movie, a must see)
Hunted (cheesy especially the knife fights, but it has it's moments)
The Shooter (again cheesy but it has it's moments)
Mad Max Series (again cheesy but it has it's moments)
Predator (very cheesy, but it does have some survival things, like traps)
Rabbit Proof Fence (well worth seeing for anyone interested in liberty and survival)
Red Dawn (has it's moments and is pretty realistic in that most of the people die)
Rescue Dawn (pretty good, another jungle survival movie for part of it)
Robinson Crusoe (the book is much better as it goes into a lot of detail, talks about planting crops etc which the movie doesn't cover)
The Postman (a bit out there, and needs more survival stuff but it's ok)
Shaun of the Dead (a bit zombie, a bit comedy, a bit survival)
I am Legend (very crappy compared to the books, but still a little interesting)
City of Ember (more a kids movie, but interesting, sorta like Fall Out 3 the movie)
Dawn of the Dead (zombies)
Land of the Dead (zombies)
13 Monkeys (A bit strange, but pretty interesting)
28 Days Later (zombies)
28 Weeks Later (zombies)
The Terminal (stuck in airport, about as much about survival as the zombie movies are since both are about as likely to happen)
I know there is more, but those are the ones I have to look at and can think of at the moment. But I highly recommend you check out the Survivors TV show.
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Gah, please don't put the 28's in the Zombie genre, they don't go there.
As for Rodriguez, the best things he did were D2Ds and the El Mariachi series. I'm sure he's bound to muck up Red Sonja for everyone.
For zombies, Romero is the way to go as Russo is a tool and the best thing he did was to decry the trash directors made once he quit his franchise.
I would highly reccommendhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_(2008_TV_series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_(2008_TV_series)), Survivors. It's a remake of the 70s one, which is also good. Jericho is fine by me also. Anything with a group dynamic I like a lot. Survivors is a series I happened upon by accident and was upset when the season ended.
The Postman book is a lot better than the move in my opinion and not because I dislike Costner. I used to hate him, but I like him now, he's caught some bad breaks.
The I Am Legends are also good, the novel is great and Vincent Price in the Last Man on Earth is also awesome. The newer one turned out better than I hoped. Omega Man and those types of era films are cool. None of which are zombies, but are vampiric in nature I'd even suggest some of the Planet of the Apes films.
For a larger and more comprehensive list, I generally get stuff from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apocalyptic_and_post-apocalyptic_fiction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apocalyptic_and_post-apocalyptic_fiction)
EDIT: Realized I didn't really answer the "What got you started" thing and it would probably be OT Nelson's "The Girl Who Owned a City". I got this book when I was about 10 from Scholastic and still have it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Owned_a_City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Owned_a_City)
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Gah, please don't put the 28's in the Zombie genre, they don't go there.
As for Rodriguez, the best things he did were D2Ds and the El Mariachi series. I'm sure he's bound to muck up Red Sonja for everyone.
For zombies, Romero is the way to go as Russo is a tool and the best thing he did was to decry the trash directors made once he quit his franchise.
Whats wrong with referring to the 28's movies as "zombie" movies? They seem pretty much like zombies to me.
When you say D2D are you referring to Dusk to Dawn? Seen it and like it, but not one of my favs. Never seen the Living Dead series that I can remember (isn't that what Russo made?).
I would highly reccommendhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_(2008_TV_series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_(2008_TV_series)), Survivors. It's a remake of the 70s one, which is also good. Jericho is fine by me also. Anything with a group dynamic I like a lot. Survivors is a series I happened upon by accident and was upset when the season ended.
The Postman book is a lot better than the move in my opinion and not because I dislike Costner. I used to hate him, but I like him now, he's caught some bad breaks.
The I Am Legends are also good, the novel is great and Vincent Price in the Last Man on Earth is also awesome. The newer one turned out better than I hoped. Omega Man and those types of era films are cool. None of which are zombies, but are vampiric in nature I'd even suggest some of the Planet of the Apes films.
I have seen some of the new Survivors and it just doesn't do it for me. I have seen 8 episodes (IIRC) and it seems just a complete re-make almost exactly the same as the old series. To me the old series is MUCH better than the new one. Maybe it is just I can't stand having basically the same characters and even some of the names are the same player by completely different people, I think it ruins it for me. I might check back when there at least a couple seasons into it so see if it's worth my time, I hate getting into a show and then it being canceled like has happened with too many shows I enjoy.
I saw one of Omega Man/Last Man On Earth I can't remember which, it was a bit hard to watch since it's so old (anything in B/W is hard for me to watch, and the older it is the harder it is) but I did enjoy it. I watched it because I was really disappointed in I Am Legend when I heard how the story REALLY goes, and how they put a "upbeat ending" on the movie instead of the ending it is supposed to have.
Mainly I just listed the movies I have since I have a hard time remembering all the other ones I have seen.
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The Omega man is the one with Heston. Vincent price is Neville in the last man on earth. Which is the B&W one.
The Omega man is by far the best in my opinion.
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I am pretty sure both 28 movies were zombie flicks. They could also be called pandemic movies too though. Either way, they definitely had a ton of zombies in them.
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I am pretty sure both 28 movies were zombie flicks. They could also be called pandemic movies too though. Either way, they definitely had a ton of zombies in them.
I hate to be a pest, but zombies are generally defined as a human that has returned from the dead..... The humans in the 28 movies are infected beings that exhibit extreme cases of psychotic behavior..... A drop of blood into the father's eye turned him into an infected person without him keeling over and dying first...... Infected people, NOT zombies
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You can find the 70's Survivors series on YouTube here http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DFORCE1969&view=videos&query=Survivors (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=DFORCE1969&view=videos&query=Survivors)
I am pretty sure the infected in the 28 movies were infected with the rage virus not reanimated dead, thus not really zombies.
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I am pretty sure both 28 movies were zombie flicks. They could also be called pandemic movies too though. Either way, they definitely had a ton of zombies in them.
I hate to be a pest, but zombies are generally defined as a human that has returned from the dead..... The humans in the 28 movies are infected beings that exhibit extreme cases of psychotic behavior..... A drop of blood into the father's eye turned him into an infected person without him keeling over and dying first...... Infected people, NOT zombies
touche. You are right. I guess I never really thought it through that way.
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Right. I and many others have had this debate hundreds of times. The 28s are not zombie movies, if you need to, please refer to them as infected or something along the lines. They were marketed as zombie movies for support.
Russo did indeed.
I like both Survivors series, the new one, to me, is a nice change and update. Lots of support for survivalism in Britain because of them.
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Right. I and many others have had this debate hundreds of times. The 28s are not zombie movies, if you need to, please refer to them as infected or something along the lines. They were marketed as zombie movies for support.
Russo did indeed.
I like both Survivors series, the new one, to me, is a nice change and update. Lots of support for survivalism in Britain because of them.
I would love to find info about British survival retreats.... It would be interesting to see how they are set theirs up compared to how Americans generally view their retreats.
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I see your point, it seems the definition of zombie is re-animated human corpse, so your right. But calling them "Infected" just doesn't seem right to me, I wish there was another word that seemed to fit right.
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Well it didn't help that Boyle and Garland (Directory, writer) kept referring to the 28 series as '...a post apocalyptic, horror and zombie film' (from wikipedia)
I myself as a zombie purist, much to my wife's dismay, but I also love horrible b-rate flicks. Needless to say she's seen her share of the good and the bad.
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As of now, I'm unaware of a sub-genre concerning 'infecteds', though I've tried countless times to start one.
And as before, they were indeed marketed as such for support, much to the dismay of zombie buffs. However, I liked them. Yes, even the second one.
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As of now, I'm unaware of a sub-genre concerning 'infecteds', though I've tried countless times to start one.
And as before, they were indeed marketed as such for support, much to the dismay of zombie buffs. However, I liked them. Yes, even the second one.
Oh I definitely liked the movies, they just werent Zombies..... The scary part is what they were seems WAY more plausible than zombies..... Wait, does that mean I thnk zed-heads are a possibility.......
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Stephen King's The Stand had some post pandemic scenes in it what with the body disposal crew, people trying to get the power back on and turn off all the appliances that were left on when everybody else died.
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ok ok i got the one for ya.the resident evil movies. thay have it all !! Now if i can find a woman like her dang.hot can shoot any thing rides all around bad ass come on u have to show some love. oh this one ;D ;D ;D
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Has anyone seen the movie or read the book "My side of the Mountain".
I loved it as a kid. It's about a young teen who lives in NYC and heads out to the woods for a year or so to see if he can survive.
Great to show kids if you got any.
And for the kids, let's not forget the 70's cheesy but sweet Wilderness Family (1 & 2). My kids really like them.
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Well I liked the cheesy Mountain Family movies. I pretty much enjoyed anything that had to do with wilderness or deserted island themes.
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I just finished watching Alone in the Wilderness on PBS (http://www.dickproenneke.com/). It's was an awesome documentary. It's about a man who lived alone, off the land in Alaska for 35 years.
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Yeah I loved the Alone in the Wilderness is incredible. It has been on dozens of times on PBS and I stop to watch it almost every time.
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For those who mentioned Jericho, the CBS site has no real order, and is missing a few episodes. I rewatch it on joost occasionally. All Episodes, in order, on one big playlist. Beats the CBS site anyway.
http://www.joost.com/09400vp/t/CBS-Jericho?gclid=CKHC0-inqZkCFRLoxgod3HT90g
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BTW--- Just read that a Jericho movie is in the works....... info is on the Jericho wikipedia page.
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kinda cheesy older movie called "a boy and his dog" (1975)
if you can get over the fact that the boy talks to his dog, then its worth watching
it gets a bit creepy but the ending is WELL worth it.
"Vic (a young Don Johnson) roams a postapocalyptic wasteland accompanied by his telepathic, ever-grumbling dog, eventually winding up in the clutches of a female-dominated underground society that wants his sperm. This low-budget cult film remains darkly humorous and unflinchingly brutal as its characters face difficult choices -- and the end of the world as they know it."
-newb
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On the surface at least, his choices don't sound so difficult to me.
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there is more to it for sure
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Its actually a pretty strange movie..... Mad Maxish in the sense that the people are all weird..... Strange clothes and all that..... But overall if you like B Movies, then this is at least entertaining enough to say "hey i saw it".
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Almost forgot about this scene from Demolition Man, great scene with Denis Leary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JizGkM6gbvQ
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EDIT: Realized I didn't really answer the "What got you started" thing and it would probably be OT Nelson's "The Girl Who Owned a City". I got this book when I was about 10 from Scholastic and still have it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Owned_a_City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Owned_a_City)
I love that book!
I think that is what got me started too! Even now I drive past a high school and think about how easy it would be to turn it into a city! No windows, and large brick walls. A prison, really! LOL! There was a Star Trek episode with the same kind of theme, too - where all the adults died. Original Star Trek, not the remakes from the 90's
I am a book person, not so much a movie person, so I would have to add the "Z for Zachariah" book as well.
And as for movies, Red Dawn. LOVE that movie.
Like the cheesy 80's flick The Day After - no one has mentioned that one yet! Some cable channel had it running over and over the night before my sister's wedding. I thought it was a funny coincidence as we watched it over and over while making last minute wedding preps.
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No windows, and large brick walls. A prison, really! LOL!
Hahaha, I went to highschool in Maine. The town didn't want to spend the extra money having an architect design their new school, so they bought plans for a prison and just made the cells bigger. ::)
I love watching "The Day After", but it freaks my wife out so much that I never get to see it.
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I just watched a move called RIGHT AT YOUR DOOR. It's not a great movie and not much about prepping, but it is the story of a dirty bomb and a boilogical agent being released in LA. It is something to think about.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458367/
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I just watched a move called RIGHT AT YOUR DOOR. It's not a great movie and not much about prepping, but it is the story of a dirty bomb and a boilogical agent being released in LA. It is something to think about.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0458367/
It was pretty good. I kinda liked it.
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Prisons and schools are built a lot alike everywhere. A good thing to remember in this case is that most places built to keep people in can be used just as well to keep people out. There are two schools and a prison in my resource building dossier.
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5AM....Twilight Zone, "The Obsolete Man". Good stuff, very 1984-ish, or Equilibrium-like. Equilibrium is also a cool story of people surviving.
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Last night I watched a movie called blindness. It involves a blindness epidemic, a few people quarantined and left to fend for themselves, one person never gets the blindness, but she can't seem to pick up the scissors fast enough >:(
they end up getting out, into the city, to find the epidemic spread throughout. It dealt with aspects of social breakdown & survival in an urban area.
I might have enjoyed it a bit more if I hadn't been so busy yelling into the TV at the stupid characters!
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Just saw "Knowing: (Nicolas Cage). It's not a "survival" movie, but leaves you some things to think about.
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Ive got a good one for you...TREMORS. (1990) with kevin bacon
here is a link to the trailer - http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2197750041/
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Ive got a good one for you...TREMORS. (1990) with kevin bacon
here is a link to the trailer - http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2197750041/
Casting Reba and the dad from Family Ties as gun nuts was about as genius as one can get.
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Ive got a good one for you...TREMORS. (1990) with kevin bacon
here is a link to the trailer - http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2197750041/
I kid you not this is my wifes favorite movie of all time and I bet she has seen it over a hundred times. She can quote the movie word for word....lol
Found My side of the mountain on DVD, never seen it before and I liked it.
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No greater movie in my opinion! 8)
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i use to watch this when i was a kid, and my older brother use to tease me when i went "#2"....watch out,,, or those graboids will get you......
i joke. i am not really sure where that one came from.
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what about post-EMP world in Dark Angel. yeah there's some science fiction in it, but the setting is post-apocalyptic
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I don't think anyone has mentioned "The Snow Walker", a great movie, in my opinion, about how the most harshest environment provides sustenance.
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Snow_Walker/70032916?trkid=496751
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I don't think anyone has mentioned "The Snow Walker", a great movie, in my opinion, about how the most harshest environment provides sustenance.
http://www.netflix.com/Movie/The_Snow_Walker/70032916?trkid=496751
The DVD special features are cool too.
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just finished Red Dawn for the first time....me likey
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just finished Red Dawn for the first time....me likey
Since you just saw Red Dawn, you will like the graphic on Swanson's signature page that says "Resist. The chair is against the wall." I think Swanson is kidding a bit, but you'll like the reference.
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!!!WOLVERINES!!!
;D :D ;D
An absolute American classic...
swanson
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Swanson's sig is one that always makes me smile. Very ingenious!
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I'll give you a plus 1 if you can finish the rest of Swanson's quote.
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it's a long dang quote. Worth more than +1. See now I want to go watch Red Dawn.
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I thought it was something like "John has a long mustache".
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that's certainly part of it. ;)
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One the the best movies I've ever seen on being prepared or the lack there of is call The Trigger Effect with Elizabeth Shue. It really does a good job showing how human nature and society kicks in during a crisis.
There's one scene were a family that has kids tells a neighbor during a neighborhood meeting that they are entitled to their neighbor's generator because they have kids and the genie owner doesn't. Things go bad from there .......
Great movie
BP
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The DVD special features are cool too.
I reviewed those special features today, never looked at them before, thanks for the tip. Just making the movie apparently was a survival adventure.
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I reviewed those special features today, never looked at them before, thanks for the tip. Just making the movie apparently was a survival adventure.
I love the polar bear scenes and the mosquito's....WOW
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Has there ever been a movie/TV special on Shackleton?
"Lord of the Flies" - I've often thought the book was an excellent depiction of the assumption of leadership in a state of anarchy, never saw the movie.
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Not a survival movie per se, but I just re-watched "Atomic Cafe." This compilation of training films, newsreels and archival footage is amazing to watch now for several reasons. The palpable immediacy of the threat that comes through in the civil defense messages, the various government and military agencies putting a harmless spin on the consquences of nuclear detonations, and some of the shown preparations that are comical in their naivete. Check out the 2 girls with the food storage demo - priceless. Everyone was a survivalist then.
The film has a political agenda to be sure, but there is no commentary outside of the archival footage and the clips are interesting in their own right.
I first saw this movie when it came out in 1982 with my wife (then girlfriend). I was living in Berlin and the cold war was very much on. Next to Peter Kuran's excellent documentary series, this movie contains some of the most interesting collection of footage for those interested in nuclear history.
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Hi my favorite survival TV was the original 3 series BBC 1970's SURVIVERS really bleak and with no background music because the BBC were really cheep but this somehow seemed appropriate,
I loved both Jeremiah and Jericho
I also liked the Postman which looked fantastic. The local TV listing mags review was a one liner it said "Kevin Costner impersonates a postman". Kind of missing the point i think
Mark
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A movie I liked was Touching the Void. Also I just watched "A Cry in the Wild" which is a movie based off Gary Paulsen's "Hatchet". The book is much better but the movie isn't worthless. I would say it is good for a child. :P
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!!!WOLVERINES!!!
;D :D ;D
An absolute American classic...
swanson
I read somewhere there is going to be a remake.
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Yep, they are remaking Red Dawn and Robocop. And Red Dawn is supposed to be updated to fit with a situation more like we'd see today. Just hope they don't plug it up with happy feelings and PC bullshit to make it more friendly to wusses. I liked the original. A LOT. These guys invade your home and are killing your people. Kill them. Simple.
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These guys invade your home and are killing your people. Kill them. Simple.
Unless we're the ones doing the invading and killing.
My favorite part of Red Dawn (which I have not seen in several years) was the Russian guy translating for the Russian officers up in the mountains.
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Unless we're the ones doing the invading and killing.
My favorite part of Red Dawn (which I have not seen in several years) was the Russian guy translating for the Russian officers up in the mountains.
I loved that part too....... My only thing about a remake is this.... Can u imagine the uproar when this gets made? Russian and South/Central Americans invading the US..... There is going to be some backlash about the US being xenophobic..... I can see the headlines now.
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I loved that part too....... My only thing about a remake is this.... Can u imagine the uproar when this gets made? Russian and South/Central Americans invading the US..... There is going to be some backlash about the US being xenophobic..... I can see the headlines now.
Make the invaders zombies.
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I love zombie movies, but that's not the essence of Red Dawn..... People would bitch that we aren't having enough dialogue with the undead!
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I love the scene where they load up survival gear at the gas station before heading to the hills.
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I love zombie movies, but that's not the essence of Red Dawn..... People would bitch that we aren't having enough dialogue with the undead!
There wasn't much dialogue with the Cubans and Russians, either. Anyway, with the advent (since the previous Red Dawn) of the Department of Homeland Security it's really hard to imagine the Russians/Cubans successfully invading. There might be some border skirmishes but the invaders would be crushed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GQ0xP-an6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GQ0xP-an6U)
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Anyway, with the advent (since the previous Red Dawn) of the Department of Homeland Security it's really hard to imagine the Russians/Cubans successfully invading. There might be some border skirmishes but the invaders would be crushed.
More likely, Napolitano and company wouldn't be aware of the invasion until a month after it was completed. ;)
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lol Don't get me started on her. We have a personal connection. There could be a scene in the movie, though, where she sees the error of her ways,fights the odds and engineers a rescue of concentration-camped, right-wing-extremist, former veterans to save us from the invasion. I envision it as being sorta like that scene in the 3rd Lord of the Rings movie where they convince the ghosts to fight for them.
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Quick heads up for any UK movie lovers....
Red Dawn starts in 10 minutes time (10pm) on Virgin+1
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The Trigger Effect.
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It's 11:59 on Radio Free America; this is Uncle Sam, with music, and the truth until dawn. Right now I've got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the occupied zone: "the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall", "john has a long mustache, john has a long mustache". It's twelve o'clock, American, another day closer to victory. And for all of you out there, on, or behind the line, this is your song.
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I am watching Survival School, on Hulu.com
its is pretty cool and free.
it is under the reality and game show channel. check it out
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New movie called 2012 http://www.whowillsurvive2012.com/ It's a COMEDY! Click on the links for This is the End and The IHC
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Richard Harris made a movie in the 70's called "Man in the Wilderness". It's about a man who in on an Expedition in the American or Candian west, but is injured and left for dead by the people he is traveling with. He uses all kinds of survival methods to walk out back to civilization. A good movie that has lots to offer... 8)
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Thanks to whoever suggested "The Snow Walker". I watched it for free on Hulu with the wife and we both really enjoyed it (especially for free) It was also really cool that the wife was willing to watch it with me. I showed her the trailer (which is way too long and reveals too much) and she went for it.
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Thanks to whoever suggested "The Snow Walker". I watched it for free on Hulu with the wife and we both really enjoyed it (especially for free) It was also really cool that the wife was willing to watch it with me. I showed her the trailer (which is way too long and reveals too much) and she went for it.
You have got to watch the DVD extras, almost as good as the movie.
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Well, I am going to have to wait until I have a little more cash flow to pay for movies. LOL The commercials aren't that bad, but I do miss out on those features. Also, I am now addicted to Survival School on Hulu, but I can't find Episode 8 (anywhere!). Has anyone else found it? Hulu doesn't have it and neither does anyone else.
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Alone In The Wilderness is on GPB right now for those of you in Georgia.
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Alone In The Wilderness is on GPB right now for those of you in Georgia.
WooHoo! Dick Proeneke is my hero.
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Survivors, The (http://crackle.com/c/Survivors,_The)
Running Time: 1:43:14 Rating: R Genre: Comedy
Synopsis: This comedy takes two unemployed New Yorkers (Robin Williams and Walter Matthau) and puts them in a survivalist camp, after they cross a hit-man who's now bent on revenge.
Starring: Robin Williams, Walter Matthau, Jerry Reed
I was going to buy it but I found it on crackle.com below.
http://crackle.com/c/Survivors,_The
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When the Wind Blows can be found here (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=brucearmstrong1&view=videos&query=WHEN+THE+WIND+BLOWS)
Animated with a run time of approximately 1 hour and 15 minutes
"With the help of government-issued pamphlets, an elderly British couple build a shelter and prepare for an imminent nuclear attack. A classic little cartoon of hugely disturbing proportions. English 1986. Soundtrack includes songs by David Bowie, Genesis, and Pink Floyd's Roger Waters." YouTube user brucearmstrong1
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'24' season 2 had a survivalist guy in it (although it portrayed him as a nut. Actually, every guy that wasn't an LEO or federal agent was portrayed as a freak.)
He had at least 4 long guns on a rack upstairs, but when he bugged out to his bomb shelter, he left the long guns on the rack. He did have a couple of cots, lots of ammo, and some hand grenades which I thought was a little unrealistic. He had a bunch of guns and ammo, but he was ready to spend years sleeping only on a military cot? If he really planned that far ahead, you'd think he'd find something a little more comfortable.
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Alone in The Wilderness was awesome I highly recommend it. The original Man Vs Wild and still very relevant
When the Wind Blows was pretty good too. Funny Alex Jones mentioned the other day that maybe he should make cartoons to wake people up, because they were at such a child like state. I think this movie does that.
That guy on 24 was an idiot and it was the usual case of the mainstream media demonizing our community.
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There wasn't much dialogue with the Cubans and Russians, either. Anyway, with the advent (since the previous Red Dawn) of the Department of Homeland Security it's really hard to imagine the Russians/Cubans successfully invading. There might be some border skirmishes but the invaders would be crushed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GQ0xP-an6U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GQ0xP-an6U)
How do you know that they aren't already here? And with more coming in every day.
Fact is - we don't know who is coming in. Or how many. Our "great" govenment is so hungry for the illegal vote, they are looking the other way.
The invasion may have already started. :o
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HEADS UP!!!!
Red Dawn coming on @ 8 on WGN
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Thanks! ;D
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It's 11:59 on Radio Free America; this is Uncle Sam, with music, and the truth until dawn. Right now I've got a few words for some of our brothers and sisters in the occupied zone: "the chair is against the wall, the chair is against the wall", "john has a long mustache, john has a long mustache". It's twelve o'clock, American, another day closer to victory. And for all of you out there, on, or behind the line, this is your song.
nailed it +1
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jerimiah johnson still rocks.
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(Probably already posted by someone else) Defiance was a great movie. It was like Red Dawn, but based on a true story, and a lot more realistic. I always wondered though why they never showed anyone trying to produce their own food. They stole and foraged, but i didn't see any crops or animals.
Did I miss something?
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(Probably already posted by someone else) Defiance was a great movie. It was like Red Dawn, but based on a true story, and a lot more realistic. I always wondered though why they never showed anyone trying to produce their own food. They stole and foraged, but i didn't see any crops or animals.
Did I miss something?
Yeah, just checked that one out this past weekend. I really enjoyed it. All those people that say civilians have no chance in a "Red Dawn" scenario against an army should watch it.
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The Werner Herzog documentary "Little Dieter Needs to Fly" tells the story of Dieter Dengler, shot down over Laos early in the Vietnam war, his capture, torture, deprivations and eventual escape. His life is also the subject of a separate dramatic movie.
Early in the documentary (about 5 minutes in, available to stream from Netflix), Dieter is showing his present-day home, where he lifts an access panel to his crawl space where he has stored buckets... "1000 pounds of rice, 1000 pounds of wheat, 300 pounds of honey, etc.".
He says "I'll probably never need this, but I sleep so much better knowing it's there.". This is a man who, emaciated at his rescue, experienced real starvation.
I saw this before becoming active in my preparations, and it very much got the wheels turning for me...
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Yeah, just checked that one out this past weekend. I really enjoyed it. All those people that say civilians have no chance in a "Red Dawn" scenario against an army should watch it.
all it takes is one victory over a basic patrol and you now have automatic weapons, explosives, food, and vehicles..... use those to get some more!
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+1 to (in no particular order)
lord of the flies
red dawn
defiance
jericho
(ya think they'll ever make a movie of lights out?)
I can't believe nobody mentioned "shaun of the dead!"
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(Probably already posted by someone else) Defiance was a great movie. It was like Red Dawn, but based on a true story, and a lot more realistic. I always wondered though why they never showed anyone trying to produce their own food. They stole and foraged, but i didn't see any crops or animals.
Did I miss something?
I rented this one the other day, it's an excellent movie.
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On July 21 09 discovery has a new show, looks interesting
http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/colony.html (http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/colony/colony.html)
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Cool.
Hopefully it is well done and addresses the long-term needs of the group but I question the decision to limit it to a factory setting. I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say they are going to bug out to the nearest industrial park when the SHTF. I’ll have to watch it and see where it goes.
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I'm looking forward to the start of "Colony" as well.
I think they picked the "industrial" setting to give the "survivors" as much as they could to work with. And, to make it easier for them to film. All of the people are contained in one little area. If they had done it out in the woods somewhere, it would have been a lot more difficult to film the whole thing I think.
Hopefully it doesn't get too caught up in the personality clashes that are bound to happen. They're already making mention of the fact that Mike(I think it is) is going to piss everyone off.
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Ok, I know this isnt in the tin foil hat brigade, but it bothers me that Homeland Security and psychologist got together to help design this show. just smells like a psy-op. although, it could just be my hat.
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Colony does look pretty interesting, I'm worried that it'll fall into the normal trappings of a reality show. At least their challenges will involve practical devices that we could learn from. Those people look like the kind of people that I'd want to be around in that kind of world.
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What did you all think of the new Battlestar Galactica series and Deadwood on HBO. Both are fairly similar in dealing with the creation of a community in order to survive. BSG is certainly post-apocalyptic, while Deadwood is pre-civilization. Both involve relevant scenarios for us.
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Roswell,
I wouldn't worry about the homeland security guy being on the show. They probably just hired him to help consult and the SHOW is throwing out the fact that he either works or has worked for DHS so it sounds all official like.
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I just got done with triple feature of The Last Man on Earth, The Omega Man and I am Legend. Each of these has their pro's and con's but in the end I am Legend is my favorite.
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I honestly hated (I mean really despised) I Am Legend. I read the story as a kid and loved it and that probably biased me quite a lot. Not sure I could watch it with an open mond.
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Anyone watched Falling Skies (http://www.tnt.tv/series/fallingskies/)?
It's been a few episodes, largely focused on getting one of the characters sons away from the influence of the alien invaders while simultaneously fighting the aliens, other survivors and trying to get supplies for the large group of people the main characters support. I kind of like the series so far but with so many people in a group I'd think they would emphasize food, water and sanitation a little more than they have.
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History channel has After Armageddon. Very good show. Lots of very realistic senerios.
Watch it on several You Tube segments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r97xoSOEjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8tHx5loswQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjDDk-vN84&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJfUbYqes0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TPWr4hmdBQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM9y0NUMKw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3x9XidaAFs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P3OH4ryJDk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVMVfriamo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEgtCx0R5kQ&feature=related
I think thats all of them. :)
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there is a british miniseries available on netfilx that was thoroughly engrossing to me called "The Survivors" as well as "Jericho" good for many many hours of entertainment, also check out "Survival School" on hulu.
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History channel has After Armageddon. Very good show. Lots of very realistic senerios.
Watch it on several You Tube segments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r97xoSOEjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8tHx5loswQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjDDk-vN84&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJfUbYqes0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TPWr4hmdBQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM9y0NUMKw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3x9XidaAFs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P3OH4ryJDk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVMVfriamo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEgtCx0R5kQ&feature=related
I think thats all of them. :)
Thanks, man. That's a solid movie. A friend of mine woke up a lot of her friends with this movie. Thanks for putting the links out there. Your links will wake up some more people. Right on.
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Sorry if it's been mentioned in this thread but i just watched a movie on Netflix streaming called "Carriers". Theme is a viral infection SHTF. It's no oscar winner but it's worth a watch. It makes sure to reinforce the tough choices you might be faced with during a survival viral outbreak situation.
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Sorry if it's been mentioned in this thread but i just watched a movie on Netflix streaming called "Carriers". Theme is a viral infection SHTF. It's no oscar winner but it's worth a watch. It makes sure to reinforce the tough choices you might be faced with during a survival viral outbreak situation.
I second the recommendation on Carriers, it's a better movie than you'd think and does make you think about family and tough choices in an outbreak.
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I'd have to say I was more influenced by books than movies. The top ones:
My Side of the Mountain
Island of the Blue Dolphins
Boxcar Children
Chronicles of Narnia
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There is a documentary on TLC tonight: "Livin' for the Apocolypse" @ 9:00 Eastern. (One hour)
Sorry. CORRECTION: that's 10:00 Eastern. 9:00 Central..............................^^^^^^
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I watched the Livin' for the Apocolypse tonight. The McClungs were on it, and Survival Doc. Peggy Layton and her husband were on there, too. Last couple was kinda funky, but trying to prepare.
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I'm more of a book person myself, but as far as getting me started it would definitely be a combination of boxcar children and the movie outbreak. My sister and I would stay up for hours discussing what we could do to survive in both scenarios.
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I watched the Livin' for the Apocolypse tonight. The McClungs were on it, and Survival Doc. Peggy Layton and her husband were on there, too. Last couple was kinda funky, but trying to prepare.
With the power of technology I just dvr'ed it. It's on again Friday night it appears, so I've plugged it to record.
Thanks for the info.
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History channel has After Armageddon. Very good show. Lots of very realistic senerios.
Watch it on several You Tube segments.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r97xoSOEjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8tHx5loswQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTjDDk-vN84&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJfUbYqes0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TPWr4hmdBQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SM9y0NUMKw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3x9XidaAFs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P3OH4ryJDk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cVMVfriamo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEgtCx0R5kQ&feature=related
I think thats all of them. :)
I'm watching this on the History Channel RIGHT NOW!
I accidentally stumbled upon it this morning while channel surfing, then I did a search here at TSP to see if anyone else already posted its existence.
VERY COOL!
(The only thing I don't like is that the kid in the dramatization is a complete moron. He annoys me with his "duh..." lack awareness of the seriousness of what's going. Even after 4 months, the kid is still so frigging clueless that their lives are in danger. He's a very poorly crafted plot device, and as a writer I have zero respect for such pathetically non-credible characters.)
It's worth pointing out that at about the 30-minute point, one of the experts who is doing a running commentary (he seems to be a security expert) mentions the need of what he calls a "bug-out bag." He also calls it by an alternate name that I've heard elsewhere -- a "GOOD Bag" which stands for "get out of Dodge." But his first preference is to call it a bug-out bag.
::ETA::
The guy is billed in this History Channels special as "Kevin Reeve, Tracking Expert and Defense Consultant." And he is a member of an outfit called on-Point Tactical
http://www.onpointtactical.com/
(Maybe a cool future guest for the podcast?)
Here's his partial bio (http://www.onpointtactical.com/company.aspx):
Owner and Lead Instructor
Kevin Reeve
Kevin Reeve is the founder and Director of onPoint Tactical LLC. Kevin has provided training to law enforcement, SAR teams, and the US military in the arts of tracking, survival, escape and evasion and urban operations for over 12 years. He has worked with many Special Ops units, training individuals and teams, as well as a host of local and federal law enforcement officers and SAR teams.
Prior to founding onPoint Tactical LLC, Kevin worked for one of the top tracking schools in America. Kevin spent 8 years as a Director at this program, and was responsible for the instructor staff there.
Prior to this, Kevin worked in Silicon Valley for 15 years, including a five year stint at Apple Computer doing organizational development and executive coaching, as well as platform training and curriculum development.
Complete Bio (http://www.onpointtactical.com/bios.aspx)
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I'm not sure if this is listed- I searched through Most of this thread looking...
The Day After (1983) American Nuclear Holocaust
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2B7sdLPMfc
I'm glad I stumbled onto this movie as I was a soldier, in Europe for 5+ years, during the cold war.
The realities of this movie exhibit how tenuous things were & how close we were to tshtf.
In retrospect I guess I missed it in 1983 because I was in boot camp ;)
Glad I saw it now especially dated to the era as it is. Little things like lines for pay phones jump out at you
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Thanks for the link. I appreciate it. ;)
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Thanks for the link. I appreciate it. ;)
You're welcome. I read where President Reagan was shown a private screening of this movie & was "deeply saddened" by it to the point that he toned down his "Evil Empire" rhetoric.... Not the NY Yankees but the Cold War Evil Empire ;)
Yes, I'm a Red Sox fan :D
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LOL! ;D
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All Is Lost (2013) - Robert Redford - IMDB - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2017038/
Available on Netflix and Amazon Prime.
This movie is quite different in that there is essentially no dialog. During the entire movie Redford spoke only a couple of times.
What struck me was how utterly unprepared he was as a sailor on a solo mid ocean voyage.
He had all the tools needed for survival yet he was unfamiliar with their use.
Though this movie has a nautical theme, the lesson one gets from this movie is to know your equipment and how to use it.
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Jericho was great !!!! And as always. Red Dawn.
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I hate to be a pest, but zombies are generally defined as a human that has returned from the dead..... The humans in the 28 movies are infected beings that exhibit extreme cases of psychotic behavior..... A drop of blood into the father's eye turned him into an infected person without him keeling over and dying first...... Infected people, NOT zombies
touche. You are right. I guess I never really thought it through that way.
..me neither.
Much bigger fish to fry
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Never saw the 28 days movies...
However, I have been recently watching the new Lost in Space series... some applications, I think.