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Title: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on November 25, 2008, 08:00:14 AM
PROBABLY against most state hunting regulations, but in a true survival situation, I always choose to be tried by 12 rather than carried by 6!

Here goes...

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Probably intended for fish, but will work on small game too.

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Not one of mine, but well done nevertheless.

Tim Suggs
Birmingham, AL. USA!
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: quietmike on November 25, 2008, 08:16:39 AM
A great way to cheat whle making lots of those traps:

http://www.survival-gear.com/yo-yo-fishingreel.htm (http://www.survival-gear.com/yo-yo-fishingreel.htm)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on November 25, 2008, 08:24:18 AM
A great way to cheat whle making lots of those traps:

http://www.survival-gear.com/yo-yo-fishingreel.htm (http://www.survival-gear.com/yo-yo-fishingreel.htm)

And they work too!  I've used these and depending on the fish on the end of the line, they work pretty darn good.  Have to be careful about your bait and baiting technique/trigger set so they do not nibble your bait away.  I had problems with the rewind mechanism on a few, but most worked out of the package just fine.  Paddle into a deep little cove, set about ten of these around your boat hanging from the tree limbs, and you'll be busy hauling the fish in if you set them right.

Tim Suggs
Birmingham, AL. USA!
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on December 04, 2008, 07:46:23 AM
found a guy from the BBC that has some pretty cool ideas. squirrel trap. basically a dead fall. but his hobo fishing lure is funny but easy to make.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvRR5MTBBQI
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Ultio1 on December 30, 2008, 12:08:28 PM
I was just out putting out some millet for the birds and I had this idea about using a mousetrap to harvest small doves and quail. a few seeds here and there and a small pile over the end of the trap. If a bird pecks at the seed on the trap the trap will definitely kill it.  I know there are better ways but in a serious pinch you might be able to score some meat without compromising your position. I mean they are cheap and light. I have a couple in my BOB. At the local dollar store you have your choice of one large rat trap or four regular size mousetraps for a buck.
I have a box trap with a spring door that works much easier but it doesn't fit in my BOB much less in my shirt pocket. Plus the victim is still alive and probably isnt going to cooperate. Getting a live bird thats in a panic out of a cage without it getting away is easier said then done. I dont think snares will work for small birds but I have no experience in that. Its just a guess.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: ColdHaven on December 30, 2008, 04:26:25 PM
Test it out and let us know!  :)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on December 30, 2008, 04:47:07 PM
Test it out and let us know!  :)
Yeah, that.

It would be a handy way to do it, that's for sure.  A mouse trap or 6 takes very little room to store.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: creuzerm on December 31, 2008, 10:11:26 PM
A +1 for a novel view of a day to day item.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: partisan15 on January 03, 2009, 07:21:32 AM
i dont see how you would make the squirrel pole, could someone please elaborate?
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: partisan15 on January 03, 2009, 07:40:23 AM
does anyone know anything about trapping in arkansas?
Im new to hunting in general and only own a BB gun (thats embarrassing) so shooting game isnt an option at the moment.

So back to the point, trapping anyone? any info is helpful.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: BigDanInTX on January 03, 2009, 07:51:10 PM
I found a great resource on YouTube.  I don't know about the legalities in your state, so you'll have to check them, but he shows how to make the trap, set the trap, even skin the game.

http://www.youtube.com/user/northernpike56 (http://www.youtube.com/user/northernpike56)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: sludgy_nixer on January 03, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
nothing state specific, but dave at wilderness outfitters archery recently posted a 4 part series on trapping

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=wildernessoutfitters&p=r

tons of other great vids too
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Debo on January 04, 2009, 06:51:10 AM
The treadle and twitch up are especially good.  The payute is a much better deadfall trigger than the figure four.  You can pre-make the trigger parts and trek with them as they don't take up much space.

The squirrel pole is just a series of snares tied around the circumference of a log and then the log leaned up against a squirrel tree.  You can catch more than one as other squirrels think they are playing.  Beware in the burbs though.  From what I have been told, the caught squirrels make LOTS of noise and could upset your touchy neighbors (squirrel poles are often if not always against the law to build).


D.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: JPH on January 08, 2009, 07:39:05 AM
Now this is a subject I would like to learn a lot about... Although I will check my local laws before practicing this art, I would like to build a knowledge base of the best ways to trap game regardless of laws, because if I ever NEED to trap game, those types of laws won't really matter.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: JPH on January 08, 2009, 07:44:37 AM
Thanks for the great info, I made a post requesting this kind of information in another thread before I found this post.  Any passive means to gather protein is a GREAT tool to have in the old toolbox.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: JPH on January 08, 2009, 07:47:10 AM
Test it out and let us know!  :)
Yeah, that.

It would be a handy way to do it, that's for sure.  A mouse trap or 6 takes very little room to store.

+10 and i will test it out myself as well.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Debo on January 08, 2009, 05:57:58 PM
Quote
Thanks for the great info, I made a post requesting this kind of information in another thread before I found this post.  Any passive means to gather protein is a GREAT tool to have in the old toolbox.

Hell yes!  It frees you up to do some of the other thousands of tasks that need to be done.


D.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Tyrannosaurus on January 14, 2009, 08:29:10 PM
Awesome diagrams!

I went dove hunting in Abasolo, Mexico last year. While driving down the barbed-wire fence lines, we saw several animal carcasses, including coyote and javelinas, that had been trapped in some crudely-fashioned snares that were tied into the barbed wire. I thought it was a shame that the animals weren't picked up by their trappers, but I could certainly understand why folks would trap them, since they are not allowed to own guns and food was scarce due to poverty. I wanted to keep some of the skulls, but I didn't want to even try to get them by US Customs.

I'm curious to how the traps were baited, and even more curious to how they got the critter to stick their head through that snare in the first place. Maybe there's something I don't understand about the way their snares worked.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on January 14, 2009, 10:43:25 PM
I'm curious to how the traps were baited, and even more curious to how they got the critter to stick their head through that snare in the first place. Maybe there's something I don't understand about the way their snares worked.
I'd bet they placed the snares in travel corridors.  Animals are like humans in the way they travel often, that is they'll take a known, easy to negotiate path as opposed to busting brush while traveling.

Well used paths are easy to spot, leaves worn down, grass pushed down, paths worn into the hard packed dirt.  There will be some sign that the animals frequently use a travel corridor or path.  Spend enough time in the woods & you'll recognize them right away.  That's one of the things we look for first when deciding where to set stands, or where we want to hunt.

Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: PaCoTx on January 26, 2009, 09:39:04 PM
I've done a little trapping growing up, but don't know much about Arkansas trapping other that talking to a guy from Arkansas once while I was hunting in CO.  There should be lots of muskrat and nutria.  A body gripping trap can take them easily.  Check out a magazine called Fur Fish and Game for hints and specifics.  You should also be able to catch raccoon, possum, and a few other furbearers.  You can get money for fur now, and the skills you learn would be useful in a survival situation for more edible game.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: bj on February 19, 2009, 05:21:46 PM
Have been trapping since I have been a kid.  Made some extra money back in the 70's trapping.  Found a good supplier for traps of all types (Duke traps, MB traps, Snares, wire pelting stretchers, and a few books.  Take a look.  I think it is a good idea to have a few of these if the SHTF!

http://mountainmantraps.com/main.htm
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: PaCoTx on February 19, 2009, 08:17:14 PM
Nice site.  +1  Brings back a lot of memories. 

Do they still make Victor and Blake & Lamb traps?
 
While on the subject, here's a good source for books on trapping.

http://www.furfishgame.com/shop_online/index.php (http://www.furfishgame.com/shop_online/index.php)

I bought the little book "The Trapper's Companion" in the 70's and still keep it at my cabin in CO, but may pick up another to carry in my BOB.

http://furfishgame.com/store/product110.html (http://furfishgame.com/store/product110.html)  It's a good source of old school trail craft.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: NickyTheHeel on February 20, 2009, 11:49:56 AM
What about trapping crayfish?  I found the website below to be pretty inspirational.  I could do that.  I guess I need to check into how many crayfish my local lakes have.

http://www.terrybullard.com/crawfishing_pictures.html
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: ColdSoul on February 23, 2009, 10:05:28 AM
I would like to recommend everyone not use the figure 4 as shown, the upright pole CAN'T be under the rock or it will stop the rock from falling to often.

So if/when your making that trap make sure the upright stick is out of the range of the falling lock. I have seen many times Les Stroud aka Survivorman have this happen to him on at least 2-3 occasions.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on February 24, 2009, 08:24:23 AM
I would like to recommend everyone not use the figure 4 as shown, the upright pole CAN'T be under the rock or it will stop the rock from falling to often.

So if/when your making that trap make sure the upright stick is out of the range of the falling lock. I have seen many times Les Stroud aka Survivorman have this happen to him on at least 2-3 occasions.

Oh definitely!  I think the picture just doesn't show the "offset" placement of the upright stick in relation to the heavy falling log.  If anything impedes the falling of the "deadfall", then you've defeated yourself, fed a furry little aminal, and go to bed hungray another night.  Good observation ColdSoul!  And WELCOME to the group!

Tim.

Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: ColdSoul on February 24, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
I would like to recommend everyone not use the figure 4 as shown, the upright pole CAN'T be under the rock or it will stop the rock from falling to often.

So if/when your making that trap make sure the upright stick is out of the range of the falling lock. I have seen many times Les Stroud aka Survivorman have this happen to him on at least 2-3 occasions.

Oh definitely!  I think the picture just doesn't show the "offset" placement of the upright stick in relation to the heavy falling log.  If anything impedes the falling of the "deadfall", then you've defeated yourself, fed a furry little aminal, and go to bed hungray another night.  Good observation ColdSoul!  And WELCOME to the group!

Tim.



No problem, thanks for the welcome :)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: sphincter on March 10, 2009, 10:05:51 PM
I used to trap crayfish(crawdads) when I was a kid....I used a minnow seine ans worked it around and under creek banks. I never ate one of the little bugs, but I caught a ton. We just pitched them at each other and turned them loose in the yard. It never crossed my mind to even fish with them until I was in high school.

Sphincter
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: homeshow on April 15, 2009, 01:55:10 PM
Nicky the heel +1 from a southern crayfish and turtle lover.  i should send you northern boys a good gumbo recipe.  do you purge them before eating? it's the best way i have found.  great now i'm hungry.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: NickyTheHeel on April 15, 2009, 02:24:41 PM
Nicky the heel +1 from a southern crayfish and turtle lover.  i should send you northern boys a good gumbo recipe.  do you purge them before eating? it's the best way i have found.  great now i'm hungry.


I'm an Italian-American and basically use them either in seafood pasta, seafood risotto or cioppino.  I learned to purge them from family I have in a place called French Settlement, Louisiana but I have never done it for my own personal use.

And on the subject of trapping them in Oregon.  I bought a crawfish trap at WalMart and I have gotten some out of a beaver pond on one edge of my dad's property (I live in an RV and spend a lot of time at his place) and in the Coquille River about 300 feet from his front door and in a wetland area behind a lady friend's house in Newport, Oregon.  Lakeside, Oregon recently had their big crawfish fest so I assume that those lakes have a lot of them.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: khristopher23 on April 15, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
CRAWFISH, IT'S CRAWFISH, not crayfish, not crawdads, but CRAWFISH.

Go to Louisiana and order crayfish, see what kind of looks you get.

Hold on, where's Sneauxball, maybe she can help me out. ;D
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: PeteG on May 13, 2009, 03:49:44 PM
Rumor has it that in a town near me, squirrel hunting has turned into setting out a line of 6 or so rat traps, baited with peanut butter. By the time the last one is set & you circle back to the first you have squirrels...

I am sure this is not legal in many places, but having a few rat traps around for an "emergency" may not be a bad idea.

~Pete
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Georgiaboy on June 07, 2009, 12:53:43 PM
In my area, that would be illegal without a trapping license. Although plenty of hunting takes place off season under the guide os Birfeeder Defense.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: LGM30 on June 07, 2009, 01:05:19 PM
Rumor has it that in a town near me, squirrel hunting has turned into setting out a line of 6 or so rat traps, baited with peanut butter. By the time the last one is set & you circle back to the first you have squirrels...

I am sure this is not legal in many places, but having a few rat traps around for an "emergency" may not be a bad idea.

~Pete
Added to my shopping list.  I'm hoping for some bait that works on Rabbits!  I bought one of those Live traps, but it really expensive, no way I'd buy 4-6 of them.

Thanks! +1 to you!
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: calamityjane on June 07, 2009, 01:27:28 PM
Rumor has it that in a town near me, squirrel hunting has turned into setting out a line of 6 or so rat traps, baited with peanut butter. By the time the last one is set & you circle back to the first you have squirrels...

I am sure this is not legal in many places, but having a few rat traps around for an "emergency" may not be a bad idea.

~Pete

I'm >----------< this close to squirrel battle too.  I will file this away in the 'line in the sand' department.   They've gotten every strawberry in the garden so far.  Grr.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Juggernaut on June 19, 2009, 08:19:56 AM
wouldn't the squirrel get away maimed from the traps and still live?
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: PeteG on June 20, 2009, 06:47:37 PM
wouldn't the squirrel get away maimed from the traps and still live?

I have not tried this one, I was just told about it by a friend from a nearby town; but in a "I gotta eat" situation it may be worth trying.

~Pete
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: RonH2K on June 20, 2009, 07:43:18 PM
wouldn't the squirrel get away maimed from the traps and still live?

If it's really a rat trap, I don't think they'll get away maimed.  In fact, I've seen a full sized red-squirrel killed by a mouse trap.  Rat traps are pretty big and nasty.

Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on June 21, 2009, 09:25:37 AM
I carry a roll of small wire (that's actually for making your own Christmas ornament hooks) in my outside gear.  I use it for making squirrel traps, but a similarly small type wire could be used for anchoring the rat traps in place to keep a wounded squirrel from dragging the trap off.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on June 28, 2009, 09:45:04 PM
CRAWFISH, IT'S CRAWFISH, not crayfish, not crawdads, but CRAWFISH.

Go to Louisiana and order crayfish, see what kind of looks you get.

Hold on, where's Sneauxball, maybe she can help me out. ;D

I think she'd tell they ain't neither, they're "mudbugs".  Mike Rowe on The Discovery Chanel's "Dirtiest Jobs" did an episode where he went out in the swamps with a Louisianian crawfish hunter, Mike pulled the Jon boat through the shallows while the other guy sat in the boat high and dry, just shaking his head.

Tim.

Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: NickyTheHeel on June 29, 2009, 02:07:09 AM
I say Louisiana with five syllables, too.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on June 29, 2009, 07:33:27 AM
I say Louisiana with five syllables, too.

that's a common mistake. it has 4. pronounced: Lue - zee- anna.

it's only crawdad's for kids.

and you gotta suck the heads!
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on June 30, 2009, 06:32:01 PM
and you gotta suck the heads!

I LOVE those T-shirts!  BITE THE TAIL and SUCK THE HEADS!  You can instantly tell who's been to Nawlens (New Orleans for Nicky... It's OK Nicky, I can't say Prosciutto).

Tim.

Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: khristopher23 on July 11, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
I lived down there for several years, and never did "suck the heads" (go ahead Nicky, I know, opened myself wide up on that one  ;D). Our landlord had several crawfish boils, and I just couldn't get used to seeing those little black eyeballs getting sucked down with everything else. I always preferred fried or etouffee (probably my favorite meal of all times). Can't beat Mulate's 1/2 fried, 1/2 etouffee platter.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: JeanetteW on July 12, 2009, 11:31:29 AM
I have several live traps that I keep on hand to catch feral cats and other bad actors. I know from experience that I can trap several critters a day in these - more than sufficient - so that's as far as I'll go.

Still, trapping seems to work better than hunting, so I'm prepared to trap those varmints and put them to good use!
 --
 Jeanette
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: wcff3431 on September 10, 2009, 07:05:48 PM
i like the diy live traps i have made several of these http://mdc.mo.gov/nathis/woodwork/ww10/ (http://mdc.mo.gov/nathis/woodwork/ww10/) one thing don't use new lumber. let it lay out and weather for 3 or 4 weeks first.



oh yeah I'm sorry if offend anyone but bait      urine
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: P_Coltrane on September 10, 2009, 07:16:56 PM
  Check out a magazine called Fur Fish and Game for hints and specifics. 

FF&G is great. Besides the specifics, it gives current market prices and the classifieds aren't bad either.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: thefishingangler on September 12, 2009, 12:04:45 PM
Good day all and thanks for reading this.

I live in Southern Ontario (close to Toronto) and have never hunted or trapped. I used to shoot a recurve bow in and got quite proficient at it but, haven't picked it up for about 15 years.

Through listening to Jack I'm thinking that hunting and snaring is probably a good thing to have but, am unsure on where to start. I've seen some of the videos on snaring, hunting and cleaning and am interested in trying things but, my wife doesn't come from this type of background and is a bit adverse in going to do these things. I think that she might be interested in some archery and we could maybe go from there but, being this close to the city, ranges are few and far between. They usually ask for you to join the club as well before you can shoot. I think that this coupled with having to make the purchase of a bow will make the "hey let's try this" comment not go very far with her.

I thought about doing a survival course with here but, we're looking about $500 CAD per person for 2 weekends.

Am I going about this the wrong way?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: smittymojoe on September 12, 2009, 01:52:27 PM
Hello thefishingangler..... welcome to the forums!
One idea I have is this. Do you have any friends or family that are into hunting or trapping? That might be a good way to learn some of the ins and outs.
I have an Uncle that got me into hunting. Took me deer hunting when I was about 12 and got me hooked on it. I'm sure some others will chime in with some other advice.

smitty
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: ChiefCornerstone on September 12, 2009, 07:10:12 PM
Fish  Try getting the bows that they shoot at the YMCA or at schools.. You can shoot in your backyard and not that powerful.. The thing they will teach your wife is form the most important thing in bow huntin,..  Start with the block foam targets, cheap and you can shoot anything at them..  Then if she is into it you start to get the ones that look like animals..  See my point, Get her into shootin at things that look like animals..  Also with the YMCA bows you can even go to vacant lots, field , or anyplace large enough..I also think you won't get any flack from any one because, most people shot these back in school.. Enjoy.. 
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: thefishingangler on September 12, 2009, 10:09:28 PM
Thanks for your replies. Nobody in my family hunts unfortunately. My wife and I do fish however. Are there any ranges or stores in my vicinity (NY, PA or OH) that rent bows to try that anyone knows of?
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Vinny T. Firefly on September 28, 2009, 01:37:24 AM
Have you tried the region 2 board? It includes NY and PA. Maybe you could hook up with someone and they could help set you up.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: thefishingangler on September 28, 2009, 03:33:15 PM
That's a great idea (unfortunately not one I thought of). I will try this.

Thanks Vinny
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Steve Cover on February 01, 2010, 02:14:39 AM
(http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t175/SteveCover/Shooting/Hunting/BearTrap.jpg)

He was tough to get out of the trap!!!

Thought I'd lighten things up a bit.....

Steve
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: AdamCG on February 03, 2010, 12:19:24 PM
I’m sorry if this is a re-post. 

Maybe it’s because I’m a product of the WV public, school system and I still throw rocks at my shadow but I thought this was a very clever idea for trapping small game. 

The Small Common Man Trapping Kit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNpiyq02ccQ#normal)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Roswell on November 01, 2010, 06:30:33 PM
I think there are a lot of threads that mention trapping and snaring, but I don't think any are dedicated to it.  So, I started this thread strictly on animal traps and snares, specifically on how to build your own. However, discussion of mechanical traps bought from a store are ok too.  I'll kick it off with a couple diagrams, videos and links.

(http://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/images/editors/ww10.jpg)
Live rabbit trap (http://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/how/woodworking/how-build-rabbit-live-trap-i)
(http://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/images/editors/ww11.jpg)
Live rabbit trap 2 (http://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/how/woodworking/how-build-rabbit-live-trap-ii)


This site has a lot of really good ones (http://www.the-ultralight-site.com/survival-food-3.html)
(http://www.the-ultralight-site.com/fig8-8.gif)
Squirrel Pole

(http://www.the-ultralight-site.com/fig8-9.gif)
Bird pole

(http://www.the-ultralight-site.com/fig8-12.gif)
Figure 4 deadfall

(http://www.the-ultralight-site.com/fig8-13.gif)
Paiute deadfall


Other Snares and traps

http://www.thefarm.org/charities/i4at/surv/traps.htm (http://www.thefarm.org/charities/i4at/surv/traps.htm)
http://www.m4040.com/Survival/Skills/Hunting%20and%20Snaring/Hunting%20and%20Snaring.htm (http://www.m4040.com/Survival/Skills/Hunting%20and%20Snaring/Hunting%20and%20Snaring.htm)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNpiyq02ccQ&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNpiyq02ccQ&feature=player_embedded#)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: BatonRouge Bill on November 01, 2010, 08:54:37 PM
I think there are a lot of threads that mention trapping and snaring, but I don't think any are dedicated to it.  So, I started this thread strictly on animal traps and snares, specifically on how to build your own. However, discussion of mechanical traps bought from a store are ok too.  I'll kick it off with a couple diagrams, videos and links.
(http://mdc.mo.gov/sites/default/files/images/editors/ww10.jpg)
Live rabbit trap (http://mdc.mo.gov/discover-nature/how/woodworking/how-build-rabbit-live-trap-i)
I used these type rabbit box traps as a teen and they are very effective. More so after a rabbit has been previously caught in it and left rabbit scent, poop and urine in it. Old scrap wood works better than new pine and locate it on a rabbit trail next to a stump, log or ant hill where they make poop marker piles. Put some bunny berries on and in the box to help get the first one caught. Also if you make several of these let your  first caught wild rabbit scent the other boxes to get them started. Food bait usually will only catch a possum and that preditor smell will ruin the box. Also try not to step in the rabbit trail, standing just off to the side usually doesn't hurt.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: 4bull on November 01, 2010, 11:47:49 PM
i made these to, an old timer showed me how to put a few small nails in the door . shure drives them in the back of the box.
hi im bull and im a trap aholic, think about it year round , fish ,fur,or just for fun.
snares are the all around food producers,  i even put wire twists on the doors of my wire cage traps ,and cut them to a point
nothing to hert them just to get them to go right in.
i even had a toy trap with me in the gulf ,yep trapen scorpins had to do something.made snare to cach cangaroo rats.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: PAGUY on November 02, 2010, 05:03:10 AM
Sitting here watching this video and my son comes over to me and says "daddy can we try to make some of these?".   Il love my son so much.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Rustler3 on March 21, 2011, 11:19:57 PM
I've seen opossums in our So Cal neighborhood and would love to trap one in something like this.  I'm just wondering what you might use that would attract one of those but not our (or neighbor) cats.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Alpha Mike on March 21, 2011, 11:53:38 PM
In SoCal, it's best to go with a live capture trap.  Accidentally killing a neighbor cat would be bad.  Opossums around here eat any food that's left out so pretty much anything can be used as bait.
Good hunting from South OC.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Rustler3 on March 22, 2011, 01:55:42 AM
Yeah, I don't think I would be very happy to find mine in a trap in the morning either.   Didn't have opossums in my area growing up.  I know they are a scavenger but anything that might draw them in a little better?
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Roswell on March 22, 2011, 07:36:39 AM
Here you go... "How to attract a possum" (http://www.ehow.com/how_8061579_attract-possum-yard.html)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: 4bull on March 24, 2011, 10:43:08 PM
PB and J, fruit cats dont eat fruit. or anything you have will work.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: brokensurvivor on April 09, 2011, 12:44:21 AM
Does anybody have a good set of preparation directions for very small game such as chipmunks, small birds, ground squirrel. The best would be from kill to plate but anything would help. Thanks
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TexDaddy on April 09, 2011, 12:52:12 AM
Does anybody have a good set of preparation directions for very small game such as chipmunks, small birds, ground squirrel. The best would be from kill to plate but anything would help. Thanks

check the video on this thread, for the skinning and cleaning part at least.

http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=24879.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=24879.0)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Roswell on May 25, 2011, 12:22:22 PM
more pics of snares and traps
http://www.eseeknives.com/traps.htm (http://www.eseeknives.com/traps.htm)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Roswell on May 25, 2011, 12:35:53 PM
BTW, I just merged a lot of trapping related topics into this thread. So, you may want to start at the beginning of the thread to take advantage of all the knowledge.  ;)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Huntinbull on June 15, 2011, 07:21:23 PM
Couple of points to add and a question or two.

I have been a Hunter Ed and Trapper Ed instructor here in Ohio for several years as well as having hunted and trapped for many years.

Some of the pointers:

One question I have is, When making improvised snares, how do you make the snare loop, the one that cinches on the running loop wire. Is it a figure eight loop? a basic two half hitches type loop? I am used to using the washer type slider. I could make a bunch of rabbit weight snares and put them in the bag (and have) but I want to know how to improvise should i get caught without my bag.

Next question is, do you use or have you used #3 or #4 picture hanging wire? Have heard it works well (Canterbury recommends it in his vids), but have never tried it.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: 4bull on December 18, 2011, 01:36:59 PM
This fall i made a right angle shelf that i tie down strapped to the side of my trees.
And put a 55 conibar set on nails ,and put a screw through it from the bottom to set a small
piece of corn on the cob on it. If that didn't do it i put sunflowers seeds under the trap.
400 tomato's disappeared out of my garden in 3 days. they wiped me out damn squirrels.
I averaged 3 a day , skinned and cleaned.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Cedar on December 18, 2011, 07:53:04 PM
Questions!

#1. Have you guys tested these out? Do you practice making them often even if you don't use them?

#2. What is your average catch rate? I had friends who ran fur traplines up north in the Yukon and upper BC and they ran 150 mile ones. They did not feed themselves from the trapline, but did feed beaver to the sleddogs at times when they caught them.

I also read that it takes 100 traps such as these to feed EACH person full time.

3. What tools do you carry with you in your BOB for making them?

Cedar
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: cheryl1 on December 09, 2012, 10:54:22 AM
One pair of beaver slippers coming up!
(http://i1166.photobucket.com/albums/q611/cherylrussell1/03727B2B-F612-4DD2-9342-D4C506146FCA-6571-0000097FCFFA174B.jpg)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: SteveandTracyinKY on December 09, 2012, 05:21:04 PM
I am working on getting into trapping. The problem I have right now is somewhere to clean the animals. We still live in an apartment in the city, so I would have to have a set up where I had everything bagged and ready for the freezer before I got back home. I have done the squirrel pole thing, and that was awesome. I had more than one squirrel per pole on more than one occasion. Dumb little guys ran right past their little hanging friends and right into the snares.

Not sure if you guys count this as trapping, but we are going to be running lines for catfish and turtle this year too. I got to watch a master turtle guy at work, and it was amazing.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Roswell on February 03, 2013, 02:48:24 PM
One question I have is, When making improvised snares, how do you make the snare loop, the one that cinches on the running loop wire. Is it a figure eight loop? a basic two half hitches type loop? I am used to using the washer type slider. I could make a bunch of rabbit weight snares and put them in the bag (and have) but I want to know how to improvise should i get caught without my bag.

Next question is, do you use or have you used #3 or #4 picture hanging wire? Have heard it works well (Canterbury recommends it in his vids), but have never tried it.

I have used picture wire and it worked well. Just make sure it is secured tightly to something. I don't do this all the time, but when I have I used them I did the two half hitch knot loop.

Questions!

#1. Have you guys tested these out? Do you practice making them often even if you don't use them?

#2. What is your average catch rate? I had friends who ran fur traplines up north in the Yukon and upper BC and they ran 150 mile ones. They did not feed themselves from the trapline, but did feed beaver to the sleddogs at times when they caught them.

I also read that it takes 100 traps such as these to feed EACH person full time.

3. What tools do you carry with you in your BOB for making them?

Cedar

1) As often as I can, but not often enough.  Most of my trapping experience comes from garden pests such as squirrels, rats, mice, chipmunks, rabbits and possums. You can practice one or two snares and have that down pat, but to master a figure 4 it will take a LOT of practice

2) I have never tried to feed myself just through trapping, but yes I'd imagine many would be needed.  The cool thing about traps though is they are "set and forget". So, you can set up 5 or 10 and let them do their thing while you are somewhere else picking berries, fishing or something like that. Make sure to set up near game trails or near their homes(but not right outside as they will be wary)

3) As far as tools, I carry a couple knives, a multi-tool with a wire-cutter on it, picture hanging wire, paracord as well as some rat traps. Specifically, I use the Victor Power Kill Rat Trap (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AH3DNS/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B001AH3DNS&linkCode=as2&tag=thesurpodfor-20). It is sturdier than some of the cheap wooden ones, has a stronger spring than most, not likely to rust, sets very easily and also has a convenient cup that keeps the bait from falling out.

Also, while not in my BOB, I do sometimes use this Catch and Release Live Animal Trap (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058SXT98/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B0058SXT98&linkCode=as2&tag=thesurpodfor-20). It can be tricky to set, but it has worked for me more than once. My favorite part about it is that it can be folded up pretty flat for easy storage. It also allows one to delay killing an animal for when you need it or to release it, which can be important if you trap the neighbor's cat, lol.
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on March 13, 2013, 03:48:48 PM
I have used picture wire and it worked well. Just make sure it is secured tightly to something. I don't do this all the time, but when I have I used them I did the two half hitch knot loop.

Brother Roswell...  How ya doing?  I used USAF "Safety wire" that they used on the planes for keeping the nuts and bolts from falling off back when I was at Tinker AFB, OK.  We had a base "FamCamp, complete with a small lake.  We had acres and acres of old wooden warehouses that basically were just a roof, a back wall and two ends and the grass grew very fast out tere.  1000's of rabbits and the base lake was plagued with Beavers.  Rabbits were no problem for the snare, but taking a beaver, a lot harder.  "Doubling" everything finally did the trick for the beavers, most of the time. 

Tim.

Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: SteveandTracyinKY on March 18, 2013, 12:58:25 PM
I used USAF "Safety wire" that they used on the planes for keeping the nuts and bolts from falling off back when I was at Tinker AFB, OK. 

Has nothing to do with trapping, but after reading that I am curious how they used wire to keep the nuts and bolts from falling off?
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: The Meat Trapper on April 28, 2013, 01:47:04 PM
I am working on getting into trapping. The problem I have right now is somewhere to clean the animals. We still live in an apartment in the city, so I would have to have a set up where I had everything bagged and ready for the freezer before I got back home.

Don't let that stop you! Just skin and quarter your catch in the field before heading home. Here's a video of how I quarter up beaver on the tailgate of my truck in the field. The video is shaky because I was wearing a camera on the brim of my cap to free up my hands. If you use the 'gutless' method of quartering up larger animals you can take the four leg quarters and the backstraps out fairly quickly.

http://youtu.be/AnMyvl3Ptwo (http://youtu.be/AnMyvl3Ptwo)
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on April 29, 2013, 12:08:58 AM
Has nothing to do with trapping, but after reading that I am curious how they used wire to keep the nuts and bolts from falling off?

SteveandTracy, the military uses "safetywire" to hold any "critical" fastener i place to keep it from coming loose.  There's even a special tool for twisting the wire called "safetywire pliars", think lpowbuck visegrip pliars with a "yankee drill" spinner buit into it.  I know it might sound like I'm blowing smoke up your pipe, but I'm not.  The nuts and bolt heads have small hole drilled across one of the "edeges" and the dafetywire goes thru the hole, to the next, and the next, etc.  It can be a ver elaborate, labor intensive effort and the results can be both funtional as well as "artistic" as well.  It's been a while since I tried to post a picture here, so you're gonna have to look it up on your own.  Let me see if I can post a link...
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: TimSuggs on April 29, 2013, 12:15:17 AM
Has nothing to do with trapping, but after reading that I am curious how they used wire to keep the nuts and bolts from falling off?

See if this helps...  http://www.mgcars.org.uk/imgytr/safetywire.shtml
Title: Re: Animal Trapping and Snaring
Post by: Roswell on May 20, 2013, 12:39:52 PM
Brother Roswell...  How ya doing? 

Sorry for the late reply.  I'm doing good. Hope you are as well. i won't derail this thread further except to see we need to get M&G together some time soon.