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Survivalism & Self Sufficiency Topics => Medical Needs and First Aid => Topic started by: Greekman on April 02, 2020, 03:13:57 AM

Title: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: Greekman on April 02, 2020, 03:13:57 AM
So...the Covid-19 crisis caught me offguard.
Though I had heard about it, i was too slow to get me a pulse oxymeter.
That becoming a lesson to learn, what Medical Instruments should have in reserve?

i.e.
- Suturing Kit
- pulse Oxymeter
- Glucose Meter (and how many strips? not for daily use but for an emergency)
- Bag Valve Respirator
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: fritz_monroe on April 02, 2020, 10:02:56 AM
Good thread.  I'm going to suggest some things that I'm missing (or not) that are NOT instruments.

Nitrile gloves
N95 masks
Hand sanitizer
alcohol
glycerin
aloe vera gel
hydrogen peroxide
antimicrobial essential oil
spray bottle
plastic flask (hand sanitizer bottle)
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: theBINKYhunter on April 02, 2020, 12:16:12 PM
Yeah this made me realize that our medical preps were non-existent. We've got the very basics but once I'm able to get my hand on more masks and sanitizer we will be keeping a steady supply of those in the house.

We're actually good on rubbing alcohol and gloves as I use those for my painting and had reupped my supplies in early Feb.
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: FreeLancer on April 02, 2020, 04:44:20 PM
Looking at this current emergency as a guide, where many people will need to shelter in place and avoid intersecting with the medical system until they have objectively reached the point where they require invasive supportive care, it’s imperative that every family be able monitor and record a sick patient’s vital signs.


Temperature - requires thermometer, can use industrial instruments like thermocouple/multimeter or infrared gun.

Blood Pressure - requires a cuff, the automatic kind don’t require training or a stethoscope.

Pulse Rate - requires counting pulse for one minute, also typically provided on automatic BP and Pulse Ox devices.

Respiratory Rate - requires counting breaths for one minute.

Oxygen Saturation - requires measuring how much of the blood’s oxygen carrying capacity is being utilized.


Obtaining this data and writing it down several times a day provides a lot of useful information on how a patient is managing the infection over time.

If you don’t have all this equipment you can still measure pulse and respirations with a watch and subjectively assess how hot they feel to the touch. Bluish lips and fingernails indicate critically low O2 sats.  Lightheadedness when sitting or standing indicates low BP.
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: Greekman on April 02, 2020, 11:51:47 PM
indeed I forgot the Blood Pressure Cuff

what i would like to know from people that are using the Glucose Meters.
- Are 50 tests strips (which often come with the meters) a good amount? For emergency use. i.e. your daily used meter is out of commission, or while a lockdown/SHTF ones has to start measuring bolld glucose.
- Do test strips expire?
- Do you need a lancet for each test strip? (i think not, but it is for sanitation reasons)
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: LvsChant on April 03, 2020, 06:26:11 PM
@Greekman: The glucose meter test strips have a fairly short shelf life, if I recall correctly. The lancet should only be used by one person and does not need to be replaced each time.

We are regretting not purchasing an IR thermometer when we bought the oximeter. They are difficult to get and very expensive now...
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: Greekman on April 04, 2020, 12:01:49 AM
Do test strips are the same between brands?

I guess any IR meter will do, there are pocket ones in the craftstores for a few bucks. Though I doubt this method is good for taking ones temperature. If it does i would use a multi meter that measures temperature :D :D :D

Do get a small IR meter..it is life saving in the kitchen too. (I measure oven temp and diluted bread starter temp)
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: LvsChant on April 04, 2020, 09:47:27 AM
The test strips are brand-specific. You must buy the test strips for your glucose meter.

We have regular thermometers that work fine... and I have other cooking thermometers, so it just wasn't ever a priority since we are generally disgustingly healthy and almost never sick... Once we get on the other side of this (assuming we do!), I'll get one or two for the medical supplies...
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: Greekman on April 04, 2020, 10:09:16 AM
I just remember that sometime ago a Greek specialist suggest Peak Flow Meter as a diagnostic method of decreased lung function by COVID
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: theBINKYhunter on April 06, 2020, 07:26:51 AM
That's a great list FreeLancer. I guess I didn't think to much about those because we've always had those items in my house given my wife's career.
Title: Re: Medical Instruments Stock for preppers?
Post by: FreeLancer on April 06, 2020, 07:43:15 AM
Vital signs really are vital.