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Re: Food prices increasing, possible shortages (merged topics)
« Reply #720 on: April 04, 2014, 07:49:13 PM »
Wheat Fields See Worst Damage in 5 Years
With drought already sapping soil moisture across the Great Plains, the biggest growing region, a polar vortex in early 2014 draped fields in a deep freeze, killing more plants than normal. Since crops began going dormant in November, conditions deteriorated by the most in five years.

http://www.agweb.com/article/wheat_fields_see_worst_damage_in_5_years_BLMG/

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Re: Food prices increasing, possible shortages (merged topics)
« Reply #721 on: April 08, 2014, 08:29:29 PM »
US wheat deteriotates, amid corn sowings fears too
http://www.agrimoney.com/news/us-wheat-deteriotates-amid-corn-sowings-fears-too--6938.html

The condition of US winter wheat deteriorated further, reports from major growing states revealed, as investors await a delayed first national rating of 2014, with early data showing a slow start to corn sowings too.

In Kansas, the top US wheat-growing state, of which 99% is in drought, the proportion of the crop rated "good" or "excellent" fell by three points to 32% in the week to Sunday.

In Oklahoma, the proportion of the crop rated "good" or "excellent" dropped by two points to 15% in the week to Sunday, affected by drought which has spread to 95% of the state, the US Department of Agriculture said.

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« Reply #722 on: April 09, 2014, 03:54:04 AM »
In Oklahoma, the proportion of the crop rated "good" or "excellent" dropped by two points to 15% in the week to Sunday, affected by drought which has spread to 95% of the state, the US Department of Agriculture said.

Got a sprinkle of rain the day before yesterday, but nothing to dance about.  We're well below normal.

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« Reply #723 on: April 15, 2014, 12:53:23 PM »
I could have told them how it was going up when i bought a 1 pound bundle of asparagus for 4.99 a pound at Kroger just a week ago.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/04/15/attention-shoppers-fruit-and-vegetable-prices-rising/?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsFifth

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« Reply #724 on: April 15, 2014, 04:42:35 PM »
I could have told them how it was going up when i bought a 1 pound bundle of asparagus for 4.99 a pound at Kroger just a week ago.

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/04/15/attention-shoppers-fruit-and-vegetable-prices-rising/?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsFifth


This is telling:   
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“We could be looking at future,” he said, “where California is no longer bread basket for the country.” 

Lots of opportunity for those willing to plant gardens in place of their lawns again. And, lots of opportunity for permaculturists developing markets for vegetables and fruits in their own communities be it through fostering a relationship with the local grocery store, a CSA, farmer's market or other avenues.

For those who will not or cannot do anything other than buy produce at the local grocery store, it is going to continue to cost more to eat healthy foods.  That is, until the backyard growers, permaculturists, homesteaders, and small fruit/veggie farmers, can create abundance.

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« Reply #725 on: April 15, 2014, 05:00:21 PM »
That is, until the backyard growers, permaculturists, homesteaders, and small fruit/veggie farmers, can create abundance.

That is why I am putting in a 2-3 acre garden on speculation this year.. and the greenhouses.

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« Reply #726 on: April 27, 2014, 01:25:10 PM »
Pig virus (PEDv) continues to spread.  More than 10% of the US pig population has been lost in less than a year. Producers whose facilities have been hit are devastated.

http://news.yahoo.com/killer-virus-spreads-unchecked-u-hog-belt-pushing-180045876--finance.html;_ylt=AwrTWfwiSF1TLkcA_ArQtDMD

I think the small scale homesteader with livestock needs to seriously consider biosecurity measures on his/her own farmstead.

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« Reply #727 on: April 27, 2014, 01:58:53 PM »
I think the small scale homesteader with livestock needs to seriously consider biosecurity measures on his/her own farmstead.

This is why I have no longer been showing animals. Why I did not go into that lady's goose yards yesterday after she invited me in. Why I step in bleach water if I am back from someone else's farm.. why I don't bring in live birds and hatch here only. Why I get rid of my whole flock/s to a friend if I move from one farm to another and get eggs from my friend later to hatch out.

Even with my knowledge and doing what I knew to do for worming and prevention, we lost 19 goats to Barberpole worm. Which Barberpole worm is now immune to every chemical wormer there is, from people overworming/worming incorrectly. And the organic methods we tried also did not work.

Develop disease resistant animals. Cull heavily anything which even looks like it might be sick. QUARENTINE! I know these rules worked well for me for 40 years until this last year, when we brought in new animals from various sources starting all over again.

Like right now, I would not go to anyone place who has swine and I would avoid the swine barn at a livestock show.

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« Reply #728 on: April 28, 2014, 09:50:18 AM »
So doing some research because CNS told me to "dig deeper". I found this.

It is from the USDA on what food costs at different demographics were. I was blown away that in 2000 for a family of 4 (closest I could get to my family) was $561 in May 2000 to  $827 in 2013. That is a 32% increase. 

http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/usdafoodcost-home.htm

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« Reply #729 on: April 28, 2014, 09:55:35 AM »
So doing some research because CNS told me to "dig deeper". I found this.
It is from the USDA on what food costs at different demographics were. I was blown away that in 2000 for a family of 4 (closest I could get to my family) was $561 in May 2000 to  $827 in 2013. That is a 32% increase. 

Crazy hey?

And sometimes don't you wish you had not learned to dig and half wish you could stick your head back under the rug?

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« Reply #730 on: April 28, 2014, 10:09:11 AM »
Here is an article about Fabian Socialist Kate Humble who believes people do not appreciate food enough. Since people are wasteful, prices should skyrocket to compensate.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/apr/17/kate-humble-value-food-not-expensive-enough

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« Reply #731 on: April 28, 2014, 10:17:12 AM »
Crazy hey?

And sometimes don't you wish you had not learned to dig and half wish you could stick your head back under the rug?

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"Crazy hey", are you channeling your time in Canada??

Absolutely not. I have learned so much more now. I am banned from watching news on TV at home because I yell about the inaccuracies and bias opinions. When they put out "news" it is stuff I have learned about a days to weeks before.

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« Reply #732 on: April 28, 2014, 04:14:17 PM »
...............
Like right now, I would not go to anyone place who has swine and I would avoid the swine barn at a livestock show.

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You bring up a good point about livestock show.  Summer is coming and state fairs could be a really bad place for cross-contamination to occur.  I have to wonder if bio-security will be steppped up at state fairs across the country.

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« Reply #733 on: April 28, 2014, 04:32:29 PM »
Luckily, the animals at fair, at least here in CA, are all animals owned by children, 4H and independents. Not that they couldnt have disease, but they are generally back yard bred and not from large herd or farms, so actually pretty isolated until they get to the fair. I think we are getting these disease problems from the large factory farms with the horrible CAFO operations. These fair animals are getting handled to be trained for the fair, and sickness would be noticed as the kids work with them a few times a day. They are very well fed, exercised and cared for.

No animals are let into the fair without being examined by a vetrinarian. Even the chickens. ( we had a rooster turned away for lice year before last, and I thought I had checked him out thoroughly...) Then, the pens are cleaned twice a day, and all walk ways are swept a few times a day, so while ti is possible, it is unlikley to bring anything home by walking thru the livestock barns. If you pet an animal, can happen, but you cant pet the pigs, just the goats realy are petted alot at ours. ANd there are handwashing stations at both ends of all livestock barns, and I remind parents to have their kids wash hands if they have petted ours.

I sure hope they dont require more  --- any more hoops to jump thru and we might throw in the towel.

Often, tho, just the stress of being at fair all week means that -- at least for the goats -- they get sniffles and the change to our local fair water gives a few of the youngest goats/pigs diarea each fair, but they get over that.

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Re: Food prices increasing, possible shortages (merged topics)
« Reply #734 on: April 28, 2014, 04:32:49 PM »
So doing some research because CNS told me to "dig deeper". I found this.

It is from the USDA on what food costs at different demographics were. I was blown away that in 2000 for a family of 4 (closest I could get to my family) was $561 in May 2000 to  $827 in 2013. That is a 32% increase.
 
Certainly not what you would want to see, but over 13 years that comes out to about 2.5% annual inflation on food, right?  If so I can live with that.  My concern is that going forward it will be much higher. 
 
If past performance was an indicator of future performance, I wouldn't be concerned...

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« Reply #735 on: April 28, 2014, 05:36:45 PM »
Here is an article about Fabian Socialist Kate Humble who believes people do not appreciate food enough. Since people are wasteful, prices should skyrocket to compensate.

I believe it is true that people do not appreciate food enough. But to make food prices skyrocket?

Kate rents a farm from the government, who she has someone else tenant for her...
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/environment-and-planning/land-and-property/farming-in-cornwall/applying-for-a-county-farm/
Kate gets government grants to put in her aquaponic system and other government money to put in other projects
Kate has a Victorian house, she says,"Three years on, my home is lovely, but it took workmen 18 months to put right."
Kate has her own TV show and makes $$$
Kate has an assistant to assist her...
Kate has an award winning TV director husband Ludo Graham, who makes $$$, at least $98,930 a year.
Kate also doesn't do her TV series shows for a mere pittance either...

So she can afford stupidly expensive food that many cannot...

Does she also do good in the world with her wildlife foundation and TV series.. probably, but she may also be out of touch how the 'other 3/4's' live from meal to meal.

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« Reply #736 on: April 28, 2014, 08:57:56 PM »
I believe it is true that people do not appreciate food enough. But to make food prices skyrocket?

Kate rents a farm from the government, who she has someone else tenant for her...
http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/environment-and-planning/land-and-property/farming-in-cornwall/applying-for-a-county-farm/
Kate gets government grants to put in her aquaponic system and other government money to put in other projects
Kate has a Victorian house, she says,"Three years on, my home is lovely, but it took workmen 18 months to put right."
Kate has her own TV show and makes $$$
Kate has an assistant to assist her...
Kate has an award winning TV director husband Ludo Graham, who makes $$$, at least $98,930 a year.
Kate also doesn't do her TV series shows for a mere pittance either...

So she can afford stupidly expensive food that many cannot...

Does she also do good in the world with her wildlife foundation and TV series.. probably, but she may also be out of touch how the 'other 3/4's' live from meal to meal.

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I wouldn't call Kate a Middle Class B like she says people may accuse to herself of being in the Guardian article..I would call her a straight up Elitist Upper Class B.

Kate Humble what an ironic name...

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« Reply #737 on: April 28, 2014, 10:01:19 PM »
Many of us would agree that people don't appreciate food enough, but it's not my problem.
If people don't want to appreciate their food, so be it.
That drives progressives crazy because they NEED to control what they have no control over.

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« Reply #739 on: April 29, 2014, 05:20:15 PM »
I just saw Chipotle is raising their meat dish prices due to the state of the US beef herd

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« Reply #740 on: April 29, 2014, 07:52:05 PM »
They can sugar coat the stats all they want.
My wife tracks the cost of food, we have 6 kids.
Up35-50% in the last 3 years depending on the item.
Some are up 20% in the last 3 months.
We doubled the size of our garden last year to use and put away ever more.


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« Reply #741 on: May 01, 2014, 04:15:55 AM »

Gmail inbox is getting more and more frequent Google news updates, with search keywords "rising food prices".


Could California's Drought Last 200 Years?
Clues from the past suggest the ocean's temperature may be a driver.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/02/140213-california-drought-record-agriculture-pdo-climate/

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« Reply #742 on: May 01, 2014, 05:50:39 AM »
They can sugar coat the stats all they want.
My wife tracks the cost of food, we have 6 kids.
Up35-50% in the last 3 years depending on the item.
Some are up 20% in the last 3 months.
We doubled the size of our garden last year to use and put away ever more.

^this. Even our non prepper friends are watching prices and stocking up on sales.

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« Reply #743 on: May 12, 2014, 06:40:14 PM »
Food News from New Zealand --

Beef prices are up to their highest levels, rising 3.1 per cent in April, though chicken and lamb prices fell by a similar percentage in the month. Overall, food prices rose 0.6 per cent in April and are now up 1.5 per cent from a year ago, according to Statistics NZ figures out today.  Grocery food prices rose 1 per cent, influenced by rises across the subgroup including milk, cheese, and eggs (up 1.4 per cent), bread and cereals (up 1 per cent), and sweets nuts, and snacks, also up 1 per cent. Meat, poultry, and fish prices rose 0.9 per cent. Beef was up 3.1 per cent to their highest level.  Fruit and vegetable prices (up 0.4 per cent) also rose in April. Seasonally higher prices for tomatoes and strawberries were partly countered by seasonally lower prices for kiwifruit.  For the year to April, food prices were up 1.5 per cent. The restaurant meals and ready-to-eat food subgroup (up 2.2 per cent) had the largest impact for the year. Ready-to-eat food was up 2.4 per cent and restaurant meals up 1.5 per cent. Prices were up for milk, cheese, and eggs (up 6.7 per cent), with both fresh milk and cheese up almost 10 per cent in the year.

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« Reply #744 on: May 12, 2014, 06:52:54 PM »
Behind the cornucopia of higher food prices
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101589514



Food Prices on the Rise (article April 21, 2014)
10. Grapefruit (disease)
4-yr. change: +22%
1-yr. change: +6%
Current price: $1.02 per lb.

9. Chicken
4-yr. change: +22%
1-yr. change: +5%
Current price: $1.54 per lb.

8. Turkey
4-yr. change: +24%
1-yr. change: +9%
Current price: $1.73 per lb.

7. Wine
4-yr. change: +25%
1-yr. change: +8%
Current price: $10.75 per liter

6. Margarine
4-yr. change: +30%
1-yr. change: -1%
Current price: $2.11 per lb.

5. Peanut Butter
4-yr. change: +30%
1-yr. change: -2%
Current price: $2.71 per lb.

4. Coffee
4-yr. change: +31%
1-yr. change: -17%
Current price: $5.00 per lb.

3. Oranges
4-yr. change: +35%
1-yr. change: +23%
Current price: $1.21 per lb.

2. Ground Beef
4-yr. change: +35%
1-yr. change: +8%
Current price: $4.13 per lb.

1. Bacon (due in large part to the spread of Porcine Epidemic Diarrhea Virus (PEDv) in hogs)
4-yr. change: +53%
1-yr. change: +13%
Current price: $5.55 per lb
4-yr. change: +53%
1-yr. change: +13%
Current price: $5.55 per lb.

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« Reply #746 on: May 12, 2014, 07:03:25 PM »
May 9th, 2014
Kansas is expected to produce its smallest winter wheat crop since 1996, an indication of a deepening drought across the nation's wheat belt, the government said Friday in its first official forecast of the growing season. Down 18%.
http://www.agweb.com/article/kansas_wheat_forecast_to_be_smallest_since_1996_NAA_Associated_Press/




KANSAS CROP PROGRESS AND CONDITION TOPEKA, KS, May 12 , 2014
Heat and high winds caused further deterioration of the Kansas wheat crop, according to USDA’s National Agricultural Statistics Service. Blowing and drifting dirt continues to be a concern in southwest Kansas, as some fields are too dry and barren to hold the topsoil against the strong winds.
Stock water supplies were rated 20 percent very short, 32 short, 48 adequate, and 0 surplus.
http://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Kansas/Publications/Crop_Progress_and_Condition/current.pdf

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« Reply #747 on: May 12, 2014, 07:12:02 PM »


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This, this is what is scary, not even just for food, but for extreme fire danger. There is no deep wetness to the ground, so the teeny rain we got last thurs night, while enough to ruin the hay, did nothing for the ground moisture content. It is already turning to cement were there is no irrigation. This is a few months too soon.

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« Reply #748 on: May 12, 2014, 07:16:31 PM »
We are in moderate drought too. Even though we have had alot of rain in the last two months, we had a really dry winter. Our spring rains are starting to make up that deficit however. Like on Saturday-Tuesday (at least) it is supposed to be non-stop raining again.

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« Reply #749 on: May 12, 2014, 07:33:45 PM »
I am in the exceptional drought area of California, and it shows in the soil and plants, for sure.