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millerized1

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Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« on: October 27, 2008, 08:33:14 AM »
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/obama-followers-vandalize-homes-in-gainesville/
Caution, correctly spelled cursing in the photo's....


......which makes this being done by actual obama supporters suspect. ;)

Sure am glad I don't live in this area ::)

If this were an Anti-Obama message, we'd have the phrase "HATE CRIME" all over the news >:(

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2008, 09:06:22 AM »
Civil War pt 2 anyone?  It seems we may have absolutely no choice.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2008, 10:21:27 AM »
I don't see a civil war as inevitable at all.

Few people outside Stromfront, and the black equivalent (Nation of Islam?), are that rascist. The non-rascist moderates though, are easily manipulated. A little bit of vandalism, and the blogosphere ignites. What better way to generate hate for your enemy than a false flag operation? What better way to keep the populous busy than trivialities like skin color? Or sexuality?

If "they" keep the tensions high, but not too high, then they can keep people busy forever.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2008, 10:50:52 AM »
I do not see the vandalism as being "racist".  I think that it is mostly a difference in opinion on which form of government our country needs.  We have the Socialist masses that want to bring in Obama, and those of us that love our freedom that have almost no choice but to vote for McCain.  The country is so divided on the issue of how much power we should allot the government that I do not see much more in the way of choices.  I hope I am really wrong on that, but I do not feel I am.  I fully expect cities to burn on November 5th, no matter who wins.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2008, 07:01:39 PM »
I heard this on democracy now podcast which seemed sort of related:

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McCain volunteer Ashley Todd has now confessed that she made up the story about being attacked by a large black man who carved the letter “B” into her cheek.

But let’s talk in a little more depth about the eagerness and even glee with which some in the right-wing blogosphere jumped on that story and immediately claimed it as proof of their worst nightmares coming true. So much of that story was unbelievable from the very beginning, yet certain people wanted to believe it so badly that they ignored all the warning signs and launched into full battle cry.

Andy McCarthy at the National Review’s Corner responded with a post so embarrassing he has now taken it down so nobody can see it.

Dan Riehl at riehlworldview.com posted under the headline “Thugs for change,” claiming that “Obama’s run his campaign just like a street thug out of Chicago. Now we get to see what some of his worst supporters are like.”


http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/10/24/the_aftermath_of_ashley_todds.html

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_gave_reporters_inc.php

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2008, 07:06:13 PM »
Yeah.  She should be drawn and quartered for that.

For one, it's just plain wrong.  Plus, does she really think she is helping McCain by doing that?

It's like when a swastika or KKK is found on a college dorm.  Every single story of that I've heard in the past few years has ended up being done by the alleged "victim".  All they are doing is hurting their own cause (in addition to libeling someone).

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2008, 07:09:01 PM »
Looking at your amended post, I should also add that though it is wrong, this generally has been a game played by the left.

But in either case, it should be punished to the full extent of the law.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2008, 07:40:15 PM »
Looking at your amended post, I should also add that though it is wrong, this generally has been a game played by the left.

But in either case, it should be punished to the full extent of the law.

 When was it played by the left ?

 I seem to recall numerous cases of the right doing that.

on here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove you can find the following on Karl Rove:

In 1986, just before a crucial debate in campaign, Rove claimed that his office had been bugged by Democrats. The police and FBI investigated and discovered that the bug's battery was so small that it needed to be changed every few hours, and the investigation was dropped.[27] Critics, including other Republican operatives, suspected Rove had bugged his own office to garner sympathy votes in the close governor's race.[28]

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 Bush republicans leafleted cars just hours before a primary in the Carolinas in 2000 claiming that MCains adopted child was an illegitimate child of his own, a charge that was baseless, though may have influenced that race. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080128/banks

 Most all of the major assassinations in the US JFK, RFK, MLK where all of democrats.

 Senators who received weapons grade Anthrax that came from a US army lab where all democratic congressmen who opposed the patriot act.

 Then there's election fraud in 2000 and 2004, diebold voting machine company that is run by former computer criminals connected to republicans.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2008/100108LHS.htm .
There have been numerous articles and problems exposed with these voting machines by computer scientists and others.   
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0511-11.htm

 The recent Acorn thing is actually a scam because although a few voters where possibly registered falsely, actual cases of people showing up at poles to vote under false identity is practically unheard of and would be a foolish thing to try and an election could not conceivably be altered in such a manner as it would not work. Republicans are trying hard to purge voter lists and other such tactics.
 
 Then there was Watergate .. I'm sure the democrats have done some dastardly things, but none of them I can think of at the moment ..
 

Having said all that, you might think maybe I support the far left, I consider myself a moderate centrist however.



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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2008, 08:11:59 PM »
I really don't want to get in a left-right thing.  The point is, it is wrong.

But here is an example:  http://wrgw.blogspot.com/2007/11/swastika-vandalism-hits-gw.html

and another:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn

and another:  http://newsok.com/fbi-sheriff-lynching-report-false/article/3251897/

and another:  http://michellemalkin.com/2005/12/07/what-happened-to-paul-mirecki/

Here's a before:  http://www.pioneerlocal.com/clarendonhills/news/1214358,em-WEBattack-101008-s3.article

and after:  http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78437

Here's an opinion piece on same:  http://www.vdare.com/francis/fake_hate.htm

I am sure you would decry these just a vehemently as you do the numbskull who carved a B in her face.

I did not want you to go away misinformed since you couldn't recall any similar incidents from the left.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2008, 09:06:51 PM »
ure am glad I don't live in this area ::)

If this were an Anti-Obama message, we'd have the phrase "HATE CRIME" all over the news >:(

It is because the media overlords tell us hate crimes cant happen to whites  ::)

In my neck of the woods someone tossed a molotov at a mccain sign. It is on both sides. The sheeple have just lost it, these things lead to civil war or revolution. I this case  civil war would be pretty messy.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2008, 09:14:02 PM »
I have been suspecting a point in time where a civil war in this nation would happen again...and it looks probable to me if the situation is right. I pray that I am wrong though.

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2008, 12:29:08 AM »
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moderate centrist


What???


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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2008, 03:33:41 AM »
I really don't want to get in a left-right thing.  The point is, it is wrong.

But here is an example:  http://wrgw.blogspot.com/2007/11/swastika-vandalism-hits-gw.html

and another:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerri_Dunn

and another:  http://newsok.com/fbi-sheriff-lynching-report-false/article/3251897/

and another:  http://michellemalkin.com/2005/12/07/what-happened-to-paul-mirecki/

Here's a before:  http://www.pioneerlocal.com/clarendonhills/news/1214358,em-WEBattack-101008-s3.article

and after:  http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78437

Here's an opinion piece on same:  http://www.vdare.com/francis/fake_hate.htm

I am sure you would decry these just a vehemently as you do the numbskull who carved a B in her face.

I did not want you to go away misinformed since you couldn't recall any similar incidents from the left.


 Ok, well I have never heard of any of those, they seem to be mostly things that happened on college campuses from skimming them ... offhand, I'm not sure what to make of those .. but the stuff I mentioned is all stuff that happened in the realm of government itself, though some of it conspiratorial in nature.

 People doubt my claims of being a centrist because of my talk about taxes and such, however:

 I am a critic of evolution, though maybe for different reasons than some Christians. I have read books like Darwin's black box and listened to a number of podcasts on Intelligent design for awhile, though I don't always like the way Intelligent design is presented I did find it interesting. That reminds me of a criticism I can mention against the left just to try to show you I may not be as biased as I appear: The left supported eugenics which was a movement to sterilize people who where considered unfit. This was supported by The National Academy of Sciences at the time. The Eugenics movement was big around the time prior to WW II and seemed to be supported by certain political elites, not all leftist from appearances, though generally there was alot of support from the left and many Christian conservatives had been opposed to Eugenics. Some number of people where sterilized including a woman who was later found to be depressed or something and not unfit in any way.
It had been said that the holocaust was the culmination of the eugenics movement and resulted in that movement dying out. I have heard that the Bush family was tied to the eugenics movement: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=bush+eugenics&btnG=Google+Search I actually doubt that the Bush family is really conservative in the traditional way however. Bush claiming to be a Christian when he belongs to an occult society (skull & bones) - along with John Kerry. Billy Graham provied cover in the story of George W Bush and his supposed conversion to Christianity, but that may have been Graham's role to do as he is supposedly a 33rd degree Mason. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=billy+graham+33rd+degree+mason&btnG=Search

 I also don't agree with the left on separation of church and state. I disagree that the government worker in Alabama had to remove the ten commandments from his office and things of that nature. I don't believe that the founding fathers had intended such a meaning in the seperation of church and state.

 I believe abortion is wrong, but I will say I don't know what the political solution is. I used to argue about this with my dad when I was around 20 years old at dinner to the point that my mother would start crying. My dad was more of a traditional liberal. Over the years I got tired of arguing with people on this one. I will say however that I don't agree with Catholic Priest who try to make abortion the only issue to vote on when there are wars and other things besides.


 I am sort of a reverse centrist compared to libertarians because libertarians consider themselves centrists in that they tend to be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. I am sort of the opposite: being moderately fiscally liberal and moderately socially conservative. However it's all your perspective, if you are far to the right then a moderate may appear to be far to the left.

 Here's another one: the French Revolution was largely a left phenomenon in that the clergy where attacked ...


 



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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2008, 05:38:32 AM »
ure am glad I don't live in this area ::)

If this were an Anti-Obama message, we'd have the phrase "HATE CRIME" all over the news >:(

It is because the media overlords tell us hate crimes cant happen to whites  ::)

In my neck of the woods someone tossed a molotov at a mccain sign. It is on both sides. The sheeple have just lost it, these things lead to civil war or revolution. I this case  civil war would be pretty messy.

I have a picture of me urinating on a Hillary sign.   ;D
Lost it in the same boating accident I lost my guns in ;)


Seriously, go pick up a copy of Civil War II http://www.amazon.com/Civil-War-II-Breakup-America/dp/0929408179.  Read the "lists of thing that need to happen", but while you're reading, check off the things that have already happened.  The only thing we're still needing is a catalyst.  This election may just be that catalyst. The financial "news", the race and nationality pocketing, the whole shebang is ready to go bang. We've already been told there'll be riots if "whitey steals the election".

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2008, 06:13:05 AM »
Surfivor,

I appreciate your comments.  And I'm glad I edited my comment before posting.   ;)

I have to admit, your position on those points was not what I expected.

I am a libertarian conservative myself.  That's probably why we disagree on a lot.

But well stated.  And it is clear you are not monolithic.

Not that you need my approval, but I thought I would mention it....


Cheers

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Re: Obama followers vandalize homes in Gainsville area
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2008, 06:15:29 AM »
 I think I am fairly open minded as far as different religions, that is I have studied and read the bible for much of my life. I have attended a few churches, though not always that regularly. I am strongly influenced by Jewish Kabbalah/mysticism, as well as eastern yoga/hinduism and buddhism. I don't agree with the far lefts political correctness, attacks on religion, promotion of homosexuality and sexual promiscuity.

 Now if you follow some of the conspiracy stuff, there is an allegation that freemasonry or something like it might be the plans for the elites for some new religion, that's sort of speculative however.

I actually think I have a good potential for understanding the global elites because in fact the knights templars where the first international bankers. That group I believe may have much control over the central bank of england, though details on that I am not sure on. Anyway The templars studied kabbalah in the holy land and later they merged with the masons and used them as a front. Many of these global elites seem to have some connection to the occult, and many occultists try to use the dark side of kabbalah. That's why many jews have always been secretive about kabbalah as it can be missused. If you ever saw the movie raiders of the lost ark, there's alot of interesting facets to that movie connected to all this. I can't say I can explain everything related to this, though it is an area of interest. Many of the founding fathers for instance where masons also which I've never really tried to figure out what the significance of that is ..

 Anyway, I don't know what to think of this Civil War II thing. There are tensions and global elites have alot of power, but it's not clear that they never mess up or that there plans always succeed the way they intended.

 There does seem to be a danger that the election could be stolen I will say. The past two elections seemed to have had some amount of being rigged, but since they appeared to be close elections, the rigging seemed not as excessive as it could be. If the 2008 election is rigged in a major way, I guess it could cause some sort of chaos.

 The other thing is, if you are white and think white politicians (well at least the ones that have been in power for the last 8 years and those like them) represent you because they are white, well that doesn't seem to be true as they color the white politicians seemed to be concerned most about is the color of green cash.

 SueDonim - thanks on that .. oh yea I've always been aware that colleges tend be be bastions of liberalism, but I don't really know alot about it or follow that so much
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