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How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« on: July 14, 2015, 10:14:59 AM »
 I am wondering how bad is Cleveland, especially as regards to crime ? I saw a stat that says it is the 5th worst city for crime in the USA. This list goes something like:

1 Detroit
2 Oakland CA
3 Memphis TN
4 st Louis Missori
5 Clevland

I am asking because I have  to tell an agency whether or not I want to spend a month in Cleveland for training. After that I would work from home for a 6 to 12 month contract over the web.
It is sort of located in the vicinity of Eucilid Ave and the corner of east 105th street. I see there are museums, hospitals, starbucks and so on in the area.

 They say they will try to get me a high pay rate as well as all travel and hotel expenses paid and supposedly I could fly home on the weekends or I could maybe stay for two weeks and come home for a 3 or 4 day weekend and then go back for two more weeks.

 It sounded like I could get a  hotel close to the work site

 I would rather work closer to home, but I may need to keep options open .. It's not a done deal or anything, I just have to decide if I am interested in the position or not
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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 12:10:10 PM »
Haven't been there in a few years, but I recall it being a nice city... just stay out of the run-down areas and you should be fine. I think the Rock-n-roll hall of fame is there (might be of interest to you, surf).

http://rockhall.com/visit-the-museum/plan/

Personally, I like visiting new places... sounds like a nice trip... and it's only a month!

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 12:17:27 PM »
I worked in downtown for almost 10 years - it ended 2/13 (when I started working remote - whohoo!)

You will be outside of downtown and on the east side which puts you in both the more cultured side (museums and gardens) and dangerous side (gangs).

Looks like you will be on the campus of Case Western Reserve - this is a very private school in Cleveland - very expensive. Dr's and dentists go here as well as future captains of industry. There was an attack on the campus last year in one of the keycarded buildings, one of the students was robbed, other than that it is a pretty nice area.

You will be near the museum of art and natural history (I recommend both). The Cleveland botanical gardens is there as well - if you are here on a weekend you should visit. If your training has you stay over 8/15 you should hit up little Italy (slightly east) and the feast of the assumption festival - lots of very good food at that.

Stay out of Glenville (north of you) if you drive through it keep your doors locked and windows up, you shouldn't have any issues, but there's always that one guy...

For the best food on the east side head over to Coventry - coffee shops, restaurants, live music and a very vibrant active night life - families and shoppers, not drinkers and partiers.

I highly recommend doing whatever it takes to work from home - I would take this trip for a 12 month contract.

Have fun - and spend lots 'o money while in town...  ;)

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 12:57:39 PM »
You will be in a very safe area if near Case Western. The bad areas are north near the lake on the east side (Glenville and Collinwood into the City of Euclid), then south (Central and Kinsman along Buckeye Road into Shaker Heights), and East Cleveland (Not shown on the map, it is basicically little Detroit....just avoid it).

You are ok to visit and spend your time there in the University district. Both big hospitals are there and they want it to be safe, therefore they have invested in the security of the area. EDC will be limited to non lethal items, I'd consider OC spray but dont know if the campuses you will be on will allow it.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2015, 01:59:53 PM »
 
Thanks alot everyone. I have to think about it some more but I may tell them I would consider it. Taxi from airport to that area or subway ?

 I like visiting cities, but not sure I could live in a city despite it has it's positive aspects, but for a month I perhaps could do it and I would be living out of a suitcase as well

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2015, 02:09:00 PM »
There are nice areas in Cleveland, and there are not so nice areas.
 
Steer clear of the not so nice areas (you will know them when you approach them) and you should be fine.
 
Oh, and try to avoid conversations about sports with Cleveland'ers... I swear, they are the most bitter and angry fanbase out there.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2015, 03:41:12 PM »

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2015, 04:55:23 PM »


By comparison, the national average violent crime rate was 367.9/100,000 in 2013.  Some areas appear to be 10x worse, others are only slightly above average.  Boston is 840/100,000 as a city you might be more familiar with.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2015, 04:54:45 AM »
The real work will begin when your company tries to get Cleveland to accept you being there for a month.. :o

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2015, 04:43:38 PM »
Actually Clevelanders are pretty nice... According to the news that is why the RNC is coming here next year, because we're nice. I'm sure that that is why it is too, no back door hand shakes or off the book agreements, it's because we're nice.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2015, 06:19:27 PM »
Haven't been there in a few years, but I recall it being a nice city... just stay out of the run-down areas and you should be fine. I think the Rock-n-roll hall of fame is there (might be of interest to you, surf).

http://rockhall.com/visit-the-museum/plan/

Personally, I like visiting new places... sounds like a nice trip... and it's only a month!

 Where else in the country would have a good music scene plus maybe cheaper to live or stay for awhile  ? I was just thinking, if I was closer to retirement and wanted to try to hook up with a bluesy hard rock band .. maybe I could find something in Nashville or someplace. I think Texas might be good also. If anyone wants to see a video of a band I was in a few years ago, I can send the link via PM

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2015, 08:13:49 AM »
Tennessee is a good state... no personal income tax, iirc and reasonable property taxes (which is definitely not the case in some other states without income tax *cough, cough* Texas, Florida *cough,cough*)

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2015, 04:04:34 PM »
Ohio is a good state - you just have to know where to buy. I am in an unincorporated area of a rural township. No city taxes, although I do pay state and federal.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2015, 10:48:16 AM »

I talked to the recruiting agency yesterday. The guy I work with was on vacation and just got back. What I was told yesterday was that the hotel near the jobsite is too expensive so I'd have to stay downtown someplace. He thought the crime rate downtown might be a little worse, but seemed unsure. He also did not know how I could get from a hotel downtown to the jobsite, if there was a subway or not ..

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2015, 10:53:22 AM »
Sounds like poor planning on their part as to transportation and lodging in their own city...I would investigate other options.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 02:26:09 PM »
There is a direct public transportation bus that runs, look for the "HealthLine" or Euclid Corridor through the Regional Transit Authority or RTA.

I believe it is a good downtown since the teams are having a fairly good record and they have the casino. They are keeping it safe and clean near public square and the warehouse district (some clubs and good restaurants). The other area that is good extends down East 9th and E4th to the Playhouse/Theater area.

I have carried CCW downtown and there are plenty of places to eat and have fun that allow.

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Re: How bad is Clevland Ohio ?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 04:02:51 PM »
Staying downtown will open you up to way more nightlife.

Here is a link to the bus system http://www.riderta.com/ - you can take this pretty much anywhere around, but renting a car would naturally be a better option for safety's sake. If you are staying downtown there is a subway(ish) that runs from the airport to Tower City, if your hotel is in Tower City you won't have to step outside.

There is a LOT to do in downtown, you will probably be surprised at how live the downtown scene is for a colder climate city. As mentioned the Casino is new - great if you like gambling, but don't waste your money eating there. Restaurants and bars galore. Warehouse district has very good food.

Have a corned beef sandwich at Slymans - you'll never want to leave..  :clap: