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Offline Stwood

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Talk about expired can goods
« on: August 30, 2019, 05:16:29 PM »
Yesterday the wife was canning up more garden stew, and needed something to throw in as more filler to get to 7 quarts.
I found a can of Allen brand cut green beans. The best by year was 2013. Oops...
So I opened the can (no bulging, rusting) and it looked good, smelled good. Took a sample and the beans tasted like normal canned bean. So in the stew they went.

2 days before that, we had found a can of carrots with the best by year of 2014.
Those carrots were also good. A little mushy, but taste was fine.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2019, 06:16:17 PM »
I think "bulging and rusting" are the operative terms here. That isn't happening then open and give it a go.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2019, 06:24:35 PM »
We had some spinach a few years ago that got away from us. It was about 10 over.  ::) Course with me, spinach will go over as I won't eat it from a can. Wife does, but seldom.
5-6 cans, and they were bulging. That went to the trash.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2019, 06:28:49 PM »
Yep, bulging = growing IMO. Trash.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2019, 07:33:12 PM »
I recently ate a glass jar of stuffed olives with an expiration date from 2013.  No issues, tasted fine.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2019, 05:36:51 AM »
my sisters-in-law were here for a visit from out of state.  One night for dinner, one asked if we had any ketchup.  Um, no idea - we don't use it as a condiment, but as an ingredient.  Fridge check, nope no ketchup.  She was surprised - what kind of American does NOT have ketchup in the fridge!  One of the kids ran downstairs to see if we had any in the food storage.  Yup.  SIL then looks at the bottle and says "expires in 2016" and decided she would do without.

We will use it and it is fine.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 08:55:11 AM »
Ketchup is one of the things we keep stocked. I buy in the largest container available, store brand, put one in the frig and several on the shelf. We use it as an ingredient, very little as a condiment. No problem if it's past the "best buy date".

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 06:21:33 PM »
Same here. Gotta make some RABBQ when we run low.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2019, 06:10:02 AM »
Same here. Gotta make some RABBQ when we run low.

Yep I got about 3 quarts in the frig that I never got around to canning. It's getting time to do a few more canner loads of BBQ beans and pulled pork with sauce. I'll need at least 9 more quarts of RABBQ. Need to get more vinegar, brown sugar and ketchup.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2019, 07:34:26 AM »
all right... what is RABBQ?

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2019, 08:39:33 AM »
 :rofl: :rofl: :clap: :clap:

RABBQ = Red acquired BBQ sauce. Tagged that by Stwood after I sent him the recipe and he liked it. I think I've got a scan of it somewhere.

Oh well no scan but it is here. Page 840 reply #25190 and 25198.


http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=87.msg748325#msg748325

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2019, 09:00:41 AM »
Yep I got about 3 quarts in the frig that I never got around to canning. It's getting time to do a few more canner loads of BBQ beans and pulled pork with sauce. I'll need at least 9 more quarts of RABBQ. Need to get more vinegar, brown sugar and ketchup.

We may try something like that. Need to have another type soup/stew canned up.
We have garden stew and pork soup currently.

I suppose you cook/soften your beans first, then add bbq sauce and pork, then can...

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2019, 09:14:25 AM »
Yes. I cook them pretty much done with whatever seasoning, onion etc., drain, add RABBQ, bring to simmer cook a while longer. The heat to boiling, fill jars and process pints 1 hour 20 minutes, quarts would go 1 hour 35 minutes.

Basically following the Ball Boston Baked Bean recipe with sugar, salt, molasses, onions and salt pork or other fatty meat. But not putting them in the oven for the second cooking.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2019, 09:21:01 AM »
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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2019, 09:24:39 AM »
Might need to have more sauce heated to add to the jars.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2020, 07:28:10 PM »
non-acidic foods, nothing visibly wrong with the can or leaking, I'm eating it. There's nothing wrong with it. Might get mushier, might take on a bit of taste from the can (but most cans are painted inside these days, not bare metal against the food). But properly pasteurized, sealed in a can, that stuff's good for as long as the can lasts.
There's a guy on YouTube that eats old canned military rations.
IIRC some canned meats from some failed antarctic expedition were uncovered and eaten to no ill effect decades after they were abandoned. Peter the Great once served some Wooly Mammoth exhumed from the frozen tundra. 
It's all consumable. You just have to get it past your mind, before it hits your taste buds.

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2020, 05:07:58 PM »
I have seen the Arctic expedition article somewhere...here's another one featuring century-old oysters.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/12/26/167819082/dont-fear-that-expired-food

They didn't actually eat it, but it was analyzed and found to be ok.

I ran across a 10-year expired can of corn once; I tried it and it was not the greatest, but was overall acceptable.  I have had other cans that have bulged and I've tossed them without opening.  My mother stuck a can opener into a bulged can once and had to clean it off the ceilings.  She didn't try to eat it.


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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2020, 12:37:00 AM »
guess you do not SteveMREinfo's channel...he recently treated himself with a WWI era canned MRE.

regarding old cans, I have the same experience with all of you.
But i had a case where the contents "reacted" with the can and got a metallic taste

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Re: Talk about expired can goods
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2020, 07:56:46 PM »
Our eating habits have changed but too soon to have used up cans of green beans and wax beans we use to make 3 bean salad with. Dating from 2013-2016. That seems like a couple of months ago we bought that. Will have to get back to 3 bean salad again.