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Title: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on April 04, 2020, 11:42:33 PM
Thread for living in lockdown as we are no longer, well most of us by now, preparing for it, we are in it.

Food : I have not been to a grocery store since end of February.  I am continuing my monthly order from Azure, the order pick up is outside, I wear a mask and I bet next pick up everyone is much more aware, so eating that and pantry storage and yard. I have one doe in Milk and her kid is 3 months old, I am getting about 2 cups of milk every morning, 4 cups go to yogurt every week, some for tea and some for special ( like the cream soup) I am temporarily out of cheddar cheese as Azure was out last month.  It is weird to draw down pantry supplies without being able to restock right away, I agree with other posters that I am buying much less than my usual, as I cant go to the regular stores ( no-one is wearing masks yet, doesnt seem safe) and Azure is out of stock on alot too.

A few days ago I opened one can of Bega cheese, first time trying it, and tried it on its own. It tastes ok, mild, but some flavor, I will eat this for sure when needed.  I gave some to a neighbor to try, snacked on some, then put about 1/2 a can, grated, into a cream of brocolli and cheese soup.  Very good soup.

Tonight I opened a can of dried eggs as it needs to be used ( purchased 2014), I went thru some LTS this week to check for things like this, I made peanut butter cookies.  I have 1/2 dozen fresh eggs left as I gave 1/2 dozen away yesterday knowing I want to use up the dry eggs, and another 6 on the counter from this week in case I need to borrow my friends incubator, If other neighbor gets the chicks, I will just eat these. I am getting about 1 egg a day from the hens.

Transportation: Since I dont go anywhere much, I didnt notice at first that my car had a problem from my last time ( must have driven over a rock or pothole in the wrong spot), oil light was on, I put in oil, then had a real steady drip.  I have AAA towing, so has to be repaired remotely -  call a shop, call AAA, leave a note inside the car for the mechanic, put on my N95 mask to hand ID to tow driver, stay home, clean the ID. Pay over the phone with a credit card.  My offspring drove it up here to me, left the key on top of the car, and had a ride arranged with partner to get back home.  I need to go clean the inside before I drive it.  I did get to talk to them for a few minutes from 20 feet away, from the porch. 

Security:  This is my second day dragging a pistol with me everywhere around the place.  To uncomfortable to wear a belt for so long inside, so I just carry it with me to the next room and set it by where I am in reach.  I wear the belt/holster outside in the yard and barn.

I never had thought about having partial lock downs like this.   SO, my offspring works, so gets exposed to other people, is more likely to be a carrier so we cant mingle.  In all my pretend emergency scenarios it would either be a "mild" emergency, like some kind of supply disruption where they stay in place but we can help each other, or it is so crazy they need to be here where there is more infrastructure.   and room.  Thinking of that Tom Petty song, The waiting is the hardest part

Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Greekman on April 05, 2020, 01:21:51 AM
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Security:  This is my second day dragging a pistol with me everywhere around the place.  To uncomfortable to wear a belt for so long inside, so I just carry it with me to the next room and set it by where I am in reach.  I wear the belt/holster outside in the yard and barn.

Since you are a lady and probably some time to spare, why don't you sew/stitch a simple carry pack/pouch for pistol, magazine, flashlight and knife? (for use while in home)
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Greekman on April 05, 2020, 01:55:17 AM
me, I was not influenced much because of the lockdown.
I am studying for a number of Agronomical certifications. About 100 pages and a test a week. x10 certifications. that keeps me many hours in front of the PC each day.
It so happened that the weather is rainy for 3 weeks now. That stemmed my urge to go outside, even though a daily walk is good regardless.

I started this lockdown with the promise to get a little lighter on the scale, but do not think I will achieve this. I am good on eating sensibly, but I did not manage to drop the evening digestion of calories.

My hair! my hair! if I bathe and dry them with the hair dryer, they fluff up to twice my head size!
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on April 05, 2020, 09:45:17 AM
Since you are a lady and probably some time to spare, why don't you sew/stitch a simple carry pack/pouch for pistol, magazine, flashlight and knife? (for use while in home)

Good idea, although I generally just put it in my pocket when I change rooms.  then set it on the counter/side table/what have you.  These overalls have large pockets. 

But, you are right in that I am not carrying anything else, flashlight, knife, etc...  I think that kind of EDC might need to be incorparated in my idea of a cross body bag to wear when off property.

I have been thinking about digging out a bag, I think I have a bag I can wear cross body without making one, then while I note my needs more on any long term carrying needs, to perfect it, I can sew masks.  I also am going to see if I have a bag I can wear cross body and can lock the zip closed like I do on my soft sided rifle bags.  That would be for leaving the house, a nice stylish cross body bag with a teeny key lock. Then one of those wrist bungys with the key on it.  But, since I dont leave the house, not an issue, yet.

I spent yesterday going thru the closet seeing if there was any missplaced elastic, for masks
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: ChEng on April 05, 2020, 10:46:28 AM
Since you are a lady and probably some time to spare, why don't you sew/stitch a simple carry pack/pouch for pistol, magazine, flashlight and knife? (for use while in home)
Tom Clancy, in some of his books, described a purse carried by female secret service agents, called  a FAG bag (Fast Action Gun bag.) It was a purse with a side-opening pocket along the bottom. The pocket held the gun, kind of like a holster, and the agent had to simply reach from the side, into the bottom of her purse, and could quickly draw her weapon to fire.

If you have the sewing (or crafting) skills, and time, something like that may be better than the belt holster. Of course, then you have to get used to carrying your purse around the house like you were out - even from room to room.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on April 13, 2020, 05:14:53 PM
We hit town yesterday after being home for 3 weeks. Felt good to just drive around. Grabbed a bag of burgers and went to a boat dock that was vacant except for 1 car w/trailer.
Watched nature a bit then the rain hit and headed home.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Chemsoldier on April 13, 2020, 05:45:32 PM
Not too bad here. 

We are getting groceries delivered every week, just veggies and some dairy mostly. 

Mask wearing is still growing.  Probably 50%+ of the people I saw when out the other day were not masked.  I havent been out for two days now, though.

On the warmer days the walking/biking/running crowd in the neighborhood is relatively thick.

The air is noticeably cleaner and the noise of the city noticably less.  Fewer flights into the airport.  The rush hour noise is less, there is still a daytime hum, the quiet is markedly more noticable at night though.

I think its just a Colorado thing, but people are going outside at 8 PM and howling like wolves for reason.  Some as a thank you for health care workers, some to mourn friends, others just because.  About a week ago we went out and heard no one.  Now we can hear at least a dozen in our neighborhood howling.  Kind of cool really.  I know it is silly, maybe that is part of the fun.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on April 13, 2020, 06:01:17 PM
Not too bad here. 




I think its just a Colorado thing, but people are going outside at 8 PM and howling like wolves for reason.  Some as a thank you for health care workers, some to mourn friends, others just because.  About a week ago we went out and heard no one.  Now we can hear at least a dozen in our neighborhood howling.  Kind of cool really.  I know it is silly, maybe that is part of the fun.

Have the Brown family moved in on ya??
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on April 13, 2020, 06:30:48 PM


I think its just a Colorado thing, but people are going outside at 8 PM and howling like wolves for reason.  Some as a thank you for health care workers, some to mourn friends, others just because.  About a week ago we went out and heard no one.  Now we can hear at least a dozen in our neighborhood howling.  Kind of cool really.  I know it is silly, maybe that is part of the fun.

They do that out here alot, but not in my particular neighborhood. 
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Carver on April 13, 2020, 07:10:49 PM
We hear what we call "hooters" when we camp in state parks. For some reason, alcohol?, around the campfire some guys feel a need to hoot. I don't know what it means, perhaps a primeval means of confirming your manhood? I hardly think it is any sort of mating call, can't imagine what that would attract. I'm over-analyzing it; they're out in the woods around a campfire, it's dark, they've got a beer, there's these things called stars up there they hardly ever see and so what the heck "H-O-O-O-T!!"

I've never had that reaction to being out in the woods around a campfire.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Prepper456 on April 13, 2020, 07:31:21 PM
calling in sasquatches
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on April 13, 2020, 08:22:56 PM
I don't know what it means, perhaps a primeval means of confirming your manhood? I hardly think it is any sort of mating call, can't imagine what that would attract.


Probably something you don't want.  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Greekman on April 13, 2020, 11:16:49 PM
went for a walk a bit away from town...It is a flat road that was made to bring water to a reservoir. Right on the side of our mountain. Had to smell the mountain smells for quite some time...
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on April 27, 2020, 09:29:38 PM
I went and got the CoVID swab test this afternoon, I will know results in a day or two.  I have horrible spring allergies, so hard to know what is what.  I do cough from allergies, I think, maybe not this much though, my local offspring thinks I dont cough like this from the hay fever.  Allergies do make me feel rundown, so is it the same kind of rundown ? But, I dont typically have a low fever on and off, and I dont normally have a rash from my hay fever.  The actual swab thing is as horrid as it sounds, on the other hand it was quick, well the actual  swab was quick. Otherwise, it is a very slow process, whereby you drive up to a screening point where a doctor takes your temp, O2, pulse rate and ask a few questions and listen to your lungs, and then tells you to go park.  Every other spot is open.  And then you call the receptionist inside.  And answer more questions to update your chart, and then wait for a different doctor to call you back.  It was very hot afternoon to have so many waiting so long in cars, no shade, in this area if I had been a dog, all those people would have got a ticket for leaving me in the car so long.  The doctor was trying to call my house phone, even though the receptionist who asked so many questions said she would give the doctor my cell number, and she had verified my cell number.  But, eventually, the doctor just walked over to my car and said she had been trying to call me. Spot 18. So, I told the doctor that I just wanted to have the test and rule it out.  Then a nurse came over after a short time and did the swab.  Not sure why all the waits and redundancy, but in the end, it was not hard to have them give me a test. 
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: LvsChant on April 28, 2020, 09:56:52 AM
Hoping the test results come quickly and you get good news, MM
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Carver on May 01, 2020, 08:53:09 AM
Some people are done with living in lock down.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/hundreds-protest-michigan-lawmakers-consider-extending-governors-emergency-powers-n1196886?fbclid=IwAR0yHeBJG_PZmHq3xK3ZYXI29k4Eq5Tay2itxxbyz3-jSNHr7B3qkdgJNQg (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/hundreds-protest-michigan-lawmakers-consider-extending-governors-emergency-powers-n1196886?fbclid=IwAR0yHeBJG_PZmHq3xK3ZYXI29k4Eq5Tay2itxxbyz3-jSNHr7B3qkdgJNQg)
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Morning Sunshine on May 01, 2020, 10:27:57 AM
Some people are done with living in lock down.

I had to travel a bit yesterday and on the way home, I decided to text a friend in the next town on the interstate.  I pulled off, sent a quick message to see if she would welcome a visit, and then took myself and daughter to the OLD carhop restaurant (seriously, the decor has not changed at this place since it opened!) while we waited.  The carhop was PACKED, doing business all by phone, then bringing the food.
Anyway, my friend texted back and we went over and let the four little girls (age 4-10) play. 

I am done with this lockdown, she is done with it.  Her opinion was that in the beginning, we didn't know anything, and now we have facts.  So let us make our decisions and deal with the consequences.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on May 01, 2020, 10:47:58 AM
I am feeling that way too, unfortuneatly CA thinks we need to all stay home until we can be kept "safe", but life has never been safe.  My county has had a total of 125 known tested infections, never more than 2 people in the hospital at once, and 2 deaths, maybe 20 currently known infected and at home.   

CA has a state law that all beaches are public, they belong to everyone, no-one can own one, a certain width strip by the water down the entire state, even in front of rich people houses.  But now locals are deciding they dont want out of area people to come to "their" beach.  I did call in to my County Supes office, and reminded them that they are not "our" beaches. In any case, starting tomorrow no-one is allowed on a beach in this county, unless walking to or from the water ( ie., to go surf) between the hours of 10am and 5pm.  They do this to keep people from inland from being there.  I say, why do we care if they expose themselves ?  Locals can just not go there in the middle of the day on a weekend....

So, I am not as isolated as I once was, since I tested negative, my youngest, student and students roommate came out to stay with me and visit me.  I even got a hug, my first human tough contact since Feb.,  we are not meant to be in emergency mode this long. We cooked and ate meals together.  We drove to the coast last evening ( all parking lots are roped off, but people park along the road edges) , walked the windy bluffs, watched the sunset, put our feet in the water.  We did not break the law by "sitting on the beach" we walked and stood......  But tomorrow that will be illegal most of the day.  Maybe also illegal to be in our wooded parks mid day ?  I have no idea.   There are not good ways to disseminate the data, none of us get updated in any way that is obvious, it is word of mouth.

This is very wrong here.  We need to save emergency measure for when we see cases climbing, we are "using it up" while there is no emergency here. 
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Carver on May 01, 2020, 11:45:55 AM
The lockdown seems to have gravitated from a safety precaution to a political tactic. Interesting how the description of the event emphasized firearms being present.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Greekman on May 01, 2020, 02:17:14 PM
well. I think it s not and cannot be over.
Monitoring closely our local statistics one can observe infection rate spiking up every 7 days with a delay period of 10 days. A little bigger spike can similarly be observed after Easter.
SO unless 14 days pass after he measures relaxation, me, I will not change my routine.

BTW, in the online epidemics seminar i take, we learned that the infection rate depends -aside other factors- by the available to infect pool of people. It has become mathematically obvious that it cannot be over, until a calculated percentage of the populace (1 divided by R) comes into contact with the infection.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on May 01, 2020, 03:21:19 PM
I'm hanging tight. Ventured out yesterday, but was masked up and stayed away from people like they had been crop dusting.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Redman on May 01, 2020, 05:13:11 PM
Staying close mask on here also. Texas is opening up except for barbers, salons and bars, retail (Macy's etc.) is on a to-go basis, call in an order and they will bring it out. That is good I guess but the infection rates seem to still be going up, maybe that's just increased testing, but I wonder just how smart the whole thing is. As for the beaches, all are public for a certain distance from high water and that is now open during certain hours for foot traffic only as far as I know. Personally I don't think the whole thing is a good idea but nobody asked me.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Carver on May 01, 2020, 05:19:14 PM
I got a foot in both camps. I wear the mask on the rare times I go out and see the need for lockdown, but on the other hand, or foot, some of it seems extreme whose only objective is to smother the economy. But protesting in a state capitol bearing firearms is a little cuckoo.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on May 01, 2020, 05:31:43 PM
I got a foot in both camps. I wear the mask on the rare times I go out and see the need for lockdown, but on the other hand, or foot, some of it seems extreme whose only objective is to smother the economy. But protesting in a state capitol bearing firearms is a little cuckoo.

Yea, I don't agree with the protesting. And there's a governor in MI that needs some common sense.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Carver on May 04, 2020, 09:46:41 PM
To call this a lockdown is hyperbole, they did do that in China from where the term was imported but we don't have that. I leave the house and we have traveled and have had visitors from another county. The order to stay home and away from others was misguided; it should've been an advisement. Authoritarian edicts like this are not necessary for the general public who are capable of common sense and only invites the reactionary nutjobs. I like our flag, our president, guns, the bible; but when you got a mob of screaming greasy-looking riff-raff hooting and hollering waving our flag and Trump signs, toting guns and bible verses I sincerely doubt their intentions, question their affiliations and assume the worse of their IQ.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Chemsoldier on May 05, 2020, 06:46:06 AM
Yeah, the bighest madhouse crowds I have seen recently are at Lowes.  That covid transmission risk aren't people clubbing or getting their liberty on.  Those are people improving their house's capacity to let them stay home more. Taking tactical risk to enable strategic risk reduction over time.

People are loosening up where the feel they must, or are most passionate about, but by and large most still are taking exposure limiting measures.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on May 05, 2020, 09:14:37 AM
guy who clears/mows for me in the spring brought his kids, so I mostly  stayed many feet away while keeping an eye on them on the deck. until youngest needed the bathroom.  But hot day outside in the sunshine in general.  The older ( 5yr old) from early comments I can see that this is hard on the young ones.  School and pre-school closed.  No play dates.  ( This was a shorter visit from him, so only 2 hours of work, so the kids didnt hang around his work all day)

Independent contractors like this have no government money flowing their way in this. They need to work as usual. Not to mention fire clearing is much needed, we are in a drought year, about half normal rainfall this year.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Oakie on May 05, 2020, 03:47:16 PM
Good to see you are all doing well.
Not much change in life in small town Oklahoma.
Have not missed a day of work, one person office...I meet some customers outside but some come in.
I'm getting more rest, no exercise classes or Wednesday night church. Beginning to meet for Sunday services divided into several time slots and social distancing.  Have not seen some family since March.
There are some shortages in stores. Ended up ordering pet food on line. Did not realize how much toilet paper I had on hand. Guess I'm OK for a year, lol.
I get ButcherBox and EveryPlate deliveries and drove to local Ranch and picked up extra beef for the freezer. Had copied Jack's little greenhouse set-up and had plants ready to set out, so garden is coming along.
Just dug out my N95 masks last week. Still simply wear a bandana when shopping, in respect for store employees. No crowds here. 
Would love to simply stay home a couple weeks, but thankful for income through this. Have not taken a vacation in decades. Don't need one when most days are simple and enjoyable.
It isn't unusual for folks here to bring their children. I have a room in back of office where my sons, more recently granddaughter, hung out after school.

Leather/motorcycle shops sell various bags that can be worn over shoulder or around waist and strapped to leg that are awesome for packing life's little essentials. Very easy access and hands free, very difficult for anyone to grab and run.

Prayers you all stay well and safe and giving thanks for simple things.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: LvsChant on May 06, 2020, 12:37:32 PM
Such a nice post, Oakie +1

Really glad to hear you are doing fine there... that seems to be the way things are going for many places in small towns (and with reasonable govt folks). I cannot imagine our local sheriff arresting people for the crazy nonsense I'm seeing on the news elsewhere.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on May 08, 2020, 04:52:47 PM
Went back to trying to get an allergy appointment.  After going round and round with the large PPO type corporate care entity here, who would not see me in person as I cough once or twice when I go by the grasshay in the barn ( due to the allergies I need relief from) , and their other urgent care arm is the one who did the Covid test on me a week and a half ago.  I guess getting the negative test, which I realy didnt meet full terms for but insisted on, has doomed me in their mind to be seen in person.  Even though I have waited and observed and in addition to the negative test have not developed symptoms, above the allergy symptoms.  It turns out I had another cold sore virus flare last week which is why it was worse feeling than usual.  I was eventually passed to someone who identified himself as a doctor, and I ended up telling him that I could just go elsewhere.  I realy feel for the many people in this county who have no other choice than one of our two corporate outfits.  I went online and looked up "allergy doctor my county", called a place that looked likely and I will see an MD in person monday afternoon.  redacted city ear, nose and throat medical group. 

I still have not gone to stores, especially grocery shopping, but I went to a pharmacy yesterday afternoon, masked, to get different type of allergy meds, felt realy wierd to be in a store again, using an atm machine....  But, I am planning on going to a grocery store next week.  It turns out we only have something like 2 active, known cases in the county right now.   But this part of CA has deep fear over the whole thing
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: mountainmoma on May 08, 2020, 09:06:14 PM
Realy just more than over the whole howl at 8 pm thing.  Scares my cat and livestock as some of the locals have the coyote yips down, so much so that I at first went out and yelled and threw a few things in that direction to get the coyotes to move on -- and this all goes on for 5 minutes at least.  Give it a break.  We see video clips of Italy apartment dwellers making music together on balconies, and I get the animals running scared due to howls and yips.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Carver on May 13, 2020, 05:23:02 PM
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BREAKING: Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down Evers’ Safer-At-Home order
https://wxow.com/2020/05/13/breaking-wisconsin-supreme-court-strikes-down-evers-safer-at-home-order/ (https://wxow.com/2020/05/13/breaking-wisconsin-supreme-court-strikes-down-evers-safer-at-home-order/)

The wall is crumbling.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Fixit on May 13, 2020, 08:05:56 PM
Well I just admit that I am a rebel. I never went into lockdown , never put on a.make or gloves. Now I live very rural and the 2 counties that I work in are heavy population centers.  Only 16 cases between them and only  5 still active . Call me crazy but I'm doing fine.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Redman on May 21, 2020, 06:28:33 AM
Texas Governor said his stay at home order would expire May 31. Various Mayors and county governments have called BS on that and locally extended their own order until June 10. Personally I agree with them. Texas covid cases are increasing since the state reopened though the timing of the increases seems to make it uncertain they were caused by the reopening. The lockdown hasn't noticeably effected us but has caused my not to maintain supplies of some items I had in storage, even to toss some of it though there was nothing wrong with it other than a taste we just couldn't abide, stuff wasn't out of it's marked best by date.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on May 21, 2020, 07:08:33 AM

I agree that those of us that can, would be a good idea to stay hunkered down.
Ok to go ahead and do your thing, but stay masked up.
This has been a decent trial run on using our supplies.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Redman on May 21, 2020, 07:14:34 AM
I agree that those of us that can, would be a good idea to stay hunkered down.
Ok to go ahead and do your thing, but stay masked up.
This has been a decent trial run on using our supplies.

Pitched 4 cans of that DT luncheon loaf.  :rofl:
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on May 21, 2020, 07:32:01 AM

Took mine to the food bank.  :-X

 ;D
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Redman on May 21, 2020, 07:32:53 AM
I couldn't do that to them.
Title: Re: living in lockdown
Post by: Stwood on May 21, 2020, 07:37:54 AM

The worker at ours said they have a lot of DT show up there. Not necessarily the bristol stuff, but lots of canned goods.

I think ours has opened back up. It closed in March sometime. Lack of donations to keep up with demand.