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Title: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Roundabouts on June 05, 2011, 09:31:58 PM
Just got back from a late mini food run 8:pm on a Sun.  As I pulled into the parking lot I got a sense of being empty. Weird but I was so tired from digging all day thought it was me.  Went down the bread isle a few empty spots no big deal.  Dairy empty spots but they had sales going on.  Frozen food isle empty spots and things very low.  Meat dept lower than I have ever seen except after I hit it on a big sale.  Produce dept 25% or more empty and very very low on every thing.  Same canned goods cereal cleaners.  I asked the lady at check out what the deal was and she said we are having big sales and everyone is BarBQing.  The sales were not that good at all so poor in fact I hadn't planned on shopping that store this week.  Nice weather? The ice beer and soda were all normal stocked.   Went to the drug store next door and hmmm their shelves empty too. 

I have been late shopping several times and have never seen either store so low on products.  Maybe on a blue moon for a super sale item but never like it was tonight.  I told my hubby I sure as hell hope this is not a sight we have to get use to.  The only thing different going on here is it didn't rain today and was over 75F.  Of course I guess I could have missed something?   

Any one else have this experience?  OH $3.39 for a head of red lettuce very small and wilted non organic glad I grow my own!!  Over $6.00 for a loaf of decent bread.  Glad I can bake my own.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: FromScratchWoman on June 06, 2011, 08:09:04 AM
yes! All of the stores in our area except one has pretty bare shelves rotten over priced produce and cheap bread which is usually .99 is now averaging 1.79$ a block of off brand cheese 18.99 forget about something of quality..the one store that doesn't seem to be affected is an Adventist market and I think it has to do with the fact that they don't sell meat...so they really focus on fresh cheap produce and are a bulk bin type store..
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: mash on June 06, 2011, 09:41:01 AM
Been noticing the same thing in Aus. The most obvious ones are the little independent Mom-and-Pop stores, looks like the shelves are only 1/2 full most of the time.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Roundabouts on June 06, 2011, 10:38:12 AM
So where are you located? I am in the Washington 20min east of Portland oregon
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: MTUCache on June 06, 2011, 10:42:56 AM
Assuming that you're dealing with the big national chain stores, this may be as simple as when you're going and how their deliveries are scheduled.

It's been more than a decade since I worked at a grocery store (during my high school years), but I distinctly remember around holiday weekends and during the summer that our stock would get drained really quickly and we'd constantly be answering questions about when things would be re-stocked. Since we got our standard grocery deliveries three nights per week (dairy/frozen/produce/bread/chips/pop were separate deliveries) there would generally be at least one evening per week when things were looking very bleak up and down the aisles, as it had been upwards of 48 hours since our last truck.

But, that's not to say these things aren't involved. Just-in-time delivery of goods is dependent on a lot of things going right. Not only does the food have to be ready and available at the right price, the trucks need to be full of diesel and rolling.

Take a few shortages on key ingredients, mix in some high supplier costs and some packaging issues, combine that with diesel prices making trucking less profitable, and you could very easily see some empty shelves on a routine basis.

I can imagine a time in the very near future when people are scheduling their shopping time around when they hear the trucks are bringing the food, with grocery stores scrambling to have enough staff on hand to stock shelves during a few hour rush first thing in the morning before everything is picked over again. Add a forecasted major weather event to that scenario and you're teetering close to food riots without even considering the hyper-inflation angle.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ncjeeper on June 06, 2011, 10:46:37 AM
I usually shop at the wal-mart super center 20 minutes away because they have the cheapest prices. I only needed a few things yesterday so went to the local foodlion store like 5 minutes away. Wow did I get sticker shock on their food prices. They seemed to have stocked shelves but man were the prices incredibly high. I couldnt afford to shop there regularly.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: SuperDuty on June 06, 2011, 11:04:49 AM
I've been shopping loss-leader deals especially hard for several months now.  These are sales that, in my area anyway, are usually on Wednesday's and Thursday's every week.  The ads come out on Tuesday and the sales start the next day.  I thought it was to get people into the stores during that I would expect are traditionally slow business days.  I had been going by after work, at about 5:00 pm and finding a lot of the stuff gone already.  So I started going by on the way in to work instead.  What I found many times when I got there early was that a lot of the retirees were already sitting in the store's cafe's having coffee, and with full bags of the sale deals!  So I think that's where it was going.  :)  That is the report from my area (Kansas City) at least.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: FromScratchWoman on June 06, 2011, 06:44:12 PM
{~~ about four hours east of Portland,close to Pendleton..
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on June 06, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
Here, as of today, the inventory level at my usual grocery store is at its normal level. They do have the occasional item they are short on, but all in all, shelves are full and well stocked.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Bonnieblue2A on June 06, 2011, 07:50:42 PM
I notice that here in the heartland dairy and bread shelves go empty much faster and stay at least partially empty longer than I recall seeing in the past. Those are the only shelves/food groups of any concern I've noticed empty or partially empty shelves consistently in the past 6 months.

I have some canned evaporated milk and some powdered milk held back for just such occasions. Additionally, using the canned evaporated milk makes for less expensive coffee creamer than buying the fresh 1/2 & 1/2.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: jasperg357 on June 06, 2011, 08:08:27 PM
I drive a truck for a living so I do most my shopping at Wal-Marts that allow truck parking. I haven't seen any shortages in the grocery areas but I have seen were the Equate brands and some name brands in there pharmacy sections have been low are out of stock.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Nicodemus on June 07, 2011, 07:47:50 AM
Our local grocery stores have a couple of different sale schedules, Wednesday to Tuesday, Sunday to Saturday and so on. Usually the first day of the sales is when the most people shop and when food stocks seem to be furthest down. Since they wait until the overnight crew comes in to restock, the first evening of a sale always looks the worst. At 8:00 PM on Sunday, this might be what you are witnessing.

Other than that, our produce is heading into peak season here in this agricultural area (June-September), so we're starting to see the most produce and cheapest prices that we'll see all year.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on June 09, 2011, 06:36:06 AM
I'll have to take a look next time I'm in a grocery store.  I do most of my shopping at Costco and haven't noticed any shortages last time I was there (about five weeks ago).  I guess that's just another benefit of prepping; fewer trips to the grocery store so I have less to things to worry me. ;)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: amanadoo on June 09, 2011, 01:33:45 PM
The regular grocery stores around here (Puget Sound area) seem to be business as usual, but it seems like there is always ONE item that is sold out. Recently, it was green tea at Trader Joes.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Cedar on June 09, 2011, 02:48:57 PM
I buy a bunch of my groceries for storing from the Grocery Outlet and although the shelves are full...

Rice is up to $11 for 20#, versus the $6 it was about 8 weeks ago
Milk was $3.09 a gallon for whole and it is usually $1.99
Cheese was about double what I normally pick it up for.

Cedar
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Herbalpagan on June 09, 2011, 02:56:45 PM
You might be seeing several things:
-stores are feeling the pinch and may not be stocking as fully as normal.
-manufacturers have notified of a price increase and stores are letting stock run out so they don't have price conflicts when that happens.
-people in your area aren't buying as much and the store is holding off ordering till things pick up OR they bought more than usual and stock is down.
-there's also the chance that you have just hit the stores in between shopments/after sales or something.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Bradbn4 on June 09, 2011, 05:35:16 PM
I noticed about 6 months back the local CostCo food area seemed to have most of the upper shelf were bare.
What I think happened was whey were about to do a major shuffle on location of goods & it was a seasonal shift.

About a month later - different location for food & what food items that they were storing.  About 60% of the shelf's were fully stocked.

I will admit it did however spook me a bit, I did check out other stores to make sure it was not wide spread.    I figured I might as well stock up on my favorite items just to cover my bases.



Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Roundabouts on June 10, 2011, 01:53:23 PM
Have been back to the store a few days ago. There were some empty spots and stock was low on some items. No where near what it was.  A lady I spoke with didn't know why it was so low.  It was very unusual.  I am stepping up preps the best I can it never seems good enough.  hubby still wants to take $2000 out of savings and do a mega trip.  Yes dear I know it is an investment.  Savings is for ER or something that will give us a fast big no risk long term return.  His response MEAT.  I say only if you buy breeding stock.  Will just keep an eye on it and keep buying bits at a time.  Focus on the garden honey add another plot!

Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: loyalty4eva on July 08, 2011, 09:12:52 AM
Well I thought I would jump in here and talk for at least one groc store. Super target is were I work at we do massive sales during the day and litterly can't keep up on stocking during the day because we have fewer employes now with the econmy to do these things that is probebly the biggest reason the shelves are always empty when you go into a place they probebly have the stuff int he back and don't have enough people to look for it or even put it on the shelves some of it could be that the things arn't getting ordered now thats the managers of the stores fault. I recieve and unload trucks in logistics of target and the trucks are getting bigger and bigger each year we are takeing fewer but still about 1 a day for a big super target + vendors that come with their stuff also everyday.

Prices for food are going up and have went up latly as well its funny when you see a sale price on something and a week earlyer their was a tag that said normal price and it was 10cents cheaper then the current sales price. Buy now people!
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on July 08, 2011, 09:56:51 AM
Some 'shortages' are seasonal. For instance, we have just passed the Independence Day weekend. As you know, many people have cookouts, picnics, etc.

We went to our usual grocery store on Tuesday, July5th. One of the things we wanted was a bag of potato chips. The store has one side of an entire aisle devoted to this type of snack food. There wasn't a chip of any description to be had. Wednesday, the same thing. Finally, on Thursday, the Frito-Lay delivery guy was in, stacking chips as fast as he could with harried look. This was the third day he had been working as fast as he could go to get all of the stores he serviced stocked back up. Being like I am, I said hello to him and asked him how is business? He said, "Too good. I might get everyone caught up by Saturday."
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Rhino on August 15, 2011, 03:42:52 AM
I live in Idaho, Boise area and work for a West Coast convenience store distributor. I drive truck for there routes to Oregon, Eugene to Portland and everything in between. I too have noticed that alot of the local store's ie...Walmart have been going thru a drought on the shelves. But funny that the gas station stores are getting heavier and heavier every week. My loads average 30,000 lbs 2 times a week. So why are they buying the more expensive conv. store brands then shopping at walmart or safeway? It is odd, but there seems to be no end to the conv. store loads.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on August 15, 2011, 11:35:51 AM
So why are they buying the more expensive conv. store brands then shopping at walmart or safeway? It is odd, but there seems to be no end to the conv. store loads.
Interesting.  I wonder to what degree folks that are just getting by would rather shop on an as-needed basis vs. buying more all at once.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Pathfinder on August 15, 2011, 11:55:35 AM
Been noticing the same thing in Aus. The most obvious ones are the little independent Mom-and-Pop stores, looks like the shelves are only 1/2 full most of the time.

Not just the Mom and Pops. Our local Wally World remodeled the food side of the store, and appeared to take out 2 entire row of shelving. Lots more space in the aisles, so you don't have to run a gauntlet around kids, other carts, floor displays, et al. - at least not as badly. But that means they eliminated a huge amount of shelf space, and have cut back on the diversity of brands for any product line as well. It is certainly cheaper to get rid of products or brands that don't sell (for them at least) but it is a cutback too. And even after the change, there are often times openings in the shelves where products used to be.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Rhino on August 15, 2011, 03:55:47 PM
Interesting.  I wonder to what degree folks that are just getting by would rather shop on an as-needed basis vs. buying more all at once.
I don't know, I think it's the europeans that are starting to rub off on us with there shopping habits. LOL! It is interesting. But for the area, it's kind of odd. Oregon usually is stable. But this last 10 months have been very odd.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: dani3077 on September 11, 2011, 10:03:48 AM
Something to also consider. There is a 'new fad' taking over. Extreme couponing. I am not sure if anyone here has seen the show. (I only watched one episode) Some people are parring up coupons and sales to get items next to nothing-then clearing the shelves. This show started in Sept of 2010. It got really crazy in March/April with several thousand people starting to try this. Some people on the show were getting $2000 worth of stuff for less than $10.

I have been couponing similar to this-coupons, sales, next to nothing prices for about 2 years, but it got really crazy when the show came out. (No I am not one of THOSE extreme couponers)

Also could be change in packaging. Several things that were low or out at my stores have returned with new packages. (less in them too!)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on September 11, 2011, 12:47:49 PM
I have noticed the reduction of product as well. Example: Ritz crackers - from 4 "tubes" to 3 and fewer crackers in each. 
It will be (already?) happening to everything soon enough.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on September 11, 2011, 03:20:53 PM
I have noticed the reduction of product as well. Example: Ritz crackers - from 4 "tubes" to 3 and fewer crackers in each. 
It will be (already?) happening to everything soon enough.
Yep, my latest package of Fig Newtons was 14 oz. and it's always been 16 oz..  And that's on top of a 25% price increase since 2007. 
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ncjeeper on September 11, 2011, 06:26:48 PM
A dozen of large eggs went from 1.48 last week to 1.98 this week.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Truik on September 11, 2011, 06:46:10 PM
I have been couponing similar to this-coupons, sales, next to nothing prices for about 2 years, but it got really crazy when the show came out. (No I am not one of THOSE extreme couponers)

I recently caught a marathon run of these "Extreme Couponer" shows and it was impressive how people walked out with hundreds of dollars worth of prep (groceries) for little or nothing.

I'm not an extreme couponer, either...but I wish I WAS!

It did get me to going to coupon.com where I print coupons and also add discounts to my shopper's "rewards" card. You don't have to register the card for it to work and sometimes the added savings really pay off. They had boxes of dog biscuits normally $4.00 on a BOGO (buy-one-get-one free) and I had my card setup with a $1.00 off so I got $8.00 of dog biscuits for $3.00

Unfortunately, it was limit one deal per customer per trip. I meant to go back later that evening (the store is near the house) but they had already sold out!

Should have put the groceries in the truck and went right back in on the earlier trip.



Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ShannonB on September 13, 2011, 07:13:46 PM
Truik - one thing too, if it is your normal store and you have a fav cashier, ask them if you can do one than one transaction. My local Albertsons only doubles/triples 4 like coupons. If they arent busy and i am not in a rush, the cashier will do two transactions for me so i can buy 8 items instead of 4. Did this last week to get 8 free bottles of dish soap. I love free and if its free, its for me!

I use coupons to stock a LOT of my preps. Especially health and hygein stuff. I just did a quick count last night and we have 185 disposable razors. With 3 of us shaving legs in the house, it will last us a while. I also have 72 toothbrushes, with 4 in our house (2 in braces) that will give us each a new brush every month or i can stretch it to 18 months if we go 6 weeks between changing brushes.  I spent $0.00 for all of these.

I do agree the EC show is helping to clear out shelves in my store. If i know i am going to get a lot of an item, i just ask the store to order it for me, that way others who may not be using coupons like i am can still get what they need. I wont really get concerned about non perishable stuff until they tell me they cant get something.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on September 13, 2011, 07:32:48 PM
My son just went to the store for me to get eggs.  When he came home, he was complaining about the price of the eggs. $1.84 for large.  He said that the extra large (that I like) no longer exist there.  :'(

But, there is a "chicken farmer" along the route that I drive who sells eggs.  ;D I saw  ;D 5 today, roaming around his yard.  I don't know how much he charges, but even if they are smaller than I get at the store, I will get some from him (them).
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: summer98 on September 14, 2011, 05:46:13 AM
This is something I've been noticing (and loudly complaining to K about) for the past two years or so. More shelves going bare, more remodeling to reduce shelf space, more size changes and price increases. The milk we buy has gone up by 70 cents in the past six months. The local Kroger has more bare shelves than ever; there's some things that have been out for at least a week.

K recently had to do the weekly shopping run while I was sick. (We do prep, of course, but we buy milk, eggs, fresh veggies and the like on a weekly basis.) My lovely spouse has been hearing me complain about the price increases and didn't believe it, but K came home with sticker shock!
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on September 14, 2011, 08:25:31 AM
My son just went to the store for me to get eggs.  When he came home, he was complaining about the price of the eggs. $1.84 for large.  He said that the extra large (that I like) no longer exist there.  :'(

But, there is a "chicken farmer" along the route that I drive who sells eggs.  ;D I saw  ;D 5 today, roaming around his yard.  I don't know how much he charges, but even if they are smaller than I get at the store, I will get some from him (them).
I was investing in an egg company for a while so I started tracking the price of eggs locally.  Here's what I found for 12 large:
5/12/08-2 dozen for $3 (sale)
6/14/08-$1.58
7/22/08-$1.72
9/9/08-$1.52
11/10/08-$1.42
3/23/09-$1.26
7/21/09-$0.88
11/09/09-$1.07
12/28/10-$1.69

No, it wasn't at regular intervals, but just something I jotted down when I thought about it in my Blackberry.  About the only conclusion I could come to is that there's a lot of volitility in the egg market.  Your securing a local source for eggs seems like a much better choice anyway.  Not only does the money stay in your local economy, you also know how the eggs are cared for, which is something the rest of us still buying from the store don't want to know.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Cedar on September 14, 2011, 08:25:52 AM
The milk we buy has gone up by 70 cents in the past six months.

Expect it to go even higher a few months down the road where you will be happy to pay the prices you are today. That is what the agriculture future reports are saying.

Cedar
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on September 14, 2011, 06:32:33 PM
I was investing in an egg company for a while so I started tracking the price of eggs locally.  Here's what I found for 12 large:
5/12/08-2 dozen for $3 (sale)
6/14/08-$1.58
7/22/08-$1.72
9/9/08-$1.52
11/10/08-$1.42
3/23/09-$1.26
7/21/09-$0.88
11/09/09-$1.07
12/28/10-$1.69

No, it wasn't at regular intervals, but just something I jotted down when I thought about it in my Blackberry.  About the only conclusion I could come to is that there's a lot of volitility in the egg market.  Your securing a local source for eggs seems like a much better choice anyway.  Not only does the money stay in your local economy, you also know how the eggs are cared for, which is something the rest of us still buying from the store don't want to know.

There was a story a few years ago about a store (can't remember where or name of store) that would take the "expired" eggs (they had a date "stamped" on them) to the backroom, wash off the ink ane re-stamp them with a new date and replaced them on the shelf. (I think it was on CBS)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on September 14, 2011, 06:52:41 PM
There was a story a few years ago about a store (can't remember where or name of store) that would take the "expired" eggs (they had a date "stamped" on them) to the backroom, wash off the ink ane re-stamp them with a new date and replaced them on the shelf. (I think it was on CBS)
Yep, it's bad.  A few years back a local station had home video of a major grocery store leaving pallets of eggs sitting in an unrefrigerated storeroom for four straight days during the summer.  The defense of the grocery store was that the area was air conditioned to a safe temperature.  Sorry, but the USDA says:

Quote
Safe Storage in Stores
At the store, choose Grade A or AA eggs with clean, uncracked shells. Make sure they've been refrigerated in the store. Any bacteria present in an egg can multiply quickly at room temperature. When purchasing egg products or substitutes, look for containers that are tightly sealed.

Bringing Eggs Home from the Store
Take eggs straight home and store them immediately in the refrigerator set at 40 °F or below. Keep them in their carton and place them in the coldest part of the refrigerator, not in the door.

Unless their backroom was air conditioned to 45F, that's just screwed up!
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on September 14, 2011, 07:20:07 PM
And "they" wonder why people get sick from them. ("You left your egg salad out, unrefrigerated too long" eg: picnic. Blaming the consumer)

Add to that the crowded "living" conditions that the poor chickens have to live in.

When my mother worked in a grocery store, the butcher would remove old/moldy bacon, rinse with vinegar and scrub off mold and return it to the shelf.  >:(
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on September 14, 2011, 08:10:55 PM
It was one thing to have them sit on store shelves for 2-3 days before refrigeration, but considering that now things may sit in a warehouse for a week, before getting to the store for a week in the back room, before getting to the shelf...  That's a lot of time for bacteria to reproduce.  And as you said, then there's the chicken's living conditions.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on September 14, 2011, 09:35:14 PM
Yep! Growing your own sounds better all the time!
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Archeofuturist on September 14, 2011, 09:42:09 PM
We sell our surplus eggs at the local farmers market for 6 dollars a dozen. We always sell out within the first 20 minutes.

We have to charge that much to simply pay for the feed. Considering costs of raising chicks with no production, molts, etc... its barely a break even kind of operation in a GOOD month.

Upside is we eat a boatload of our own fresh, free range, organic eggs. So we come out ahead on that deal.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on September 14, 2011, 09:59:37 PM
I miss REAL eggs!  :'(
Several years ago, the parents of one of the kids on my bus raised chickens and sold the eggs. I used to buy some when I took him home.  ;D
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Halyna on October 25, 2011, 01:26:20 PM
I've been doing a lot of shopping the past couple of days and I'm getting a little uneasy about things.
1) Went to Tractor Supply:  Everytime I go there they always tell me they are out of canning supplies...  I told them I've been coming every other week and you always tell me that.  Guess, I'd just better shop somewhere else from now on. (I was nice about it, but truly ...)
2) Went to Walmart.  I couldn't believe their store brand of bread, hamburger buns & hot dog buns went from 99c to $1.25.  And that's the Walmart brand! 
3) Went to Giant Eagle, though their bread was still 99c, a good bit of the shelves were empty where they had advertised specials.  I asked them if they had a problem with employees (as I was looking for a part time job & would stock their shelves).  They just said they'd have to look into it.
But I think the worst part was months ago, when I was ordering dehydrated foods on line, I couldnt believe I was on a 30-day waiting list (if they couldnt get it to me by then, they'd cancel my back order).  e.g. powdered milk.  I ended up ordering 1 case from 3 different supplies and after continuous follow up I did get them but I had to wait months.  Finally one supplier told me the Feds were buying it all, placing huge orders, and we had to wait until that order was filled.  Other long-term food storage told me similar things:  one said the govt was buying it all up and shipping it to Japan because of their earthquake, another one said the govt was buying it up to stock the under ground bunkers in Colorado.  (then 9/26 you hear Obama is suddenly in the Denver area...but nobody could tell why).
If that doesn't tell you 'somethings up' I doubt if much else will.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Pathfinder on October 25, 2011, 07:43:09 PM
Peanut butter has jumped from $7 for the really large jar (2#?) to $9. No chunky either, just (feh, yuck!) creamy.  ;)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on October 25, 2011, 08:30:50 PM
Oh, no! Gotta have crunchy - EXTRA CRUNCHY.  :clap: (JIF)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: LibertyBelle on October 25, 2011, 09:07:22 PM
When it comes to peanut butter, we were already paying more as we get the "all natural" since middle son is severely allergic to rape seed oil...it gives him severe stomach cramps and vomiting for hours.  I can't wait to get enough land to plant my own peanuts.  We grew them when I was a kid (they are easy to grow) and there is nothing on the shelves that taste as good as fresh homemade peanut butter - think store bought tomatoes vs home grown garden fresh ones.  And when you make PB yourself, you can make it as crunchy or as smooth as you like. :)   
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Truik on October 25, 2011, 09:37:51 PM
I saw a 2.5 pound jar of peanut butter in Tom Thumb yesterday for almost $9.00

Next to it was a 3.5 jar of peanut butter for almost $12.00

Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Morning Sunshine on October 26, 2011, 06:52:01 AM
When it comes to peanut butter, we were already paying more as we get the "all natural" since middle son is severely allergic to rape seed oil...it gives him severe stomach cramps and vomiting for hours.  I can't wait to get enough land to plant my own peanuts.  We grew them when I was a kid (they are easy to grow) and there is nothing on the shelves that taste as good as fresh homemade peanut butter - think store bought tomatoes vs home grown garden fresh ones.  And when you make PB yourself, you can make it as crunchy or as smooth as you like. :)

This is on my list.... but I need a big enough green house for that, since we are looking far above the mason-dixon (we like snow :P)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: LibertyBelle on October 26, 2011, 11:01:52 AM
This is on my list.... but I need a big enough green house for that, since we are looking far above the mason-dixon (we like snow :P)

What's your USDA gardening zone? I'm in Zone 5a, although we've had temps dip to -30°F with wind chill even lower.  They need about 130 days from germination to harvest, but if your area gets less than that, you can extend your growing season by starting the seeds indoors and using row covers. And you can put down black plastic on your garden in the spring in order to heat up the ground faster.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Morning Sunshine on October 26, 2011, 11:47:03 AM
What's your USDA gardening zone? I'm in Zone 5a, although we've had temps dip to -30°F with wind chill even lower.  They need about 130 days from germination to harvest, but if your area gets less than that, you can extend your growing season by starting the seeds indoors and using row covers. And you can put down black plastic on your garden in the spring in order to heat up the ground faster.
sweet!  we are currently, well, I do not remember. I want to say 5-6.  but we will (hopefully) be moving north soon for our forever homestead.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: chickchoc on December 20, 2011, 09:30:06 PM
Here in northern central Michigan our gorcery stores usually have "enough", but it's certainly less stock than I've seen in past years.  For loss leader sales, forget about getting any if you go other than the first day.  DH had been doing the majority of grocery shopping for the past couple of years and I didn't realize how much prices had increased.  Sheesh!  I just read on Yahoo News that the latest snow storm has severely affected beef producers, so I plan to stock up on beef when I can.  I usually look at the "Manager's Special" bin first.  These are packages of meat "sell by" dates are coming very quickly.  If I place these in the freezer immediately, they are just fine for several months.  This is the only way I can afford to buy meat at Krogers and Meijers; I don't trust the Walmart in town.  Fortunately we also have a couple of meat and vegetable stores whose stock is usually much fresher and sometimes cheaper than the big-box groceries. 
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: jm_sol on December 21, 2011, 06:29:01 AM
having recently moved back to small town texas, i have found our local markets to have fewer brand name items, more generics and latino brands. we have a changing demographic here i suppose.. and most texans believe mexican food is our regional cuisine. The fresh produce at my local mom and pop grocery used to be pretty reliable but nowdays.. its just bruised, dry. damaged basics. thank goodness for gardening. the meat dept stocks groundmeat. a few steaks (tough and expensive) and pork cuts. the fish and fowl look to be vac pack not fresh cut. and a good bit off chicken backs, wings and organ meats. neck bones and other cheapest type meats ..It used to be that our local butcher did the cutting and wrapping. such a shame. ahhh well my age and memory may have romanticized the facts. the grocery shelves are barely stocked with off goods at premium prices.. ,most of our town is either retired, or young under or un employed. a large latino population and a few of us mid lifers. we are a rural community so the farmers market consists of neighbors trading and bartering. its kinda sad to see a once thriving community wither. the availability of basic needs seems to be met in the larger towns some 20 miles away ( where the jobs are at lower pay and fewer benefits) perhaps our time in distant major city has skewed my reality. I can certainly see a major panic if distribution to these small communities becomes a problem. stocking up and planting more garden here seems to be the way to go.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: endurance on December 21, 2011, 06:56:39 AM
..It used to be that our local butcher did the cutting and wrapping. such a shame. ahhh well my age and memory may have romanticized the facts.
It's only been in the last 15 years that the local butchers have disappeared off the landscape of the supermarket.  It's become so much cheaper to have massive meat processing facilities that use production line methods to process animals that the single butcher that does everything is a thing of the past in all but the local butcher shops (which now seem exorbitantly priced by comparison).  Butchering is becoming a lost art and if there's ever a major SHTF there's a lot of meat that will go to waste, along with a serious decline in the sanitation of the process, until the art is recovered.  That's just one more reason to learn to butcher your own meat.  My cuts may not be pretty, but I'm at least on the learning curve.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Cedar on December 21, 2011, 09:34:05 AM
It's become so much cheaper to have massive meat processing facilities that use production line methods to process animals that the single butcher that does everything is a thing of the past in all but the local butcher shops (which now seem exorbitantly priced by comparison). 
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Not to mention the work is not out for them as much, as less and less people are raising their own animals for butchering as less and less people are on land to raise an animal/s.

Cedar
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on December 21, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
I just got back from the grocery store (Kroger.) They must have gotten a couple of trucks in today because they were loaded.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: jm_sol on December 22, 2011, 08:13:53 PM
kudos to learning to butcher.. i have been helping the DH with cleaning game. learning to dress and clean deer and wild hogs has brought me a much needed skill set. maybe not the same cuts as the much loved and remembered butcher .. but i am getting the hang of things thanks to youtube
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: nkawtg on December 22, 2011, 09:23:26 PM
No troubles here in Vegas.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: dani3077 on January 03, 2012, 01:33:11 AM
Cream cheese at Walmart -great value brand-is now $1.98. Philly cream cheese is 2.28? (I think on that last one. I know it was over 2.20). After it just being .98, I about passed out looking at the new prices!
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Morning Sunshine on January 03, 2012, 03:16:30 AM
Cream cheese at Walmart -great value brand-is now $1.98. Philly cream cheese is 2.28? (I think on that last one. I know it was over 2.20). After it just being .98, I about passed out looking at the new prices!

those are the reg prices for cream cheese here in no. utah.  well, the store brand where I shop anyway (not wal-mart, I avoid when I can.  I hate the design of the parking lots.  seriously, that is why I avoid.  I cannot stand parking there!)
anyway, back to the generic cream cheese (which in taste tests at our house came out on top of Philly).  it generally goes on sale about every 3 months for .98, and I buy 12 boxes.  as long as you don't open it, it stays good that long.  and I don't have to buy it at twice that when I need it.  plus, we always have cream cheese when we need it.   ;D
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on January 03, 2012, 06:58:45 AM
Son went to the store yesterday - No 25# bags of sugar, No family size teabags. He will go again on Wednesday.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Shaunypoo on January 03, 2012, 07:02:56 AM
Did the shopping last night.  No milk.  Of course we did get about 1/4 of an inch of snow here in southwest Ohio, so the city all but shut down.  Must have been a major panic.  A note on the dairy door said "2 gallons per customer".  Didn't need it so much, so no big deal, probably a shipping problem.  But the note made me chuckle.

Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on January 03, 2012, 07:26:11 AM
Well, even all the way back in 1957 the milk man and the bread man delivered everyday to my Grandpa's grocery store. (I know, because the milk man always let me get up into the back of his truck and gave me a pint of chocolate milk and the bread man always gave me a cherry fried pie.)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ag2 on January 03, 2012, 09:31:00 AM
I've been tracking the price of a block of 32 oz mild chedder cheese at a local Kroger store for awhile.  I thought I had a great idea to just snap a picture of the cheese and the sticker (shock) price every time that I am there.  I've been doing this for over two years.  For some reason I have lost a couple of years' worth of this data.  (Sheesh, and I call myself an IT guy)  I started snapping pictures of the cheese when I saw the price rise above $4.50 a couple of years ago because I wanted to see if I was just turning into a grumpy old man (data indicates this still may be true) or, if indeed, food prices were rising and remaining high.  Here's the results from just the past 6 months:

        loyalty card      regular price
07/17/2011 7.49      8.49
08/6/2011  7.99      9.49
10/9/2011 8.99      9.59
10/22/2011 6.99      9.99
11/16/2011  6.99   10.29
12/5/2011  6.99      10.29
12/30/2011 7.99      10.29

At Wally World, I also noticed the Value brand of apple juice jump 12% overnight.  Many cereal boxes have been reduced in size or weight.  The regular size bottle of Miracle Whip has just jumped to $5.69 at Kroger.

This year, the 1lb price of pasta Barilla spaghetti past was exactly $1.00 for many months at a local Kroger store.  Then overnight it jumped to $1.25 and they had the audacity to display a sticker "New Low Price!".  So I HAD to ask the store manager about this. I politely told her that the price was $1.00 last week.  If it went up 25%, how is this a "new low price".  She stammered and gave me an answer that sounded like she should be in congress.  "Well, based on our costs, it should be even higher, but we managed to reduce it from what it should be, and from what our competitors are charging."  I told her that her customers would probably appreciate a less deceptive approach to dealing with prices. She directed me to track down their marketing department online.

Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Shaunypoo on January 03, 2012, 10:02:05 AM
Since  I have done the weekly grocery shopping for the last 7+ years, it is hard to get my wife to sometimes appreciate the growing cost of doing the shopping.  Of all of the examples I can give, the best one is when bananas went from $.49/pound to $.54/pound.  I told her bananas went up 5 cents a pound and she says "so what?"  That is a 10% increase, and it is one of the more moderate increases I come home with. 

Other than getting gouged, there hasn't been anything particularly strange at the grocery store.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: technicalanarchy on January 03, 2012, 10:50:04 AM
Ive noticed a serious rise in price on about e everything. Not many canned goods below a dollar a can of anything. The spread between store brands and name brands seems less too (i have no proof though)!

I wonder how much of it has to do with tbe SNAP provram. I think without it there would be a lot less demand for food, people would starve, but i think the billions of influx from the program have had an effect on prices. Im not saying the program is good or bad,only that billions of dollars has an effect.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ag2 on January 03, 2012, 02:45:49 PM
I wonder how much of it has to do with tbe SNAP provram. I think without it there would be a lot less demand for food, people would starve, but i think the billions of influx from the program have had an effect on prices. Im not saying the program is good or bad,only that billions of dollars has an effect.

{Struck a nerve here, so I'm stepping up onto my soap box for a minute......nuthin' personal}

I don't think people would starve.  My mom works in a welfare office.  She says the majority of people who come in for "benefits" are overweight, have iPhones, their kids have cell phones, their kids are sporting name brand clothes, etc.  She catches a large percentage of them trying to cheat the system too.  (Unfortunately, her county can only blacklist them for the remainder of that calendar year.)

The ones who truly need the program are willing to get up early, take the bus to the county training programs and work hard.  My mom, in turn, works hard for them too.  My mom has been on both sides of her desk (a recipient of these benefits) and has seen it all.

Heck, as I drive by the "project" housing in town, I see a dish mounted on the roof for almost every tenant!  What a waste of our tax dollars!

Starving?  Not in this country.  I have personally seen desperation (shanty towns, hunger, homes made from pallets, etc) in many other countries, but not here in the US.

{Steps off of soap box}
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: flagtag on January 03, 2012, 03:01:26 PM
I agree ag2. 
I drive by the Public Aid office every day on the way to my job (a block away) and see the same type of people with their "toys" that your mother (and you) do. I have worked with women who are getting aid and who are living with their children's fathers (many of whom have very well paying jobs). So, they are getting paid for working, getting public aid (foodstamps/medial/housing) AND living off the father's income as well. 

Then there are the people who REALLY need help but can't get it. Go figure!  >:(
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: technicalanarchy on January 03, 2012, 03:32:08 PM
I pretty much agree with you ag2 i was just trying to put the point out there that i think the SNAP program has an effect on food prices without dragging the morality of the program into it. Should have said "some" ive help a christian relief program in the hills and it gave a new meaning to the word poor for me. But yes the SNAP program frees up money for games and tvs for too many, ive seen that too.

In the rental range my wife and i are in we compete with section 8 renters and i know we are paying about 200 a month more than if there was no section 8 program to compete against.

I suppose my point is taxes are only part of the cost of so many "social programs" and i think food cost as been raised as such. If you look at the growth of the SNAP program over the past 3 years and the coralating rise in food prices. Just putting that out there.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ag2 on January 03, 2012, 04:35:06 PM
I pretty much agree with you ag2 i was just trying to put the point out there that i think the SNAP program has an effect on food prices without dragging the morality of the program into it. Should have said "some" ive help a christian relief program in the hills and it gave a new meaning to the word poor for me. But yes the SNAP program frees up money for games and tvs for too many, ive seen that too.

In the rental range my wife and i are in we compete with section 8 renters and i know we are paying about 200 a month more than if there was no section 8 program to compete against.

I suppose my point is taxes are only part of the cost of so many "social programs" and i think food cost as been raised as such. If you look at the growth of the SNAP program over the past 3 years and the coralating rise in food prices. Just putting that out there.

If the population suddenly increased, I might agree with you.  We all eat. The food budget comes out of our paycheck or out of our benefits check.  It still comes to our table.  The SNAP/FSP program has grown, no doubt.  Some of us earn our own living while some of us use more assistance in the recent years.  We have seen a shift in the number of people using benefits, but not necessarily a growth in the number of people who eat.  Since we all eat three meals a day, I don't see how the SNAP program could put such a burden on the demand of food.

I have seen a number of local restaurants close their doors in the last few years due to the economy.  If anything, I would think that the overall amount of food consumed has been reduced (restaurants waste much food by serving large portions) during this recession.  People eat out less and people are more frugal than in years past.

I think that commodity prices and the weakened US dollar are generally attributed to the food inflation we see right now.  Some have put the blame on gas prices, but I don't buy that because gas prices have generally fallen since peaking in 2008.  I could be completely wrong and I'm always open to learning something new.

Our little rabbit trail here is putting us a risk of getting a wagging finger and a tisk tisk from our moderator if we veer off track too much.   :)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: dani3077 on January 03, 2012, 08:00:34 PM
those are the reg prices for cream cheese here in no. utah.  well, the store brand where I shop anyway (not wal-mart, I avoid when I can.  I hate the design of the parking lots.  seriously, that is why I avoid.  I cannot stand parking there!)
anyway, back to the generic cream cheese (which in taste tests at our house came out on top of Philly).  it generally goes on sale about every 3 months for .98, and I buy 12 boxes.  as long as you don't open it, it stays good that long.  and I don't have to buy it at twice that when I need it.  plus, we always have cream cheese when we need it.   ;D

Regular price here (Arkansas) is 1.29-1.38. For generic. I only buy philly if I have a coupon to make it cheaper than generic, or if it is on sale cheaper. I also buy several when on sale and wait until the next sale. I was just browsing and seen that-I for sure did not buy any of it!! Dairy and egg prices have been going up, so I should not be so shocked. (Milk 3.89-4.59 a gallon, eggs 1.69-1.99 for a dozen large)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: technicalanarchy on January 03, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
If the population suddenly increased, I might agree with you.  We all eat. The food budget comes out of our paycheck or out of our benefits check.  It still comes to our table.  The SNAP/FSP program has grown, no doubt.  Some of us earn our own living while some of us use more assistance in the recent years.  We have seen a shift in the number of people using benefits, but not necessarily a growth in the number of people who eat.  Since we all eat three meals a day, I don't see how the SNAP program could put such a burden on the demand of food.

I have seen a number of local restaurants close their doors in the last few years due to the economy.  If anything, I would think that the overall amount of food consumed has been reduced (restaurants waste much food by serving large portions) during this recession.  People eat out less and people are more frugal than in years past.

I think that commodity prices and the weakened US dollar are generally attributed to the food inflation we see right now.  Some have put the blame on gas prices, but I don't buy that because gas prices have generally fallen since peaking in 2008.  I could be completely wrong and I'm always open to learning something new.

Our little rabbit trail here is putting us a risk of getting a wagging finger and a tisk tisk from our moderator if we veer off track too much.   :)

The Op stated on the 5th of June about food stuffs on the store shelves looking raided, barren, enough to post about it and the prices rising.

I'm agreeing with both. Just giving what I think is a part of the puzzle. Should I not do that? I'm still kinda new. Loving the forums, mostly lurk.

I believe that 45 million out of 300 or so million people having an extra $133 (average, some much more, some much less) each a month to spend on food and the cards being loaded on the 1st could have an effect of emptying the shelves by the 5th and on the long term rasing prices. Another report from someone else on the 25th says something like "Shelves fine here, prices higher"

I have a good friend that is meat manager at a local grocer and you should hear him go over and over and over how he orders his meat for the 1st as opposed to 10th and after the 15th halves his order because it won't sell because the SNAP cards have usually run out by then.

We paid $3.99 for store brand milk tonight that was $3.69 just a couple of months ago.

If one has an Aldi near them that is a great place and the prices are super low and the food is pretty darn good. Bring your own bags though. Meat and milk are like anywhere, chips and canned goods and cereal is a steal.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: summer98 on January 04, 2012, 06:28:07 AM
To get this thread back on track, I would like to point out that food prices are going up due to a combination of increased demand from 3rd world countries for meat, rising input costs, and bad harvests. Grains are sold on the global market just like any other commodity; when several countries have bad harvests (as has happened in several this year) or the input costs go up (which happens every year and is getting worse), everyone who buys grains pays more. This has a cascading effect throughout the food system; bread goes up, but so does milk and other dairy products, as well as meat. Veggies are also going up thanks to smaller harvests in California and elsewhere.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: cheryl1 on January 04, 2012, 07:07:21 AM
Walmart brand milk was $2.69 per gallon yesterday, but they were completely out of 10 and 25 lb bags of sugar.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on January 04, 2012, 07:12:15 AM
I always get the 50lb bags of sugar at Costco. Yesterday, they had, literally, over a ton of it.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ncjeeper on January 04, 2012, 11:11:09 AM
Walmart brand milk was $2.69 per gallon yesterday
Thats a good price. Its like $3.69 around here.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Greywolf27 on January 04, 2012, 11:24:16 AM
I guess, if you consider the market I live in, the lack of "empty shelves" isn't all that surprising.  I live in Southern California.  I have noticed the increase in price though.  $8 for a lbs of bacon (for the premium stuff)  most apples are $1.59 upwards of $2.00 per lb.  The salad greens... holy crap... $8-14 per lbs...

I think the days of the $2.00 steak are gone :/ >:( (at least, until I get my homestead up and running)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexasGirl on January 04, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
Wow!  The cost of living is certainly high out there in CA, our SE Texas grocery prices are about half that.  I love to shop at HEB, a regional chain out of San Antone with great prices and an excellent selection.  Produce is better than the local Kroger or Walmart ChinaMart.

A couple months back I bought 10 lbs of steak on loss leader special at $2.19/lb.  The Thanksgiving turkeys were 27¢ /lb.  Everyday bananas about 44¢ / lb.  The shelves stay pretty full there, a lot more backstock than ChinaMart across the street.

~TG

Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: chickchoc on January 06, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
I just went to Kroger here in northern central Michigan.  Got a steal (for today's prices) on meat.  They had whole boneless sirloin "tip" that each ran about 14 lbs for $2.99/lb!!!  There were only FIVE in the bin and embarrassment made me leave one behind.  Thank God for a spare freezer!  On the other hand, there was a "dollar" sale and Kroger brand frozen veggies were a dollar each.  Problem was, though, that the packages had been reduced in weight from 16 oz to only 12 oz.  That's a 25% increase since last summer here.  Sheesh!!!
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ncjeeper on January 07, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
that the packages had been reduced in weight from 16 oz to only 12 oz.  That's a 25% increase since last summer here.  Sheesh!!!
Seems to be a trend. Potato chip bags used to be 6oz. Then they went to 5.5oz. Now I see most of them are 5oz.
I use cream of chicken soup in my chicken in dumplings recipe. The cans used to be 10.75oz. The ones I picked up recently are now 10.5oz.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ag2 on January 07, 2012, 04:35:46 PM
I've noticed that a number of canned items which were 16 oz are now 14.5 oz.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: FromScratchWoman on January 16, 2012, 10:35:49 AM
A note about SNAP/FSB actually they're most certainly not all filled on the first the date you get your "fill" is in accordance with the last # of you ssn(in OR anyhow), this last summer I was on SNAP until I could shift my finances around...and the whole time I had(have) a very nice phone...that I had prior to snap..also owning brand name clothing is not hard to do if you shop at thrift stores..I know that people abuse the system but probably far less than most realise...I go shopping on the first..because that's when most meat is marked way down prior to it being tossed on the 2nd, I only go shopping twice a month as I live in a very small town and have to drive to a bigger town to shop and I hate stores, yesterday on my way home from the hardware store my DH asked me to stop for somethin at wallyworld, I haven't bought food items from there in a long time WOW everything was depleted and extremely marked up..and this is a super center..it was mainly dairy product that was depleted and eggs..2# block of wallyworld cheese was 10.99 brand-name 13.99 gallon of wallyworld 2% 3.89! Whole milk 3.95! Eggs (a huge isle) was all but empty except those huge flats, I asked a fella that was fronting shelves when he would be stocking eggs(I don't need any have plenty of layers) he said they weren't getting another shipment until the end of the month besides the organic brands as he was saying this a gal changed the price tag on the "organic" cage laid eggs to 4.39 for a dozen??  I suppose it could be attributed to "storm" panic but I don't think so I mean unless a buncha people just moved here and are startled by a bit of snow..
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: KellyAnn on January 16, 2012, 01:59:53 PM
Stopped in a Walmart on Thursday and a Meijer on Sunday (regional store, like walmart but not as massive or as evil).  Both stores had almost no selection when it came to meat or fresh produce.
My local grocery store (Kroger) had a bit more variety of fruits and veg, but the actual amount of stock was really small.  Like they have oranges and maybe 4 or 5 kinds of apples, but there's only a couple dozen oranges in the bin and maybe 20 or so of each kind of apple.  It's been this way for a few weeks now, I had put it down to the time of day I was shopping, but I've been there at various times in the last week or two and they still didn't seem to have any stock.  Not to mention the potatoes (which just aren't good quality at all).
I looked for a whole chicken last week and they had 3 to choose from.  That's it...just 3.  And 2 of the packages had holes.
They still have loads of canned goods and processed stuff, but anything that's got a shorter shelf life seems to be dwindling in supply and selection.
The more high-end grocery store up the road (giant eagle) does have a little bit better selection of fruit & veg and meat, but it's a bit pricey to shop at on a regular basis.  It's where I go to stock up on meat when they have it on sale (usually buy one get one).
Before, our grocery bill was about $110 a week.  Now that we're stocking up and taking advantage of sales we've gotten it down to about $80 a week.

I dunno what's going on with the grocery stores around here.
I have noticed that it seems to be worse at the stores like walmart that also sell "other stuff" like clothes and housewares than it is at the stores that are primarily groceries only.
I'm hope it's a trend that will reverse itself, but I'm not optimistic about it.

"The people have no fruit and veg?  Let them eat Twinkies!"
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Roundabouts on January 16, 2012, 02:58:51 PM
Ok so I have now noticed something new in our local stores.  Well more about me and my reactions. 

When I first started this thread I could say I almost felt a panic not quite but I was sure wondering what the heck was going on.  It was also surprising to me that hubby didn't really notice any thing.  I don't shop near as often as I use to so it is harder to track.  (Love having my own stash)  What I notice now is that I no longer notice the changes like I did.  I am not as shocked.

Empty shelves here and there that's normal.  Smaller selections oh that's normal.  Apples are so expensive crazy I won't even buy them ( I live in the apple state WA) Smaller containers goes by without hardly a blink.  Higher prices well it figures.  Now that is the scariest thing. 

This can go on and it's no longer shocking and we even come to accept it as normal.   Bit by bit this "thing" is hitting us just chipping away so small that it can easily be  looked over.  Even heard on the news that food prices only raised 12%.  Yes ONLY.  Apparently they can not do simple math.  12% of $2000 is $240 or $2880 per yr.  They call that ONLY.  In what universe is $2880 not that much money.  I am sure they did not take into account the smaller containers. Paying more and getting less.

It was just a few years ago if I went over $100 on groceries it was oh crap then it was when you went over $200 now it's a sigh of relief to get out of the store for under $300.  I can't even imagine how bad it would be for large families.   

I hate to see how bad this will really get.  And I really really hate to see how I can come to see this as normal.  Glad I am prepping Glad I am stepping up my own food production
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Shaunypoo on January 16, 2012, 03:09:35 PM
Other than the last 7 years of steady price increases, nothing has really changed where I shop (SW Ohio).  The Kroger I go to has plenty of fruits, veggies, and meats.  Some fruits and veggies run out from time to time, but considering how seasonal it is, that is to be expected.  Shipping most of our stuff from South America this time of year raises the prices and lowers the quality, but it happens every year.  Can't find good green beans, but won't have that problem next year since I am planning a bumper crop.

Every few weeks I notice another product I buy gets a 15/20/25% increase, then goes on sale for 10% less.  It doesn't suprise me anymore, and it doesn't effect me as much anymore, especially since I have been copy canning, coupon clipping, etc.  Just about everything I buy has gone through one or more of those cycles, so that the total overall cost of shopping has gone up.  It is just going up at a constant rate, so most people don't notice it.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: soccer grannie on January 16, 2012, 03:47:38 PM
I looked for a whole chicken last week and they had 3 to choose from.
IMO: As the years go by I'm seeing fewer whole chickens in the meat dept. I believe there are several reasons for this.  Most people: 1. don't know how to cut up a whole chicken (which is usually cheaper per lb), 2. don't want to do the butchering, 3. grab the boneless/skinless quick cooking parts, 4. don't know how to cook a whole chicken, ...
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Greywolf27 on January 16, 2012, 03:57:51 PM
IMO: As the years go by I'm seeing fewer whole chickens in the meat dept. I believe there are several reasons for this.  Most people: 1. don't know how to cut up a whole chicken (which is usually cheaper per lb), 2. don't want to do the butchering, 3. grab the boneless/skinless quick cooking parts, 4. don't know how to cook a whole chicken, ...

I totally agree.  Before me, my sweetie only bought the boneless skinless ready to cook "chicken fingers"

Do chickens have fingers?  ::)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: soccer grannie on January 16, 2012, 04:08:48 PM
Do chickens have fingers?  ::)
Maybe, they've got lips.  ;)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: KellyAnn on January 16, 2012, 06:49:26 PM
Maybe, they've got lips.  ;)
Isn't that what Chicken McNuggets are made of?
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexasGirl on January 16, 2012, 07:45:23 PM
 
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Isn't that what Chicken McNuggets are made of?

Only partially.  I hear tell it's mostly leftover beaks, clucks, and chickglue. 

Mmmm... Great for dipping in artificially flavored high fructose corn syrup, AKA Mc BBQ sauce.

~TG
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: ncjeeper on January 17, 2012, 12:00:15 AM
Yeah went to the super wally world tonight. Pretty depressing. Most of the stuff I like is disappearing. Even there own brand of soda's was reduce to a meesly 5ft shelf space. Used to buy bread mix to make fresh bread. Thats gone. My favorite Banquet spicey chicken wings are no longer carried, and the space has been replaced with wal-marts crappy brand Great Value. :o
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Shaunypoo on January 17, 2012, 07:35:10 AM
Yeah went to the super wally world tonight. Pretty depressing. Most of the stuff I like is disappearing. Even there own brand of soda's was reduce to a meesly 5ft shelf space. Used to buy bread mix to make fresh bread. Thats gone. My favorite Banquet spicey chicken wings are no longer carried, and the space has been replaced with wal-marts crappy brand Great Value. :o

Great Value, terrible product.  Too many of the large chain -Marts are sacrificing quality for savings.  Most people buy into it.  They don't realize that value isn't always related to price.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: KellyAnn on January 17, 2012, 03:34:18 PM
Just got back from picking up a half-gallon of milk (we forgot to get it this weekend).
The Kroger had no half-gallons in skim, 1% or 2%, the only kind available in a half-gallon was the whole milk.
A lot of empty fridge space in the milk section at Kroger.  I'm hoping I just caught them in the middle of restocking or something, but it sure was spooky to see.

(I know gallons are cheaper, but we don't get through them quickly enough.)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on January 17, 2012, 06:29:32 PM
I make it a point to go to the grocery store on Friday mornings. (I have an odd work schedule.) All aisles, display cases, etc. are always jam packed in prepeation for the week end shopping. It almost always takes them until Wednesday to get restocked from after the weekend. Mondays and Tuesdays usually have the barest shelves.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Shaunypoo on January 18, 2012, 06:28:02 AM
I always shop Monday evening because in my experience that is when they are least busy.  My Kroger is almost always well stocked.  There may be a spot where a particular brand of a particular product is missing, and I have seen the milk case empty before, but they stock almost every night at mine.  There are also lots of good sales earlier in the week on the real food items, while items like beer and Doritos go on sale for the weekend.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on January 18, 2012, 08:01:13 AM
Here, the Kroger doesn't even try to start restocking unitl Monday night. But, yeah most of the time they are in pretty good shape. No where near as empty as some of these folks are talking about. It's still a little early to push the panic button, IMO, but of course it is certainly time to continue stocking up.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: frugalcountrymom on March 23, 2013, 11:32:43 PM
My sister from Calif just came down to visit she said she just likes standing at our meat dept at HEB here in Tx and look at all the variety of meats we have compared to what they have down there and it dosent look good back in Calif their meat she said. I have noticed that the bread, milk & eggs cost is the same here since last summer but everything else has sky rocketed up, best not to buy pre packaged foods those R the ones I noticed that has gone up and fresh fruit & veggies.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Avlor on March 26, 2013, 04:34:41 PM
It's been interesting here in eastern South Dakota.  Shelves aren't empty.  I live on the less populated side of town, so my stores don't run out as often.   But I can't always find the things I like best.  (Tazo tea is often not there and something else is stuck in it's place on the shelf.)  Prices are going up.  Milk is up to $4.25/gal.  (Though it was up to $4.50 last month.)  But most things aren't going up as much as milk.  It's weird because SD is a farm state.  Why milk? 


I think this "don't keep stock in the back of the store" policy is really dumb!  Almost all our stores are doing this now.  Any sale + coupon item at Target will be sold out in a day.  Walmart is almost as bad.  Do they enjoy the crazy rushes and grumpy customers when winter storms come?


Having another grocery store chain coming in will be a blessing.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Cedar on March 26, 2013, 04:58:35 PM
I think this "don't keep stock in the back of the store" policy is really dumb!  Almost all our stores are doing this now.  Any sale + coupon item at Target will be sold out in a day.  Walmart is almost as bad.  Do they enjoy the crazy rushes and grumpy customers when winter storms come?

I think they cannot afford the 'overstock'?

Cedar
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Avlor on March 26, 2013, 05:09:45 PM
Yes.  That makes it scary.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Hilltopper on May 06, 2013, 08:58:41 PM
I just noticed a local grocery store here in Canada under the Save On brand had the smallest 2 inch , lowest grade Gala apples I have ever seen for sale ever and at $1.97 /kg yet .  They are either the lowest grade dregs from the southern hemisphere or the very last of what was in storage  here and cheapest for the store to buy ?  I am not sure but I know our own highest grade produce always use to leave the country to go to japan when their economy was flying high .  I am glad for some sunshine and hoping my apple trees get pollinated and bear this year . 
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: LibertyBelle on May 06, 2013, 09:15:08 PM
Our stores used to always have full shelves, regardless of the time of day.  But I've been noticing that in the past few months there are times I've gone in and seen almost entire shelves empty.  Sometimes the stock is sitting in back, waiting to be shelved, but more often than not they are waiting on the trucks to come in.   I picked up two bags of Gala apples last week for 5.89/kg.  Granted, they were organic, but still that's double what they were this time last year. 
I can hardly wait until my own trees really start bearing...     

Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: MissAnthrope Plant Nerd on May 19, 2013, 03:41:06 PM
Grocery stores around here stopped doubling coupons years ago.  About a decade ago I could buy a 100 coupons online and take them to Kroger and have them double/triple them all in a single transaction.  Those were the days.  Then they limited us to a couple coupons per item, then one coupon per item doubled.  Now, nothing - face value only.  I don't coupon anymore, but those were grand days 10+ years ago running full speed with stacks of coupons!

A few months ago I started going to town around 5 -6 pm and was shocked at the crowds.  I usually go to town in the mornings.  The late day crowds along with store stocking when they get their trucks - every couple of days - would explain the low stocked shelves.  It is out of vogue now to keep an inventory in the back of the store - costs a bit more.

My big concern is the rising food prices.  It is my understanding that food prices are no longer computed into the inflation number?
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Morning Sunshine on May 19, 2013, 05:19:12 PM
My big concern is the rising food prices.  It is my understanding that food prices are no longer computed into the inflation number?

and neither is gasoline  :o  they are both too volatile to factor in
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: TexDaddy on May 19, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
Well, I know it's a crisis now. Kroger was completely out of my favorite red raspberry preserves this morning.  :o

It is a good thing I still have quite a few stashed away.  ;)
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: oktheniknow on July 15, 2013, 08:16:40 AM
Wife and I had an interesting experience this weekend. Were at a mega HEB for groceries. Was packed with people. A lady comes on the speaker address system and says that their registers were down due to a power problem and they would not be able to handle any transactions until an electrician comes to repair. Some people just left their full carts. Others headed towards the registers to stand in line (like that would solve anything!). We just milled around and looked at their selections that we don't normally look through. Overheard some saying that the stores' backup power to the registers was down as well.
It was quite strange walking through the bare aisles where previously they were packed. We envisioned what it would have been like with a real crisis where people would have been grabbing stuff off the shelves and running. After we left the store without being able to buy anything, saw where they weren't letting people into the store. Also had their gas station shut down. Bet that electrician was charging a pretty penny to fix. Might have been a good exercise to wake up some of the sheep about what could happen and to start thinking about prepping.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: Cedar on July 15, 2013, 10:08:52 AM
We had a brown out the other day. Second time I have ever seen one of those. If you don't know what one is, it is when there is a tiny bit of electricity at your house, but there is not enough to really power anything. Candles give out more light than a light bulb.

So we had to head into the larger town the other day anyway and when we passed our little store, we saw they had the generator out and the cord through the window. We guessed they had to do this often and it was not even abnormal. I do remember when I was little and even maybe when I was not that little, when power went out in the store, they still could ring up or tally up your groceries and you paid with cash or a check like most people did then normally. Probably no hope of that now with ATM cards, credit cards and everything on scanners.

Cedar
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: LibertyBelle on July 15, 2013, 04:51:48 PM
I do remember when I was little and even maybe when I was not that little, when power went out in the store, they still could ring up or tally up your groceries and you paid with cash or a check like most people did then normally.

When I was a teen, my grandparents owned a little country store (hardwood floors and all) and their register was manual, as was their deli scale. While electric models were readily available, my grandfather was "old school" and reluctant to change with the times.  He had a sign on the glass of the front door (which, btw, had a round door knob) that said "cash or local check only," although I know he also accepted the paper food coupons for those on welfare.  And he frequently accepted fresh local produce in exchange for dry goods.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: summer98 on July 16, 2013, 06:29:34 AM
When I was a girl (and this was back in the 80s -I'm not that old) the one grocery store in the town where my great-aunt lived still let people buy things on credit. She would stop in every week after church to get her groceries, put it on her tab, then write one check to cover it all when her money came in on the first.

Of course, the store owner knew where every single person in and around that town lived, and they would have had to look him in the eye if they ever stiffed him.
Title: Re: So how are your grocery stores? Eerie for me
Post by: LibertyBelle on July 16, 2013, 01:38:19 PM
and they would have had to look him in the eye if they ever stiffed him.

Yep, that's how folks were back then. Nowadays it seems like most people wouldn't even bat an eye about doing that. :(