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what edged weapons do you really need?

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creuzerm:
Edged WEAPON? I would take the biggest baddest blade that I could whip around and poke with that I could find. If I have a machete, and the other guy has a broadsword, I better hope I can run faster with my small, light machete then he can with his big heavy sword.

Probably one of the best edged weapons of all time was the Roman Gladius. It was used mostly for poking, like a short spear. It's light, easy to use, easy to carry, easy to train to use.
The longsword was a weapon that came about after stirrups where invented and a short sword just didn't have the reach needed to poke somebody from on top of a running horse. They are heavy, ungainly, and hard to train with. A pain to carry too. Look at how they trimmed down and evolved into sabers by the time Custer was out shooting up the natives in the Dakotas.
A Katana, while not a poking weapon, again uses primarily the tip to do the work. These also take a lot of training to use effectively.
I don't ever want to be on the wrong end of any of these. I will try my best to stay at least 3-4 feet away from somebody waving one of these about. 

I have read that Nobody wins a knife fight - everyone gets cut. About the only way you could win a knife fight is if the  other guy didn't have one at all.
Or didn't have one as handy as you do. A college room-mate showed me how to use a balisong - butterfly knife. Pretty bladework, I can dig my lockback out of my pocket and open it with one hand faster then he can fiddle and flash his fancy blade open. Intimidation factor, butterfly knife wins bar none if you can do all them fancy tricks. Actual fight, a simple click as that lockback latches is what I would look for.
How does that quote go? "Silly, bringing a knife to a gun fight"?


Edged Tool, now that's a different story.

Look in your kitchen. You probably have several to many different knives in the drawer/block. Do you use all of them every time you cook? Have you used all of them in any given month? Heck, are there some that you haven't used at all?

Each knife is for a different purpose. Try something to see if bigger or smaller is better, for a week use only the smallest paring knife you have, see how well it works, the next week, the biggest chefs knife you have.
Could you do everything needed with both knives? Which was easier to do the majority of tasks with? Did you use the two sized knives differently to do the same task?

Take that thought process and apply it to survival needs. Can you cut through a 2 inch tree limb with a machete? Yes, with a single mighty blow. Can you gut that branch with the inch and a half short blade of a pen knife, yep, just takes a while longer. Now peel a potato or wild duckpotato bulb or whatever. Not so easy with that machete, is it?

Which can can carry with you at all times? You can't use it if its at home, in the truck, in your back back at camp, or in the possession of the police for some stupid reason. Back to the weapon topic, is it a useful weapon if you don't have it on you?

I carry 3 knives with me at all times. A 3.5 inch lockback that I use ALL the time. One of those small victornox keychain knives which i use the scissors on all the time, the blade much less often. I also carry a victornonx Cybertool which I use for the tools regularly - I have actually never used either blade on it in the years I have carried it. The cybertool will probably get swapped out for a multitool when I find one small enough for jeans pocket carry.

I have a fireaxe in the truck. If I need to get a tree out of the road on a dark and storm night, I have the tools with me to do so. It will also make quick work of a windshield of a rolled car if I want to drag someone out. It can make quick work of small firewood, and can split small wood into kindling.

I don't know what I would have along with on a camping trip, a machete or a hatchet. It would depend on the terrain, Florida, the machete, old growth forest, the hatchet, mixed new growth woods, maybe the machete? Back to the weapon topic, a machete is much easier to whip about then a hatchet, and they seem to be popular and brutally effective in parts of Africa. A good solid hit on the head with a hatchet though and it's game over man. A tomahawk can also be used as a ranged weapon with some practice and looks to be a tad more nimble and have a bit more reach then a normal camping hatchet.

What edged weapon/tool do you really need? The one that will solve the problem at hand. If you don' have it with you, it can't solve the problem no matter how perfect it would work.
To pick the first edged weapon/tool? I would start with a small to midsized folder that you can easily and quickly open with one hand - try it with your off had too. It may be a little to big, or a little to small for many tasks, but that is a lot better then totally unworkable for a few tasks in my book.

2nd edged weapon/tool? Something big, bad, lots of intimidation factor, easy to whip about, and otherwise just cool - it's going to sit on top of your bookshelf anyhow, so get it as cool as you can, right? Eh, maybe for the 3rd, 2nd would probably be a machete, kukri, hatchet or tomahawk depending on your regional conditions and what strikes your fancy.

What blog did I see the great phrase, Two is one, one is none? Something to think about too.

BigDanInTX:
I wonder if the "shoot and scoot" could be adapted to an edged weapon...  hmmm...

ModernSurvival:
Sure, slash and scoot, slash and scoot!  ;)

creuzerm:
Hit and run?

DeltaEchoVictor:
I carry a Gerber para-frame for EDC.

When I head to the woods I have a midsized sheath knife that goes on the belt & an LTC kukri that goes in the Jeep & sometimes on the belt.  I keep a hatchet as well as a folding GI shovel in the Jeep all the time.

Realistically speaking, since we're actually not living in a PAW, it makes sense to carry enough knife for whatever you might encounter on a daily basis.  For me that's opening boxes, cutting ty-gard & various other warehouse materials.  I have very little use for a big badass, ninja killing blade in my day to day life.  I do keep other edged tools in various places, I keep a multi-tool in my EDC bag.

The right tool for the right job is an axiom I tend to follow when it comes to all things sharp.

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