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Armory, Self Defense, And EDC => Firearms (Including Long Guns, Pistols) => Firearms Legislation And News => Topic started by: surfivor on April 22, 2020, 06:44:04 PM

Title: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: surfivor on April 22, 2020, 06:44:04 PM
Saw reference to this on Facebook:

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/democrats-have-launched-a-full-blown-assault-on-gun-rights/

-Universal background checks

-Seven day waiting period for gun purchases

-Ban almost all semi-automatic rifles

-Institute a federal magazine ban

-Implement national “Red Flag” gun confiscation

-Tax guns at 30% and ammunition at 50%

-Ban people under 21 from exercising their Second Amendment Rights (keep in mind, Pelosi wants to lower the voting age to 16)

-Ration guns by making it illegal to purchase more than one firearm in a 30-day period

-Force “Safe Storage” requirements on gun owners

-Ban home builds

-Ban suppressors

-Force FFL’s to spend massive amounts of money to comply with new “security require

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https://gunowners.org/na03302020/

H.R. 5717: THE END OF THE WORLD FOR GUN OWNERS

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/06/fact-check-would-us-house-bill-ban-assault-weapons/2943913001/

https://gunsinthenews.com/massive-gun-control-bill-filed-in-dc/?fbclid=IwAR2hcbjwSnWLBsXFxsdueXpSSVDQo_YmHagWPW4xxk0LYMxhsHTqHvDz750
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: Carver on April 22, 2020, 07:28:56 PM
In the 2008 case District of Columbia v. Heller, the Supreme Court held that the "Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/second_amendment (https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/second_amendment)
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: fritz_monroe on April 22, 2020, 07:37:11 PM
You know what's so annoying about red flag laws, and weapons bans?  The lack of thought that goes into any of the laws. 

It doesn't matter that the vast majority of modern rifles would violate the laws.
It doesn't matter that if a red flag report was filed by the angry ex-wife of an otherwise level headed, sane gun holder.
It doesn't matter that it has been legal for a person to manufacture their own firearm since this country was founded.

The only thing that matters is that the anti-gun populous continues to hide their heads in the sand and to ignore the truth.  The truth is that a criminal is a criminal. 

A criminal doesn't care that the gun they just stole is an illegal gun now that it is in his hands.
A criminal doesn't care that using a gun in the commission of a crime adds additional  counts to their crime.
A criminal doesn't care that it is illegal to have a high capacity magazine
A criminal doesn't care that a suppressor is illegal without the proper documentation.

As long as the voting population keeps their blinders on, it's all good.
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: IKN on April 25, 2020, 08:02:50 AM
Sure it matters....to the politicians.
Without active, violent criminals on the street there's no public fear that would allow them to violate their oath to uphold the Constitution.

What gets me is why there have been no criminal charges filed against these oath breaking scum ?
To me, they are traitors to their constituency, their office, and the country and should be treated as such.
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: surfivor on April 25, 2020, 06:02:11 PM
Sure it matters....to the politicians.
Without active, violent criminals on the street there's no public fear that would allow them to violate their oath to uphold the Constitution.

What gets me is why there have been no criminal charges filed against these oath breaking scum ?
To me, they are traitors to their constituency, their office, and the country and should be treated as such.

Now you’re talking! Send some government people to jail !
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: fritz_monroe on April 25, 2020, 08:19:51 PM
Now you’re talking! Send some government people to jail !
Unfortunately there's little chance of that happening
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: IKN on April 27, 2020, 08:16:54 AM
Unfortunately there's little chance of that happening

To me, that's the problem.
Politicians are supposed to serve the public, not rule over it.
So how is it they were able to pass laws giving themselves Immunity as well as Qualified Immunity for other public officials ?
If they break the law, they should be held accountable just like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: armymars on April 27, 2020, 04:27:33 PM
The question is why do we keep voting them in office.
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: surfivor on April 27, 2020, 05:01:03 PM
The question is why do we keep voting them in office.

 I don't know why I have the impression that quite a few libertarians don't vote but liberals do vote. If so, does that explain any of it ?
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: David in MN on April 27, 2020, 05:08:49 PM
Any business owner understands this. You can do what you want provided you send octuplecat paperwork to 5 agencies along with a copy of your birth certificate, passport, a proof of life photo, and your pinky finger. Once that's done we will do an environmental impact survey, you need to surrender your credit cards to Serbia, do 7 billion Hail Marys in Esperantu and then we can schedule your hearing for 2063. And then you can sell a sandwich. Presuming you cut the check to pay for all this up front.

That's called regulation. When they tout common sense legislation they mean to turn the little guy who just likes shooting a round of skeet into the same class as a chemical company, an aircraft company, or a hazardous metals supplier.

Great job guys, you have turned the right of self defense into a paperwork exercise. You know who sucks at paperwork? The battered wife on the run. The migrant worker unsure of the safety of his family. The honest man whose crazy ex wife started throwing accusations. Get down in the mud and the blood and realize you might be putting kids at risk because mom really needs a shotgun.
Title: Re: Dems working on Federal assault weapons ban, red flag laws etc ?
Post by: Chemsoldier on April 27, 2020, 07:54:10 PM
I don't know why I have the impression that quite a few libertarians don't vote but liberals do vote. If so, does that explain any of it ?
Considering the number of people who self identify as political progressives vs. the number who self identify as libertarian, I think the bigger problem is the number of libertarians.  Even if 100% of them voted, and as a monolithic voting block, there are not enough.