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Title: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: The Morgan Hill Homesteading Project on November 28, 2015, 08:13:39 PM
I am currently looking at this stove right now. any thought on it? it would be used for elaborate car camping possible long term.

http://www.biolitestove.com/products/biolite-basecamp
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: Cedar on November 28, 2015, 08:46:50 PM
Interesting looking R.

Cedar
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: Marinesg1012 on November 28, 2015, 08:51:47 PM
I have the bio lite camping stove and really like it, I know they are suppose to be using the base camps for rural villages in africa and such.
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: FreeLancer on November 29, 2015, 02:02:10 AM
You should search for some YouTube reviews to get a realistic idea of the typical power output of these thermoelectric generators, especially if charging your phone is a big reason for buying a Biolite stove.  Yes, they do generate power, but it's probably not near as much you'd think.
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: r_w on November 29, 2015, 08:41:58 AM
They are a good stove/grill for glamping or backyard use if you have a supply of dry wood.

I wonder if a Weber junior lid would fit? Then it would be about the perfect grill as well. 

For homestead or base camp use, you would want to add a huge battery pack, 10,000+ mAh, so you were never wasting power and can take it away from stove at night.
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: 11steve11 on April 19, 2016, 10:16:00 AM
My advice...no.

Hoping this comes across as helpful,

I camp with boy scouts, it is amazing to me all of the crap gadgets junk gear people buy to go camping with and spend more time messing with gear than enjoying being outdoors.  This one camp, my son and I watched (for hours) scouts & dads attempting to set up all the junk they needed to camp including light a fire with Bear Grills fire starters and bow drills. When they were exhausted, I handed my son one match, 2 minutes later a roaring fire and they took a nap.  He and I went for a walk, checking out plants, deer, chipmunks, birds; on the way back to camp he turned to me and exclaimed how the others were more comical to watch than TV --> BANG, got him.

What is the goal of a stove...to heat water and food (mostly water).
What is the goal of power in the outdoors...light and communication.
I have at least 10 unique and different stoves, the one I camp with the most I made out of 2 pop cans and some aluminum flashing. it burns any kind of liquid fuel or sticks and has made GALLONS of hot chocolate.  My power is in the form of AA batteries or the Steven Harris battery pack for cel phone; and I have NEVER run out of power...EVER.

Please re-consider.  Don't be the comic relief for someone else.  I agree it has a high cool factor but for the time you are going to be babysitting this thing while it dribbles power out, you could be doing what you went camping to do; get away from this kind of junk.
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: mountainmoma on April 19, 2016, 11:55:13 AM
I have a rocket stove, for emergency back-up cooking, one like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYPAIj7xX3M

It heats water quickly with just a bit of sticks off the ground.  If I also used something like this for power, I think I would have to keep it burning much longer to get that charge ?
Title: Re: A stove I am considering buying
Post by: machinisttx on April 19, 2016, 09:27:30 PM
The specs are listed on the page.

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USB Power Output
5W@5V, charging times vary by strength of fire

It costs $300. I paid $50 for a 10W@5v solar panel from Amazon. Charges my kindle and my phone just fine.

The battery is:
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Lithium ion, 2200mAh

I just paid $8(clearance) for a 4400mAh lithium ion battery pack from walmart.

I cannot see spending $300 on that.  http://www.tegmart.com/thermoelectric-modules/ (http://www.tegmart.com/thermoelectric-modules/)

http://www.instructables.com/id/Thermal-Power-Unit-Fire-to-battery-power/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Thermal-Power-Unit-Fire-to-battery-power/)
http://www.instructables.com/id/Recycled-Energy-ThermoElectric-Generator/ (http://www.instructables.com/id/Recycled-Energy-ThermoElectric-Generator/)