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Armory, Self Defense, And EDC => Firearms (Including Long Guns, Pistols) => Firearms Legislation And News => Topic started by: surfivor on January 02, 2020, 10:35:51 AM

Title: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: surfivor on January 02, 2020, 10:35:51 AM
You probably had a good laugh at one time about Black UN helicopters coming but as time goes on people like Alex jones seem more right all the time.

Maybe there will be this giant mass shooting or more of them just by “coincidence” and then suddenly a push for gun confiscation

Article:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-un-hiring-english-speaking-disarmament-officers-new-york



Archive link in case it disappears

https://archive.md/u7RMj#selection-317.0-317.54

https://careers.un.org/lbw/jobdetail.aspx?id=127453


Job Opening
Posting Title:   DISARMAMENT, DEMOBILIZATION AND REINTEGRATION OFFICER, P4
Job Code Title:   DISARMAMENT, DEMOBILIZATION AND REINTEGRATION OFFICER
Department/Office:   Department of Peace Operations
Duty Station:   NEW YORK
Posting Period:   26 December 2019 - 08 February 2020
Job Opening Number:   19-Security Institutions-DPO-127453-R-New York (R)
Staffing Exercise   N/A
United Nations Core Values: Integrity, Professionalism, Respect for Diversity

Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: Carver on January 02, 2020, 01:24:46 PM
It's on!
Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: Mr. Bill on January 02, 2020, 02:51:46 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-un-hiring-english-speaking-disarmament-officers-new-york

Well, that was imaginative.  The original is here, by the way:

Daisy Luther, The Organic Prepper, 1/1/20: The UN Is Hiring English-Speaking DISARMAMENT OFFICERS in New York (https://www.theorganicprepper.com/the-un-is-hiring-disarmament-officers-in-new-york/)

Seems like she stopped reading after the word "disarmament" and didn't notice "demobilization and reintegration".  The job description is obviously for a mid-level office position.  It's in NYC because the United Nations is headquartered in NYC.  It requires English speakers because "English and French are the working languages of the United Nations. For this post advertised, fluency in English is required. Knowledge of French is desirable." (from the job description).

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This position is located in the Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration (DDR) Section of the Office of Rule of Law and Security Institutions (OROLSI), within the Department of Peacekeeping Operations (DPKO) in New York.

Here's the webpage for the DDR Section:

https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/disarmament-demobilization-and-reintegration

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...Through a process of removing weapons from the hands of members of armed groups, taking these combatants out of their groups and helping them to reintegrate as civilians into society, disarmament, demobilization and reintegration seeks to support ex-combatants and those associated with armed groups, so that they can become active participants in the peace process.

Disarmament, demobilization and reintegration lays the groundwork for safeguarding and sustaining the communities to which these individuals return, while building capacity for long-term peace, security and development.

In situations where it is too early or not possible to carry out disarmament, demobilization and reintegration work the UN supports Community Violence Reduction programmes that lead to the right conditions for political processes to progress and armed groups to disband.

As of 2017-2018, the team of OROLSI’s Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration Section was supporting disarmament, demobilization and reintegration processes in UN Peacekeeping Operations in the Central African Republic (MINUSCA), Darfur (UNAMID), the Democratic Republic of Congo (MONUSCO), Mali (MINUSMA), and South Sudan (UNMISS).

The Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration Section also supports operations in UN Special Political Missions in Colombia (UNVMC), Libya (UNSMIL), Somalia (UNSOM), Syria (OSE-Syria), and Yemen (OSESGY), the UN Office to the African Union (UNOAU), the Office of the Special Adviser to the Secretary-General in Burundi (OSASG-B) and the Office of the Special Envoy of the Secretary-General for the Great Lakes (OSESG-GL), as well as in non-mission settings such as Côte d’Ivoire, Nigeria and the Republic of the Congo. ...
Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: surfivor on January 02, 2020, 03:20:07 PM
 It seems like it could apply to anybody .. "armed groups" .. although perhaps these DDR job listing go back further in time and didn't just show up in December but it is still interesting

https://nationalfile.com/new-york-un-office-recruits-paramilitary-troops-for-disarmament-and-reintegration-of-us-civilians/


The UN website notes that “it is important to break outside of the traditional view of DDR participants as only being adult males carrying weapons, and remember that DDR participants and beneficiaries may fit all types of profiles including female ex-combatants and women associated with armed forces and groups, children, youth, the elderly and persons living with disabilities.”

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The UN describes the Disarmament, Demobilization, and Reintegration protocol as “a complex process, with political, military, security, humanitarian and socio-economic dimensions.”

Key components of DDR as defined by the UN include disarming the civilian population and “the development of responsible arms management programmes” and the implementation of mass detainment camps:

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Disarmament is the collection, documentation, control and disposal of small arms, ammunition, explosives and light and heavy weapons of combatants and often also of the civilian population. Disarmament also includes the development of responsible arms management programmes.

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some other article:

https://theglobalobservatory.org/2017/05/disarmament-demobilization-reintegration-cote-divoire/

“Taking the Gun out of Politics”: Rethinking Disarmament, Demobilization, and Reintegration
Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: David in MN on January 02, 2020, 03:51:34 PM
Well the UN anti-gun sculpture is a full auto M16 with grenade launcher and night vision... Oh, no it's a feeble knotted revolver. Because the UN knows the greatest danger is grandpa's Colt Python.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/05/1009082

The blue helmets don't want your AR. They want your felling axe.
Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: surfivor on January 02, 2020, 04:04:50 PM

more stuff from this article that was interesting .. it mentions a new paradigm and monopoly of force

https://theglobalobservatory.org/2017/05/disarmament-demobilization-reintegration-cote-divoire/

“Taking the Gun out of Politics”: Rethinking Disarmament, Demobilization, and Reintegration



In other words, there is both need and potential for a “sustaining peace” approach to DDR. Sustaining peace, a new paradigm for integrated UN action championed by Secretary-General António Guterres, focuses on restoring trust between governments and citizens as the key to preventing and resolving conflict. At the heart of this approach is the humility to study and learn from what still works, rather than approaching post-conflict societies with assumptions about how they functioned prior to conflict, or uncritically attempting to restore those allegedly peaceful conditions. The goal of such DDR schemes would not be limited to restoring a monopoly of force or preventing the recurrence of conflict—rather, DDR would be one part of a holistic process that supports the establishment of social and political justice.
Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: iam4liberty on January 02, 2020, 04:06:46 PM
Well, that was imaginative.  The original is here, by the way:

Daisy Luther, The Organic Prepper, 1/1/20: The UN Is Hiring English-Speaking DISARMAMENT OFFICERS in New York (https://www.theorganicprepper.com/the-un-is-hiring-disarmament-officers-in-new-york/)

Seems like she stopped reading after the word "disarmament" and didn't notice "demobilization and reintegration".  The job description is obviously for a mid-level office position.  It's in NYC because the United Nations is headquartered in NYC.  It requires English speakers because "English and French are the working languages of the United Nations. For this post advertised, fluency in English is required. Knowledge of French is desirable." (from the job description).

Here's the webpage for the DDR Section:

https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/disarmament-demobilization-and-reintegration

This makes feel worse about whole thing.  We need to defund the UN asap.

Well the UN anti-gun sculpture is a full auto M16 with grenade launcher and night vision... Oh, no it's a feeble knotted revolver. Because the UN knows the greatest danger is grandpa's Colt Python.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/05/1009082

The blue helmets don't want your AR. They want your felling axe.

They pretty honest about it.

The pandemic of gun violence has many roots, such as a lack of adequate legislation and regulation on gun control; an insufficient ability to enforce existing laws; youth unemployment and a lack of job opportunities for former gang members and ex-combatants.

Ms. Nakamitsu also singled out a culture in some places that “glorifies violence and equates guns with masculinity”.

Such complex problems require multi-faceted, sustainable solutions that address root causes, Ms. Nakamitsu said.

The Global Week “is a conduit” for fostering cooperation on this critical issue among all stakeholders, including government, international and regional organizations, businesses, and civil society, and for them to pool their experience, strength and expertise, she said.


And it worked so well in Venezuela.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29308509 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-29308509)
Venezuela's Maduro launches civilian disarmament plan

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has announced he is expanding a plan to disarm civilians.

Speaking on the International Day of Peace, Mr Maduro said his government would invest $47m (£29m) and create 60 new disarmament centres.

According to United Nations figures, Venezuela has the second highest peacetime murder rate in the world after Honduras.
...
On Sunday Mr Maduro said his government "continued to pursue the dream, the utopia of a Venezuela in peace", and promised to build "peace with love, justice and a will to work".


Look at that great UN supported Utopia!  We were fools not to join in.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-balks-as-venezuela-heads-up-un-backed-disarmament-body (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-balks-as-venezuela-heads-up-un-backed-disarmament-body)
US boycotts UN disarmament conference after Venezuela takes presidency
The U.S. on Tuesday walked out of a U.N. disarmament conference in Geneva to protest Venezuela assuming the presidency -- saying that it shows there is "something fundamentally wrong" with how the conference is conducting its business.

U.S. Ambassador Robert Wood said the U.S. was boycotting the Conference on Disarmament in protest of the month-long presidency being given to the regime of Venezuela's disputed president Nicolas Maduro.
Title: Re: UN plans for disarmament/gun confiscation in the US
Post by: surfivor on January 02, 2020, 05:44:03 PM
more from this article, mentioning how in Northern Ireland I guess they failed to confiscate the weapons:

https://theglobalobservatory.org/2017/05/disarmament-demobilization-reintegration-cote-divoire/

Consider, for instance, the peace process in Northern Ireland. The Good Friday Agreement, which marked the formal end of this conflict, had elaborate provisions for elections and power-sharing, building on a clear commitment to eschew violence or be disqualified from the political process. It made no mention of demobilization or reintegration; the late Martin McGuinness, Irish Republican Army chief of staff, called it a process of “taking the gun out of politics.”

To be sure, even that phrase acknowledges the importance of disarmament, and a commitment to verifiable disarmament was a central feature of making peace in Northern Ireland as well. The question, however, becomes one of prioritization and sequencing. Between the sheer ubiquity of cross-border arms flows, and the demonstrably limited capacity of post-conflict governments and armed forces to maintain control (or even records and inventories) of their weapons, taking physical custody of weapons seems at best a temporary measure. (At worst, it is a Sisyphean exercise that incentivizes corruption.) The proliferation of weapons must be reversed, but it may be both more productive and more urgent to reinforce a norm—a la Northern Ireland—against the use of force for political goals. Disarmament becomes a rule of law function, to be achieved gradually in conjunction with the restoration of state capacity and legitimacy, rather than an imperative for state security.


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The UN handbook on the topic came out two years ago. They have an office of Disarmament Affairs

https://www.un.org/disarmament/publications/more/ddr-handbook/

Publishers
United Nations Department of Peacekeeping Operations
United Nations Office for Disarmament Affairs

Product Details
Publication date: January 2018

Effective Weapons and Ammunition Management in a Changing Disarmament, Demobilization and Reintegration Context
A Handbook for United Nations DDR practitioners

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They UN also has

Civil Society and Disarmament
Disarmament: A Basic Guide
Disarmament Study Series
Disarmament Yearbook

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https://www.europe.undp.org/content/geneva/en/home/presscenter/articles/2019/IDDRS-Launch-Geneva-2019.html