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The Cancel Culture
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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2020, 10:04:30 AM »
John Cleese just tweeted out this video saying it was hard to tell if he recorded it 30 years ago or 10 minutes ago

https://youtu.be/HLNhPMQnWu4

Now BLM and ANTIFA is trying to get him cancelled on social media for hate speech. No moderate voices are to be allowed.  They can riot and loot, but noone else can even discuss issues. 

This is massively multiplied on the police who, starting late last year, aren't even allowed to report to public what is happening.  This authoritarians on both right and left are pushing this silencing   Example:

https://www.cbs7.com/content/news/Holiday-week-full-of-unbelievable-violence-in-Odessa-City---565757981.html
Holiday week full of "unbelievable" violent crime in Odessa; City withholding important information on cases from public

Odessa Police Department Chief Michael Gerke said the number of violent crimes throughout the Permian Basin is concerning, while Ector County Sheriff Mike Griffis said it’s “unbelievable” what is happening.

What should also be of concern to all Odessans is not just the rise in violent crime but also what appears to be City of Odessa officials stalling on releasing important information about all crime. The city recently made changes to the way information on crime is released — changes that FOI state officials say violate the public information act and that one official called “inexcusable.”
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“Clearly Odessans want to know about the crimes going on in this city and their neighborhoods,” Dennis said. “It’s not just about the media. This is about basic information about crime going on here and the city using our own tax dollars to fund fighting the release of information that is clearly public.”


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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2020, 10:16:13 AM »
They are doing everything they can to paint him ad a racist.  It isnt going to work.The backlash is going to be huge.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7059378/george-floyd-john-cleese-bbc-fawlty-towers-racist-comments/
John Cleese criticizes BBC removal of ‘Fawlty Towers’ episode due to racial slurs

Following the BBC‘s recent decision to remove a single episode of the mid-1970s British sitcom Fawlty Towers from its UKTV streaming service, John Cleese — star and creator of the popular TV series — has criticized the British broadcasting network.


The episode in question, The Germans, originally aired in 1975 and heard a number of racist remarks from the recurring and elderly character Major Gowen, who used multiple slurs to describe both the West Indies and India cricket teams.

The decision was made in light of the ongoing anti-racism and anti-police brutality protests sparked by the killing of George Floyd last month, according to The Associated Press (AP).
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In response to the BBC’s “stupid” decision, Cleese, 80, defended the Fawlty Towers episode by saying that the show was not “supporting” racists by using the offensive remarks, but was critiquing racists instead.
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The Monty Python star described Gowen, played by Ballard Blascheck, as “an old fossil left over from decades before” in an interview with Australian news outlet the Age on Friday, before expressing disappointment with the BBC and UKTV.

“We were not supporting (Gowen’s) views, we were making fun of them,” said Cleese. “If they can’t see that, if people are too stupid to see that, what can one say?”
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Cleese was also critical of the BBC for attempting to cover its history by removing “problematic” content from its back-catalogue in wake of the protests.

“The Greeks in 500 BC felt that culture, or any kind of real civilization, was only possible because of slavery,” the actor said. “Does that mean we should take down all the statues of Socrates?

“Do you say we shouldn’t be looking at Caravaggio’s paintings because he once murdered someone?”
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The BBC’s removal of The Germans from UKTV follows HBO‘s decision to temporarily remove the 1939 Civil War epic Gone With The Wind from its own streaming service, HBO Max, as a result of its “racial depictions.”

Additionally, the BBC has withdrawn its popular sketch show Little Britain because “times have changed” since the comedy first aired in the early 2000s.


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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2020, 11:27:40 AM »
Rolling Stone writer says Olivia Benson of 'Law & Order' should be 'canceled too'
https://www.foxnews.com/media/rolling-stone-magazine-olivia-benson-law-order-canceled
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"No matter how much you love Olivia Benson, you have to be willing to grapple with the fact that she plays a major role in perpetuating the idea that cops are inherently trustworthy and heroic, and that many viewers are unable to distinguish between the gossamer fantasy of how justice should be handled, and how it actually is."
"Cops" and "Live PD" weren't the only targets. The popular Nickelodeon children's cartoon "Paw Patrol" was not spared of criticism since its lead pup, Chase, is a police dog.

A Washington Post piece recently pleaded to Hollywood that it stop all production of police-inspired TV shows and films.



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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2020, 12:23:36 PM »
Fake antifacists deface statue of real antifascist. Everyone should remember that Antifa was formed in Germany to fight the National Socialists not because they felt Hitler was too radical but because they felt he wasnt radical enough. They wanted more death, more destruction, and more genocide. Now they are in the UK and US.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8398117/Black-Lives-Matter-protests-Volunteers-scrub-Churchill-racist-graffiti-statue.html
'It just felt like the right thing to do': Warehouse worker tells how he joined four Army cadet volunteers to scrub off 'Churchill was a racist' graffiti after his statue was defaced by an angry mob of Black Lives Matter protesters

Men scrubbed graffiti off the statue following Black Lives Matter protests at Parliament Square yesterday
Phrase 'was racist' had been added in spray paint, leaving monument reading: 'Churchill was a racist'
One volunteer joined in with clean up and went there because it 'just felt like it was the right thing to do'
Volunteers only stopped and left when a professional cleaner - remarkably called Winston - also turned up

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2020, 01:35:13 PM »
Opinion: We could have had meaningful change, but instead we went after Paw Patrol
https://disrn.com/opinion/opinion-we-could-have-had-meaningful-change-but-instead-we-went-after-paw-patrol-and-cracker-barrel
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There are real solutions that we could find, like the ones I wrote about here. But instead, those things are drown out by absurd demands to cancel Paw Patrol…

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2020, 02:33:38 PM »
If only this were satire...

https://babylonbee.com/news/antifa-member-lectures-d-day-veteran-on-how-to-fight-fascism
Antifa Member Lectures D-Day Veteran On How To Fight Fascism


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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2020, 03:01:06 PM »
Actually, the Babylonbee is a satirical site  :)

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2020, 03:21:55 PM »
Actually, the Babylonbee is a satirical site  :)

Are you sure?  I used to think so too.  But now....   ;)

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2020, 06:46:51 PM »
This company is daring to defend police amid cancel culture
Egard Watches defends police, calls for others to 'speak truth' in new ad

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/watch-advertisement-police-cancel-culture
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“At a time when we should be humanizing each other... we are vilifying each other,” Srulovicz wrote. “At a time when we should be unified with each other... we are segregating each other. Our great country is at a time of crisis and yet we are frozen with fear to even express ourselves.”

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2020, 08:40:27 PM »
No cancel here:
Starbucks Reverses Course, Will Let Employees Wear Black Lives Matter Apparel
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In a series of tweets, Starbucks said its employees “told us that they need a way to express themselves at work and we heard them.”
https://wccoradio.radio.com/articles/radiocom/starbucks-reverses-course-will-let-workers-wear-blm-apparel


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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2020, 08:06:32 AM »
HBO Max has pulled ‘Gone With the Wind’ from its service in order to fight racism and, frankly my dear, I DO give a damn!
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/491460-hbo-gone-with-wind-racism/
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Gone With the Wind, which is based on the novel of the same name by Margaret Mitchell, won 10 Academy Awards, including, ironically enough, the first ever for an African American, Hattie McDaniel, for Best Supporting Actress. The movie is also the highest grossing film of all time (adjusted for inflation) and is widely considered to be one of the greatest films of all time.

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2020, 08:56:17 AM »
HBO Max has pulled ‘Gone With the Wind’ from its service in order to fight racism and, frankly my dear, I DO give a damn!
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/491460-hbo-gone-with-wind-racism/

yeah, but the other day it occupied the 5/6 top selling slots at Amazon (Paw Patrol, another "cancel culture" victim held place #5), so most people do not agree with GWTW being cancelled.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/06/no-hbo-max-consumers-push-gone-with-the-wind-to-the-top-spot-on-amazon-prime/

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2020, 10:08:37 AM »
this thing seems to me more and more like "burning books"

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2020, 12:05:45 PM »
this thing seems to me more and more like "burning books"

you too, huh?

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2020, 12:51:54 PM »
this thing seems to me more and more like "burning books"
This is beyond book burning, the mere removal of disapproved media, culture. This Cancel Culture also requires you say something, if not, you are complicit.

White silence on social media: Why not saying anything is actually saying a lot

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-silence-on-social-media-why-not-saying-anything-is-actually-saying-a-lot/
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Rachel Lindsay, who famously broke barriers as the first black Bachelorette, said she is taking note of which white friends and public figures have gone silent.

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2020, 03:12:30 PM »
It's like every book from high school rolled into one: 1984, To Kill a Mockingbird, Fahrenheit 451, Lord of the Flys, A Clockwork Orange.  I expect Atlas Shrugged to come about any moment now.

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2020, 05:39:21 PM »
Uh oh.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/french-president-macron-colonial-era-statues-history.amp
French President Macron refuses to 'erase' history by removing colonial-era statues

And John Cleese won.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/5696809/fawlty-towers-dont-mention-the-war-reinstated-uktv/amp/
Fawlty Towers ‘don’t mention the war’ episode will be REINSTATED by UKTV after John Cleese blasted decision to remove it

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2020, 03:21:10 AM »
This is beyond book burning, the mere removal of disapproved media, culture. This Cancel Culture also requires you say something, if not, you are complicit.

White silence on social media: Why not saying anything is actually saying a lot

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/white-silence-on-social-media-why-not-saying-anything-is-actually-saying-a-lot/

scary indeed....it is the equivalent of "you are either with us or..." which does hide a touch of fascsism...

BTW, my reference in burning books was not on the literal sense, more like in F451 sense, where a shift in culture or politics is enforced
Just a sec...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_book-burning_incidents

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2020, 05:57:12 AM »
The modern day fascists.  Hiding behind "Woke" culture.   

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2020, 06:40:28 AM »
Time to speak up:
Prof. William Jacobson: ‘Silence Is Violence’ Is Totalitarian, ‘Just Like USSR’
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/06/14/prof-william-jacobson-silence-is-violence-is-totalitarian-just-like-ussr/
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The “silence is violence” motto goes beyond conventional left-wing intimidation into silence, observed Jacobson, as it pushes the frontier of “political correctness” into demanding expressions of support for leftist campaigns and stories.

Will he get unemployment?

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Jacobson warned, “It’s not even just that people are criticized for speaking out. Now they’re criticized for keeping their mouths shut, and this is really different. This is really totalitarian. This is not just another campus work or societal political correctness push. This is very different.”

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2020, 07:53:18 AM »
Jefferson has been cancelled.  I wonder if some of the older civil rights people will explain to them why so many African Americans chose to have Jefferson as a last name?  Meanwhile on radio, BLM activists are calling for worldwide destruction of all slave made monuments and monuments related to slave owners.  They mentioned the Washington monument, the white house, the capital building, the Smithsonian museum, mount Vernon, all forts, the pyramids of Egypt, and the colston monument in London.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/thomas-jefferson-statue-toppled-in-portland-oregon/ar-BB15uyFp
Thomas Jefferson statue toppled in Portland, Oregon

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2020, 02:26:50 PM »
Hide history from public sight
Then
Remove it from history
Then
you can repeat it

I am not saying that slavery was ever right.  I am not going to finish my thought because it is tin foil hat time.

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2020, 02:40:46 PM »
Hide history from public sight
Then
Remove it from history
Then
you can repeat it

I am not saying that slavery was ever right.  I am not going to finish my thought because it is tin foil hat time.
I get where you're going with that, a very interesting 2+2 thing. I'm going to have to think about that one. Very, very interesting.

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2020, 03:05:10 PM »
I'm very confused and very troubled by this. As a child I was raised to believe in the sacred right of speech. We were warned of the existential danger of having a free thought in East Germany where the Stasi would arrest you for having the wrong opinion or Soviet Russia where you had to lock yourself in the bedroom and whisper the truth to your spouse under the covers for fear of the commissar. We were taught to have a great pride that after the Revolution loyalists and rebels went back to being neighbors unlike the bloodbath of the French Revolution. Nobody was executed for holding the "wrong" opinion. And that's uniquely American because we all know the Brits would have strung us up if they had won.

I'm not claiming this is easy. We all grit our teeth when we see neonazi rallies and, truth  be told, if a meteor hit one I probably wouldn't mind. Even things I would support like gay rights can have parades that I find to be inappropriate displays. I'm often dismayed at how people "demonstrate" their second amendment rights. But we have a right to assemble and have our voices heard so we take the bad with the good.

I would also question the motive. Are there really people around me who think slavery was good? Or that women should be lesser than men? I guess it doesn't come up in conversation but I'd be real hard pressed to believe that I'm surrounded by bigots who need to be stifled because if I hear their crazy ideas I might just get sucked in as well. These tech companies almost believe if you read a well-written Facebook page you might just fall for naziism and it would sweep the nation. I find that argument specious. I'm an adult and capable of making up my mind. And if they really wanted to edit out dangerous articles maybe some alt-right basement dweller with 20 followers isn't as important as CNN, Fox, CBS, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, and the other mainstream players licking their fat lips to lie us into yet another pointless war.

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2020, 05:50:16 PM »
 It's just a tired divide and conquer strategy to distract from other issues and hurt Trump, and an excuse to attack conservatives. Isn't it blatantly obvious ? That's what annoys me, it's so obvious now. Trump might charge deep state operatives with crimes so they need to lash out. These things seem well organized.

 It also seems like this is why radical leftism has always failed in history and it always comes back to the right or the center in the long run because the left always has a militaristic bent that eventually reveals itself but the pain of getting back to the center may be significant
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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2020, 08:48:42 PM »
Meanwhile, a BLM spokesperson on radio is encouraging people to bring down the faces on Mount Rushmore.  What could possibly go wrong?

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-black-protester-nearly-killed-by-confederate-soldier-statue-va-20200612-wloplj4ucvhtlgu3533stfstsq-story.html
Black protester nearly killed by Confederate soldier statue

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Re: The Cancel Culture
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2020, 12:00:19 AM »
You know that cancel culture has also been going on here in Greece for quite some time, focused on the re-interpretation of history.
It usually involves the rounding off the edges of history by rounding off the words to affect the perception. (will not get into the details)

But I cannot pinpoint the Who..At the start we had the progressives of the Socialist party doing that, then the radical lefts. That is understandable since they have the internationalism -by the collapse of nation-states- running in their blood.
But now we are seeing the neo-liberals doing this too.

Two different forces,with a similar goal maybe? (pulping the people into a (consuming)mass?

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« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2020, 08:15:52 AM »
"The Fox Five" debate the cancel culture. Read the comments; how come private companies have to conform to federal whims such as forcing a bakery to bake cakes for homosexual weddings against their will, but Google is a "private company" and therefore exempt?
https://youtu.be/mxSZwDhIHDw

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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2020, 08:37:11 AM »
This has spiralled into bizzare virtue signaling where politicians are scouring neighborhoods trying to find things to classify as racist.  Most recent victim is outdoor swings.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/wireStory/nooses-oakland-park-exercise-aids-man-71314468
'Nooses' in Oakland park were exercise aids, man says

Oakland’s mayor says five ropes found hanging from trees in a city park are nooses and racially-charged symbols of terror but a resident says he put them up simply for exercse