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kaiservontexas

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No Such Thing As To Much
« on: September 30, 2008, 10:36:42 PM »
I made a list recently of preps I would like to obtain. It struck me that in my view there is really no such thing as to much except for the fact that money and storage space as limitations. Now when I mean by to much I do not mean gear, but the consumables such as food, water, ammo, nails, nuts, bolts, washers, magazines, fuel, and other said materials.

I am sorry as I do not have any real point. I am just sharing a thought that struck me over the weekend. Well ok I guess the only point I could make would be not to feel overwhelmed if this is all new to you. As sometimes you may feel pressure that you will never be able to obtain all those things you would really want to have squared, but that is why I make lists like the one I made this weekend. It crystallizes my prep needs in my mind. I know I will not be able to obtain tomorrow a 3 year food supply or 100,000 rounds of 7.62x39mm. It would be nice, but Rome was not built over night nor did it fall over night.     

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2008, 10:52:21 PM »
What about a whole silo of corn for yourself?

I don't think I can eat that much corn in a lifetime. **resists the urge to run the numbers**

That silo of corn would sure come in handy if you planned on sharing some though, eh? I guess it wouldn't be too much then.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 12:10:44 AM »
I guess it depends on your plan. If you are bugging out on foot then 5,000 rounds of 9mm is going to be too much to carry. :)

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 08:57:26 AM »
I guess it depends on your plan. If you are bugging out on foot then 5,000 rounds of 9mm is going to be too much to carry. :)

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Have to bug to somewhere though, and that is where the 5,000 rds should be cached.  ;)

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 09:27:04 AM »
I don't know if I have to much or to little, but at least I have something. I wouldn't worry about having 5000 rounds of ammo, just so long as you have some. I look at my shelves and I replenish it when I figure its low enough. I probably store more than the average Joe, I know that when there is a problem I don't have to worry about running to the store and topping off. I will head home turn on the TV and watch everybody scrambling for that last pack of battery's and thinking I am glad I put something away.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 09:31:50 AM »
True, True. I am still working on the bug out location.  ;D

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 03:10:17 PM »
Well, I found that it was possible to reach to 'too much' level when I bought 50 lbs of powdered eggs prior to y2k.  I hang my head in shame - I tried using them at some point to justify the cost but everyone gagged lol ..  So after it was past its prime ... one night I walk down to a swampy area and just cast it out to let it go back to nature.  we are way rural.  dumped some old powdered milk too.  figure the bugs would love it and it would biodegrade ya know.  well, i never ever saw so many flies and stench as I did that summer - and all summer the slow fumes drifted right toward our place..  bears showed up..  my brother laughs uncontrollably every time this story comes up.  :P  But then he's the guy who stocked up on vodka as a potential barter item - though he doesn't drink. not sure whatever happened to it

imho its important to avoid stockpiling too much junk that ties up your resources and takes space to store.  have enough to hunker for weeks/months but also, if your homestead is trashed and burned by looters - or that kind of trouble is on the way - you will want to bug out and leave it behind anyway.  Have one or more caches buried in strategic locations to get you to where you will need to go.  As was said - the 'mind' is the key..   If you hunker in for a long time and its the Great Depression, then it will take working together as community so everyone can organize themselves and help each other out.  Checking on each other, making sure people are ok, helping protect each other, etc.  But man it depends on the scenario.  if you are the guy with a mountain of anything - disposable razors - bicycles - whatever - you would be all setup for bartering.  Ammo is so heavy - not sure how much to store and how long it keeps..  I would imagine that even in Baghdad a small pile of it lasts the average Joe quite awhile.  When it comes to Duct tape and tarps, definitely can't have too many of those. :-)

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2008, 12:42:16 PM »
I would also add that if you buy too much of something at the expense of not enough of something else it could be bad.

How many people do you read about that have $5k or more in guns and ammo and tactical clothing and about 5 gallons of water stored?

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2008, 11:28:04 PM »
True, True. I am still working on the bug out location.  ;D

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Is ok I am still working on that also.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 11:50:38 PM »
I know it's been said before but it bears repeating...stock what you use.  The point is not to have to change your lifestyle, but to be able to continue it as uninterrupted & as normal as possible.  Buy the same things you use now, just buy a little more every time you buy groceries & rotate your stocks.

Aside from the practical aspect of not wasting groceries, in times of turmoil you don't really want to change your diet.  Sometimes the body reacts differently to things it's not accustomed to.  What if those powdered eggs had given someone diarrhea & you had no readily available supply of water to keep them hydrated?  That's a bad thing to learn in a SHTF situation, you've just compounded your problems. 


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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2008, 09:36:01 AM »
I know it's been said before but it bears repeating...stock what you use.  The point is not to have to change your lifestyle, but to be able to continue it as uninterrupted & as normal as possible.  Buy the same things you use now, just buy a little more every time you buy groceries & rotate your stocks.

Aside from the practical aspect of not wasting groceries, in times of turmoil you don't really want to change your diet.  Sometimes the body reacts differently to things it's not accustomed to.  What if those powdered eggs had given someone diarrhea & you had no readily available supply of water to keep them hydrated?  That's a bad thing to learn in a SHTF situation, you've just compounded your problems. 



I have to TOTALLY agree with this.  Very little of my "stockpile" is not stuff that I use every day.  Powdered milk and lamp oil are  the only things that comes to mind at the moment.  Everything else is just having a lot of what I use all the time.

The "lifestyle change" thing is dead on.  The idea is to NOT have to change your lifestyle dramatically if TSHTF.  Sure, you might have to use kerosene lanterns instead of flipping the lightswitch.  But, you don't have to figure out how to cook with the 50lbs of powered eggs. Sorry javaguy.  I had to take the shot. ;D

Keep It Simple!!!!  The last thing you want to do is to have to figure out everything all over again if things do go to Hell. 

So, in conclusion, no you can NOT have too much stuff if it's the stuff you use all the time.  And yes, you can have too much powdered eggs.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2008, 09:57:54 AM »
you don't have to figure out how to cook with the 50lbs of powered eggs
Simple...you make lots of fried rice!  =-D

Balance is always good.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2008, 11:46:40 AM »
I know it's been said before but it bears repeating...stock what you use.  The point is not to have to change your lifestyle, but to be able to continue it as uninterrupted & as normal as possible.  Buy the same things you use now, just buy a little more every time you buy groceries & rotate your stocks.

Aside from the practical aspect of not wasting groceries, in times of turmoil you don't really want to change your diet.  Sometimes the body reacts differently to things it's not accustomed to.  What if those powdered eggs had given someone diarrhea & you had no readily available supply of water to keep them hydrated?  That's a bad thing to learn in a SHTF situation, you've just compounded your problems. 



I stock what I use for that very reason. Not only does it keep you safe from such a problem, but it also provides comfort. The reason I use the term comfort is because it what you are used to, which means normality. Normality in a abnormal time is a morale booster.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2008, 07:02:04 PM »
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Normality in a abnormal time is a morale booster.

Exactly.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2008, 09:33:21 PM »
Powdered milk and lamp oil are  the only things that comes to mind at the moment. 

The powdered milk goes well into things that need to be cooked and calls for milk. I started re-packaging my powdered milk into double washed Spaghetti sauce jars. I printed out some reconstitution instructions on paper, and taped that around the jars to keep the light off the milk.  Great for pancakes, bread, mac and cheese, etc.

Lamp oil. I don't think this will go bad anyhow, so it's not really an item that needs to be rotated. I picked up two fancy glass lamps for 'decoration'. I also have a couple of hurricane lanterns.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2008, 05:25:47 AM »
you don't have to figure out how to cook with the 50lbs of powered eggs
Simple...you make lots of fried rice!  =-D

Balance is always good.

 ;D Fried rice with powdered eggs. :o

Speaking of fried rice...I really need to start making fried rice.  I'm not sure why I never thought of making it before.  Thanks for the nudge BD.

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Re: No Such Thing As To Much
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2008, 05:29:33 AM »
Powdered milk and lamp oil are  the only things that comes to mind at the moment. 

The powdered milk goes well into things that need to be cooked and calls for milk. I started re-packaging my powdered milk into double washed Spaghetti sauce jars. I printed out some reconstitution instructions on paper, and taped that around the jars to keep the light off the milk.  Great for pancakes, bread, mac and cheese, etc.


Exactly!  I've never tried actually drinking the stuff.  But, all the the people who have use terms like "...not that bad" and "...it'll do in a pinch".  So...I'm not exactly chomping at the bit to down a big ol' glass of reconstituted powdered milk.