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Offline joeinwv

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Can you buy black powder locally?
« on: July 16, 2010, 08:55:40 PM »
Was looking today - none at Wal Mart, Ace or local gun shop. Pyrodex was available, but not what I want. I know the larger shop 45 mins away has it, but was surprised I could not find it closer.

I am working on a .177 black powder project with very minimal tools. I can't decide between a mortar and a gonne.

And that is correct, .177 caliber - probably pellets, but would work for BB's.

Seriously, what is cooler than a pellet shooting gonne with a chopstick handle....

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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2010, 07:12:58 AM »
if all else fails, it can't be that hard to make.... or get ingredients.

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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 11:38:43 PM »
The only place I can get black powder locally is at the shop that specializes in black powder arms and accessories.

The federal regulations regarding black powder are much more restrictive than those for black powder substitutes or smokeless powders. Black powder is classified as a group A primary explosive by the United States Department of Transportation. As I understand it group A requires special transportation and storage methods that a diminishing number of retailers are willing to deal with considering the increasing quality and popularity of black powder substitutes. That’s why you will probably find real black powder only at a black powder shop and substitutes everywhere else.

As for making your own, I believe the difficulty lies in getting the powder properly mixed in the correct quantities and more importantly the correct size granules. From what I can tell a ball mill is almost a requirement if you intend to make any usable quantity.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 11:40:57 PM by Dan »

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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2010, 02:42:07 PM »
I was wrong - at largest sporting goods shop in areas today - the place I knew had to have BP - none, don't carry it.

I have one more possible shop - if not, there is no black powder within at least 60 miles of my location.

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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2010, 02:51:57 PM »
as far as making it... the Mythbyusters takled this one a while back... what they found... the consistency was critical, what they ended up with did ignite... but not nearly as big a boom as commercial powders.

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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 01:26:09 PM »
I cannot buy it locally, as we dont have any shops around other than Walmart. I can buy it at Cabelas 30 minutes away, but the price is high.
I have been ordering it by the 25lb lot through Powder Inc. Prices are very good, and they have several varieties to play with. They will even mix lots if you want. The last batch I ordered cost about 225.00 for 25lbs, and I am just about out of it now.
If you do it this way, check your local laws regarding how much you can store, etc, etc... ;)
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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 08:59:22 AM »
I cannot buy it locally, as we dont have any shops around other than Walmart. I can buy it at Cabelas 30 minutes away, but the price is high.
I have been ordering it by the 25lb lot through Powder Inc. Prices are very good, and they have several varieties to play with. They will even mix lots if you want. The last batch I ordered cost about 225.00 for 25lbs, and I am just about out of it now.
If you do it this way, check your local laws regarding how much you can store, etc, etc... ;)
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Yes, check local laws, ask the fire dept chief. Years back, I had a black powder cannon, used 1/2 pound a shot and I shot it alot. I lived in Mass at the time, doing live fire shoots and re-enacting. Then 2 pounds was it, anything more was to be stored in a separate building, fenced to 50 feet, no smoking signs... yadda yadda yadda... I ordered 25Lbs cases, UPS, 2 cases per truck most of the late winter & early spring, as they needed to be signed for. I was a member of the local FD at the time.. True volunteers back then, at one time I have more then 600 pounds in the basement... :-) So it would blow up, not out... Chief knew... and this was long before 9-11.. so life was good...
However, I don't suggest doing or trying this in today's world.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2010, 09:03:50 AM by CaptainRW »

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Re: Can you buy black powder locally?
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 06:07:28 PM »
Yes, check local laws, ask the fire dept chief. Years back, I had a black powder cannon, used 1/2 pound per shot and I shot it alot. I lived in Mass at the time, doing live fire shoots and re-enacting. Then 2 pounds was it, anything more was to be stored in a separate building, fenced to 50 feet, no smoking signs... yadda yadda yadda... I ordered 25Lbs cases, UPS, 2 cases per truck most of the late winter & early spring, as they needed to be signed for. I was a member of the local FD at the time.. True volunteers back then, at one time I have more then 600 pounds in the basement... :-) So it would blow up, not out... Chief knew... and this was long before 9-11.. so life was good...
However, I don't suggest doing or trying this in today's world.