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Title: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on November 05, 2016, 10:00:02 PM
If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?

Brand?

Model?

Caliber?

Why?
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: ncjeeper on November 06, 2016, 12:27:23 AM
My M&P 40.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: scoob on November 06, 2016, 01:14:55 AM
First choice, Springfield 1911 in .45
2nd choice, Springfieldo xdm in .40
Why?  Same reason I like ice cream.
;-)
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Chemsoldier on November 06, 2016, 01:38:15 AM
As an abstract?  A 4 inch S&W 629 is incredibly versatile.  You could load it with everything from range fodder to game loads.  Perhaps in its lighter barrel versions like the mountain gun. Has back country potential, it is moderately concealable if one is willing to make compromises to carry.

Practically though, a Glock 19.  I have a lot of time on it and I know how to maintain it better than any other handgun (more due to how simple it is than anything).  Additionally, at the moment I have no particular need for a back country gun.

1911s, no.  I don't have an extensive background with it and have known and known of too many trainers who started out as 1911 die hards who have changed their opinion to consider it something special without personal experience on my own part. 

XDs, I have very limited experience with them.  I have no complaints about my limited time on them, no one has given me a compelling reason to consider changing to it either.  The XDm line seems pretty nice but the price point is now so close to Glock it doesn't figure for me (as a person of my particular economic situation and willingness to spend on firearms).  Same on M&P, nothing wrong with them that I know of (their 9mm accuracy problem was fixed a long time ago from my understanding), just see no need to get into it.

A thought for those getting into pistols from a survival standpoint.  The Glock is the most popular LE gun in the US.  All of USSOCOM is going to them and it is possible the DoD might adopt it as the US Service Pistol.  If that is the case it would be far the most ubiquitous pistol in the world.  Even if you go with other firearms, it would not be a bad idea to own a common size and caliber Glock (perhaps a 17 or 19) and have a knowledge of their use.  Parts, accessories and maintenance knowledge will be a very common thing.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: FreeLancer on November 06, 2016, 02:04:55 AM
What Chem said.

Except for the Mountain Gun part.  Mine has been problematic with magnum loads and may need to go back to S&W again. 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: David in MN on November 06, 2016, 05:29:17 AM
S&W 686+ 4". It's the one gun that does everything. I'm sure a similar Ruger or Colt would do just as well.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Bolomark on November 06, 2016, 06:44:14 AM
I went with Glock love mine anything in in .400 and above(but even like my G17).
And Ruger Revolver when it talks at the range everyone listens (.44 mag)
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: machinisttx on November 06, 2016, 07:34:41 AM
Either a S&W 27/28 or a S&W 19/66. As much as I like the versatility of the .45 Colt and .44 mag in the proper guns, there is very little need for them outside grizzly country. Even so, the .357 mag with the right load is capable of taking anything in North America, even if it doesn't have as much margin for error as the larger revolvers.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: armymars on November 06, 2016, 09:25:15 AM
Though I never owned one maybe a 357 Sig. because it would work for self defense and hunting.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on November 06, 2016, 09:30:32 AM
A RUGER single action 5 inch stainless 357 magnum, or a 1911 in 45 grizzly
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: phils70 on November 06, 2016, 03:14:43 PM
Ruger Redhawk in .44 mag. Mostly because I have an insane amount of appropriate powders, primers and brass for it. Not to mention buckets and buckets of wheel weights 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: endurance on November 06, 2016, 03:22:23 PM
I have and XD and an M&P Shield.  If I could have only one, I'd opt for the M&P for the simple reason that it's enough firepower for my purposes, but very comfortably and easily concealed.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: soupbone on November 06, 2016, 08:33:24 PM
What do you want to do with it? Hunt? Target? Self Defense? "Survival"? If the latter, I suggest the S&W Military and Police revolver in .357 Mag - Model 13, IIRC. Utterly simple, long lived and reliable with enough power to take almost any animal on the continent. Being a revolver, it has no magazine to loose or bugger up. Fixed sights mean there is nothing to get knocked out of alignment, and if the shooter does his part, can place shots accurately at any handgun distance. The K Frame Smith also has many accessories available from target hammers and triggers to natural wood or rubber oversized grips, which greatly increase shootability and recoil control.

Regarding self defense, the key element in any defensive firearm is reliability. Being strictly mechanical, a quality revolver such as the M-10 / 13 cannot help but be more reliable than any autoloader which is dependent on magazine condition, tightness of hold, spring condition, etc. I have seen some pretty beat up K frames in my shooting days, but I have never seen one which failed to function when needed. Power? Even the .38 Special in its mildest loading is nothing you'd want to stand in front of. In .357 Mag., if the bullet didn't get you, the report and muzzle flash will.  ;D

For hunting and target work, the M&P is limited by a 4" barrel - it may not be legal to hunt with in some states, and most target revolvers have at least 6" barrels. If this is an issue, look at the Combat Magnum (M-19) in a 6" barrel, but be prepared to deal with the disadvantages of adjustable sights.

Plus, it's hard to argue with success. This revolver has been in constant production in one form or another for almost 120 years. Despite what the experts  ::) say, no organization or agency will arm its people with a firearm that does not do its job. At least in the USA.

If I could have only one centerfire handgun, it would be an M-10/13.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: machinisttx on November 06, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
The M10 and it's named, pre 1955ish, predecessors were made with 2", 4" and 6" barrels. The M13 was made in at least 3" and 4" barrel lengths...and it wouldn't be surprising if a few slipped out with longer barrels. Also entirely possible to have a gunsmith fit a longer barrel.

Another option would be the Ruger Security Six/Speed Six/Service Six. IIRC, they were made in both blue and stainless.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on November 07, 2016, 01:22:55 AM
My first deer fell to a Ruger Speed Six ,round butt 357 magnum with fixed sights and TWO INCH BARREL.
And yes,you felt like the hair on your hands would burn off in the muzzle flash.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Arky on November 07, 2016, 07:15:25 AM
Glock 19. Because Glock. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkoYeSqXDE8
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkoYeSqXDE8)
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Smurf Hunter on November 07, 2016, 10:29:58 AM
For post-apocalyptic duty, a revolver has many redeeming qualities, some already mentioned.
It's also considerably simpler to handload and thus improvise home made ammunition for a revolver.

1) pressure/velocity of the cartridge have no mechanical impact on the action.  You could scrape dozens of match heads and make a very weak .38spl charge.  Likewise with primers
2) cartridge dimensions don't matter much - as long as the length doesn't exceed the cylinder, seat depth, projectile shape and case length don't matter.

But we could probably make an argument for flint lock muzzle loaders using this logic too.  :P
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: xxdabroxx on November 07, 2016, 11:03:50 AM
I voted revolver.  High quality .357 with about a 4" barrel.  If you get into reloading you can make a round that suits just about any purpose.  Simple, reliable, somewhat concealable if needed. 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on November 07, 2016, 11:18:50 PM
That's Awesone everybody glad this is a popular thread👍😀✝🇺🇸
My thinking was if you could only have one handgun. Not only gun period.
You guys make some great points.
A lot more revolvers than I would have thought no problem there I enjoy revolvers.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on November 08, 2016, 02:25:38 AM
I am glad you approve.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on November 13, 2016, 05:49:48 PM
No Berettas Guys 😑

Well mine would be my Wilson Combat Beretta 92G
Great handgun. Reliable, Super Accurate what else do I need to say?
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on November 14, 2016, 01:41:44 AM
No Berettas Guys 😑

Well mine would be my Wilson Combat Beretta 92G
Great handgun. Reliable, Super Accurate what else do I need to say?

We could only have ONE.

The Browning Hi Power would be #2 and Beretta 92 would be #3 for me
just behind the 44 revolver.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: David in MN on November 14, 2016, 05:55:25 AM
No Berettas Guys 😑

Well mine would be my Wilson Combat Beretta 92G
Great handgun. Reliable, Super Accurate what else do I need to say?

It's on my wish list if I get to another 9mm. I think Chem and I have waxed poetic the G series before and it seems Wilson is the cure for Italian design.

That said, if I had to pick a 9 it would be H&K. I love my USP despite its German foibles ($50 plastic mags? Es tut weh [it hurts]).

But you said one gun. And whether I'm carrying for mountain lions at the archery range, packing a backup for a hunting trip, or putting something in the nightstand it's a wheelgun.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Chemsoldier on November 14, 2016, 09:34:30 AM
It's on my wish list if I get to another 9mm. I think Chem and I have waxed poetic the G series before and it seems Wilson is the cure for Italian design.


As I sit here on deployment, I do so with an M9.  I have pimped it slightly with Wilson Combat slimline grips and Beretta Factory M9A3 magazines (17 rounders).  One of my comrades is running around with 93R mags (20 rounders) in his.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on November 16, 2016, 12:23:41 AM
I think a medium .357 3-5" barrel would be a great choice for anything on the eastern side of the US
Not that a .357 wouldn't take an elk big bear or moose but if your on the Wilderside of the country a .41 / 44 would be a good choice.

But if you take hunting out of the mix and you had a rifle or shotgun for that I'd say a Glock 19 would be a safe bet for most people.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Steve Cover on November 20, 2016, 12:44:14 PM
Smith & Wesson
M-19
357 magnum
Versatility.

Small enough to carry all the time if need be.
(This means that if I really needed it, I would probably have it on me)
I prefer a shoulder holster, but inside the waistband works in warm weather.
It can shoot everything from primer powered wax bullets up to full magnum loads.
Wax is great for indoor practice and can take a squirrel off a low hanging branch in a survival situation if I need to be quiet.
38 Wad cutters are great, very accurate, small game loads.
The Jacketed SP can take a deer at reasonable ranges. (<75 Yards)
The 357 has a great reputation as a self defense round.
I also reload Snake Shot loads.
For survival, I have 357 Magnum flares too.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: CPT Morgan on December 15, 2016, 02:41:38 PM
How much does it really matter, when the real purpose of a handgun is to use it to get to your rifle?  ;D
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: xxdabroxx on December 15, 2016, 03:25:27 PM
How much does it really matter, when the real purpose of a handgun is to use it to get to your rifle?  ;D

That was Cooper who said that right? 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: CPT Morgan on December 15, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
That was Cooper who said that right?

Not sure, but love it.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Noah Darco on December 15, 2016, 11:22:37 PM
I'd have a reliable wheelgun. Never shot one I didn't like.

And, unlike with tactical tupperware, I can actually hit the broad side of a barn with a revolver.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Chemsoldier on December 16, 2016, 12:43:39 AM
That was Cooper who said that right?
To my understanding, not exactly.

something like it may have ended up in the pages of The Gargantuan Gunsite Gossip series, however that series is made up heavily of other people's sayings.  He admitted it, it was an informational clearing house in the days before te interwebz. 

The most frequently attributed sayings like it I can recall include

something along the lines of: "Your handgun exists to fight your way to your rifle that you should not have put down in the first place." which is often attributed to Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch fame.

It also skirts on the edge of "A handgun is a piece of sh*t" which I think is attributed to Yeager, paragon of moderation and nuanced conversation that he is.

Cooper swore up and down on numerous occasions that the .45 ACP would reliably stop a person with a single hit, which is not in fashion as a claim these days.

Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Bradbn4 on December 16, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
Part of me says 1911 in 9mm, but I don't have one of those and I found it more of a pain to reload 9mm.  However, the weight of a 1911 makes the 9mm round a fun and easy to shoot.

The other part of me says simple can be best; revolver using moon clips to keep things simple is what would consider ideal for how I shoot.   No worry about lost brass, and the low powered straight wall bass I can almost reload them forever.

Both 38 spl, 357, and 45 acp seems to me the easiest to reload and they give you the flexibility to shoot cheap lead rounds or  jacketed bullets. 

For the 'odd ball' side of me; I kind of like my old style Contender chambered in .223.  But that is not that useful being a single shot, other maybe to shoot specialty rounds that would not function in a semi-automatic rifle. 

If I only wanted a farm pistol when I go out in the woods, it is hard to say no to the fantastic plastic firearms.  Not much worry about rust or getting rained on is always a good plus.

Bottom  line it; revolver in 357 mag, stainless steel in a 4" - 6' barrel.   Pickup a good steel series Henry big boy in matching Cal to keep my reloading life simple. 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: CPT Morgan on December 16, 2016, 11:40:58 AM
revolver in 357 mag, stainless steel in a 4" - 6' barrel.   Pickup a good steel series Henry big boy in matching Cal to keep my reloading life simple.

If it had to come to this [and it never will] I agree with this reasoning.  I love my wife's stainless GP100 and so does she.  Though she likes it best because it looks bad a$$, can be seen from a distance, and screams don't mess with me because this thing is "bad a$$".  I like it because it's easy to shoot accurately, especially when it is using .38 Specials and it makes a big hole when using .357 defense rounds.  It's very reliable and fairly easy to reload for.  As stated, the ammo works well in a rifle too, which can be very effective even as a short-range hunting firearm.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Chris Gilliam on December 16, 2016, 02:55:10 PM
No Berettas Guys 😑

I'd most likey choose the 92. Just cuz it's like an extension of my hand, and I've fired out to 200 yards.
Love the 5" barrel.

Browning Hi-Power close 2nd.

The new Glock G40 could probably win me over tho...
I like big guns and I can not lie....
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on December 17, 2016, 09:49:26 PM
Just did some trading for a new Ruger Match Champion .357 GP 100 4" I see your guys' points

But I personally would not pick it over any of my Berettas

But that's why  they make different models 😎

To each his own ✝👍
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Alan Georges on December 17, 2016, 10:50:13 PM
And, unlike with tactical tupperware, I can actually hit the broad side of a barn with a revolver.

Just the opposite for me, revolvers aren't my thing.  Just give me a G17 or 19 and and all's right with the world.  If I had to pick one, it'd be a 19 because that's marginally concealable.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on January 01, 2017, 06:07:16 PM
Just Got a Ruger GP 100 Match Champion GOD is Good great all around Gun

When I started the threat the question was posed if you could have only one Centerfire handgun.
My thought being you could have a long gun or two.

But I think a lot of people were thinking it would be there Only Gun
That's cool to if the Handgun was your only firearm it would be hard to argue against a solid .357

So Versitile.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: CPT Morgan on January 01, 2017, 06:21:57 PM
When I started the threat the question was posed if you could have only one Centerfire handgun.
My thought being you could have a long gun or two.

But I think a lot of people were thinking it would be there Only Gun
That's cool to if the Handgun was your only firearm it would be hard to argue against a solid .357

You won't get an argument from me.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: armymars on January 02, 2017, 10:04:26 AM
I love my Mateba. Too bad they'er so temperamental.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 02, 2017, 12:58:57 PM
I love my Mateba. Too bad they'er so temperamental.

I repaired a few with bad metallurgy and most of the shooters in my area gave up on them.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on January 02, 2017, 09:23:56 PM
Ruger makes a black hawk
That comes with two cylinders one .38  / .357
The second in 9mm

Chiappa Rhino also has a 38/.357/ 9mm listed it's a bouble action never seen one in person.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: endurance on January 03, 2017, 05:49:28 AM
Just Got a Ruger GP 100 Match Champion GOD is Good great all around Gun

When I started the threat the question was posed if you could have only one Centerfire handgun.
My thought being you could have a long gun or two.

But I think a lot of people were thinking it would be there Only Gun
That's cool to if the Handgun was your only firearm it would be hard to argue against a solid .357

So Versitile.
But that gets back to: For What?
If I'm going to be in the woods with no contact with civilization for a decade my answer is going to be a lot different than if I'm still going to live where I live now with a lifestyle not that unlike I have today. If I'm going to work everyday that is different than if I'm working in my garden everyday.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 03, 2017, 07:55:38 AM
I tend to agree as I have CARRY,HUNTING,PLAY TIME,GOING INTO HARMS WAY,and 'just for fondling; pistols...
Maybe he want's to know your choice of 'one size fits all' handgun.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: CPT Morgan on January 03, 2017, 09:18:21 AM
If I'm going to work everyday that is different than if I'm working in my garden everyday.

Good point.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: endurance on January 03, 2017, 04:51:43 PM
I tend to agree as I have CARRY,HUNTING,PLAY TIME,GOING INTO HARMS WAY,and 'just for fondling; pistols...
Maybe he want's to know your choice of 'one size fits all' handgun.
Ha!  I can't even make up my mind on once concealed carry gun.  I have a summer and a winter gun.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on January 03, 2017, 11:38:47 PM
Just a thought experiment
Pick a good all around hand gun

Think of this and don't cry! 😩
If you were forced to give up all but one of your handguns what would you keep???
Or if you had to got rid off all yours and choose just one what would you pick up?
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: khristopher23 on January 04, 2017, 03:39:34 AM
My small handgun collection so far consists of a Colt Series 70 reissue, a Glock 19, a 442 J-Frame, a 629 Classic (5 inch), and a Ruger MKIII Target model. If I had to give them all up but one, it would be the 1911 I would keep. If I lived in a more urban or suburban setting, I might lean more towards the Glock 19, but as it is now, in rural North GA, I prefer something a little heavier than a 9mm. If a .45acp or 10mm Glock fit my hand a little better, I would probably go with that.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: CPT Morgan on January 04, 2017, 09:42:08 AM
Just a thought experiment
Pick a good all around hand gun

Think of this and don't cry! 😩
If you were forced to give up all but one of your handguns what would you keep???
Or if you had to got rid off all yours and choose just one what would you pick up?

Going back to the statement made earlier by Endurance, would the choice be based on my current lifestyle, with no changes predicted in the near future, or would it be in preparation for TEOTWAWKI?

If we're simply picking our favorite handgun, I really like my G22 and wouldn't want it to go away.  Thankfully I can not think of a realistic condition that would exist, leaving me with just once choice, because there are so many reasons to want/need more than one.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: endurance on January 04, 2017, 12:20:26 PM
For me, the one I have no excuses to not have with me is my Shield 9mm. So small and yet accurate and enjoyable to shoot. If I lived in winter where I have more bulky clothing on more of the time, my XD9 is perfect and up to much more heavy lifting.

I miss my GP100 for a woods gun and if I buy another handgun, it'll be a 4" GP100, but it was an awful gun to carry in the city and try to conceal.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: shadowalker_returns on January 21, 2017, 09:36:52 AM
I Hate the one gun question. It always makes me feel like i'm cheating on my wife...
But hands down its a Glock 19. For three reasons 1) Reliability 2) Capacity 3) Concealability.

I can fit a loaded Glock 19, holster, 3 spare mags and a 100 rnds of spare 9mm in a small locked case that carries easily in my briefcase or luggage. I know cause I do it (alot) nowadays. So i can rearm myself quickly if I should need to as I often work in areas were open or concealed carry are prohibited.

Regards,
Shadowalker

PS: My second gun... Ruger SS. Blackhawk .44Mag/.45 Colt (I really love that gun)
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: shadowalker_returns on January 21, 2017, 09:55:43 AM
That was Cooper who said that right?

No. It was Clint Smith and its a bullshit statement for Civilians and Survivalists. It was stated to a group of LEOs and Military. It was not meant for the consumption of the masses. For them its relevant and makes the point of ALWAYS having your primary weapon prepped, ready and available to use right now. Its a poor philosophy for those who are not in their situation. If you are a civilian involved in a shooting to save your life or another's life you don't have time to "get to your rifle" you need to solve the tactical equation right there and right now or you loose. I've never been a LEO. I am ex-military and have used a firearm there and to defend myself as a civilian. The reason we carry a handgun on us is because we don't have easy access to a more suited weapon.

Regards,
Shadowalker
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: shadowalker_returns on January 21, 2017, 09:59:05 AM
How much does it really matter, when the real purpose of a handgun is to use it to get to your rifle?  ;D

ChemSoldier got the attribution right.
oops my previous reply was to include this quote as well for context... Sorry about the flub  :o

Regards,
Shadowalker
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 21, 2017, 10:05:06 AM
  OK, I gave you KARMA for the BlackHawk , Built like a tank and a favorite for handgun hunting and metallic silhouette.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: shadowalker_returns on January 21, 2017, 10:05:37 AM
I tend to agree as I have CARRY,HUNTING,PLAY TIME,GOING INTO HARMS WAY,and 'just for fondling; pistols...
Maybe he want's to know your choice of 'one size fits all' handgun.

"and just for fondling; pistols" 
Are we related!  ;D

Regards,
Shadowalker
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: shadowalker_returns on January 21, 2017, 10:07:07 AM
  OK, I gave you KARMA for the BlackHawk , Built like a tank and a favorite for handgun hunting and metallic silhouette.

Thank you,  :)

Regards,
Shadowalker
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: NWPilgrim on January 22, 2017, 12:58:34 AM
My standard handgun is a .40S&W Glock.  I have the G22, G23, and G27.  If limited to one I would go with the G23.  I also have a 9mm conversion barrel and .222LR conversion slide for it.  I like it for all the common reasons and there are lots of third party sources for parts and some of the least expensive and reliable mags.

But I would be sorely tempted to go with my M29 .44 mag mountain gun (4").  I enjoy it the most with everything from light Cowboy loads to flaming throwing magnum loads 240gr - 300 gr.  It has round butt grips and just feels great in my hand.  But practically, if I ever faced more than one attacker I would want the Glock, not a six-shooter.

There are a lot of great guns out there though: M&P, 1911, XD, SIG, HK, CZ, etc.  And I would not feel too terrible if limited to just my S&W k-frame .38, either.  Or my hi-power. 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on January 22, 2017, 07:16:51 PM
Ok Ok how's this to narrow down the confusion.

You have to pick one handgun today. You don't know what the future holds just like real life. The economy could improve or crash and burn. The Government could get more or less oppressive. Life for you could go on just as it has or the Apacalypse could happen tomorrow. Just like life now who knows???

You can have other long guns but, Pick one handgun. To keep for the rest of your life.

OKay what is it???

Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: FreeLancer on January 22, 2017, 08:47:14 PM
Glock 23
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: fred.greek on January 22, 2017, 09:03:52 PM
The wife and daughter trained on .22’s.  We then tried a number of “more effective” calibers, and finally settled on .38/.357 revolver & lever carbine.  It’s what worked for them. 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: shadowalker_returns on January 22, 2017, 10:23:24 PM
Ok Ok how's this to narrow down the confusion.

You have to pick one handgun today. You don't know what the future holds just like real life. The economy could improve or crash and burn. The Government could get more or less oppressive. Life for you could go on just as it has or the Apacalypse could happen tomorrow. Just like life now who knows???

You can have other long guns but, Pick one handgun. To keep for the rest of your life.

OKay what is it???

Again for me its the Glock 19. Its not great at anything but does everything well.Since I have long guns available so I don't need a larger handgun caliber than 9mm. Any other quality handgun that meets the three requirements I listed above would also do me.

Regards,
Shadowalker
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 23, 2017, 05:42:35 AM
 Under the 'new' rule of what is your most likly everyday gun...

My 44 special Charter Arms Bulldog Pug has given comfort while in my pocket,taken deer,and been the house pistol for over 10 years.
It is small,easy to holster or pocket,works every time,powerful,and the business end looks like a cannon.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: armymars on January 23, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
Carl,
  Works for me. My Ruger Flat Top in 44 Sp. Is my house gun after I changed the grips.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on January 23, 2017, 10:26:32 PM
Nice guys .44 special is an underrated round.
I think I'll start a new topic for underrated rounds.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: David in MN on January 27, 2017, 02:22:36 PM
I'll stay with my 4" .357. Yes, I can (begrudgingly) carry it but I also bring it to parts of the state where mountain lions are routinely spotted. On rare days I find myself in wolf country as well...

I also think that as outdoors folk go, the farther north you go the bigger bang you probably need. I have friends in Alaska who mock my puny .357.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 27, 2017, 05:37:06 PM
I'll stay with my 4" .357. Yes, I can (begrudgingly) carry it but I also bring it to parts of the state where mountain lions are routinely spotted. On rare days I find myself in wolf country as well...

I also think that as outdoors folk go, the farther north you go the bigger bang you probably need. I have friends in Alaska who mock my puny .357.

I have taken HOGS and deer with a 2 3/8 bbl Ruger speed 6 pocket 357 mag...one deer at 75 yards..in good hands it is enough
unless the game is trying to eat you.The 44 spec bulldog just feels a tad more refined.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: FreeLancer on January 27, 2017, 06:19:03 PM
Under the 'new' rule of what is your most likly everyday gun...

My 44 special Charter Arms Bulldog Pug has given comfort while in my pocket,taken deer,and been the house pistol for over 10 years.
It is small,easy to holster or pocket,works every time,powerful,and the business end looks like a cannon.

Is this similar to what you have?

https://www.turners.com/charter-arms/charter-arms-stainless-bulldog-2678 (https://www.turners.com/charter-arms/charter-arms-stainless-bulldog-2678)

It's on sale locally and I'm tempted. Half the weight of my N frame would be nice.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 27, 2017, 06:29:59 PM
Is this similar to what you have?

https://www.turners.com/charter-arms/charter-arms-stainless-bulldog-2678 (https://www.turners.com/charter-arms/charter-arms-stainless-bulldog-2678)

It's on sale locally and I'm tempted. Half the weight of my N frame would be nice.

YES, the BULLDOG PUG was the first charter with a shroud protecting the ejector rod (I think the first)
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: FreeLancer on January 27, 2017, 08:29:35 PM
YES, the BULLDOG PUG was the first charter with a shroud protecting the ejector rod (I think the first)

Well, if it's been stone-cold reliable for you for a decade, maybe I should go get me one. 

I'm a little skeptical about the quality at that price point, especially since I've never actually seen one, but if the thing goes bang every time I want it to, I won't argue about it. 
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 28, 2017, 04:04:15 AM
The trigger was a little rough and though I could have done a trigger job on it , I prefered to uas a bit of valve grinding compound
to lubricate any moving parts and then dry fired it for many hundreds of rounds with empty cases ,fired primers in place
(snap caps would be better) to prevent any over stress and vibration of parts.
Then into the ultrasonic cleaner and silicon lube call SUPERLUBE and I have needed nothing but cleaning after logging some 15,000 rounds
on the firing line as a range training  and practice on paper...It shoots where I want it to by muscle memory and I don't consciously look at the sites.

  Try this: look at a target on the wall etc,even in periphery,point your finger or empty weapon at it ...THEN CHECK THE SITES...your mind
will line the sites without a thought ,like walking or riding a bike so many things your mind handles for you,
The force is with you..it is the incredible power of your mind.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: FreeLancer on January 28, 2017, 08:06:46 PM
Well, Carl, you talked me into it, I paid for and started the background check on the Bulldog today.  Nice size, seems like a real decent piece for not much money.  I'm looking forward to getting it back in my hands in 10 days.


On a side note, California requires handgun purchasers to pass a written test every few years and my certification just expired. However, my magic CCW card waived that requirement and saved me both money and aggravation. It was so weirdly logical, I wondered if I'd accidentally stepped into an alternate reality.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 28, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Well, Carl, you talked me into it, I paid for and started the background check on the Bulldog today.  Nice size, seems like a real decent piece for not much money.  I'm looking forward to getting it back in my hands in 10 days.


On a side note, California requires handgun purchasers to pass a written test every few years and my certification just expired. However, my magic CCW card waived that requirement and saved me both money and aggravation. It was so weirdly logical, I wondered if I'd accidentally stepped into an alternate reality.

I expect a detailed report of first impressions and shooting..it can sting a bit due to light weight and near nuclear power.. at 6'5" AND 300 LBS PLUS ,i
ENJOY THE STING IN MY PALM AS REASSURING. Sorry accidentally hit caps lock.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: FreeLancer on January 28, 2017, 08:29:06 PM
I expect a detailed report of first impressions and shooting..it can sting a bit due to light weight and near nuclear power.. at 6'5" AND 300 LBS PLUS ,i
ENJOY THE STING IN MY PALM AS REASSURING. Sorry accidentally hit caps lock.

So long as it's no worse than shooting .44 Mag in my Mountain Gun, I can live with it.  What defensive rounds do you like to load it with?  I've got no experience with anything other Winchester Silvertips, but I'm sure there's probably better stuff out there.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Carl on January 29, 2017, 04:45:21 AM
  As I was a custom loader for years ,ai have several favorites ..Silvertips loaded to factory spec, Black Talon , Glaser Safety Slugs and my 'normal' load
of 240 grain SOFT CAST ( pure as I can get lead with a gas check) as 44 special will not reliably expand and does not need to...I use the soft lead to prevent ricochet and over penetration of walls etc . The 44 has the size and inertia to not require a second shot to the body and magnum velocity
is a waste that often results in over penetration and loss of knock down or shock damage.

Taurus made a super ,all copper round that I duplicate that is insanely capable at personal range.I make my own,but factory rounds are great.

http://www.oegmag.com/Tauruscopperbullets.html
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: 9mmMaster on January 29, 2017, 06:34:31 PM
I'm not the biggest 44 fan
But the new Smith Model .69 midsize .44 Mag / .44 special would be a great all around gun.
So to would the new Ruger RedHawks .45Colt / .45Acp if you hand load super versatile.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Polar Bear on February 02, 2017, 08:22:45 PM
Old rule:  I'd want a S&W 66 in .357 Magnum.  I need a revolver that can deal with Hog, Coyotes, Burmese Pythons, and bad people.  I use two guns for this now.  A S&W 642 for bad people and a Heritage Big Bore .357 Single Action for the critters. 

New rule:  I'll keep arguing with myself over the two.   :-\
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: PhatForrest on July 15, 2020, 05:44:07 PM
Sig P series, preference being a P226 in 9mm.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Elkhitman on July 19, 2020, 10:27:24 AM
Glock 17 or 19, then a Sig P229. I already have them, all in 9mm. I’m not concerned about 1 shot stops, the adrenaline will be flowing and I’m sure the bullets will fly until the threat is gone. Here’s a good video if you have the time to watch it.

https://youtu.be/wXwPtP-KDNk
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: Bradbn4 on July 19, 2020, 11:24:05 AM
I will go with a glock 22, gen #3 with an aftermarket barrel for 9mm & 22lr.  You can go with real Glock frames or one of the aftermarket ones that improve on the Glock perfection.

Yep; a cheat move on my side but....Max rounds for Glock 22 with normal mag is 15 - fits Colorado's max round count.
9mm conversion barrels are cheap and lets me go down that path.   Most of the parts are the same between the 9mm glock 17 and the 22. 

For fun, a nice 22lr slide conversion for said glock so I have the rim fire option.

Will additional magazines be needed for the conversion between 9mm and 40 cal; yes.

Lone wolf for the barrel conversion.  Cheap top slides at Aim Surplus if you want to go with a dedicated slide.

If I did not live in Colorado I would prob say go with a Glock 17, gen 3. 



Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: DDJ on July 20, 2020, 11:00:36 AM
If I could only have 1 I would have the Glock 22 in 40 (love the idea of adding a 9mm barrel).  Not because I like it, I am not sold on the 40 I do not have a 40 would likely not get one.  I have a Glock 19 in 9mm but I am not the most comfortable with it.  I will not go as far as hate but... The 22 in 40 is because that is what the police in my area carry and to my understanding most of the country.  So spare parts and accessories will be available.  I followed that with the Beretta and 1911 for the same reason they are common. 

My primary handgun us a Ruger simi auto but that is because we are in a "free" country with lots of choices.  Above is why I did not sell my inherited Glock even though I would prefer something else.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: surfivor on July 20, 2020, 12:57:58 PM

 What is the least expensive 9mm or anything that is a bit bigger than a 22 like a 38 ?
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: iam4liberty on July 20, 2020, 01:03:03 PM
What is the least expensive 9mm or anything that is a bit bigger than a 22 like a 38 ?

Hi-Point C9 is the "Saturday Night Special" replacement of today. Typically sells today for about $160.
Title: Re: If you could only have one Centerfire Handgun what would it be?
Post by: surfivor on July 20, 2020, 01:44:14 PM
Hi-Point C9 is the "Saturday Night Special" replacement of today. Typically sells today for about $160.

 That's about all I would probably get. I have thought about it a little