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Title: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 06:54:03 PM
  A dilemma I face is the distinct reality that a major SHTF situation could occur when I'm not home in TN. About 80% of my time is at least 505 miles away in Williamsburg or Yorktown VA, many times I am even further than that. If I'm overseas, I don't really have a chance to get home, but I'll die trying of course. If I'm stateside, I'm going for broke. My family and I have a BOL about 350 miles west of me and 150 or so east of them, but they are to stay put until I come get them. This rule, of course, is dependent on the situation. A radioactive cloud would certainly be reason to move out and wait for me at our eastern BOL. We also have BOL's prerarranged west, south, and north of our TN home.

The title of this thread is based on a suggestion given to me on another thread within TSP. I can't remember who you are but thank you.

  Should I need to get home, and things are really bad as far as overland travel goes, I'll need a reliable multi-purpose vehicle that will give me the best shot at getting there. Additionally, I'll have my Plan B. This would take effect if I had to bail from my BOV and hoof it. My BOB will be part of this thread and it is packed for long-term walking. I spent years humping a ruck through the world's terrain and try to keep myself in shape to do it again if I have to. If this happens I imagine it will be epic, similar to Cold Mountain. Not trying to romanticize it, I realize my chances drop significantly should I need to go to ground.

  In 2004, during one of my hitches in Iraq, I had a brand new 2004 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD V8 with third-row seating delivered to my wife after a personal tragedy (miscarriage). I didn't intend for it to replace our sorrow, just felt like bringing her out of a major slump. She was tickled pink with the gift and I felt it was the best $35k I'd ever spent (100% down, no payments ever plan). At the time a new, safe family vehicle was the right thing for us. We still had 3 out of 5 kids still at home and they fit just fine in there.

  In five years she put 34,800 miles on the truck. Now, after having yet another little girl (my son is the oldest and the five girls came out in a row after that), the four remaining kids are much bigger. Ages 16, 14, 7, and 2. Space was at a premium and I bought her a Toyota Sequoia Limited 4WD. Then I stole her 4Runner. This truck is the basis for my BOV build. It is in outstanding condition and I've done all the maintenance on it myself.

I have some rules that I must abide by;

1. I don't want to ruin the BOV. While I only buy Toyota and keep them until they die of natural causes, I don't want to drive something that will be of no value and too weird. No permanent mods that only hold value for me. I have some experience with this. I previously BOV'd a 1996 Toyota Tacoma and did a pretty fair job. Later I stripped it back to it just being our mulch mover, dog transporter, kid stick-shift trainer, truck that will always be in the family.
2. In addition to the emergency BOV duty, it must serve as a daily driver, a kickass camping vehicle, maintain its 7000 lb towing capacity, look decent, and (with 30 minutes or less of work) revert back to carrying seven passengers.
3. It must have above-average off road capability but in no way do i intend it to become Bigfoot or Grave Digger. Those type vehicles are fun, but not all around great transportation. I will lift it a few inches, eventually I will go bigger on wheels and tires, I might go so far as adding the snorkel kit, I don't know for sure yet. I do know that I will carry plenty of recovery equipment and tools, compressors, etc that will help me be my own tow truck.
4. Can't be too high profile or dressed with bling for blings sake.
5. I will have fun.

The first thing I did was a top to bottom maintenance check. I found nothing worth noting. It is still on its original set of Michelins and I fear that I will have to replace them for just being old (and therefore UV damaged) long before the tread gets bad. They literally have 75%+ of their tread left and are perfectly balanced. Michelins cost more, but they have always been my tire of choice. The synthetic oil (Mobil1 5W-30) that I exclusively use has been a form of cheap insurance in all my vehicles. I won't be convinced to use dino oil ever again in anything. It is on the second set of brake pads and they looked great, so no issues stopping. All the other fluids were looking good and none were due for replacement yet, so I let that go for now. The timing belt won't be scheduled until I have 90k. I drive a lot more than my wife, so I figure 2 years or so.

Anyway, I have no set order in how I will do this, but I have already started. I immediately pulled out the middle row bench and put it in my TN home storage shed. It is wrapped in plastic and will be fine there. The rear two seats are quick release and mount in or dismount out in less than 30 seconds. So I took those with me to VA.

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Size comparison to Sequoia

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4.7 V8

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When I removed the middle bench, I decided that the large void and uneven floor would be used to my advantage.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Klapton on July 28, 2009, 07:05:41 PM
Quote
Should I need to get home, and things are really bad as far as overland travel goes, I'll need a reliable multi-purpose vehicle that will give me the best shot at getting there. Additionally, I'll have my Plan B. This would take effect if I had to bail from my BOV and hoof it. My BOB will be part of this thread and it is packed for long-term walking. I spent years humping a ruck through the world's terrain and try to keep myself in shape to do it again if I have to. If this happens I imagine it will be epic, similar to Cold Mountain. Not trying to romanticize it, I realize my chances drop significantly should I need to go to ground.

Nothing romantic about it.  If it goes down like that, it's gonna SUUUUUUUCK!

Sounds like a neat project!  It should keep you busy for a while.  Will a winch be among your tools?  I'm not an off-roader or anything, but I've seen enough pictures of 4x4s being dragged out of something with a winch to know I'd want one if I was going off road in any serious manner.  Is there any stealthy way of putting a mount on the car for a winch?  (Just throwing out ideas here.)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 07:20:55 PM
I also decided I wanted dual battery capability. I previously had an Optima Bluetop as my second battery in the Tacoma (TacoBago was its nickname). I loved this battery and was happy to get to use it again. The Bluetop can be mounted sideways or upside down and needs no venting like a conventional battery does. I planned to install it behind the air cleaner with a Perko Battery Switch and isolator. This is as it was in the Tacobago. But then decided I wanted even more capability. So I decided that soon I would buy another Bluetop and keep this one as a portable. I'll get the dual battery setup going later. For now I took the current Bluetop and placed it inside a battery box that I had laying around.

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They make boxes just for this purpose, but they cost around $45 and don't do any more than mine does.

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I ran 6 ga wire to the terminals that I can use as recharging points, mounted a 12 volt outlet to it, and best of all mounted a 750 watt inverter with two 110 and one USB charger to the top.

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Here it is inside one of my tents, the excess black wire on the tent floor is part of a LCD TV/DVD 12 volt power cord. The battery box is light enough to carry around the campsite and I use it for many power needs. I plan to buy a solar panel to recharge it for longer term camping trips, but it never seems to run down anyway. Additionally, a small Honda generator is in the cards.

I used styrofoam to make the battery fit tight and strapped the box shut. I plan to eventually build a storage bin within the 505 to keep it secure.


Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on July 28, 2009, 08:16:57 PM
I'm looking forward to more....
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
Nothing romantic about it.  If it goes down like that, it's gonna SUUUUUUUCK!

Sounds like a neat project!  It should keep you busy for a while.  Will a winch be among your tools?  I'm not an off-roader or anything, but I've seen enough pictures of 4x4s being dragged out of something with a winch to know I'd want one if I was going off road in any serious manner.  Is there any stealthy way of putting a mount on the car for a winch?  (Just throwing out ideas here.)


Way ahead of you Klapton. I plan on a winch (likely a Warn) that will be mountable in the rear tow hitch and the eventual front tow hitch. They do make hidden mounts but they seem to affect ground clearance or limit the winch's capability. A hitch that will be stored inside will reduce my signature, be out of the elements, and be versatile for front or rear situations. Currently I have an 8000 lb come-along, a tow chain, a snatch block, a tow rope, an e-tool, a jack (but getting a Hi-Lift soon), shackles and clevis', a compressor, and other things I'm probably forgetting. I also learned how to make your drive wheels (all 4 in my case) into a sort of winch mechanism (Army stuff).

Some recovery and safety stuff I have now;

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Come-Along 4000 lb vertical lift, 8000 horizontal. The way we did things before winches (as broke redneck kids anyway).

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Snatch block. A snatch block doubles the pulling power of a winch and/or allows you to change what direction you are being pulled from.

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A real crowbar. Because shit happens.

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A Fyr Fyter extinguisher. Actually have a couple from Northern Tool. You never know when one might save the day.

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My 2 inch hitch and ball, booster cables, large tie down strap, 300 watt inverter, circuit tester, and WD-40. This all hides inside the right rear inside fenderwall panel.

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Inside left fenderwall panel. Jack, and the collapsible 4-way lug wrench, road flares, ice scraper, and one of my survival kits. I'll cover the survival kits later, but I will say it is one of the best for my purposes.

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Boltcutters. Because shit happens.

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A 1 and 7/8ths hitch, Prodigy brake controller, soft tiedowns, spare fuses, and plug adapters. This box fits into the subfloor I built.

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Additionally, in the subfloor, I've added a tow strap, bungee cords, 4 shackles, and 2 ratcheting tiedowns.

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The e-tool, the siphon, the tire repair stuff ,and my air compressor.

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The e-tool. It folds up and fits inside one of the ammo cans.

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The siphon. I have one for fuel and one for water.

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The slime tire repair sealant and the tire plug kit. A must have item for self-recovery. I'd use the Hi=Lift and vehicle weight to break the bead on the rim and the starter fluid method to remount it.

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Starter fluid. Won't work on a fuel injected engine, but a three second burst into a unbeaded tire with a quick flick of the Bic and WHOOSH!...the tire is filled and ready to roll. Works really well and looks cool to watch too.

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Prodigy Brake Controller. I have a 26' 2006 Travel Trailer at my western BOL.

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Part of my vehicle access kit. The hotwire setup is for older vehicles. I also have but won't show my other tools that will allow me to have "options" and all kinds of other tricks. I never violate the law with this stuff, I break no law by owning it either. If SHTF I guess I might reassess my policy.

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The 1 7/8ths hitch and ball.

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The 7 into 4 plug adapter. I have a utility trailer that fits this and the 1 7/8ths.

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The Slime 12 volt air compressor. Inflates a tire from flat to 40 lbs in three minutes.

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Nice bag, accurate air gauge, accessory kit, and plugs into either a 12 volt (stock) or with the battery clamp adapter it attaches directly to the vehicle battery.

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Has a nice light to help you with your poor vis tire problems. It only cost $52 at Wally World and I have used it to reinflate after beach driving in the Outer Banks recently. Plenty of air hose length and power cord length too. I like it.

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The Res Q Me. Glass breaking and seatbelt cutting. Mine is 550'd to the drivers visor so it doesn't fall under the seat when I need it most. It can also be used as a keychain, but i avoid bulky keychains.

Most of this stuff will go in the subfloor, but a few things will be mounted elsewhere as I develop and experiment.











Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on July 28, 2009, 08:39:09 PM
This is AWESOME so far.  Thanks for posting it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 08:44:50 PM
I got rid of the stock stereo and added the Kenwood DNX 5140. It has a Garmin with traffic notification (my favorite GPS system), Bluetooth, DVD, CD, full iPod compatability including video, rear view camera, USB, AM/FM, and a bunch of stuff i may never use.

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Garmin. My Yorktown cottage.

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The phone is one of my favorite parts of the entire system. I tell it to dial whoever and it pauses anything else it is doing, dials, connects, and I talk without touching a thing (I can if I want to, but not necessary). It detects the phone in my pocket and I never have to fish it out. When we hang up, it unpauses and I listen to more Jack Spirko.

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 It also is compatible with the rear seat DVD/game system in the back. Doubt I ever need it, but the kids sure as hell enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 09:24:44 PM
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I added another 12 volt that stays hot with the key off. Can't have too many of these. I think I'm up to five now.

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I cut a shelf out of 3/4 inch plywood to even the floor where the middle bench was. I originally made a cardboard template to make sure i didn't screw it up.

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I covered it with carpet that was 3M'd and staple gunned. I test fitted it. It looked pretty good and now my floor was even across its entire length (over 7').

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Next, I bought a heavy duty truck bed mat and used the rear floormat and my newly-cut plywood insert to trace a template out on it. I used a silver Sharpie marker that is designed to write on dark surfaces.

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I cut it with a new razor knife and made careful cutouts for the 4 tiedowns and rear seat mounts. This would allow me to keep all the capability it came with. The rubber mat helps protect the original carpet, deadens noises, and stops stuff from sliding back there.

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I remounted one of the rear third row jump seats. It fit well and the leg room is limo-like. I love that, in 2 minutes, I can go from a two seat cargo vehicle with a 7 foot secure bed to a four seater.By flipping them up I retain most of the load capacity. In 20 minutes I can pull the insert out and bolt in the middle bench and have seven passenger seating again. So far, nothing isn't easily reversed back to stock.

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I added Iggee seat covers. They match perfectly. I still have to tie and strap them in per the instructions, but they fit pretty good without that already. Very pleased.

Under the subfloor insert i built, I have the four ammo cans with recovery items, a small dome tent, a 4 season sleeping bag, and a few other items. I still have room for a 48" Hi-Lift Jack, the Come-Along, my M1 Carbine and several hundred rounds.

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The Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine Tactical. I added a rail and have a red dot for it, but the irons work so well I just can't bring myself to put it on. Great shooting and very light rifle. This is not a WWII/Korea gun, it is a brand new production of one with a modern synthetic stock (Choate folding).

I now think I have a good "blank canvas" where I can really start to use my imagination.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 10:01:39 PM
I stole this truck from my wife less than a month ago. Everything you see that I added/changed was done in that month. This was not easy as i was on an "away" for some time there also. But, when i get my head into a project i just can't stop.

I took it to the Outer Banks (Frisco NPS) a couple weeks ago. here is the write up of that trip (just a copy of the email i sent to my family);

  I took a break this weekend and headed to the Outer Banks, more specifically, Frisco National Park in Cape Hatteras NC. It rained hard all Friday night, but I did get my camp set up between showers. It was a nice spot between some sand dunes at the very back of the park. No one else was anywhere near me. On the way down from Kitty Hawk I began craving seafood but couldn't stop to eat because of encroaching nightfall and bad weather. On impulse, I stopped at a fresh seafood market and picked myself out the best looking piece of swordfish I could find. After setting up camp somewhat, I was starving. I started the coals and threw the fish on with some mango lime sauce, flashes of lightning threatening to zap me or my fish. Either one would piss me off. I didn't know how long to cook it, but when I felt things were right, I pulled it off. It was the best piece of fish I've ever had! It melted in my mouth. The stars came out in a circle just above my head and I gazed skyward as I literally gulped that poor fish. He needs to know his sacrifice was not in vain. I chased it down with a Corona as I listened to the next thunderstorm roll in. It pounded the tent and I felt like the last soul in the world as flashes lit the sky and the wind whipped at the fabric. It was almost like being at sea without the vomiting. The wind forced the water into the zippers. I wasn't dry and the humidity finished making sure I was wet. I slept fitfully as the kerosene lantern rocked back and forth creating shadows that startled me more than once.
   I awoke to the sound of the surf. It was cloudy out but I made some coffee and debated ending my trip right then and there. As if to answer, God sent a shaft of light right onto my tent. I decided to stay. I packed me a little ditty bag for the beach and hiked down the boardwalk. The gnarly growth stunted trees, ravaged by the salt air, created a covered path along the weathered wooden planks that led to the dunes. The post-storm surf was loud and angry looking. Few people were visible as far as my old eyes could see. There were no visible structures save the famous Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, at 208 feet it was hard to miss, even though it was almost ten miles distant. I set up the chair and immediately jumped into the maelstrom, even at low tide it was powerful. The surf was strong but invigorating. The sky was in turmoil all day. The sun remained over the sea and the dark boiling clouds stayed just off the beach. Each feinting towards the other like a supernatural battle between ancient Greek gods.
   Eventually, after a couple hours, people decided to come out and the beach began to fill with sunseekers and 4WD trucks. I wanted to drive on the beach myself and went back and grabbed the 4Runner. Even though the signs said to lower my tire pressure to 20 or less, I went with 30. I have spent years driving in the sands of the various places on this earth and knew I could always lower it more if I needed. I shifted into 4LO and locked the differential. The truck came alive. Like it wanted to play, but I restrained myself,barely. It felt almost visceral, Modern Machine v. Mother Nature. It was a draw. Eventually I parked and went swimming at least three more times, enjoying more lime laced Coronas between my otter-like frolics. I watched the tide reach its zenith and start regressing in the never-ending cycle.
   Alas, it came to pass that the sun dropped a little lower. I had used some suntan lotion earlier but my frequent swims must have scrubbed it off. I burned...badly. I didn't care, still don't, though I look like a lobster and feel like a recently boiled one.
   I went back and ruined a steak on the grill. When it was good and dark, I returned to the beach and stared at the stars. I think I could see every one of them. No moon and no light pollution makes for a dynamic nightime sky. Cassiopeia confirmed Polaris and I confirmed my relative insignificance in the overall scheme of things. Finally I returned to the tent, and this time I was able to just use the tent screens and enjoyed the sea breeze blowing across my recently toasted carcass. About 4am the rain began again, but I didn't care. I slept like the dead as water dripped on me here and there.
   When I packed up in the morning I was thankful that I'd had these two days and was sad to drive away.
 


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I burned some that day.

I have a whole lot more to post and a lot more project to go yet. Have to take off friday for a week but I'll keep you guys posted.

Goatdog
















Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Copyright 1972 on July 28, 2009, 10:30:30 PM
Great build Goatdog!  You picked a great platform to start with!

Two suggestions for your build:

1) ARB air lockers to give you instant TRUE 4 wheel drive at the touch of a button.  This is kind of a permanent ( ie, expensive to remove ) mod, but if you ever need it, and don't have it, you'll wish you had it ( did that make sense?  ???  ) this might be a good time to re-gear your axles depending on how tall you go in the tire dept.

2) An ARB ( or equivalent ) all steel bumper front, and rear with D-rings, and the works.  The kind of bumpers you can use to push your way through stuff, or use in combination with your high-lift jack to lift your truck up.

Just my $.02

Good luck with yer' build!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 28, 2009, 10:43:17 PM
I appreciate your comments C-Right 72. I have debated back and forth on the ARB bumper (or ShrockWorks). I can afford it and I love the look. It just screams "Prepper here...come and steal me!"

I may be a little paranoid about that. It is part of the reason i wish to hide the winch inside, I always have. Still undecided. Maybe just a bull bar, maybe the full ARB.

The air lockers are something I'm still reading up on. I need to maintain normal highway gearing because i drive that 505 miles a couple times a month. I really can't make the truck too off-road oriented, just capable above the average. I am intensely studying the six bugout routes I have picked out and focusing on the tougher terrain. The worst stuff is here on the coast and in the mountains near my destination. In between is just farm country.

I really have no rock crawling plans as things would have to go seriously wrong for that to happen.

I guess i'm saying i'm undecided on how much capability might be needed. I'll probably have a few questions for you on the air lockers soon.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on July 29, 2009, 07:25:25 AM
what about extra/auxiliary fuel?  say you get to go the long long long way home.  what's the range on your vehicle?  does it have the biggest gas tank  they make for that model?   a bigger gas tank is a easy swap and no one will know.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: archer on July 29, 2009, 12:51:32 PM
That is a sweet ride GoatDog! Keep us updated.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TrashCanMan on July 29, 2009, 01:00:13 PM
Really enjoyed reading this.  Thanks, Goatdog :)

I'm midway through a VW BOV restoration/upgrade.  I really like the false floor idea.  How is the board held in place or does it stay in place under its own weight?

edit - forgot to add a +1 :)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 03:24:18 PM
what about extra/auxiliary fuel?  say you get to go the long long long way home.  what's the range on your vehicle?  does it have the biggest gas tank  they make for that model?   a bigger gas tank is a easy swap and no one will know.

Fair question. I have six 5 gallon GI cans for fuel. They'll mount on the receiver hitch rack (holds 500 lbs). It has a 23 gallon tank (only choice, no upgrades). I can normally get home on about 24-25 gallons. The 30 extra in the cans gives me a cushion that makes me feel better. In my epic quest to get home post=SHTF, a 5 gallon can of fuel will have some value. I wouldn't wait until I needed to fill up to use the cans. I'd add 5 gallons everytime the tank would take it to minimize the risk of losing my extra for some reason. There really isn't room for more gas tank anywhere in or under that truck.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 03:28:30 PM
Really enjoyed reading this.  Thanks, Goatdog :)

I'm midway through a VW BOV restoration/upgrade.  I really like the false floor idea.  How is the board held in place or does it stay in place under its own weight?

edit - forgot to add a +1 :)

It holds its own but I added four small metal brackets, one at each support leg and two across the rear. Currently needs a Phillips screwdriver to take em off but looking for some type of quick release buckle setup. I do not need to take out or lift the floor to access any of my stuff under there. There is access from both sides.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on July 29, 2009, 03:57:27 PM
You need to know how jealous I am of your camping trip.  You can DRIVE on the BEACH out there?  What is this world coming to, when a Californian is shocked that you're allowed to drive on the beach.  *sigh*

And the storm?  On the sea?  While you're in your tent?  Good Lord man, that's almost indecent, it sounds so wonderful.

I'd dig plenty of graves to experience that.  There is nothing (NOTHING) like lightning on the Ocean.  Used to live right on the water in Long Beach (our condo had 2 boat slips, and our view was literally the ocean on all three sides that had windows). Ocean storms are bar none my favorite thing on earth to watch.  Specially when it's from my living room, with a nice fire going in the fireplace, and all the lights out.  We'd all sit there in the living room, staring out the bay windows crying "OOOOOH! Didju see THAT one?!" every time another lightning flash happened.  *sigh*  That's the only thing I'm gonna miss about California.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on July 29, 2009, 03:59:49 PM
Dude, you never stop causing my jaw to drop open and the word, "wow" falling out.

All this and you're a poet too.
Quote
I awoke to the sound of the surf. It was cloudy out but I made some coffee and debated ending my trip right then and there. As if to answer, God sent a shaft of light right onto my tent. I decided to stay. I packed me a little ditty bag for the beach and hiked down the boardwalk. The gnarly growth stunted trees, ravaged by the salt air, created a covered path along the weathered wooden planks that led to the dunes. The post-storm surf was loud and angry looking. Few people were visible as far as my old eyes could see. There were no visible structures save the famous Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, at 208 feet it was hard to miss, even though it was almost ten miles distant. I set up the chair and immediately jumped into the maelstrom, even at low tide it was powerful. The surf was strong but invigorating. The sky was in turmoil all day. The sun remained over the sea and the dark boiling clouds stayed just off the beach. Each feinting towards the other like a supernatural battle between ancient Greek gods.

GoatDog
Teacher
Warrior
Scholar
Mentor
Poet
Father
Husband
Handyman
A true Renaissance Man

Just one question. Do you sometimes wear a mask and a cape?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on July 29, 2009, 04:04:48 PM
Great project, still downloading the pictures even though I have fast DSL.  >:(

Brilliant idea on the front tow hitch. You would be surprised at the number of people even in farm and ranch country who don't even think about doing something like that. It will be handy. Just make sure the hitches are capable of supporting the capacity of the winch. No sense getting a 2000 pound hitch setup for a winch that can handle 5000 pounds.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
You need to know how jealous I am of your camping trip.  You can DRIVE on the BEACH out there?  What is this world coming to, when a Californian is shocked that you're allowed to drive on the beach.  *sigh*

And the storm?  On the sea?  While you're in your tent?  Good Lord man, that's almost indecent, it sounds so wonderful.

I'd dig plenty of graves to experience that.  There is nothing (NOTHING) like lightning on the Ocean.  Used to live right on the water in Long Beach (our condo had 2 boat slips, and our view was literally the ocean on all three sides that had windows). Ocean storms are bar none my favorite thing on earth to watch.  Specially when it's from my living room, with a nice fire going in the fireplace, and all the lights out.  We'd all sit there in the living room, staring out the bay windows crying "OOOOOH! Didju see THAT one?!" every time another lightning flash happened.  *sigh*  That's the only thing I'm gonna miss about California.

I thought I was the only one. I love watching the weather when it gets angry. I think California beaches are really nice and different than the East Coast beaches.

The beaches in northern Panama and Costa Rica are my favorites though.

They tried to outlaw beach driving here, but it was met with a very loud roar. They do it around sea turtle egg laying season and all is well. You could drive down to the Baja Peninsula and get some beach driving in.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 04:08:54 PM
Just one question. Do you sometimes wear a mask and a cape?

Was that you peeping in my bedroom window?

Perv... ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on July 29, 2009, 04:36:17 PM
I thought I was the only one. I love watching the weather when it gets angry.

My papa used to take us storm chasing when my brothers and I were very wee.  My mother would have an absolute cow, but papa never listened.  Storm chasing was the only thing he ever really put his foot down about.  I never grew out of it.  It's in my blood, I think.  I love the smell of the desert right after a thunderstorm, and the way your heart races when you know it's gonna be a hell of a show (even before it happens.  Maybe especially right before it happens, when you get storm goosebumps all over), and I love weather sirens, when everybody else is scared out of their pants because the sky is emitting moisture and electricity (buncha wimps).  But when you can feel the thunder in your bones, and you can see the lightning playing on the water, where there aren't any buildings to interfere, and the sea is reaching up for the shock, and the clouds are reaching down for a drink...  Crispies.  Love it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 04:56:15 PM
Great project, still downloading the pictures even though I have fast DSL.  >:(

Brilliant idea on the front tow hitch. You would be surprised at the number of people even in farm and ranch country who don't even think about doing something like that. It will be handy. Just make sure the hitches are capable of supporting the capacity of the winch. No sense getting a 2000 pound hitch setup for a winch that can handle 5000 pounds.

The best I found for the front was a 3500 lb. I don't anticipate needing more than that but will keep looking until I actually purchase one.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 05:03:36 PM
My papa used to take us storm chasing when my brothers and I were very wee.  My mother would have an absolute cow, but papa never listened.  Storm chasing was the only thing he ever really put his foot down about.  I never grew out of it.  It's in my blood, I think.  I love the smell of the desert right after a thunderstorm, and the way your heart races when you know it's gonna be a hell of a show (even before it happens.  Maybe especially right before it happens, when you get storm goosebumps all over), and I love weather sirens, when everybody else is scared out of their pants because the sky is emitting moisture and electricity (buncha wimps).  But when you can feel the thunder in your bones, and you can see the lightning playing on the water, where there aren't any buildings to interfere, and the sea is reaching up for the shock, and the clouds are reaching down for a drink...  Crispies.  Love it.

Very eloquent SW. Glad your Dad didn't let the TV suck the life out of you. Kids these days don't get outside enough.

I was pointing out to some folks the other night how to navigate with the moon and stars and they were astounded. They had never heard about doing it that way. My father pointed out a lot of that stuff to me. I just ran with it because of my obsessiveness with subjects that currently interest me. I have a tendency to grasp a subject and chew it up like a pit bull until I know all I care to know. With my kids, I have occasional"Training Days" and frequent "Training Minutes" that used to make them groan, but now they ask when the next one is coming up.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: chris on July 29, 2009, 05:14:10 PM
Biggest improvment I can see would be a lift kit. You already mentioned doing it. My stock Jeep was pretty good off-road, but the lift kit made a jy-normous improvement. It climbs small buildings now. I'd skip the snorkel. They're good but only if the water level stays below the electronics. Older vehicles can run through water fine and the snorkel keeps the air flowing. If you're electronics get wet, getting air won't make a hill of beans. Unless you rewire and move everything "up", I don't see how the snorkel will help at all.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 29, 2009, 05:22:18 PM
Biggest improvment I can see would be a lift kit. You already mentioned doing it. My stock Jeep was pretty good off-road, but the lift kit made a jy-normous improvement. It climbs small buildings now. I'd skip the snorkel. They're good but only if the water level stays below the electronics. Older vehicles can run through water fine and the snorkel keeps the air flowing. If you're electronics get wet, getting air won't make a hill of beans. Unless you rewire and move everything "up", I don't see how the snorkel will help at all.

I'm thinking 2" is what I'll do for a lift, anymore than that will affect daily enjoyment. I've lifted others before. Probably go with an Old Man Emu kit (OME).

The Expedition Portal guys use the snorkels on their 4Runners. I haven't read much about raising the electronics, but I will now. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: archer on July 29, 2009, 05:34:47 PM
My papa used to take us storm chasing when my brothers and I were very wee.  My mother would have an absolute cow, but papa never listened.  Storm chasing was the only thing he ever really put his foot down about.  I never grew out of it.  It's in my blood, I think.  I love the smell of the desert right after a thunderstorm, and the way your heart races when you know it's gonna be a hell of a show (even before it happens.  Maybe especially right before it happens, when you get storm goosebumps all over), and I love weather sirens, when everybody else is scared out of their pants because the sky is emitting moisture and electricity (buncha wimps).  But when you can feel the thunder in your bones, and you can see the lightning playing on the water, where there aren't any buildings to interfere, and the sea is reaching up for the shock, and the clouds are reaching down for a drink...  Crispies.  Love it.
Damn, I love to watch and feel the energy of storms.. Maybe wit the coming El Nino I'll go to the coast and watch/experience a few properly.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: chris on July 29, 2009, 06:13:11 PM
The Expedition Portal guys use the snorkels on their 4Runners. I haven't read much about raising the electronics, but I will now. Thanks for the heads up.

I've seen lots of guys with snorkels, who only get their 4x4's wet when it rains. I've seen people say it gets better gas mileage because your're pulling air from outside instead of the engine compartment, so maybe it's good for morethan preventing hydrolock. I did a trip with a guy in his Ford with a snorkel, and about the time the water hit the dash, the whole vehicle shut down. YMMV. I had water up to the bottom of the seats in my Cherokee without a hitch (with a 6 inch lift kit). I don't have a snorkel, so I'm a bit leery of pushing it. I spent half a day pulling a Laredo out of the same creek (2 inch lift kit). I'm not a 4runner fan, so I have no idea how vulnerable it is to water. Although if someone gave me an FJ, I'd become a fan in a hurry.

I have a buddy who's a serious 4runner offroader, and I'll ask him.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on July 29, 2009, 06:24:33 PM
Damn, I love to watch and feel the energy of storms.. Maybe wit the coming El Nino I'll go to the coast and watch/experience a few properly.

You've got a hell of a coastline to watch up there too.  I think it gets more violent up by you than it does down by me.  Lucky ducky.  ;)

Alright, threadjack over.  Back to your regularly scheduled BOV.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Copyright 1972 on July 29, 2009, 07:59:45 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on July 30, 2009, 12:18:20 PM
Again GD, SUPERNICE project!  Try this link and see if it makes ya smile...  http://4x4wire.com/index.php/toyota-section (http://4x4wire.com/index.php/toyota-section)

And the ARB Airlockers get a thumbs up from me.  You said you didn't want to go whole hog rock climber, and that's exactly what the ARB air actuated locking differential setup gives you the ability to do, with the flip of a switch, you can go from a road roller to a fully locked hill climber in less than a second.  Just don't try to drive on the dry pavement with it locked or you'll be chirping the tires at every turn of the wheel since they are truly 100% locked together.  Even a 2WD with the ability to lock the rear diff is pretty darn amazing for the terrain it can cope with, and when you are able to put 100% power to all 4 wheels, well...  you only need one tire on the ground to keep moving.

Keep posting the good stuff GD!

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 04, 2009, 08:52:19 AM
I do like the air lockers. I will do this in phases, ranging from probabilities I might encounter in a long-distance bugout (early mods) to possibilities (later mods).

Even though this 4Runner is a few months shy of five years old, it is still under warranty for seven. I'm not saying I won't do the air lockers sooner, but I want to focus on setting it up within warranty guidelines for now.

I will need some info from you Tim on who to get them from and about getting them installed. In the meantime, do you have info on a 2/1" or a 3/2" lift? Something I can do myself? I'm not bad with a wrench.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Copyright 1972 on August 04, 2009, 08:57:30 AM
Look into Old man Emu.  They make great stuff for the newer 4-runners.  Fab-Tec is also a great source for suspention related stuff. 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 04, 2009, 09:05:27 AM
OME is my first choice, just didn't know what negatives about them wrere out there.

I'll look into the Fab Tec too.

thanks!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: donaldj on August 04, 2009, 09:35:47 AM
I know I'm a site noob, but your intent with this vehicle is to get you the 505 miles home, right?

I think if I was that far from my home and family on such a regular basis, I would also look into pilot training and the accessibility of airplanes in your area. If an "event" occurs, it might be the most practical bugout for that distance.  You seem to have the determination and the resources to make stuff happen, so I think I'd look into this.

Also, have you considered having a spare engine control module in a shielded container in case of EMP?  What else might fail to make the truck go in an EMP event?

Lastly, you probably do, but I'd want Delorme Atlas's for each state between me and Home, in case that snazzy GPS is wiped in an EMP.

Hope this helps,
D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Copyright 1972 on August 04, 2009, 10:35:48 AM
Goatdog can do anything!!!!  He's just building this truck so he can do anything and be comfy whilst' he does it!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Here's some links fer' ya' Goatdog, they may be of some help, in a research kind of way

All-pro offroad http://www.allprooffroad.com (http://www.allprooffroad.com)

Northwest offroad http://www.northwestoffroad.com/ (http://www.northwestoffroad.com/)

4-wheel off road Magizinehttp://www.4wheeloffroad.com/index.html] [url]http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/index.html (http://[url)[/url]



Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 04, 2009, 10:48:23 AM
I have considered the flight option. Don't feel it is practical. At all. Have many pilot friends (160th SOAR, etc). They don't include flight in their bugout plans. Multiple reasons. And there is a restricted airfield a few hundred yards from me most of the time. I've given some consideration to ultralight technology, but the low (5 gallon) fuel capacity is pretty restrictive.

I don't worry about EMP like some folks. It is a currently only a slight possibility, though as more countries/factions become more capable it will get more realistic. "One Second After" is a great book and makes you think, but it isn't quite that easy to have an event on that scale. There is even argument that it wouldn't catastrophically affect most vehicles. If it did, I have a lot of vehicle commandeering training. I can pretty much take just about any vehicle using the tools/devices I have. Modern or older. There are a lot of misconceptions about gaining entry and starting a vehicle without a key. It turns out to be fairly easy when you learn a particular brand (GM, Toyota, Ford, etc). That is why most car theft rings steal just one make of car, because they only know how to do it with that one car. I DO NOT break the law with this knowledge. I was trained for official purposes.

The GPS situation, however, is very real. The .gov can shut it down very quickly, encode it so only military equipment can use it, or degrade the accuracy somewhat. They already turned it off once for a short duration. depending on what type of SHTF we are facing, they can, and should, turn it off again. I have topo maps of the three states that I could run into (NC, TN, VA) in a bugout. Routes are marked and, except for a couple new ones, pre-driven. I have some military 1:50,000 of the area and have some more coming. Fortunately, I'm old enough to remember life before sluggers, pluggers, gps, etc.

I plan to post some map stuff showing my criteria for my various routes. My biggest concern is getting off this damn peninsula. We have two tunnels, a few bridges, and a ferry. That, or try to drive out through Richmond, in exactly the direction I just shouldn't be going. Anyone know how to turn a 4Runner into an amphib with the flip of a switch? ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 04, 2009, 10:58:14 AM
Goatdog can do anything!!!!  He's just building this truck so he can do anything and be comfy whilst' he does it!!!   ;D ;D ;D

Here's some links fer' ya' Goatdog, they may be of some help, in a research kind of way

All-pro offroad http://www.allprooffroad.com (http://www.allprooffroad.com)

Northwest offroad http://www.northwestoffroad.com/ (http://www.northwestoffroad.com/)

4-wheel off road Magizine [url]http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/index.html]http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/index.html] [url]http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/index.html (http://[url=http://www.4wheeloffroad.com/index.html)[/url]


Thanks for those links Copyright72! I devour info on this subject. I've been heavy reading the Expedition Portal and all the Toyota forums. Any help is appreciated. I've already decided that airlockers will eventually go on 505, thanks to people here telling me it was nonintrusive.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Klapton on August 04, 2009, 11:03:38 AM
I have considered the flight option. Don't feel it is practical. At all. Have many pilot friends (160th SOAR, etc). They don't include flight in their bugout plans. Multiple reasons. And there is a restricted airfield a few hundred yards from me most of the time. I've given some consideration to ultralight technology, but the low (5 gallon) fuel capacity is pretty restrictive.

I've given some thought to an Ultralight setup.  The five gallon limit is, of course, a government regulation.  When TSHTF their stupid "regulations" won't apply.  Of course, you wouldn't want to mount a larger tank on it until TSHTF.  But if you could figure out how big you could go without adding too much weight to fly, and have a larger tank ready to swap out when TSHTF.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 04, 2009, 11:10:45 AM
I've given some thought to an Ultralight setup.  The five gallon limit is, of course, a government regulation.  When TSHTF their stupid "regulations" won't apply.  Of course, you wouldn't want to mount a larger tank on it until TSHTF.  But if you could figure out how big you could go without adding too much weight to fly, and have a larger tank ready to swap out when TSHTF.

That's really what I meant Klapton. I know fuel weighs a little over 7 lbs a gallon and wonder at what point it becomes counterproductive to add fuel capacity. I'll ask a couple people.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on August 04, 2009, 11:17:05 AM
I have considered the flight option. Don't feel it is practical. At all. Have many pilot friends (160th SOAR, etc). They don't include flight in their bugout plans. Multiple reasons. And there is a restricted airfield a few hundred yards from me most of the time. I've given some consideration to ultralight technology, but the low (5 gallon) fuel capacity is pretty restrictive.

I don't worry about EMP like some folks. It is a currently only a slight possibility, though as more countries/factions become more capable it will get more realistic. "One Second After" is a great book and makes you think, but it isn't quite that easy to have an event on that scale. There is even argument that it wouldn't catastrophically affect most vehicles. If it did, I have a lot of vehicle commandeering training. I can pretty much take just about any vehicle using the tools/devices I have. Modern or older. There are a lot of misconceptions about gaining entry and starting a vehicle without a key. It turns out to be fairly easy when you learn a particular brand (GM, Toyota, Ford, etc). That is why most car theft rings steal just one make of car, because they only know how to do it with that one car. I DO NOT break the law with this knowledge. I was trained for official purposes.

The GPS situation, however, is very real. The .gov can shut it down very quickly, encode it so only military equipment can use it, or degrade the accuracy somewhat. They already turned it off once for a short duration. depending on what type of SHTF we are facing, they can, and should, turn it off again. I have topo maps of the three states that I could run into (NC, TN, VA) in a bugout. Routes are marked and, except for a couple new ones, pre-driven. I have some military 1:50,000 of the area and have some more coming. Fortunately, I'm old enough to remember life before sluggers, pluggers, gps, etc.

I plan to post some map stuff showing my criteria for my various routes. My biggest concern is getting off this damn peninsula. We have two tunnels, a few bridges, and a ferry. That, or try to drive out through Richmond, in exactly the direction I just shouldn't be going. Anyone know how to turn a 4Runner into an amphib with the flip of a switch? ;D

IIRC GPS was originally degraded for civilian use at the beginning, off by 100 meters or something like that?

Also, as discussed elsewhere on TSP, if TSHTF, especially if there is some form of attack, the Feds may also terminate all air traffic immediately as with 9/11. Ultralights may be harder to catch, but they will be included in the no-fly order.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: donaldj on August 04, 2009, 11:23:11 AM
IIRC GPS was originally degraded for civilian use at the beginning, off by 100 meters or something like that?

My understanding was that consumer devices had that inaccuracy programmed in. It was a fiasco. If I understood it right, the receiver had to have the inaccuracy programmed in, which some companies "over-rided" by taking multiple samples and averaging the position.

They've since rescinded that, but as mentioned, the gub'ment can turn it on/off at any time.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 05, 2009, 12:13:05 AM

Also, as discussed elsewhere on TSP, if TSHTF, especially if there is some form of attack, the Feds may also terminate all air traffic immediately as with 9/11. Ultralights may be harder to catch, but they will be included in the no-fly order.

That's a big reason. I just can't see our skies being as free as they are now if SHTF. I would be pretty easy to shoot down.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 05, 2009, 10:59:58 AM
That's a big reason. I just can't see our skies being as free as they are now if SHTF. I would be pretty easy to shoot down.

An Ultralite would be the preferred choice for "low and slow", but everybody with a gun would be slinging led at ya post SHTF.  I mean what'd they have to loose, you'd probably be hurt/killed in the crash and then whatever you had on board would be theirs.  It's not all that uncommon for civilian aircraft that fly low (photography, forestry management, herd count, etc.) to encounter a random pot shot up their tail feathers in today's "climate".

And as far as TLC links, I'll see what I can dig up for ya.  Copyright did a jam up job providing you with good links.  There used to be a company that if you were a TLC guy, you HAD to have their catalog, it was at the times cutting edge for anything TLC.  Probably still is too, I'll remember it if I think about it long enough and pass it your way sir.

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 05, 2009, 11:02:09 AM
Get the drooling towel out GD...

http://www.downeyoff-road.com/ (http://www.downeyoff-road.com/)


Tim.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 05, 2009, 11:04:55 AM
Get the drooling towel out GD...

http://www.downeyoff-road.com/ (http://www.downeyoff-road.com/)

Tim.

You just cost me a lot of money Tim.

I'll pick one of my children to skip college and I'll make do. ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 05, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
You just cost me a lot of money Tim.

I'll pick one of my children to skip college and I'll make do. ;D

I did warn ya bud!  Wanna go for two kids out of college?

http://www.quadratec.com/ (http://www.quadratec.com/)  A Jeep only place but they carry a LOT of universally adaptable gear.

http://www.garvin-industries.com/index.html (http://www.garvin-industries.com/index.html)  BEST roof racks MADE!  Great idea generator too.

http://www.rustysoffroad.com/ (http://www.rustysoffroad.com/)  Jeep only too, but MAN!  They specialize in the Cherokee stuff.  I know Rusty personally and he is salt of the earth.

http://www.quadratec.com/help/shop_by_brand.php (http://www.quadratec.com/help/shop_by_brand.php)  Qudratec's manufacturers link page if you want to forget about college all together.

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Copyright 1972 on August 05, 2009, 02:24:05 PM
Damnit!  How did I forget Downey?????   ???

I...HAVE....FAILED...YOU!!!!!!

 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 05, 2009, 03:35:03 PM
I spent the last couple hours drooling. I guess I need to make a plan and stick to it or I'll just start ordering stuff haphazardly. Copyrright72 and TimSuggs are banned from this thread. They already cost me my retirement! ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: the_dude306 on August 05, 2009, 03:46:15 PM
Very nice!  Keep us posted!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 05, 2009, 04:08:41 PM
Very nice!  Keep us posted!

It'll never be an offroad match for your beast of a Land Cruiser Dude306! Best BOV I've ever seen. Mine just has a somewhat different mission.

But I will be stealing some of your ideas and since you know Toyotas I might need some info too. Like the best place to get that fridge for instance.

BTW Tim Suggs, I saw earlier that the Yakima Load Warrior had been rreduced to $199 with free shipping at bikeguys.com and I jumped on it. Then you told me about the Garvin. I didn't look up their prices, but $199 is hard to beat for a good one like the Yakima. I can later add the 20" extension if I need it, but I'm thinking I might need to save some roof space for radio antennas, unless someone knows a better place to get reception.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 05, 2009, 06:30:01 PM
No sympathy GD, you asked. 

Copyright broke me up with his "I Failed You" comment, I have Downey's logo emblazoned in my mind CR, so don't sweat that one, you did good.

Dude306 is totally rocking with his rig.  A professional piece it is.

I like nothing more than looking through "wheel" websites and catalogs.  Anything with wheels is game for me.  I very often "think" myself to sleep at night building rigs and such in my mind.  GD when it comes to roof racks, there are so many of them out there.  If you got a good deal on a rack that serves your needs, well...  You can't ask for more.  The coolest roof rack I have seen for Jeeps is the Olympic "Dave Rack" (pictured below)

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/115976-add1-lg.jpg)
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/115976-add2-lg.jpg)
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/115976-add3-lg.jpg)
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/115976-add4-lg.jpg)

Just think of possibilities! 

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Louisiana Suvivor on August 05, 2009, 06:33:19 PM
awesome pic!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on August 05, 2009, 07:30:46 PM
Ohhhhh, look at that RACK.  :D

I wonder if they make something like that for an FJ cruiser.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 05, 2009, 09:05:10 PM
I can later add the 20" extension if I need it, but I'm thinking I might need to save some roof space for radio antennas, unless someone knows a better place to get reception.
Look into rack mounts for antennas.  There are quite a few variations out there already, & it's fairly easy to mod something up to attach to your roof racks.

I like some of the folding models that are available.  If you have to back country it, it's nice to be able to fold the antenna down to parallel with the roof, no tree branches to worry about that way.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 05, 2009, 09:07:10 PM
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/ (http://www.rustysoffroad.com/)  Jeep only too, but MAN!  They specialize in the Cherokee stuff.  I know Rusty personally and he is salt of the earth.
Dang it Tim!  You've gotta quit helping me spend money I don't have. :(
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 05, 2009, 10:09:10 PM
Ohhhhh, look at that RACK.  :D
I wonder if they make something like that for an FJ cruiser.

If they don't, find a fab shop and "git er done"!  I made an aluminum full length overhead rack for my 4 dr 1994 Montero that was from bumper to bumper.  It incorporated pull out side frames for tarping and was plenty roomy on top for a full sized 8x10 cabin style tent that could sleep 5.  I had mounts for lights on all four sides, antenna, gas cans, Hi-Lift shovel and axe.  Unfortunately it was stolen before I had used it twice, recovered at the bottom of a ravine, burnt to a crisp and all that was left of the aluminum rack was the mounts.

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 05, 2009, 10:11:41 PM
Dang it Tim!  You've gotta quit helping me spend money I don't have. :(

Think of me as a one man stimulus incentive package!   8)

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 05, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Look into rack mounts for antennas.  There are quite a few variations out there already, & it's fairly easy to mod something up to attach to your roof racks.

I like some of the folding models that are available.  If you have to back country it, it's nice to be able to fold the antenna down to parallel with the roof, no tree branches to worry about that way.

Never crossed my mind to use folding antennas. Should have, I broke more than one when I was a soldier by running into overhead crap.

DEV, what would a ham setup run me? Something capable, but not top of the line.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 05, 2009, 11:03:32 PM
I am hoping the Yakima's fairing will keep wind noise to a minimum during my highway usage. I do a lot of driving.

http://www.yakima.com/racks/cargo/product/8007070/loadwarrior.aspx (http://www.yakima.com/racks/cargo/product/8007070/loadwarrior.aspx)

I am intrigued by the RTT (Roof Top Tent) models.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 06, 2009, 02:46:14 AM
DEV, what would a ham setup run me? Something capable, but not top of the line.
That's a loaded question brother. ;)

Depends on how many resources (frequencies) you'd like to have at your disposal, & how simple you'd like the operation to be.

PM me your specific requirements & I'll take a look.  Generally speaking we could probably get you in a decent set up for anywhere from $200 to $500, it's largely going to depend on how versatile you want the comms to be.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 06, 2009, 09:04:44 AM
Will PM you soon DEV. Do you have a link that is designed for a simpleton like me to understand basic Ham stuff? I can setup a sat system and talk around the world, but commercial stuff is voodoo to me.

Is it feasible to setup a ham at my TN residence (with my wife/family) and a mobile setup in my BOV that can talk to her? Am I just dreaming?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 06, 2009, 02:08:57 PM
Will PM you soon DEV. Do you have a link that is designed for a simpleton like me to undersatnd basic Ham stuff? I can setup a sat system and talk around the world, but commercial stuff is voodoo to me.
Getting Started in HAM Radio (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2075.0)

Quote
Is it feasible to setup a ham at my TN residence (with my wife/family) and a mobile setup in my BOV that can talk to her? Am I just dreaming?
Yes, it's possible.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: the_dude306 on August 06, 2009, 02:10:48 PM
I am hoping the Yakima's fairing will keep wind noise to a minimum during my highway usage. I do a lot of driving.

http://www.yakima.com/racks/cargo/product/8007070/loadwarrior.aspx (http://www.yakima.com/racks/cargo/product/8007070/loadwarrior.aspx)

I am intrigued by the RTT (Roof Top Tent) models.

The fairing is a godsend for those Yakima racks.  It was unbearable without it on our hightower rain gutters!

The RTT is the next big purchase for us.  We are heading into the North West Territories for a couple weeks and everyone in our group has a RTT.  We are going to go over them closely and see what model/brand to go after.  There not cheap, but look well worth it.  We are struggling for room on this trip with still trying to sleep in the rig.

That rack that timsuggs posted is very intriguing.  I really like it.  Weight might be an issue as it gets pounded out going down the road??

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 06, 2009, 06:19:13 PM
Getting Started in HAM Radio (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2075.0)
Yes, it's possible.

Is it possible in the $500 - $1000 range, or possible in the Donald Trump realm?

Thanks for the link too DEV!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 06, 2009, 06:25:38 PM
The fairing is a godsend for those Yakima racks.  It was unbearable without it on our hightower rain gutters!

The RTT is the next big purchase for us.  We are heading into the North West Territories for a couple weeks and everyone in our group has a RTT.  We are going to go over them closely and see what model/brand to go after.  There not cheap, but look well worth it.  We are struggling for room on this trip with still trying to sleep in the rig.

That rack that timsuggs posted is very intriguing.  I really like it.  Weight might be an issue as it gets pounded out going down the road??

Thanks for the fairing info. I was concerned.

The RTT's I have looked at fall between $750 and $1900 or so. I really like them. They look like they pretty much take up all the room up there, but I guess that is balanced by not needing to leave room inside for napping.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 06, 2009, 07:11:40 PM
Is it possible in the $500 - $1000 range, or possible in the Donald Trump realm?

Thanks for the link too DEV!
For $1000 you can get a pretty damn nice "do almost everything" set up.

If that's the price range, I already have some gear picked out.  I can send you model #'s & specs.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: the_dude306 on August 06, 2009, 07:32:47 PM
The RTT's I have looked at fall between $750 and $1900 or so. I really like them. They look like they pretty much take up all the room up there, but I guess that is balanced by not needing to leave room inside for napping.

That would be OK if you have the room inside for other gear.  Personally I don't like hauling fuel or anything heavy on a rack so the RTT is a perfect option.  The idea of having your bedding ready as soon as your tent is deployed is very appealing.  And I think the bigger RTT are under 150lbs??

My problem is deciding on a brand like the Eezi-awns that are tried and true but $$ or looking at the ARB and Camping labs that are Chinese knock offs (in a sense)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on August 06, 2009, 08:23:52 PM
For $1000 you can get a pretty damn nice "do almost everything" set up.

If that's the price range, I already have some gear picked out.  I can send you model #'s & specs.

I can't do much comm-wise at the moment, what with being unemployed and all, but could you break it down by price level for the rest of us? Maybe a starter set for $x, then a mid-range set for $Y, and a high-end set for $z? I'm guessing radio set, antenna(s), amp(?) and ? ? ?

I'm going to check out the Getting Started link . . . .
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 06, 2009, 09:53:42 PM
I can't do much comm-wise at the moment, what with being unemployed and all, but could you break it down by price level for the rest of us? Maybe a starter set for $x, then a mid-range set for $Y, and a high-end set for $z? I'm guessing radio set, antenna(s), amp(?) and ? ? ?

I'm going to check out the Getting Started link . . . .
I can as long as you realize my needs won't necessarily meet your needs.  That's why I asked GD what specific requirements he was looking for in comm gear.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 06, 2009, 09:58:14 PM
If you're telling me that, during my epic 505 mile journey post-SHTF, I'll be able to grab a microphone on a mobile ham setup in the BOV and talk to my family at our TN home on a base station ham...I'm all over that idea.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 06, 2009, 10:33:09 PM
If you're telling me that, during my epic 505 mile journey post-SHTF, I'll be able to grab a microphone on a mobile ham setup in the BOV and talk to my family at our TN home on a base station ham...I'm all over that idea.
I wish it was that simple....

Unfortunately there are, or can be, a lot of factors that determine whether or not you actually get thru to the home base.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 06, 2009, 10:37:41 PM
Other than atmospheric conditions and the right equipment, what would be the next hurdle?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 06, 2009, 10:39:53 PM
Other than atmospheric conditions and the right equipment, what would be the next hurdle?
Atmospheric conditions will be the biggest factor IMO.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on August 06, 2009, 11:16:37 PM
Other than atmospheric conditions and the right equipment, what would be the next hurdle?

Well repeaters too, right?  If you have a physical disaster (say, another country bombing us, or mass earthquakes across the US or something drastic and dramatic like that), you may lose repeaters necessary to make the call.  I think.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on August 07, 2009, 03:14:11 AM
   500 miles is really stretching it even with repeaters. GD ham is your best option for comms hands down though. You would probably get a hundred miles with a repeater unless you hit a linked system and maybe 50 miles line of sight if your lucky. On HF at night though you might hit 500 miles but it would go back to atmospheric conditions and getting the right bounce.
   How tall are your mountains in your area?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on August 07, 2009, 03:19:31 AM
   Check out Brians toyota he has an awesome site.
http://www.brian894x4.com/ (http://www.brian894x4.com/)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on August 07, 2009, 04:13:11 AM
Well repeaters too, right?  If you have a physical disaster (say, another country bombing us, or mass earthquakes across the US or something drastic and dramatic like that), you may lose repeaters necessary to make the call.  I think.
Practically speaking all a repeater does is extend your line of sight, they can extend it for quite a distance, but not enough to talk across a couple of states.  Unless, like Bail...er...Beetle pointed out, it's a linked system.

I wouldn't depend on the repeaters when the SHTF.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 07, 2009, 08:56:14 AM
Practically speaking all a repeater does is extend your line of sight, they can extend it for quite a distance, but not enough to talk across a couple of states.  Unless, like Bail...er...Beetle pointed out, it's a linked system.
I wouldn't depend on the repeaters when the SHTF.

Ahhh...  <insert Mad Scientist cackle here>  I see another application for my "balloon hoisted antenna" idea here.  "IF" you could ground tether a winchable balloon system capable of hoisting an antenna 1500', 2500', 5000' feet above your horizon in the black of night, post SHTF at your BOL...

Yeah, I know, it's pretty far fetched logistically, but just think about for a minute...  Coast to Coast!

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 07, 2009, 09:02:37 AM
   500 miles is really stretching it even with repeaters. GD ham is your best option for comms hands down though. You would probably get a hundred miles with a repeater unless you hit a linked system and maybe 50 miles line of sight if your lucky. On HF at night though you might hit 500 miles but it would go back to atmospheric conditions and getting the right bounce.
   How tall are your mountains in your area?

The mountains are the tallest east of the Mississippi. Mount Mitchell at 6684' (tallest), Mount Leconte 6593', Clingmans Dome 6643, and Mount Guyot 6621' are in the way. As would be many smaller 5000+' peaks. Even from a different angle the Shenandoah Valley (and hence the Appalachian trail and all of Virginia's tallest peaks) would be in the way.

Cool link Beetle.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 07, 2009, 09:06:31 AM
Ahhh...  <insert Mad Scientist cackle here>  I see another application for my "balloon hoisted antenna" idea here.  "IF" you could ground tether a winchable balloon system capable of hoisting an antenna 1500', 2500', 5000' feet above your horizon in the black of night, post SHTF at your BOL...

Yeah, I know, it's pretty far fetched logistically, but just think about for a minute...  Coast to Coast!

Tim.


No problem Tim. I can see me now:

 "Scotty...put down those blasted dilithium crystals and hoist the winchable balloon to 5000'. Spock...find me a green tinted alien woman to have sex with."
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 07, 2009, 09:38:43 AM
No problem Tim. I can see me now:
 "Scotty...put down those blasted dilithium crystals and hoist the winchable balloon to 5000'. Spock...find me a green tinted alien woman to have sex with."

I thought it was Uhura that booked the "green tinted" entertainment, since she was the comm officer and had all those kinky long distance conversations going on all the time.  But that's another thread entirely!

Post SHTF will definitely be "out of the box" and will require some out of the box thinking AND solutions for the modern survivalist.  My "air antenna" was originall conceived by me for SAR Command Post comm for remote mountainous terrain to enable a better signal coverage down in the valleys where we typically found ourselves without comm.  I tinkered with several different designs including a balloon hoisted reflector antenna that basically was "visible" to all from anywhere in the search area and would "reflect" a signal so that others could receive it.  It was marginally effective.

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on August 07, 2009, 11:10:41 AM
The mountains are the tallest east of the Mississippi. Mount Mitchell at 6684' (tallest), Mount Leconte 6593', Clingmans Dome 6643, and Mount Guyot 6621' are in the way. As would be many smaller 5000+' peaks. Even from a different angle the Shenandoah Valley (and hence the Appalachian trail and all of Virginia's tallest peaks) would be in the way.

Cool link Beetle.

   You might go on line and see if the ham radio clubs in your area can tell you the "footprint" of the repeaters. With those heights you might get some good distance out of them.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 07, 2009, 05:16:44 PM
   Check out Brians toyota he has an awesome site.
http://www.brian894x4.com/ (http://www.brian894x4.com/)

THANKS for that link Beetle!  Another +1 fer ya my friend. 

This guy's site is FABULOUS!  I LOVE this kind of stuff!  Got anymore links along this line?

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 16, 2009, 05:29:58 PM
I added the Yakima Load Warrior Roof Rack, It cost me $199 shipped from BikeGuys.com. They sent it in TWO days! Originally I thought the 44" version was big enough but, after I put it together, I realized it needed the extension. I ordered it from BikeGuys.com again for $96 shipped, again the two day arrival. Real impressed by those guys.

It screwed together with some effort. Lining up the holes on each section wasn't real easy. The instructions were for multiple applications and you had to interpret which parts applied to you. I used blue Loctite on all screws. Blue is good, because it holds well but you can still unscrew it without difficulty. The fairing came with a great big YAKIMA logo across the front. I reversed it as they aren't paying me to advertise for them. The YAKIMA logo is visible from behind if you are up high and looking for it, so I might try to cover it up. I'll end up advertising the PIAA driving lights that I ordered last night, because they say PIAA on them also, but what's a man gonna do?

Attaching it to the existing Toyota roof rails was not hard at all, just time consuming. The entire rack only weighs 30 lbs and it was an easy one goat lift. I measured over and over again before I even tightened one bracket, then continued to measure throughout the process. I can say with some degree of certainty that it is centered along the 505's axis. I placed it forward enough to make sure the spoiler on the liftgate wouldn't come close to it and any loads would be distributed as evenly as I could make them. The brackets on this thing are very strong, works of art really. I'm glad I didn't go cheap and get a lesser rack, could have done so at 1/3 the cost, but it may have been too fragile.

The brackets are held on by large hand tightened plastic covered nuts. There are no instructions on torquing them down, so I just used common sense. Your hand might get sore if you tighten them as much as I did, but I am sure that they will stay put. I did some rather gorilla-like testing on them and I am happy. I will check them again soon and every so often after that.

The Yakima has a huge amount of accessories available. Things like bike racks, canoe/kayak racks, shovel and Hi-Lift jack attachments. I have a roof bag that fits in there perfectly and still leaves over 20" in front of behind it. The extension also came with a brace bar that can be placed anywhere within the rack to maintain rigidity when flexing over rocks and, more importantly to me, help keep cargo from shifting.

The Bull bar is made by Hunter. It cost me $129 shipped, it took four days staright from the manufacturer in TX. It is very nice, but only something I will use as a stopgap. As soon as the warranty runs out on 505 I will be doing a major Phase IV upgrade. This will include an Old Man Emu lift, ARB air lockers, 31" wheel/tire combo, and an ARB or Shrockworks bumper. If I'd put on the bumper now, I would have had to lift the thing now too. There are a number of things I want to do before that.

I got the bull bar for mounting lights, not for vehicle protection. It will provide minor protection but is not even close to what an ARB or Shrockworks bumper kit will do.

Mounting was very straightforward. Instructions were a one page sheet with one diagram. You don't need more than that. It came with extra washers, probably because, unlike the bull bar itself, the bolts and nut kit is applicable to many vehicles.

It took me a moment to get the nuts loose on the bumper mount underneath the 505. I am not at home with my mountain of tools. I am 505 miles away with just some basics. I fashioned a cheater pipe out of my 2" ball hitch and got the 4 nuts loosened (two per side).

After that everything went on pretty easily. Once again, I did everything loose and measured a billion times to make sure it was centered. Then I cranked it to 30 ft lbs on the bumper and 65 on the brackets, per the instruction sheet.

The bull bar already had tabs attached to it for adding fog or driving lights. I was dismayed to see they were off center by 1/8 of an inch. If, after I get the PIAA's mounted, I can see the offset I will fashion a cure for that. I have a couple options with that but will wait to see if it is an issue.

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3669/img6361k.jpg)
The Yakima Load Warrior instructions and the messy blue Loctite I use on everything.

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Yakima logo. I don't desire this to be visible.

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Fortunately, the reverse side was blank.

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This is the two ends. The extension I forgot to photograph prior to mounting it on the car. It is powdercoated.

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/6928/img6380t.jpg)
The Hunter Bull Bar is also powdercoated. It doesn't weigh much at all, in fact I held it on with my left hand while I wrenched with my right with no strain at all. It is really only a light bar. Very nice finish on it.

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/7483/img6389vea.jpg)
The brackets seem pretty sturdy and fit perfectly.

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6215/img6387s.jpg)
They are also powdercoated.

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9634/img6379c.jpg)
The rack with the reversed fairing. It is cool that the fairing folds forward out of the way should I need to carry a load longer than the rack itself.

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2483/img6373v.jpg)
The Yakima logo can be found if you look for it. I'm not sure how to cover it up. In Phase IV I will add lights to the rack and the fairing will go away, making the problem moot.

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4738/img6411a.jpg)

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(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8982/img6408m.jpg)

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(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/9301/img6406k.jpg)

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/994/img6405w.jpg)

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(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4715/img6412b.jpg)
On a whim i threw a fire extinguisher into the left rear door water bottle pocket. It fit snug, doesn't rattle, and comes out when I pull it out. Perfect actually. I'll put the other one on the passenger side and not worry about mounting them anywhere.

I drove down the Interstate at 75 mph and started to hear the wind from the rack when I listened for it, with the stereo playing softly. With the stereo muted, I could definitely tell it was there from as little as 55 mph, but it was not loud at all and I got very used to it. I am used to the dead quiet ride of a Toyota, but compromises are a way of life for all of us. It will probably affect my gas mileage slightly too. I'm pretty sure the lift, bumpers, and bigger tires will affect my mileage too when I get around to it. Oh well, I guess Al Gore will scratch me from the Christmas list now. ;D

What's next? The PIAA driving lights. I already have a great pair of OEM fog lights on there, so the driving lights will enhance my distance vision.

Maybe some Silverstar Ultras for high and low beam bulb replacement. Need to research that though. I loved them on my Silverado, but am also looking at HID conversion kits too.

The sleeper and storage in the rear of 505 will also get some attention very soon.

Yesterday, I tried to get the left and right front windows tinted to match the rest of the factory tinted windows, which are at 20%. But the shop I went to said that 50% was all Virginia allows. I see darker than that all the time. I told him I'm a Tennessean and he still wouldn't do it, though I think he hinted at doing it for more $. Screw that. I had 20% put on my Silverado in TN a couple years ago, so I'll get it done when I get home.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Copyright 1972 on August 17, 2009, 10:31:14 AM
Nice Rack Man!   ;D

Where were the pic's of yer' bull bar?  I only saw a "Calf bar" in yer pic's!  LOL!!!!!   :D
I guess that'll do till you turn the key on phase IV

Good lookin out with the fire extinguisher!  You reminded me I need to get me one for our rig.  I think that's one thing people tend to forget when building our rigs.  Not being able to put out your burrning truck, tends to be a buzz kill.....   :(

Keep the updates commin'.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 17, 2009, 11:24:12 AM
Nice Rack Man!   ;D

I bet he never expected to hear that in his lifetime CR1972 <grin>.

Tim.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on August 17, 2009, 01:46:39 PM
Nothing like a PDSWAT license plate and a skull & crossbones front plate to hide your BOV in plain sight!!!!!  Naw, that doesn't scream "I'm a badass - come get my stuff!!" - Not at all!! ;D

Nice update though  . . . . Thanks.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 17, 2009, 02:45:35 PM
Nothing like a PDSWAT license plate and a skull & crossbones front plate to hide your BOV in plain sight!!!!!  Naw, that doesn't scream "I'm a badass - come get my stuff!!" - Not at all!! ;D

Nice update though  . . . . Thanks.

LOL
The fact that it has both the Blackwater frame and the SWAT reference, I'd say you just sent 85% of potential bad guys looking for some other car to mess with.
 ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 04:57:49 PM
Yep, Copyright72, I always have a fire extinguisher. In 1982 I watched my 73 Cheyenne 10 melt while I stood by. Leakage from a fuel line onto the hot manifold while I was driving down the road. An extinguisher would have saved most of it.

That plate, obtained in 2000, has saved me approximately $2000 so far in tickets and an unknown amount in auto insurance premiums over the past 9 years. They walk up to the window, tell me to slow down, and walk away. I can't understand why... ;D

That makes it worth it.

As Hare alluded to, I've always had the mindset that a hard target will be bypassed for an easier mark. Bad guys don't want to meet the owner that just might be able to end their chosen career path very abruptly. Thinking back to my cop days I rarely did reports for sheepdogs, only sheep. I may be wrong, but so far...

It would take a tow truck to actually steal 505. I've made sure of that through some undisclosed mods, another benefit of the vehicle commandeering training. I only park it at extremely secure facilities when I'm working. I secure it inside the gate of my cottage, parked 25 feet from my bed at night, so I don't worry about break-ins. I don't troll at bars or hang out at malls, so rarely is it in peril. The stereo is useless if someone steals it, thieves know which ones are set up that way or not, and if they really want to run off with the first aid kit, come-along, tow chains, and bungee cords...well, I guess they need them more than I do.

Now, a little something I got in the mail looks like it will work for my purposes, should I have to sleep in the truck.

I ordered these a few days ago. They are mosquito net screens with magnets around the perimeter so you can leave your side windows open on your SUV and still let air in. They come in gray. A pair of them were $29. They overcharged me for shipping ($11) so they don't get a "two thumbs up" from me. The product however, appears to be well made. It has a magnet every inch or so and the seams are strong. They only come in a 34.5' x 30' size. I have a rear window on the liftgate that also rolls down and I wish they made one that would cover that size. I think I can make a crude one out of mosquito netting, magnets, and 100 mph tape. I think I will, in fact.
This gives me the option to sleep in the 505 when I'm too tired to set up the Texsport SUV tent. Anyone know where I can get magnets that are roughly the size of a quarter?

Another brand, called the "Skeeter Beeter" makes them in RealTree camo, but they cost more.

Links;

http://www.theskeeterbeater.com/index.html (http://www.theskeeterbeater.com/index.html)

and where I got mine;

http://www.tentsonsuvs.com/suv_window_screens.htm (http://www.tentsonsuvs.com/suv_window_screens.htm)

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4007/img6418d.jpg)
They are packaged individually, I bought two.

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/22/img6414p.jpg)
Outside

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7025/img6415n.jpg)
Inside



Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 17, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
I've been looking for something similar too GD, but my need is for shade w/airflow during the daytime.  If you ever try to nap at a roadside stop in the middle of the night in AR, you might need to reposition those screens a little so you can fold them over the top and sides of the door and then close the door on it cause the AR State Bird is the Mosquito!  I was stopped at a "Rest Area on I-40 late one night on my way back to base in OKC and I just couldn't drive another mile with my eyes open, so I pulled off at a Rest Area and was gong to catch a couple of hours of nappy time.  Well, I had had my eyes closed about 5 minutes when I heard something land on the hood of my truck.  I opened my eyes and there were two mosquitoes the size of crows sitting on my hood looking at me.  Then one turned to the other and said "You think we should suck him dry here or take him back to the nest?".  The other mosquito thought about the question a minute and then replied "Naw, suck him dry here, if we take him back to the nest,the BIG ones will take him away from us!".  Ohhh, that was a bad one wasn't it?  Sorry.

I have been "mentally" designing a sunshade that would cover the entire roof area and thus provide shade from the searing Dixie sunshine.  It is based on some simple machined aluminum brackets that would attach (somehow) to an existing factory roof rack,  You would insert at least four (maybe more) Fiberglas tent rods into the brackets and then pull your sunshade fabric over the flexy poles and secure the fabric to the pole tips somehow so the wind wouldn't blow it off.  And I was going to make it out of the silver reflective nylon like some of the "pop-up" windshield sun shades are made out of.  Maybe one of these days I'll get it done?  It wouldn't be that hard, nor expensive, so if someone stole the damn thing you wouldn't be out more than about $20 bucks or so, but it would  make a big difference in the heat gain while parked in the sun.

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 06:37:25 PM
Boy, that would need to be awfully big. I'd probably just spray myself down with 1,000,000% Deet first.

The skeeters in Panama were big. They talked some too.

"Hey Meester...what is your blood type? I am allergic to O positive, after a gallon I get a rash."
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 17, 2009, 06:46:53 PM
Boy, that would need to be awfully big. I'd probably just spray myself down with 1,000,000% Deet first.

The skeeters in Panama were big. They talked some too.

"Hey Meester...what is your blood type? I am allergic to O positive, after a gallon I get a rash."

Hey, I can get more local than that.
In Bowling Green a few years back a mosquito came walking up to me with a big ol hound dog on a leash and said, "You sure are purdy. I like um fat an tanned. When I finish with you they won't be nuthin but bones fer my dog ta burry."
I had to throw a bar of soap at her to get her to leave.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Hey, I can get more local than that.
In Bowling Green a few years back a mosquito came walking up to me with a big ol hound dog on a leash and said, "You sure are purdy. I like um fat an tanned. When I finish with you they won't be nuthin but bones fer my dog ta burry."
I had to throw a bar of soap at her to get her to leave.

 ;D ;D ;D
Hare made Goat giggle
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on August 17, 2009, 07:14:20 PM
You could try a local retailer, or any place that uses inventory control, especially in the back room. They use magnetic strips to stick on the edges of shelves with product bar code tags stuck to them. They come in a long strip, coiled up; you just cut off however much magnetic strip you need. It is available, in a much larger quantity than you need, at office supply sites: http://www.quill.com/catalog/browse/sku.aspx?sku=UNI05091509&Effort_Code=UNI&Find_Number=MAVMR5081P (http://www.quill.com/catalog/browse/sku.aspx?sku=UNI05091509&Effort_Code=UNI&Find_Number=MAVMR5081P)  which is why I say try and beg some off a retailer or other business. [I think we probably have some at the hospital somewhere]. Unless you want to go into the Ach-med refrigerator magnet business. ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
You could try a local retailer, or any place that uses inventory control, especially in the back room. They use magnetic strips to stick on the edges of shelves with product bar code tags stuck to them. They come in a long strip, coiled up; you just cut off however much magnetic strip you need. It is available, in a much larger quantity than you need, at office supply sites: http://www.quill.com/catalog/browse/sku.aspx?sku=UNI05091509&Effort_Code=UNI&Find_Number=MAVMR5081P (http://www.quill.com/catalog/browse/sku.aspx?sku=UNI05091509&Effort_Code=UNI&Find_Number=MAVMR5081P)  which is why I say try and beg some off a retailer or other business. [I think we probably have some at the hospital somewhere]. Unless you want to go into the Ach-med refrigerator magnet business. ;D

I like the idea of being able to cut the size I want Dude. I'll have to do a good google search.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 17, 2009, 08:05:19 PM
... I have topo maps of the three states that I could run into (NC, TN, VA) in a bugout. Routes are marked and, except for a couple new ones, pre-driven. I have some military 1:50,000 of the area and have some more coming....

Goatdog, you may have thought of this already, but... be sure to stop your marked routes (i.e. what you draw on the maps themselves) one town/village/whatever short of your real destination.  You should know that area well enough to not need maps for the last leg.  OPSEC and all that, old chap.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 08:16:47 PM
Goatdog, you may have thought of this already, but... be sure to stop your marked routes (i.e. what you draw on the maps themselves) one town/village/whatever short of your real destination.  You should know that area well enough to not need maps for the last leg.  OPSEC and all that, old chap.

Yep, I got all the roads within 30 miles of home figured out. Your point is something everyone can learn from though. Operational Security should be a thread we start somewhere. 

And nice to meet you Castle6
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 17, 2009, 08:32:36 PM
Yep, I got all the roads within 30 miles of home figured out. Your point is something everyone can learn from though. Operational Security should be a thread we start somewhere. 

And nice to meet you Castle6

Nice to meet you as well Goatdog.  I read your "Steele Resolve" preview a while back.  Good opening chapter!  Where are you with the book?  Any more written between bouts of modifying your BOV and actually having to work for a living - all while not p*ssing off your HH6 by spending too much time on prepping?

Folks, if you haven't read this story (Ch. 1, anyway), read it here: http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=5503.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=5503.0) .  It's worth your time.

-End Thread Hijack-

I concur re: OPSEC.  It's hard to be both a contributor and maintain sufficient privacy on boards like this, but, if folks don't share, no-one learns.  And I'm here to learn.  Thanks for sharing!! 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 08:35:56 PM
Thanks for the plug Castle6. Actually if you scroll down far enough, I think I added a couple more chapters. I am working on more, but summer finds me outside a whole lot.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 17, 2009, 08:56:17 PM
Thanks for the plug Castle6. Actually if you scroll down far enough, I think I added a couple more chapters. I am working on more, but summer finds me outside a whole lot.

Glad to hear.  I'll check them out.  I live in southern AZ, so summer finds me inside a whole lot....   8)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 17, 2009, 08:56:35 PM
I just wanted to add, If you havn't read this, READ it!
http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=5503.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=5503.0)
I know its long, but take the time and read it!
You know, no one ever gained wisdom in a moment.
Sound bits just add to the greater stupidity of humanity.
Wisdom is the collection of information balanced with the test of time. If you can't spend time on knowledge you fool yourself with vanity.
So in conclusion, read the whole story and learn from a man who has been where few have dared to walk.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 17, 2009, 09:06:42 PM
Wow Hare. I really appreciate you and Castle6 endorsing my book. It is something I will complete in the highest quality manner that I know how. You have no idea how much I have deleted, re-thought, altered (after getting a few new ideas from HeavyG) and walked away in exasperation. What's posted is final, unless there is a typo, what isn't posted yet is still being worked/refined.

The general consensus among writers is to write everyday. I can't do that. I have to be completely absorbed with it. I do have a few chapters mostly wrote that aren't posted yet. They are SHTF and afterwards. You guys motivate me to get on it right now, but I have a my hands in a lot of pots right now.

Free copies will go to those that helped me like this.

Goatdog
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on August 18, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
awesome thread! i am so jealous of your BOV.  I am currently looking at SUVs right now so, this thread was very appropriate

BTW, let me know if you need help with your book. My degree is in Creative Writing. It is fun when i actually get to use it.  ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 18, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
Thanks Roswell. I appreciate that and may just take you up on your offer.
Title: PIIA's added
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 22, 2009, 06:09:59 PM
I mounted and wired the PIIA 540 Driving Lamps today. They were $155 ($173 with shipping and insurance) from Ebay. They were here in four days. TimSuggs tells me that I was saved a lot of $ compared to some catalogs he had seen. They were $40 cheaper than anything else I found.

Instructions were okay. They don't really tell you what to wire the rocker switch power wire to. I chose the parking lights. That allows me to use them with both low and high beams, as well as parking lights only. This is if I've turned the rocker switch on. Normally, they will be off of course.

The instructions do warn you about following state laws regarding driving and fog light usage...blah, blah, blah. I would only use them off-road or in a situation that required more light.

The wiring harness was pretty easy to hook up. It included at least three feet more than I could use. This is good, especially if I decide to add some to the roof rack later. I did add a plastic wire loom over their wiring harness so I could help make sure the elements didn't get through.

I really wanted to open up the lights and silicone them so they would be that much more waterproof, but the instructions were very specific about how any modifications would immediately void the warranty. Tim gave me that idea and he helped prevent me from spending $64 on an OEM Toyota switch that may not have been rated for these lights. I liked the PIAA rocker switch, so I mounted it on top of one of the blank dash switches I have. It is white lettering on black and it has a green light (lights off) and a red light (lights on). Had to Dremel the blank a little to allow the wire to pass through. It looks pretty good IMHO.

I still need to aim them properly, but Hurricane Bill had other plans and I was forced indoors. They seem very bright as far as I could tell in the daytime. They mounted easily to the bull bar and the 1/8" difference between the mounting brackets I was concerned about was a non-issue.

The wire looms leading from the lights conveniently disappear behind my "Pirate" license plate. The looms are only visible from the side.

Overall I am very satisfied with PIAA.

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5599/img6421z.jpg)
Left side

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5673/img6422w.jpg)
Right side

(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1319/img6424i.jpg)
Switch with power off.

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9637/img6426g.jpg)
Switch with power on and lights on.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5351/img6429u.jpg)
Switch with power on, but lights off.

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2740/img6423p.jpg)
Mounted very easily on the Hunter Bull Bar.

(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5443/img6430f.jpg)
Low beams and PIAA's.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9547/img6431w.jpg)
High beams and PIAA's.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 22, 2009, 06:17:22 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 22, 2009, 11:15:11 PM
Nice!

Very nice GD!  When do the Ma Duece 50 cals arrive for lane clearing? 


Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 22, 2009, 11:40:19 PM
Very nice GD!  When do the Ma Duece 50 cals arrive for lane clearing? 


I can't decide between an M240 or an M2. The .50 would shake the hell out of 505 but the bullets are so much more destructive.


That reminds me of when, just for fun, we mounted a Ma Deuce to the regular old M151 1/4 ton on a tall pintle mount back around 1980 or so. Thought we'd play Rat Patrol. When we fired that wonderful gun, it shook that old Jeep so badly we thought it might break the welds on the mount. Sadly, we downgraded the MG to an M60.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 22, 2009, 11:46:41 PM
Maybe a MK19 40mm instead?  Plenty of bang for the buck, lower recoil than the M2.... 
Title: Re: PIIA's added
Post by: bartsdad on August 22, 2009, 11:59:02 PM
I really wanted to open up the lights and silicone them so they would be that much more waterproof, but the instructions were very specific about how any modifications would immediately void the warranty.

I avoid RTV silicone to seal electrical connections. The acids in many RTV's do more harm that good. A good liquid electrical tape is a safer solution.

Progress is looking good on the 505.
Title: Sleeper/Storage
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 23, 2009, 07:21:31 PM
I worked on storage for 505 with a sleeper on top. I chose the "redneck" route because I like fabricating stuff to make it just right for me. A lot of the store bought stuff is a compromise, not to mention expensive.

Took a bookcase and cut, screwed, painted, stapled, upholstered, and experimented until I got it right.

I put two hinged lids on it, the front one opens from the rear and the rear one opens to the side. Then I carpeted them both.

It fits in there very well and is very strong. Now I have oodles of storage for my camping gear and other BOL/BOB stuff. I still have full usage of 505. I can still slide it out and re-configure to get up to seven passenger seating in about 30 minutes (mostly involving bolting in the middle bench).

On top, I took my already tried and proven sleeping mat and threw it in there. This includes a Therma-rest and two memory foam layers secured inside a waterproof mattress cover and covered with a fitted sheet. It has been well used and it is very comfortable. It used to be in my Tacoma aka "TacoBago."

I debated getting another storage unit with built in drawers, but the last one couldn't take my abuse and they aren't cheap. I didn't find the drawer to be much value the way I used it. I will be adding lights and putting 120 and 12V outlets on each end of this. Just ran out of time today.

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3381/img6432i.jpg)
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8692/img6434z.jpg)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4174/img6435u.jpg)
Inside rear and middle compartment. Flash makes everything look grayish, but it is all black and looks pretty good...for an amateur anyway.

(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/2191/img6436d.jpg)
Inside front compartment, there is a wheel well compartment also. I have additional shelves to add to it if I wish to further divide the interior.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7295/img6437g.jpg)
Jump seat can go down or it folds up to the side to make more cargo room.

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4208/img6439t.jpg)
View from left rear door.

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1628/img6441h.jpg)
View from right rear door.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9234/img6442w.jpg)
Comfy little "studio" apartment?

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2949/img6443pft.jpg)
Mattress thrown in.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2653/img6444f.jpg)
Could sleep with head near front or...

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2603/img6447m.jpg)
at the rear. Seat down...

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3600/img6448b.jpg)
or seat up.

(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6695/img6453q.jpg)
Maybe get some curtains soon.

I have a whole lot more to go, but got a lot done this weekend and have to say I'm quite content with my progress. I took possession of this truck in early July, so I'm doing okay.


Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 23, 2009, 08:46:58 PM
Very nice goatbud!
Very nice!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 23, 2009, 08:58:35 PM
Very nice goatbud!
Very nice!

Thanks Hairball!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 23, 2009, 09:41:26 PM
You done GOOD GD!  I like that!  A lot!  OK, three exclamation points in a row is my limit.  I'd really like to see more on the "sleeping system" when you have the time.  I also use a memory foam mattress topper (5 whopping inches worth) to sleep on and they are indeed soft as a pillow to sleep on.  I have put down on paper some car sleepers like you built, but with my reflux issues I am going to have to make my storage lid do double duty as an inclined sleeping wedge as well.  But looking at your build, I can see how I could make that work.  It has been my experience that the memory foam is pretty hot in the summer time because you sink into it so much and it's so dense, but looking forwar to it as the season gets a little cooler.  We actually hit 60 degrees here in the Heart of Dixie last night, so fall is on it's way. 

Have you given any thought as to your cold weather heat setup, or just gonna tough it out?  I gotta have heat, doesn't have to be much, but shivering myself to sleep is not my preference.  And if it's hot, I can forget about sleep, same rule applies.  I guess I've just turned into an old softy.  Actually, my next Doctors visit I am going to be bringing that up.  Just this summer, the heat and the sun have really been like Kryptonite to me.  Sucks all the strength and energy out of me in nothing flat.  Most of my RX meds have this little warning on them "Warning - Increased Sensitivity To Sunlight".  Now exactly "what" that means I don't know, but it has really driven me into the ground like a lawn dart this summer.

I designed a passive cooling tower for a surveillance van I build a long time ago using a 5 gallon bucket of dry ice hooked up to a rooftop RV toilet vent and a 12"diameter  piece of double walled pvc pipe (pipe within a pipe) that worked pretty good.  Vented the dry ice through the inner pipe to the roof vent and sucked fresh air down the 1" gap around the inner pipe hooked to another vent on the side of the vehicle.  With insulation inside the van, it would lower the inside air temps to about 15 degrees cooler than ambient (90 degrees outside = 75 degrees inside) with the fan running continuously.  But no noise (outside), no engine running, and no visible signs outside either.

What you got in mind for "Sweet Little 505" for heat and cool?

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Mr. Blank on August 23, 2009, 09:50:27 PM
GD,
Dude...It's not very often I get an erection looking at a vehicle, but..well...here we are....  ;D
That is becoming an urban assualt vehicle rather than a BOV.
Make me one. Please.  ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: vicious on August 24, 2009, 07:26:53 AM
+1 to GD. I just finished reading this from start to finish and am going to employ quite a few of these ideas to my BOV. Awesome project. Keep the updates coming!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 24, 2009, 05:19:07 PM
Thanks Vicious, Trioxin, and Tim.

As far as heating and cooling go, I'll have to say it won't be as elaborate as the TacoBago was. It actually had a Coleman GolfCat catalytic heater that ran on propane when I was off-grid. It was 3000 btu and only had a 4" x 4" ventilation requirement. I just slid one of the topper windows open to meet that. It mounted either in a cupholder or the included wire stand. They make the BlackCat, ProCat, and SportCat that are similiar. It kept it very warm back there. I plan to continue to use that in 505. This is in addition to using one of several sleeping bags and poncho liners (my favorite piece of gear ever).

http://www.summitcampinggear.com/colemanheaters.html (http://www.summitcampinggear.com/colemanheaters.html)

On grid, I had 110 capability in the Tacobago and ran a space heater if an outlet was available. It too kept things just right, temp-wise. It had a thermostat.

For staying cool I had a Haier 7000 btu portable a/c. This was an actual air conditioner, not an humidifier. It was just awesome. It too was thermostat controlled and I loved it. I still have it at home and have rolled it into my garage and my shed to cool things down there. I cut a vent hole for the A/C exhaust right into the topper.

http://www.target.com/Haier-000-BTU-Portable-Air-Conditioner/dp/B0014JKCPE/ref=sc_ri_2?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_r=1TJAPNZEM717X7QX3JTZ&pf_rd_p=481695491&pf_rd_i=0&pf_rd_s=bottom-11&pf_rd_m=A1VC38T7YXB528&pf_rd_t=201 (http://www.target.com/Haier-000-BTU-Portable-Air-Conditioner/dp/B0014JKCPE/ref=sc_ri_2?ie=UTF8&pf_rd_r=1TJAPNZEM717X7QX3JTZ&pf_rd_p=481695491&pf_rd_i=0&pf_rd_s=bottom-11&pf_rd_m=A1VC38T7YXB528&pf_rd_t=201)

I don't plan to go as far as A/C for the rear of 505, but have pondered it, It would fit and the A/C exhaust would easily be adjusted to fit out the side window. I have that SUV tent if i want to do mid-summer camping (I did) and if i was actually doing a post-SHTF bugout I guess I'd just deal with the heat if setting up the tent was not tactically sound.

Something that really helped was the foil wrapped bubble insulation available at Lowe's or Home Depot. It kept heat in when it was cold and cool in when it was hot. It also covered the windows so no Trioxins could peep in and get erections.

The memory foam is not very thick so I don't "sink" into it, combined with the Therma-rest and enclosed in the mattress protector, it is really comfortable.

I only have a few pics of the old BOV, the Tacobago. I used it exclusively for camping and drove one of my other cars for normal commuting.

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1289/tacobagoconstructionjan.jpg)
This is while I was building it up.

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6158/obx0408frisconps4.jpg)
This is during a camping trip to the Outer Banks. It was loaded up and I really enjoyed the many solo camping trips I took with it. I hope to get as much usage out of 505, so even if TEOTWAWKI doesn't happen, I'll have a great camping rig. I plan to hit a few battlefields and other historic sites starting next month.

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5664/obx0408frisconps3.jpg)
The TacoBago was quite stealthy. It looked like a "Grandpa Truck" and that was fine with me. I still have it at my TN home, minus the topper, and use it for general house chores. I will never get rid of it as long as she has life left in her. I use it to haul yard waste, take the dog to the vet, teach the kids to drive a stick, etc. It hardly gets washed and is uber-reliable. 505 is a big step up but TacoBago was more than adequate.

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/6663/assateague040812.jpg)
At Assateague Island in Maryland the wild horses and ponies just do as they please. These damn horses set up camp as soon as I did and stayed until I left two days later. They didn't beg for food and they wouldn't let me closer than 10 feet, so I don't know what they accomplished hanging around this old goatdog, but hang they did.

Trioxin, as far as your erection goes...well, your on your own.

Tim, I'll get some more pics of the storage/sleeper as i finish adding lights/outlets to it and load it up with gear. Now I am considering one of those ARB type 12V fridges.

Vicious, start a thread on your BOV. It is fun to read others ideas.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Mr. Blank on August 24, 2009, 06:39:20 PM
Trioxin, as far as your erection goes...well, your on your own.

Man...if I had a nickel every time I heard that....
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 24, 2009, 06:43:53 PM
It actually had a Coleman GolfCat catalytic heater that ran on propane when I was off-grid. It was 3000 btu and only had a 4" x 4" ventilation requirement.

Super cool project GD!

GD, I know you know this so please don't think I'm preachin' atcha.  But this is the second message in a row where someone mentions using either a stove or a propane heater in an enclosed space.  Yes, I see both you and Homeshow mentioned the ventilation requirement and took the appropriate measures to prevent CO poisoning.  BUT, you can call it "Murphy", or you can attribute it to "shit happens", or the kids got cold and closed the window (as told to St. Peter at the Pearly Gates no doubt...), and it really doesn't matter how it happens, but for whatever/however reason should that vent get closed off, snowed over, polar bear poops it closed, whatever...

For $30.00 you can buy a CO alarm just about anywhere that will awaken the dead with it's ear piercing horn IF whatever happens, and you start building up dangerous levels of CO (Carbon Monoxide).  Very cheap insurance in any type of BO shelter or vehicle.  You and HomeShow are most definitely worth more than $30.00 to all of us here and I know your families place an even greater value on you too.

So for anyone considering ANY type of BO shelter, spend the $30.00, and make sure you and yours see the next sunrise together.

Tim.

PS:  I'm going to copy and paste this to GD's message about his 505 Project and swap the names around a little.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 24, 2009, 07:25:50 PM
Point taken Tim. The package did say it was safe for tents and confined spaces as long as the 4" x 4" ventilation requirement was met. It also shut down if the air wasn't right. I can get a CO alarm that runs 12V. Had em in all my RV's.

In 1982 our Cav Squadron lost 3 soldiers to CO poisoning as they monitored the Czech Border from their running jeep. I've also responded to a few suicides from tailpipe sucking. So I respect what it can do.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 24, 2009, 07:45:57 PM
Point taken Tim. The package did say it was safe for tents and confined spaces as long as the 4" x 4" ventilation requirement was met. It also shut down if the air wasn't right. I can get a CO alarm that runs 12V. Had em in all my RV's.

In 1982 our Cav Squadron lost 3 soldiers to CO poisoning as they monitored the Czech Border from their running jeep. I've also responded to a few suicides from tailpipe sucking. So I respect what it can do.

Yep, it's never a pretty sight.  We had several cops never wake up after trying to stay warm in their vehicle when posted on a remote bird stuck out on the runway somewhere.  CO is odorless, colorless and you don't even know it's happening to ya.  I have a 9v battery model CO Detector in my Stalker Van just in case I start getting some in the back when I have to toss folks back there.  It's strictly a cargo van setup (Astro), with a full divider between the cab and the cargo area and I really can't see or hear much of what goes on back there, so I figured for those few times when I got "Live Cargo", it would be nice to know I'm not killing them as we drive to a jobsite

And it's something that a lot of folks simply never think about.  There's a reason they call it the "Silent Killer".

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 24, 2009, 07:49:38 PM
We call those Serial Killer vans.

"It puts the lotion on its skin"  ;D

They make great BOV projects too.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on August 24, 2009, 07:57:00 PM

http://www.summitcampinggear.com/colemanheaters.html (http://www.summitcampinggear.com/colemanheaters.html)

thanks for that link. I am totally going to pick up one of those survivalcats and the CO alarm as well for my camping trips.
 
I like the Tacobango GD. Is that a flat screen I see in the back? great craftsmanship on the whole thing. I agree with Trioxin, I want you to make me a BOV too.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 24, 2009, 08:01:46 PM
Yep, that's a 15" flatscreen HD TV/DVD combo. Watched a lot of movies on that thing. It's still sitting around collecting dust now. It is both 12V and 110.

The heaters are wonderful devices. Great value for the cost. I easily got six to seven hours out of one 1lb propane tank too.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 24, 2009, 09:07:35 PM
I hate this thread.  Every time I see a 4runner, I think of GD's little project and think "that bed setup just isn't gonna fit in my Mazda"....   :D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 25, 2009, 02:40:48 PM
I hate this thread.  Every time I see a 4runner, I think of GD's little project and think "that bed setup just isn't gonna fit in my Mazda"....   :D

Don't be so sure. There is a guy on Vandwellers that lives in a Ford Fiesta. He removed the back seat and made a flat floorboard. I don't know how he does it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on August 25, 2009, 06:48:26 PM
As good as the 505GD is, I still want the RV from Stripes!   ;)

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 25, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
As good as the 505GD is, I still want the RV from Stripes!   ;)


So do I!

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3034/09041608gmcem50urbanass.jpg)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 25, 2009, 07:52:17 PM
So do I!

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3034/09041608gmcem50urbanass.jpg)

That's NOT an RV.  That's THE EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle!  "And that's a fact... Jack"

Company Commander:  "Where's your GoatDog Soldier?"  "Blowed up, sirrrrr."

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 25, 2009, 08:04:17 PM
"Tim Suggs, you are a madman. When you stole that cow, and your friend Goatdog tried to make it with the cow. I want to party with you, cowboy. If the two of us got together, forget it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 25, 2009, 08:18:57 PM
"Convicted?  No, never convicted."

And I ain't even touching the "flaming" lines here my good GoatDog.

Nice to see another Stripes fan.  And I guess we really should get a life, quoting "Stripes" lines is pretty pathetic.  Boom Chockoloca, Boom!

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 25, 2009, 08:43:42 PM
How about this one...
Speed? No I don't think its the speed so much as all the cough syrup I drank.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on August 25, 2009, 08:46:12 PM
Ain't nuthin wrong with quoting great movie lines!

"AAAAAAARRRMY TRAINING, SIR!" ;D

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 25, 2009, 09:05:52 PM
"Hare, I've noticed that you're always last."

"I'm pacing myself, Goatdog."
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 25, 2009, 09:12:50 PM
Ain't nuthin wrong with quoting great movie lines!

"AAAAAAARRRMY TRAINING, SIR!" ;D

I use that quote at work to this day!     

Followed by, "I'm getting too old for this $h1t"
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 25, 2009, 09:14:25 PM
"Hare, I've noticed that you're always last."

"I'm pacing myself, Goatdog."
LOL

That's about how I felt when the ol' lady and I took our BOBs on a practice hike to our primary family meet up location not long ago.
Since then I'm walking almost every day, eating less, and have dropped almost 10 pounds.
I'm sheading my John Candy self and getting back in shape if it kills me.
Well, maybe not kills me...
 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on August 26, 2009, 12:30:46 AM
As cool as the  EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle is, I like thew stealthness of the Wagon Queen Family Truckster. It's a damn fine automobile. If you think you hate it now, wait until you drive it.

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5355/familytruckster.jpg) (http://img145.imageshack.us/i/familytruckster.jpg/)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 26, 2009, 04:34:28 AM
That Truckster is one fine looking piece of Detroit machinery!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 26, 2009, 06:27:13 AM
Now I got all the good lines from Vacation rolling around in me little head...  Thanks DadofBart!  I think Vegas Vacation was my favorite though.  What's next, quoting lines from Cherry2000, where does the madness end?  OK, I'd better get back on topic before BeserkerPrime swings by here and catches me molesting another thread. <grin>

Does 505 have an udder warmer GD?  Maybe you could take a bunch of baby bottle warmers and arrange them into an udder pattern for those rare but highly volatile situations when you are called into service for yet another harrowing Goat Rescue Mission and you find the victim stuck up to her udders in a snowbank?  Just a suggestion.

Or maybe a parachute system so you could drive off the edge of a cliff James Bond style as the hoards of Zombies were closing in?  I actually worked on an automatic parachute brake once that would be triggered by roadside sensors when you fell asleep at the wheel and left the bituminous beltway.  At the time, sensor technology was pretty much a crap shoot and the chance for accidental deployment could not be eliminated adequately.  The "idea" did win a NTSB  "Honorable Mention Award in the `80's though.

On your "Road Bed", have you ever looked at what the Aussies use down under?  It's a similar setup, a bed in a bag kind of thing, but designed for ground use and you can zip yourself up in the thing and you are weatherproof, bugproof and varmint/snakeproof.  http://myworld.ebay.com/wildearth-australia/ (http://myworld.ebay.com/wildearth-australia/)  has a ton of different variations.  I really like your setup, but if you ever had to BO from the BOV an Australian SWAG would come in real handy.

All of these are from WildEarth...
(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/Survival%20Podcast%20Forum/069a_1_b.jpg)

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/Survival%20Podcast%20Forum/7841_3.jpg)

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/Survival%20Podcast%20Forum/968e_3.jpg)

(http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp229/timsuggs/Survival%20Podcast%20Forum/ef86_3.jpg)

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on August 26, 2009, 09:38:39 AM
Those are pretty sweet. Great for a BOB
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 26, 2009, 02:28:39 PM
My BOB, which is a very long thread waiting to happen, includes plenty of 'go to ground" stuff that I've picked up over the years. I have a bag and bivy setup that should take me below 0 temps.

I'll have to start that thread pretty soon. Mine is decidedly different than most BOBs.

I could get that Hannibal if it come with that Aussie blond?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 26, 2009, 08:36:50 PM
My BOB, which is a very long thread waiting to happen, includes plenty of 'go to ground" stuff that I've picked up over the years. I have a bag and bivy setup that should take me below 0 temps.  I'll have to start that thread pretty soon. Mine is decidedly different than most BOBs.  I could get that Hannibal if it come with that Aussie blond?

Can't wait to read that one GD!  I need to do a write on my current and past BoB systems as well.  Mine all share one common concept, "stealth".  "They" can't hurt/steal/injure/kill what they don't know is there.  Back when I lived on two wheels as a nomad and traveled all over this rock, I "camped" in some of the most damned places you could imagine, roadside culverts, drainage pipes under the freeways, terraced cut thru's in mountains, Interstate Junction "islands", I even camped smack dab in the middle of the median on I-40 just outside of of Little Rock for two days when I was broke down, all right under the nose of the traffic, the Police, and the road workers.  Used a Hennesy Hammock under the I-40 Memphis/West Memphis I-40 bridge for a week after hiding my bike in the delta lands below me.  So, to me, it's all about the stealth.

Tim.



Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 26, 2009, 08:47:15 PM
Really cool Tim. I never camped in a median. I have done some "stealthy" things in plain sight. Still do. A skillset that has been rather valuable at times. Someday (soon at a Region 3 meet) over some Alabama sweet tea we can trade secrets.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 26, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
Really cool Tim. I never camped in a median. I have done some "stealthy" things in plain sight. Still do. A skillset that has been rather valuable at times. Someday (soon at a Region 3 meet) over some Alabama sweet tea we can trade secrets.

Anytime my good GoatDog, anytime.  And soon too I hope!

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on August 27, 2009, 05:01:17 AM
Can't wait to read that one GD!  I need to do a write on my current and past BoB systems as well.  Mine all share one common concept, "stealth".  "They" can't hurt/steal/injure/kill what they don't know is there.  Back when I lived on two wheels as a nomad and traveled all over this rock, I "camped" in some of the most damned places you could imagine, roadside culverts, drainage pipes under the freeways, terraced cut thru's in mountains, Interstate Junction "islands", I even camped smack dab in the middle of the median on I-40 just outside of of Little Rock for two days when I was broke down, all right under the nose of the traffic, the Police, and the road workers.  Used a Hennesy Hammock under the I-40 Memphis/West Memphis I-40 bridge for a week after hiding my bike in the delta lands below me.  So, to me, it's all about the stealth.

Tim.


That is pretty cool.  I have been thinking about picking ups one of those Hennesy Hammocks. Would you give them a good review? You can PM if you want so we don't further hijack Goatdog's kickass thread

However, I may hijack it a little here.  I was thinking of getting a Saturn Vue as an everyday driver and making it also a BOV.  Any thoughts on the Vue? I'd really appreciate your input. You can PM me or I can start a new thread if I need to.


Goatdog, what all do you have planned to make the 505 more stealthy?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on August 27, 2009, 06:14:35 AM
Want stealth? Wire up a pushbutton to make it change into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peugeot_505_Sedan.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peugeot_505_Sedan.jpg)

Hey, it would still be a 505. Only forum members would know……… ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on August 27, 2009, 07:06:45 AM
My BOB, which is a very long thread waiting to happen, includes plenty of 'go to ground" stuff that I've picked up over the years. I have a bag and bivy setup that should take me below 0 temps.

I'll have to start that thread pretty soon. Mine is decidedly different than most BOBs.

I could get that Hannibal if it come with that Aussie blond?

Amen to that brother, but then I am single. Your wifey might just take a dim view of her coming along in the BOV.  Or would you try to pass her off as your laboratory assistant, Dr. Frawnkensteen? ;D

You may just have to settle for one of the bivy tents in Sportsman's Guide - no blonds portrayed, no blonds included.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 27, 2009, 02:25:45 PM
That is pretty cool.  I have been thinking about picking ups one of those Hennesy Hammocks. Would you give them a good review? You can PM if you want so we don't further hijack Goatdog's kickass thread

However, I may hijack it a little here.  I was thinking of getting a Saturn Vue as an everyday driver and making it also a BOV.  Any thoughts on the Vue? I'd really appreciate your input. You can PM me or I can start a new thread if I need to.

Goatdog, what all do you have planned to make the 505 more stealthy?

I haven't done anything with 505 so far involving stealth. The TacoBago was far more stealthy. I'm not sure I can make 505 stealthy and still put all the stuff i want to on/in it. SInce the interior is modified and more is coming, I plan to tint all windows to be darker. This will make it tougher to see some of the preps and mods. I almost never have it somewhere that is not pretty secure, but why ask for trouble. I have a couple ruses planned that, post-SHTF, might get me through a situation or two, but they are based on sneaking around overseas and may not work as well domestically. Other than that, i don't really know how to lower my profile when I'm still with 505. On foot, that's a lot easier.

I like the Vue and it has a really good V6 option. It is available in AWD, which will help with poor weather traction. Also it has independednt rear suspension and I'm a guy who likes vehicles that handle well. I don't know how much need you have for off-road usage. If you do, the drawbacks might be that it is AWD and not 4WD (with a proper Low range, center locking diffs, ground clearance,etc). It is also unibody, which is fine for most applications except tougher off-roading.

If going off road is not a concern, then I say go for it. It looks like a great small SUV and it has a powerful engine.

Want stealth? Wire up a pushbutton to make it change into this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peugeot_505_Sedan.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Peugeot_505_Sedan.jpg)

Hey, it would still be a 505. Only forum members would know……… ;)


Does it have to be a French car?

Amen to that brother, but then I am single. Your wifey might just take a dim view of her coming along in the BOV.  Or would you try to pass her off as your laboratory assistant, Dr. Frawnkensteen? ;D

You may just have to settle for one of the bivy tents in Sportsman's Guide - no blonds portrayed, no blonds included.

I might need a navigator and door gunner for 505. It's not my fault she is a stacked blond with neither skill, times are hard post-SHTF! ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TimSuggs on August 27, 2009, 07:46:16 PM
I'm thinking a big assed cammo net?   Like what they cover the aircraft with. 

Tim.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on August 28, 2009, 09:42:18 AM


I might need a navigator and door gunner for 505. It's not my fault she is a stacked blond with neither skill, times are hard post-SHTF! ;D

if she's in the truck i'll take the door gunner spot.  the truck is reinforced with kevlar or plate, right?  a boob blowout from enemy fire would be awful.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 28, 2009, 02:54:38 PM
if she's in the truck i'll take the door gunner spot.  the truck is reinforced with kevlar or plate, right?  a boob blowout from enemy fire would be awful.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on August 28, 2009, 04:54:34 PM
if she's in the truck i'll take the door gunner spot.  the truck is reinforced with kevlar or plate, right?  a boob blowout from enemy fire would be awful.

I don't as though I'd trust him on this; the door gunner's job should be to look OUT THE DOOR, not ogling the back seat occupant. ;D
Title: A little here, a little there...
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 30, 2009, 07:26:53 PM
I worked a little on 505 today, nothing major, but still stuff that makes me a little more prepped.

If you remember earlier in the thread, I bought a couple side window screens that are held on by magnets. These would allow me to sleep in 505 and have some airflow but keep the skeeters out. I liked them but there were none made for the rear hatch window which also rolls down.

A week or so ago DEV pm'd me with an ebay link for some Earth magnets. I likeEarth magnets because they are very powerful and stainless, I use the hockey puck sized ones for my nefarious work. I bought them (a 10 pack of quarter sized ones) for $12.99 shipped. I also bought some window screen at Lowe's. Then I took my ever present duct tape and made me a rear window screen. The Earth magnets are too powerful without shielding, so I covered them in automotive-grade carpet before I duct taped them to the screen.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1741/img6468h.jpg)
It worked well. I made it oversized so I could fit it over the spoiler. The size I cut is 36" x 62".

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5193/img6467.jpg)
I found by folding it under itself I could adjust it to have a great seal even around the non-magnetized areas (taillights and glass).

Additionally, if the situation were to permit, I might want to maximize the airflow by leaving the hatch fully open. I took a regular cot-sized mosquito net and experimented to see if it would fit. It does. So I now have that option also.

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9741/img6466l.jpg)

I installed Silverstar Ultras in my lowbeams. I have to wait until night to see how they do. I liked them well in the Silverado I had a few years back. Simple install, just make sure you use a little bulb grease to make it last. Pics to follow when I get around to a night shot. I plan to replace the OEM fogs and hi beams with the same.

I wrapped the come-a-long and pulley into a 6' x 8' tarp and put it in the subfloor.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1070/img6469q.jpg)

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2088/img6470m.jpg)

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1982/img6471v.jpg)
It is strapped down in there. I never mentioned the Weathertech floormat system I have. I have both fronts and the one piece middle section. I highly recommend them, they contain any spills you might have, cover the entire floor, and are easy to clean. Together they were about $180 a year or so ago.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8116/img6472z.jpg)
A few years ago I bought a rooftop soft carrier cargo bag for $5. Yep $5. It was in the bargain rack at a dollar store. It is 40" x 40". I can use it on my roof rack and still have 24" of open rack behind it. It'll help keep things out of the weather. Yep, it was $5.  ;D Came in an Army digi camo motif.

(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4084/img6473nly.jpg)
I have all kinds of vehicle recovery stuff in 505, but realized that if I get stuck in a brush heavy ditch I was gonna be hurtin'. So I got an el cheapo machete at Wal-Mart and sharpened the edge to my satisfaction. I've used machetes in Panama both in Jungle School and during my assignment there. Makes you feel visceral.

For now I have in the forward section of the storage, my "gray" BOB, my hunting waistpack, the roof cargo bag, and the machete. In the middle I have a small dome tent, a sleeping bag, another poncho liner, and a vehicle tool kit. The rear will be my power center. It has the Optima battery, two of the inverters, and various 12V and 110 extensions. The wheelwell compartment only has a fishing rod and tackle. All compartments have plenty of room left in them.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8391/img6474g.jpg)
This is the forward compartment. I forgot to snap pics of the rear, middle, and wheelwell compartments. Getting senile.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4144/img6478e.jpg)
This is how it looks right now. Jump seat up.

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3993/img6481.jpg)
Jump seat down.

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7007/img6485p.jpg)

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 30, 2009, 07:44:48 PM
Looking nice.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 30, 2009, 07:47:17 PM
Thanks HARE!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: The Wilderness on August 30, 2009, 10:08:42 PM
Goatdog, just catching up on your progress and it is looking good brother! Very good job! You have definitely got me thinking about my truck and its organization.

I am sure I will be picking your brain once I get started.

TW


Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 30, 2009, 10:55:14 PM
Ummm, dude... license plate OPSEC....?   ???
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 31, 2009, 08:03:28 AM
Ummm, dude... license plate OPSEC....?   ???

I appreciate your concern. We all have different levels of comfort when it comes to personal security. I'm well versed on what is really important to conceal. I've never had much in the way of paranoia. Not to start the tin foil headspin here, but it is pretty easy now to figure out who anyone on TSP is. In a short period of time no less.

I drive down the road with my license plate exposed, I'm sure everyone does. I don't understand why I should cover it here. I'm not worried about being on some government list either, since all my work is through the government anyway, I think they know who I am. As for a person with criminal intentions, counting my BOL's, I have four addresses, so good luck finding 505 or my family.

Anyway, I thank you for looking at the thread and I really do understand where you are coming from. I just look at it from a different aspect.

JMHO,
Goatdog
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roknrandy on August 31, 2009, 09:36:11 AM
When you done and have some time I've got a '93 Aerostar you can do next  ;D ;D



LOL, Very nice work you've done on your vehicle.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 31, 2009, 02:25:58 PM
When you done and have some time I've got a '93 Aerostar you can do next  ;D ;D

LOL, Very nice work you've done on your vehicle.

A van is a blank canvas waiting for customization. I'd have fun with that.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on August 31, 2009, 08:27:31 PM
... it is pretty easy now to figure out who anyone on TSP is. In a short period of time no less.

Drat!  They're on to me!

(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:vWB07TVajVBwhM:http://fromtheleft.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/kimjongil2.jpg)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 31, 2009, 08:53:57 PM
I love Team America!

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: firetoad on August 31, 2009, 09:03:58 PM
Yeah!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: ColdHaven on September 01, 2009, 06:28:55 AM
Did you have to grind on that machete to get an edge? I know I did. I just recently bought one. Its okay, but I think I am going to buy a kukri machete for long encounters in the woods. I understand the need to it to be made of a high carbon steel in order to chop what it needs to, but damn...couldn't they put a somewhat decent edge on it first?

Looks like your project is coming along nicely, man!

Some of  your pics are not showing up though.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on September 01, 2009, 07:50:00 AM
Did you have to grind on that machete to get an edge? I know I did. I just recently bought one. Its okay, but I think I am going to buy a kukri machete for long encounters in the woods. I understand the need to it to be made of a high carbon steel in order to chop what it needs to, but damn...couldn't they put a somewhat decent edge on it first?

Looks like your project is coming along nicely, man!

Some of  your pics are not showing up though.

Gerber makes a nice machete with a saw on the back of the blade

http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-22-41576-Gator-Machete-Sheath/dp/B000Q9BBZI (http://www.amazon.com/Gerber-22-41576-Gator-Machete-Sheath/dp/B000Q9BBZI)

America! America! Coming to save mutha f***ing day yeah!
Terrorists your time is through, now you're gonna have to answer to ... America! F*** Yeah!
It's the dream that we all share, It's the hope for tomorrow!
F*** Yeah!


Ok, maybe I have seen that one too much.   :D

end thread hi-jack
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on September 01, 2009, 09:59:14 AM
I must say, Goat, I am just a tad envious of your 505. Very nice.

It has been a lot of years since I rebuilt or tricked out a car, and a lot of miles to boot, too much desk time and other demands on my time and money in the meantime too. And even though unemployed at the moment, I am shopping for a Tahoe-esque BOV, will slick it up somewhat. Also looking to trade in the F350. Great truck for ranching, but I don't have a ranch anymore, and as a BOV is suffers a number of things - no tailgate and open bed for 2. On the other hand, I can tow 16,000 pounds if I really had to.

So I am reliving things watching your 505, and selecting ideas for the next BOV. Thanks, and have fun so those of us living vicariously through you can have fun too!  ;D

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 01, 2009, 05:30:23 PM
Did you have to grind on that machete to get an edge? I know I did. I just recently bought one. Its okay, but I think I am going to buy a kukri machete for long encounters in the woods. I understand the need to it to be made of a high carbon steel in order to chop what it needs to, but damn...couldn't they put a somewhat decent edge on it first?

Looks like your project is coming along nicely, man!

Some of  your pics are not showing up though.

I wasn't aware of any pic problems. I'll check it out. They are all coming from Imageshack and so far this is the first I'd heard of issues.

The machete needed a lot of work. But it was $6.88 and will do the job. I'm not hacking a trail through the Amazon either. That Gerber that Roswell mentions sounds like the ticket. I have a SOG blade/saw combo ordered through a friend right now. I'll review it when I have a chance.

I must say, Goat, I am just a tad envious of your 505. Very nice.

It has been a lot of years since I rebuilt or tricked out a car, and a lot of miles to boot, too much desk time and other demands on my time and money in the meantime too. And even though unemployed at the moment, I am shopping for a Tahoe-esque BOV, will slick it up somewhat. Also looking to trade in the F350. Great truck for ranching, but I don't have a ranch anymore, and as a BOV is suffers a number of things - no tailgate and open bed for 2. On the other hand, I can tow 16,000 pounds if I really had to.

So I am reliving things watching your 505, and selecting ideas for the next BOV. Thanks, and have fun so those of us living vicariously through you can have fun too!  ;D


That F350 really sounds like a great vehicle for a brute of a BOV. I'd put a great truck camper in it if I could find a good deal. That would be the ultimate BOV. I have a soft spot for the F350, since I believe one saved my life more than once in Iraq. It's on the "Observations on Combat from a Moving Vehicle" thread here in Transportation. I understand your needs and the Tahoe sized SUV will probably fill the bill.

Thanks for all your comments. 505 is really a "mild" build so far. I see so many nice ones on Expedition Portal. These guys are serious.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 01, 2009, 05:59:13 PM

America! America! Coming to save mutha f***ing day yeah!
Terrorists your time is through, now you're gonna have to answer to ... America! F*** Yeah!
It's the dream that we all share, It's the hope for tomorrow!
F*** Yeah!

Ok, maybe I have seen that one too much.   :D

end thread hi-jack

Lisa: Promise me you'll never die.
Gary: You know I can't promise that.
Lisa: If you did that, I would make love to you right now.
Gary: I promise I'll never die.

 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on September 03, 2009, 12:53:20 PM
GD throw a full sized fiberglass handled ax in your rig. Comes in handy for Zombie attacks also/
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 03, 2009, 01:54:19 PM
GD throw a full sized fiberglass handled ax in your rig. Comes in handy for Zombie attacks also/

I'm shocked you haven't told me to get a chainsaw in there. ;D

I plan to add a full complement of pioneer tools soon.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: No One of Consequence on September 04, 2009, 12:31:15 AM
Nice work, and I like the thinking behind it. Here’s something for your window needs: A four-layer sandwich made from two layers of reflectix inside a shell of black indoor/outdoor carpet. Tape or sew the edges (“gaffer” tape stands up to heat better than any duct tape I’ve tried). I’ve had very good results with this as an RV windshield curtain for both temperature and light control. The next version will probably add an inch of open-cell foam in the middle, but it already passes less heat than the adjacent wall with 2” fiberglass insulation. I’ll probably use garden hose to internally define all the edges next time, the current edition just has a 1x2 at the bottom. Right now, the thickness is less than an inch.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on September 04, 2009, 01:49:25 AM
I'm shocked you haven't told me to get a chainsaw in there. ;D

I plan to add a full complement of pioneer tools soon.
  I would have, but I wasn't sure if you wanted gas inside your rig.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 21, 2009, 05:17:48 PM
I haven't forgotten 505. I put Silverstar Ultras in every forward light this past weekend. So now high, low, and fogs are so much brighter than before. I have some new tail lights on order too. At the gun show I bought a simple bagmaster type nylon holster with a metal belt clip for a 4" .357. I clipped this to the seat bar under my right thigh. It is very sturdy and out of sight without sticking your head into the floorboard. I can now draw the revolver very rapidly while seated. Faster than anything worn of my hip, ankle, weak-side chest, etc. I also made a well-hidden place for my truck gun, the M1 Carbine Tactical.

Ordered a rear skid bar for the tail of 505 too. Stay tuned for pics and reviews.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: CountryRootsCityJob on September 28, 2009, 10:45:02 AM
  I would have, but I wasn't sure if you wanted gas inside your rig.

Roof rack?  ;D

This is an awesome thread... and a sweet setup! 

...Some day...
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on October 02, 2009, 06:41:11 AM
Slight hijack-since this gets a lot of views- and the sale ends 10/8/09. I got an e-mail on this folding bucket & it looks like it might be a nifty addition to a BOV, or even camper or boat:

 http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.aspx?itemnumber=H8202&utm_source=emailburst&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=H8202 (http://www.grizzly.com/products/item.aspx?itemnumber=H8202&utm_source=emailburst&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=H8202)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 02, 2009, 09:15:24 AM
That's actually kind of cool!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 03, 2009, 06:40:33 PM
I worked a little on 505 today. The original taillights were fading a little (five years old), so I replaced them with these blacked out ones.

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/571/img6514w.jpg)
The left is the original and the right is a new black one

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8195/img6515ht.jpg)
Original

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3451/img6516w.jpg)
New

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8761/img6519xg.jpg)
I like the look

Then I got a new tow hitch rack to replace the one I left at home for the wife's Sequoia. Hers is larger but far uglier. This on cost me, get this, $26.97 through Sportsmans Guide. They are normally $59 at most websites and I saw it for $159 at Master Locks website. Shipping was $8. This is far cheaper than Wal-Mart.

While some hold up to 500 lbs this one holds 300. The bigger ones are ugly. My plan is four five gallon gas cans and use the remaining room for whatever. Of course I'll only use it for bugging out and camping. I believe with all the interior mods, the roof rack, and now the hitch rack, that I have maxed out the cargo carrying capacity of 505.

(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8593/img6520i.jpg)

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7539/img6522o.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6057/img6526g.jpg)

I am waiting on delivery of the rear skid bar. It will add some protection and looks really good. Hopefully I'll be posting that soon.



Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: sarahluker on October 03, 2009, 06:47:42 PM
Goatdog, I drive a 2006 Explorer.  It has the roof rack but is not the best set up.  Where did you get the rack on the 505?  It looks like something we could use on the Explorer.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on October 03, 2009, 07:09:56 PM
I believe with all the interior mods, the roof rack, and now the hitch rack, that I have maxed out the cargo carrying capacity of 505.

Ya think? ? ? ? ? ? ?        ;D

And you didn't even leave room for the hidden top turret with the Dillon mini. One of the key problems with consumer-grade SUVs is the space and lack of serious carrying capacity.

With the closing of the Saturn plant in TN, I was actually hallucinating about having the Russkies bring this over and start production. Seats 7 and is amphibious. There is a speed limitation - something along the lines of 40 MPH max, but we can work on that.

(http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2009/06/medium_3595716690_777e31316e_o.jpg)

(http://jalopnik.com/assets/images/gallery/12/2009/06/medium_3594910219_208f3f950b_o.jpg)

http://jalopnik.com/5278887/aton+impulse-viking+2992-amphibious-apocalypse-bogger?autoplay=true (http://jalopnik.com/5278887/aton+impulse-viking+2992-amphibious-apocalypse-bogger?autoplay=true)

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 03, 2009, 07:11:18 PM
Hi Sarah
 It is a Yakima Load Warrior with the 20" extension. It was at bikeguyswarehouse.com for $199 and $99 for the extension, but it is now $249 and $120.

This one is trail tough. If you aren't inclined to do things with your Explorer that would put a lot of stress into your rack I would go far cheaper with many of the other brands. They look pretty good and they will stay on just fine for normal use.

This is one I like. It is on Ebay and I think I saw it for a little less a couple months ago, I just didn't search through all the ads.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ROOF-RACK-CARGO-CAR-TOP-LUGGAGE-CARRIER-BASKET-CARTOP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4837a5b921QQitemZ310171253025QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ROOF-RACK-CARGO-CAR-TOP-LUGGAGE-CARRIER-BASKET-CARTOP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem4837a5b921QQitemZ310171253025QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories)

Any of them should bolt right onto your existing rack but they all add some wind noise so be warned.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 03, 2009, 07:14:41 PM
One of the key problems with consumer-grade SUVs is the space and lack of serious carrying capacity.

I think I have all the room I need was what I meant. I can't imagine needing more for what 505 is intended for.

And that Russian thing...not a beauty contest winner. But that's an eye of the beholder thing I guess. ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: sarahluker on October 03, 2009, 07:27:05 PM
GD thanks for  the recommendation.  We had an Xcargo for years and it gave up the ghost a couple of years ago.  We have a cargo rack for the hitch but need more room to carry supplies.  The Explorer will be full of people and dogs.  It has the automatic seats for the 3rd row, so we can only take out the middle seats.  The next time we evacuate we will take my husbands car too.  We followed the "rules" of evacuation for Houston and left his truck.  Well it was a total loss when we came back.  He really regretted that decision. 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 03, 2009, 07:30:27 PM
Sorry to hear that. I hate when bad things happen to good people.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: buddha on October 05, 2009, 03:12:17 PM
Great build, GD.  Hoping to get a shell cap and build a drawer system for my F150 sometime.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 05, 2009, 03:15:18 PM
Great build, GD.  Hoping to get a shell cap and build a drawer system for my F150 sometime.

It's actually fun for me to do. I just like making stuff.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: sarahluker on October 05, 2009, 06:35:49 PM
You know I kind of feel funny when I mention the problems we've had with IKE because I don't want people to think I'm trying to garner sympathy.  On the other hand I want to talk about it to others to show how many mistakes we made and how we (or I) have learned from them.  We are doing great now due to a husband who works his butt off to support his family.  I just wish he would understand and join in the prepping I do.  I have enjoyed yours and others threads about BOB's and BOV"s as they are showing me what to do better next time.  So, Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 05, 2009, 06:41:02 PM
My wife didn't show any interest in prepping for some time, but one day on her way to the G-Store, out of the blue, she asked what food she should get to add to our long-term stash.

She hasn't let off yet.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Heavy G on October 06, 2009, 10:17:29 AM
(This thread has been selected as a “best of” thread by Heavy G.  You can search for “best of” threads by using that term in the search mode.  Everyone on the forum is encouraged to reply to a post they think is “best of” worthy so we can all search for them.  For more information on the “best of” thing, see http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=3423.0. (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=3423.0.))
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on October 06, 2009, 07:34:22 PM
My wife didn't show any interest in prepping for some time, but one day on her way to the G-Store, out of the blue, she asked what food she should get to add to our long-term stash.

She hasn't let off yet.

That's great!  It's always so much easier when your spouse is onboard.

My wife is  s l o w l y  coming along.  She now understands why it's smart to stock extra basics, "so I've got that going for me!"
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 11, 2009, 08:15:40 PM
I was listening to Jacks most recent BOV podcast and the back and forth about e-tool v. full-sized shovel came up in the next "Questions" podcast. This is a common discussion on forums dedicated to off-road expeditions. I think carrying both if room allows makes the most sense. But even in 505 I currently don't do that.

I carry the e-tool as opposed to a full sized shovel for one reason: My e-tool can be folded into a variety of shapes that allows me the clearance under my vehicle should I have to dig myself out. Sometimes you gotta reach up under there to move dirt and a full sized spade many times just won't fit. I have direct experience with digging out various vehicles and even though we had a complete set of pioneer tools we frequently had to pull out the simple e-tool to reach those tough spots.

I will be adding a full-set of pioneer tools to my FOB stash. That way if the primary mission of 505 becomes reality I can grab it and attach it to the roof rack.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Heavy G on October 13, 2009, 08:24:37 AM
Goatdog's Project 505 reminded me of this gem from my high school days, "Heading Out to the Highway" by Judas Priest:

Judas Priest - Heading out to the Highway (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC-ZmU29hg8#normal)

Yes, Project 505 has a theme song now.  Unless you guys think it sucks, and then it doesn't.

I don't have any knowledge on a BOV to share but I can suggest a theme song.  I'm here to help.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 13, 2009, 08:50:17 AM
But doesn't Judas Priest music make people kill themselves? :o
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 13, 2009, 09:08:13 AM
Actually, the most appropriate song I can think of is the "Be Prepared" song by the Goat in Hoodwinked. Very funny.

Hoodwinked! - Be Prepared Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcN39QxRFzc#normal)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Heavy G on October 13, 2009, 09:13:03 AM

Actually, the most appropriate song I can think of is the "Be Prepared" song by the Goat in Hoodwinked. Very funny.


I hereby withdraw Judas Priest from theme song contention and second the motion to nominate "Be Prepared."  Way better.

But, I will say this, if you're drinking cheap gin in high school then Judas Priest is a much better song.

OK, now back to the topic at hand: BOVs.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on October 13, 2009, 09:28:27 AM
Actually, the most appropriate song I can think of is the "Be Prepared" song by the Goat in Hoodwinked. Very funny.

Either way that should be your personal theme song.  hilarious and it couldn't be more perfect.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 13, 2009, 09:36:11 AM
Yep, that goats BOV is kind of spartan but I like the escape system.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on October 13, 2009, 09:22:21 PM
Yep, that goats BOV is kind of spartan but I like the escape system.

Y'all know he's drawing this up as we speak. It'll be the first BOV chute that has a Hawaiian print. I can't wait for the pix.

Did you notice how the video had the negative gal who actually came through in the end? How touching <<sniffs>> gives us all hope.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: CountryRootsCityJob on October 19, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Actually, the most appropriate song I can think of is the "Be Prepared" song by the Goat in Hoodwinked. Very funny.

Hoodwinked! - Be Prepared Song (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcN39QxRFzc#normal)

Okay, I know that if its not broke, don't fix it... but that was such a great song that almost seems like it should somehow be used in the podcast!  I'm not saying replace the intro and exiting music, as it almost seems like that would be wrong... but anywho, that was great!  

I am also looking forward to seeing pics of the Hawaiian parachute system on the 505 ;D

+1 for being prepared ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: liftsboxes on October 19, 2009, 09:57:23 AM
Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread, but have you noticed a big impact on your mileage?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on October 19, 2009, 09:15:53 PM
Post SHTF will definitely be "out of the box" and will require some out of the box thinking AND solutions for the modern survivalist.  My "air antenna" was originall conceived by me for SAR Command Post comm for remote mountainous terrain to enable a better signal coverage down in the valleys where we typically found ourselves without comm.  I tinkered with several different designs including a balloon hoisted reflector antenna that basically was "visible" to all from anywhere in the search area and would "reflect" a signal so that others could receive it.  It was marginally effective.

That was echostar, only in the air instead of space!

I bet it worked great with helicals or yagis.

The first communications satellite was an artificial moonbounce deal, called Echo. Bigass spherical mylar balloon in space.

PM me for further contact info, I think I have a solution that involves a bit of [opsec] for goat, but I designed a longer wavelength system like that for a buddy of mine while he was project manager for a mars mission. It involved using electricity and water ice instead of pressurized hydrogen or helium - on earth the same system would be water, since on mars the pressure and temperature is so low that it just kinda solidifies on its own, so we decided to roll with it.

Blade of Onions



Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on October 19, 2009, 09:31:02 PM
As far as the pioneer tools go, feel free to drop your axe and pick off at my place for a heat treat if you get the wooden variety, or just a good sharpening if you go high price like gerber/fiskars.

I'll try not to drool all over your truck while I'm whittling away at the blades!

Finally caught up, and it's awesome so far. Maybe not awesome like it's goign to morph into a battle mech and march you across the mountains, but definitely the hammer that hits the nail on the head.

+1

Cheers,
Orion
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on October 19, 2009, 10:25:31 PM
The first communications satellite was an artificial moonbounce deal, called Echo. Bigass spherical mylar balloon in space.

Blade of Onions

I remember seeing that thing when I was a kid. Went right over 2nd base at a night softball game.


<<hijack ends  :) >>
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on October 19, 2009, 11:34:46 PM
yep, that thing was several tens of feet across. IIRC, it was something like 50 or 100 feet in diameter, but it only weighed a few pounds.

Speaking of which, I think I have an FAA-compliant device that should fit into two soup cans and be fairly easy to use. ;-)

#include <opsec.h>
#include <stdio.h>

void main()
{
cout<<"hijack successful! We now return you to regularly scheduled programming";
};

Blade of the one who slayeth the Onion
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Skald on October 23, 2009, 08:45:26 AM
Not sure if you thought on how you would secure the M-1 Caribe there GB, but a friend on another board makes locks and designed this.   He's been working on it for a while and when I saw the final product thought of your 505 vehicle immediately since your planning on storing/mouting the m-1 carbine in there.

Again, not sure how, or even if, your going to secure it in the vehicle but thought I'd share with you.

SC-917-B Adjustable Wall/Trunk Lock (http://"http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=65939")

A couple of preview pics:

(http://230grain.com/images/articles/santa/truckmount1.jpg)

(http://230grain.com/images/articles/santa/sedan4.jpg)

And the 505 actually is giving me things to think about when I am able to put my vehicle together and hope to see some more updates.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on October 23, 2009, 10:40:23 AM
Skald - bad link in your post - can you update with a new post? Thanks.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: buddha on October 23, 2009, 11:39:49 AM
Skald - bad link in your post - can you update with a new post? Thanks.

try this:

http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=65939 (http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=65939)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Skald on October 23, 2009, 12:49:37 PM
Sorry about that, thought I had it set for use.  Thanks Buddha for saving my rump.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on October 23, 2009, 10:55:08 PM
Not sure if you thought on how you would secure the M-1 Caribe there GB, but a friend on another board makes locks and designed this.   He's been working on it for a while and when I saw the final product thought of your 505 vehicle immediately since your planning on storing/mouting the m-1 carbine in there.

Again, not sure how, or even if, your going to secure it in the vehicle but thought I'd share with you.

http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=65939 (http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=65939)

Very cool idea.  I'd get a Truck Vault for my Yukon, but I don't have a Yukon.  I have a little commuter car. :( So this is a very viable idea for me to keep a rifle in my car without worrying about it wandering off in a smash, lift (the handle for the trunk (which doesn't have a lock)) and grab. 

Thanks for posting this!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Kagetsu on October 24, 2009, 12:27:57 PM
Wow, this is a thread I'm going to have to return to, often. I have a Tacoma that I planned on filling with just this stuff. Never managed it but still want too. I worked for an alarm company and was installing in a cabin that took well after 1:00 am. The gate for the entry road was locked when we tried to leave. I had a hacksaw and quickly went through the lock system and we went home. Gate, lock and fence breaching tools are at the top of my tool list. As are all things that make commandeering possible.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on October 29, 2009, 10:21:48 AM
I forgot to toss it in my BOB picture set, but I have one of these:

http://www.tuffwerx.com/Public/Search/itemDetail.rails?ebayID=160363197196 (http://www.tuffwerx.com/Public/Search/itemDetail.rails?ebayID=160363197196)

Rather useless at the moment since I'm out of gas cylinders, but the nitrous oxide is the same stuff that's used in gourmet refillable whipped cream canisters. The butane canisters are also readily available, as this torch has become something of a cult icon with jewelers and hobby glass workers. I've welded everything from copper/brass/bronze to tool steel with it, and cut several chains upwards of 1/4 inch diamter.

I call it my hot hacksaw.

Great for a BOB, since it's a whopping 5" tall and the canisters are easy to stick in something like a shotgun shell holder and tuck in a pocket so they don't rattle around.

I got mine at radio shack about eight years ago for under 20 bucks, but the new manufacture units (not by archer anymore) are upwards of 60. Totally worth it if you need a tool that can melt the insides out of a lock in 30 seconds or less.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 01, 2009, 09:32:31 PM
Not sure if you thought on how you would secure the M-1 Caribe there GB, but a friend on another board makes locks and designed this.   He's been working on it for a while and when I saw the final product thought of your 505 vehicle immediately since your planning on storing/mouting the m-1 carbine in there.

Again, not sure how, or even if, your going to secure it in the vehicle but thought I'd share with you.

SC-917-B Adjustable Wall/Trunk Lock (http://"http://230grain.com/showthread.php?t=65939")

A couple of preview pics:

(http://230grain.com/images/articles/santa/truckmount1.jpg)

(http://230grain.com/images/articles/santa/sedan4.jpg)

And the 505 actually is giving me things to think about when I am able to put my vehicle together and hope to see some more updates.

Skald, I really like that. I modified a police cruiser shotgun mount for my M1 Carbine. It works well. I'd add pics but I really don't want to reveal my cleverly (I hope) hidden location for it. Suffice it to say that I can get to it quick and you'd have to know where the release button is if you wanted it for yourself.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 01, 2009, 09:35:48 PM
Maybe I missed this earlier in the thread, but have you noticed a big impact on your mileage?

According to the MPG calculator in the trip computer it says I am avaeraging .2 less miles-per-gallon than I was in July before I started. The removal of the rear seats took out a lot of weight. I have added that and a little more back in with my mods, but I can handle .2

The Load Warrior probalby hurts the MPG more than the weight does.

You do make me wish I'd weighed 505 before i started.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 01, 2009, 09:38:59 PM
I finally have received the performance rotors and ceramic pads that I ordered in October. When i go home on 18 Dec I will install them myself. 505 is still doing very well. I will take some pics soon of some of my more recent stuff.

Goatdog
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on December 02, 2009, 08:10:00 AM
sounds like the goatdog mobile is really taking shape.  when do you install the passenger ejector seats?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 02, 2009, 03:45:53 PM
sounds like the goatdog mobile is really taking shape.  when do you install the passenger ejector seats?

Don't really plan on having a passenger, nobody wants to ride with me. :(
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on December 02, 2009, 04:27:39 PM
road trip?  where we going? ;D  will i need beer or ammunition?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 02, 2009, 04:35:02 PM
road trip?  where we going? ;D  will i need beer or ammunition?

Both. I don't do stuff half-assed ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on December 02, 2009, 04:37:20 PM
if it's gonna be like that I'll bring tequila and some grenades too.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: liftsboxes on December 02, 2009, 05:37:27 PM
I'm in .... with jerky, bourbon, and a Mossberg 500 (I call shotgun)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on December 02, 2009, 05:45:40 PM
if it's gonna be like that I'll bring tequila and some grenades too.

What, you still have some grenades left after selling them to the Mexican drug gangs at the last gun show? Man, I am clean out!!


 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on December 02, 2009, 07:25:41 PM
Hey hey!
Sounds like a party!
Come by Ohio and pick me up!
We'll invade Canada!
I figure we could conquer it inside a week as long as we guarantee Quebec and Labrador sovereignty and don't get weighed down in the Yukon in tribal conflicts. That'd be stupid. Everyone knows you can't win in a mountain tribal guerrilla war.
 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on December 02, 2009, 10:17:50 PM
Skald, I really like that. I modified a police cruiser shotgun mount for my M1 Carbine. It works well. I'd add pics but I really don't want to reveal my cleverly (I hope) hidden location for it. Suffice it to say that I can get to it quick and you'd have to know where the release button is if you wanted it for yourself.

CAA stock?  Does the stock lock into the weapon mount somehow?  Looks like it's got kind of a wide claw grip on a portion of the stock.  Could just be the angle of the photo....  Hard to tell. 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on December 03, 2009, 02:57:37 AM
Hey hey!
Sounds like a party!
Come by Ohio and pick me up!
We'll invade Canada!
I figure we could conquer it inside a week as long as we guarantee Quebec and Labrador sovereignty and don't get weighed down in the Yukon in tribal conflicts. That'd be stupid. Everyone knows you can't win in a mountain tribal guerrilla war.
 ;D

You're forgetting the benefits of close air support.

To wit:

One of these: (http://www.ronin-ss.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fusionman-yves-rossy.jpg)

With a pair of these: (http://www.enemyforces.net/firearms/m249.jpg)

And a few of these: (http://uccwny.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/beer.jpg)

And one mustn't forget the spotters and forward observers:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3347/3475698943_de2f78e02a.jpg)

With that equipment I'm sure we can take the beaches! er... mountains!

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Heavy G on December 03, 2009, 02:55:12 PM
Um, guys ... topic is Goatdog's Project 505.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on December 03, 2009, 03:13:51 PM
Um, guys ... topic is Goatdog's Project 505.


Yea, G!
That's what we are using to invade Canada and take all they're women!
Oh.
Topic.
I mean, great BOV Goatie.
That's a nice... bumper.
 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on December 03, 2009, 04:26:25 PM
What do you think we're planning on towing the beer, bikini, and binocular trailer with?

More on topic, Goatdog, I found a setup that works better than AutoNet Mobile - I'm getting a Verizon MiFi (also available from other retailers and service providers) as well as a few single day or weekend usage cards. This gives me something like 5 gigabytes of bandwidth over the course of a day, and there's no monthly charge. The device is the size of about five credit cards stacked up, and only has one button - power on/off. It connects to the cellular 3G network, and tosses the signal back out as wi-fi out to about 30 feet or so.

In my vehicle/bugout situation, I'll have the card, and my bluetooth GPS module in my BOB. Turn 'em on, toss the bag in the back seat, and get moving. I then have access to GPS data AND the internet if needed, so I can use google maps on my PDA to reroute if I need to, or to relay messages that may not be able to go through via standard phone lines, or even a cellular network - data and voice are piggy backed, but not identical signal pathways. I've been able to send text messages when I couldn't get a call in or out on my cell.

Might be a good setup for you - It looks like I can get out the door for under 80 bucks (including the airtime cards).

Toodles,
Orion
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 03, 2009, 07:54:31 PM
What do you think we're planning on towing the beer, bikini, and binocular trailer with?

More on topic, Goatdog, I found a setup that works better than AutoNet Mobile - I'm getting a Verizon MiFi (also available from other retailers and service providers) as well as a few single day or weekend usage cards. This gives me something like 5 gigabytes of bandwidth over the course of a day, and there's no monthly charge. The device is the size of about five credit cards stacked up, and only has one button - power on/off. It connects to the cellular 3G network, and tosses the signal back out as wi-fi out to about 30 feet or so.

In my vehicle/bugout situation, I'll have the card, and my bluetooth GPS module in my BOB. Turn 'em on, toss the bag in the back seat, and get moving. I then have access to GPS data AND the internet if needed, so I can use google maps on my PDA to reroute if I need to, or to relay messages that may not be able to go through via standard phone lines, or even a cellular network - data and voice are piggy backed, but not identical signal pathways. I've been able to send text messages when I couldn't get a call in or out on my cell.

Might be a good setup for you - It looks like I can get out the door for under 80 bucks (including the airtime cards).

Toodles,
Orion

I'm ahead of you Rion. I have a Verizon card and use it in 505 on one of the newer notepads. It works great. I keep the notepad with my bugout gear but not inside 505 daily. Everything is bluetooth.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 03, 2009, 07:57:14 PM
Hey Guys
I know TSP has rules on hijacking but to be honest, on this thread, it's a free fire zone. I want to keep this one alive and you guys are making it happen. I have pics and more to add and maybe I'll actually get time to put them in there soon. Until then, the mindless banter and chatter is fine. Reminds me of being home with my mother-in-law ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on December 03, 2009, 08:01:58 PM
Hey Guys
I know TSP has rules on hijacking but to be honest, on this thread, it's a free fire zone. I want to keep this one alive and you guys are making it happen. I have pics and more to add and maybe I'll actually get time to put them in there soon. Until then, the mindless banter and chatter is fine. Reminds me of being home with my mother-in-law ;D

Speaking of thread drift, don't you owe us some writing too?





 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on December 03, 2009, 08:10:36 PM
OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC!!!!


You posted my real name!!!!!!

(and spelled it right... +1)

OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC.

Speaking of Opsec... aren't we supposed to do coffee and waffles here shortly?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 03, 2009, 08:13:01 PM
Speaking of thread drift, don't you owe us some writing too?





 ;D

I am hearing that all the time now. I have about 2000 you didn't read yet that is ready for posting and 3000 words that I still want to edit. I'd have even more but I just won a big chunk of .gov work and my income just skyrocketed (and I was already quite content), so I have to prioritize right now. I am debating posting it vs just emailing it as I was told by Jack that everything I post belongs to him. He promised not to act on that but what's mine is mine and I don't want to put him or myself into that position. Emailing it will be free of course.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 03, 2009, 08:16:08 PM
OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC!!!!


You posted my real name!!!!!!

(and spelled it right... +1)

OPSEC OPSEC OPSEC.

Speaking of Opsec... aren't we supposed to do coffee and waffles here shortly?

Actually you confirmed that. I have no problems telling the world my name as it is extremely easy to get anyones name anyway. Still, I apologize.

I just don't have any social time right now my friend. I work and make $. It is far better than the alternative.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on December 03, 2009, 08:17:43 PM
I'd have even more but I just won a big chunk of .gov work and my income just skyrocketed (and I was already quite content), so I have to prioritize right now.

I'm sure I can help you allocate your funding ;-)

While you're at it, sign me up for a copy of the Tome of GoatDog too!

As far as the opsec thing, I'm just messing with you.

Seriously.

Rion vs. Orion... *cough* yeah, THAT'S a leap...

:-p
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on December 03, 2009, 10:37:08 PM
Sign me up for the next chapter, also!  And as a participant in the "funds allocation club" if you get drunk and pull out your checkbook one night....  :)  Hey, I have some AR accessories to buy, ya know!!  We're doing charity for Christmas (trying to teach our oldest daughter the concept of "giving IS receiving" rather than just adding to her Barbie collection (although she's getting at least one more of those, too)) so I have to quietly self-fund my accessories.  It's sad, I know....   ::)

Seriously, if you need someone to edit the new chapters, I can work on it a bit.  I can fix all the "your, you're" and "they're their there" issues that always seem to creep in and spell-check doesn't catch (although a good grammar-checking program helps).   
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TexDaddy on December 03, 2009, 10:42:44 PM
...We'll invade Canada!
Operation Leaf Blower. :D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on December 04, 2009, 01:58:10 AM
Look out Canada here we come.

Can you say OPSEC?
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2375/johncandy.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/johncandy.jpg/)

My nieces already call me Uncle Buck.

On the way north stop on by here in MN for more bullets and beer.The bunker's always open.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: liftsboxes on December 04, 2009, 03:13:57 AM
Um, guys ... topic is Goatdog's Project 505.



Oh, I thought we were discussing a test bug out run where everything that could go wrong probably would.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: mamabear on December 04, 2009, 09:10:35 AM
Hey Goaty (and others), This question is not specifically related to your BOV, but I've said before I drive a mini-van. Yes I am that mom driving around in the mini-van. I do plan to get another vehicle in probably 18-24 months. If you were buying a new one, would you always get an SUV and 4-wheel drive? I had a full size chevy van before this mini van and loved it (loved Loved LOVED it), just not the gas hog part of it. I like the fuel efficiency of the mini van compared to the full size van, and I don't want to give up space and seating so I would want a larger SUV. So the question after all this rambling is mostly do I fork over the extra cash for 4-wheel drive SUV or just stick with another mini-van?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on December 04, 2009, 09:36:28 AM
I am hearing that all the time now. I have about 2000 you didn't read yet that is ready for posting and 3000 words that I still want to edit. I'd have even more but I just won a big chunk of .gov work and my income just skyrocketed (and I was already quite content), so I have to prioritize right now. I am debating posting it vs just emailing it as I was told by Jack that everything I post belongs to him. He promised not to act on that but what's mine is mine and I don't want to put him or myself into that position. Emailing it will be free of course.

BTW, I'm just yanking your chain! I know (you say) you're busy!   ;D

As for the ownership rights, that lack of personal ownership must come as a complete surprise to Joel who is selling his Songs story as he posts it here. If you are emailing it, I will take a copy too.

BTTT - your postings have me thinking about using my diesel F350 after all, even though I have no use for it at the moment. Being unemployed, I have no money to trick it out, but I think I can do a few things with materials on hand. Hmmm . . . . .

Of course, it is currently 12 degrees outside, and it's too tall to fit in this garage.  >:(
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on December 04, 2009, 05:02:48 PM
@ GoatDog: For the Intellectual Property rights thing - why not just set up a Blogger account, post it there, and link to it in a post here, or your signature line? Copyright ownership stems from the initial publishing, and putting it on your own blog first establishes that for you. Any excerpts posted here would be ostensibly available for Jack's usage, but he would retain no rights to it to inhibit your later publishing. Also, there would be some legal ramifications if he were to try and publish the whole shebang, and as a relatively new forum/blog/podcast/etc. I'm sure he realizes he'd be wise to not publish without your authorization and full agreement. Otherwise your legal position could sink the crap out of the entire site here. Been there, done that, to an extent (lost my design, but learned the lesson well). You could also set permissions as such that only those people you give a login could view that particular blog post for your chapters. Pretty nifty little system if you have time to play with all the settings. You have my number if you have questions getting it started.

@MamaBear: How long have you driven a minivan in your climate? Have you ever run into a situation where you needed to go off road (which most SUV's can't do much of anyhow) or ford high water/snow/ice, and couldn't because you were in a minivan?

If more than once in the past five years or so you've wished you had more truck, I'd get more of a truck. Also, check out the Santa Fe by Hyundai - not huge, but plenty of cargo space, and fairly good in the water/ice/snow/etc. - 32 mpg, and 900 bucks total maintenence since I bought it in 2004. 70,000 miles so far.

I'd keep my mind open between 4WD and AWD - mine is real-time AWD - three diffs, and it's normally a front drive dominant, to the tune of 70/30 IIRC, but when the rears start slipping, it evens out the torque distribution to 30/70 or more, as needed. One note - new spark plugs will cost you 400 bucks, since they're under the intake manifold - transverse mounted V6, ~200 HP.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Castle6 on December 04, 2009, 07:38:48 PM
@ GoatDog: For the Intellectual Property rights thing - why not just set up a Blogger account, post it there, and link to it in a post here, or your signature line? Copyright ownership stems from the initial publishing, and putting it on your own blog first establishes that for you. Any excerpts posted here would be ostensibly available for Jack's usage, but he would retain no rights to it to inhibit your later publishing. Also, there would be some legal ramifications if he were to try and publish the whole shebang, and as a relatively new forum/blog/podcast/etc. I'm sure he realizes he'd be wise to not publish without your authorization and full agreement. Otherwise your legal position could sink the crap out of the entire site here. Been there, done that, to an extent (lost my design, but learned the lesson well). You could also set permissions as such that only those people you give a login could view that particular blog post for your chapters. Pretty nifty little system if you have time to play with all the settings. You have my number if you have questions getting it started.

Good idea.  Still gets posted here, GD retains ownership, Jack still gets the readership, we get to read more of it, wins all around.  +1
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 05, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
Like I said, I have no reason to think Jack would do anything nefarious with his rights to Steele Resolve. He said as much. I just don't want anyone else to have rights period. It's mine, I prefer to keep it that way. I will make sure there is a way for all TSP folk to get it free.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 05, 2009, 05:19:02 PM
Hey Goaty (and others), This question is not specifically related to your BOV, but I've said before I drive a mini-van. Yes I am that mom driving around in the mini-van. I do plan to get another vehicle in probably 18-24 months. If you were buying a new one, would you always get an SUV and 4-wheel drive? I had a full size chevy van before this mini van and loved it (loved Loved LOVED it), just not the gas hog part of it. I like the fuel efficiency of the mini van compared to the full size van, and I don't want to give up space and seating so I would want a larger SUV. So the question after all this rambling is mostly do I fork over the extra cash for 4-wheel drive SUV or just stick with another mini-van?

Hi Mamabear!

I would stick with the minivan. It is the most practical vehicle for most situations.

I have a fleet of vehicles and yes my gas guzzling SUV's may piss off the world. So be it. As an American, I still believe I can drive one if I want to. This is why my wife drives one. Prior to buying the 505 five years ago, new with cash, my wife had a decent minivan. It served the family well but when it came time to get another she fell in love with the 4Runner. I bought it for her as a gift while I was working in Iraq. When I stole 505 from her after five years, I bought her a Sequoia, again not as practical as a minivan, but it is what SHE wanted. I find that keeping her happy is job #1.

Still, if you have no issues with driving a minivan then you should stay with that platform. If you feel the need to go off-road and rockcrawl, then the minivan may not be the best choice.

BTW, I now only buy slightly used vehicles (only Toyota products too). I feel that the Toyota product will be uber-reliable and the savings over buying new is huge. I buy things the Dave Ramsey way only. In the end, its just a car. And that's coming from a car nut that has owned over 75 vehicles since he was a kid.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bubtech on December 06, 2009, 09:50:07 AM
The minivan has WAY more space than most SUV's... I have an Envoy XL (the stretched version) with the 3rd row seat... when using the 3rd row seat there is exactly 18" of cargo space, and that 3rd row sucks too.  I WISH I had a minivan with AWD or 4wd (for the snow) over this Envoy any day.  Wife wouldn't be caught dead in a minivan though, so some convincing is needed.
B
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on December 06, 2009, 04:56:03 PM
We did the minivan thing for almost 20 years; they're about as useful a vehicle as ever created. After time, though, their mileage dropped from the low 20s down into the teens, which really sucked. With our gang and all their buddies, we moved up to a full size E-350[12 passenger]. It will haul just about anything, or anyone and the mileage isn't all that awful. The biggest drawback other than about 3 or 4 mpg less than the minivan, is the RWD, which really stinks in the snow. If we have a whole bunch going somewhere together, it is cheaper to pile in, and leave a vehicle home. 1 van @ 14/18 mpg vs 2 minivans @ 18/22mpg. After 75k, the only times it's seen the garage is for brakes, tires, and to have one switch fixed. It also has a towing capacity which leaves the minivan in the dust.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on December 06, 2009, 05:11:41 PM
We had one of the first Plymouth Voyagers way back when - loved it, actually superb handling (size of a billboard but stable in the wind and rain). Troubled by lack of rear storage when 3rd seat was in - of course they solved that a year or 2 later with the "Grand" whatever which gave you lots more rear storage.

Also, it turned out to have the really crappy Mitsubishi 2L engine and drive train, all of which was replaced (at least once) in the years I owned it. Ex wife got it with 90k on it when we went ex, and ran it into the ground - it was worth enough to cover the tow IIRC.

BTW, the E350 is the van equivalent of my F350, and yes, they haul lots of stuff. Had no problem hauling loaded cattle trailers, other than when the cows bounced around, so did the pickup. IIRC the towing capacity of the Voyager was 1200 pounds, but that was late 80's.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dudekrtr on December 06, 2009, 08:22:44 PM
We found the trick with the old Voyagers was to look for one with 80-100k on it. They wouldn't last that long, so, the majority of repairs had almost all been done already, and you could get a cheapo that would last 2 or 3 years with hardly any maintenance. Ah, the good old days.  :( Gimme a slant 6 or a 318, or a small block chevy. I know they're not quite up to Goatie's standards for today, though.  ::)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on December 06, 2009, 08:59:01 PM
We found the trick with the old Voyagers was to look for one with 80-100k on it. They wouldn't last that long, so, the majority of repairs had almost all been done already, and you could get a cheapo that would last 2 or 3 years with hardly any maintenance. Ah, the good old days.  :( Gimme a slant 6 or a 318, or a small block chevy. I know they're not quite up to Goatie's standards for today, though.  ::)

I'll always have a soft spot for the Chevy small block. I've had at least 10 of thm since the 70's. Never found the Chevy engine to be unreliable, just a lot of other stuff GM builds around it.

Minivans are by far the most practical of vehicles. I wish they were sexier.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on December 07, 2009, 12:40:14 AM
Has anyone thought about putting a gasifier on your vehicle? I'm thinking about doing it for my ATV project - seems like I could scale it up just a bit for you BOV and you'd have a backup fuel source independent of power/etc. I'm thinking I could build a car-sized gasifier in the space of a typical 5 gal gas tank.

*pondes*

Maybe even electronic ignition... with propane for a starter... Anyhow, we'll see how it works on the briggs engine first
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: mamabear on December 07, 2009, 07:43:37 AM
Minivans are by far the most practical of vehicles. I wish they were sexier.
I think it all depends on just who is behind the wheel!  ;)

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I currently have a Plymouth Voyager (1996) and like it all right. It had about 147,000 miles at the end of summer when I got it. Somewhere around 161,000 now. I have not had any real problems. It is kinda small for a minivan though. I took out the middle seat to give us room for legs and junk and a little room behind the back seat for those things we don't really need frequently. Seems to be working okay right now.
Orion, thanks for the reply. AWD or 4WD in a minivan was not something I had given thought to. Mostly I would just like it for the snow and bad roads when making my trips, although I hope like hell that when I am ready for a new car I am not making them anymore. No off-roading for me. Just winter snow and ice on roads.

BTW, when I say "new" I always mean "new-to-me". I bought a brand spankin new truck once and the payments were awful and I could not sell the thing. And Goaty, count me in on the reading of the book.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on January 03, 2010, 06:06:38 PM
Added new dimpled rotors to 505 and a ceramic pad upgrade. Did the work myself but it took too long, mainly because the sun goes down so early in late December. Bleeding was harder than it used to be on older cars, did use synthetic brake fluid. Did another Mobil 1 change on the engine oil but added Lucas Synthetic.

Planning on an early March 3/2" lift with Spidertrax wheel spacers and and new rubber. Maybe Nitto's but damn if Michelin hasn't been the best tire I've ever had.

Back in VA and very busy the next few weeks. 505 begs for more upgrades and I think of her everyday.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 04, 2010, 03:56:02 PM
Welcome back!

I still has waffles  ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on January 05, 2010, 12:39:36 AM
Maybe Nitto's but damn if Michelin hasn't been the best tire I've ever had.

I know there may be an argument from some, but you will be hard pressed to find a better tire than the Michelin.

Looking forward to what 2010 brings for the 505.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on January 05, 2010, 07:53:47 PM
Yeah Bartsdad, these Michelins have over 47,000 miles and still have 20k of tread left in them. i am only replacing them because they are over five years old and I know what happens as tires break down, though I've seen no signs of that yet.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on January 06, 2010, 06:22:48 AM
You can always use the old ones to raise potatoes  ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: spartan on January 06, 2010, 09:32:04 AM
Orion, thanks for the reply. AWD or 4WD in a minivan was not something I had given thought to. Mostly I would just like it for the snow and bad roads when making my trips, although I hope like hell that when I am ready for a new car I am not making them anymore. No off-roading for me. Just winter snow and ice on roads.


Not to take away from Goatdog's overall thread, but with an AWD mini-van check to see if it includes a spare tire.  In the case of the Toyota Sienna the AWD system leaves no place to mount one so instead you get run-flat tires.  The Sienna AWD is also reported to consume tires quicker than the FWD version.  Around here not having a spare is a no go.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on January 25, 2010, 06:53:13 PM
   Goatdog I think you need a cable cutter(Tactical wire strike system) like on helicopters (Orion could probably fashion one up). In case someone try's the old cable across the road trick at neck height. You should mount it on the front windshield frame. Here is a link on them.http://www.helicoptersmagazine.com/content/view/1913/38/ (http://www.helicoptersmagazine.com/content/view/1913/38/)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 26, 2010, 01:50:13 AM
I sure as shit could!

I'd base the action on an automatic center punch, though, so it would cut the cable faster without imparting so much momentum on the vehicle. There's also another option:

A similar boom arrangement, but two of them, holding closely spaced electrodes connected to a large capacitor. The cable hits the booms, shifts down to the electrode, and WHAM, you get a few million amps for a fraction of a second and the cable melts/disintegrates due to ohmic heating and lorentz forces exploding the wire.

Same idea as an exploding bridge-wire detonator, only a hell of a lot bigger.



I'd stick to the relatively low moving parts count on a static blade or a punch-assist shear. Either way, even if the punch mechanism fails, you still have two laterally locked shear blades contacting the cable.

AWESOME find.

Maybe he should mount some super strength magnets to the front bumper ahead of the tires to pick up sharp metallic debris? I'm sure we could fashion something that allowed it to easily clear obstacles but maintained it in close proximity to the ground. Magnetic mud flaps!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on January 26, 2010, 07:12:17 PM
We had wirecutters on the old M151 Army Jeeps. Never were needed once in my experience. Something like that would only add to my profile. I did see them do what they were supposed to on an OH-58C in 1985. I wasn't in that particular bird, I was in an older Alpha model about three clicks away, but when we heard the call we buzzed over and saw the reults. The crew was fine and the power line wasn't.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on January 26, 2010, 09:16:19 PM
  They had a kid get killed here on a quad with a cable across the road. Another guy had his throat sliced up pretty good from barbed wire across the road. Couldn't you disguise it to look like part of a roof rack?
   Orion I'm gonna have to figure out something for you to build you have some serious sounding skills!!!!
PS what you gonna weld with the new TIG machine? WOW "gonna" is in the spell checker...lol
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on January 26, 2010, 09:23:59 PM
  They had a kid get killed here on a quad with a cable across the road. Another guy had his throat sliced up pretty good from barbed wire across the road. Couldn't you disguise it to look like part of a roof rack?
   Orion I'm gonna have to figure out something for you to build you have some serious sounding skills!!!!
PS what you gonna weld with the new TIG machine? WOW "gonna" is in the spell checker...lol

It would have to extend below the bumper and above the roof rack to be effective. Since I have no plans to remove my windshield or "A" pillars, I don't worry about decapitation much. We rode motorcycles as scouts in the Army and it just was something you thought about when blacked out but it didn't stop us. Too much fun.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 27, 2010, 02:33:28 AM
@ goatdog:

Forget the shears/cutters - gimme a few hours with a couple dozen feet of 3" diameter borosilicate glass tubing, a few first surface mirrors, silicon exit aperture, and a couple of liquid cooled diffraction gratings, and we can tuck two 1KW infrared lasers up under your running boards.

*tee hee*

@ Beetle:

It's not so much that I have skills, it's that I haven't ever run into something that I wasn't able to do, except for things that actually violated the laws of physics. I have alot of confidence, but it's tempered with realism and a knack for finding out how to do things I haven't yet done. Makes life tons of fun, and a whole lot less scary, but you get weird looks when you ace the cooling ducts section in a ground vehicle aerodynamics class, and you're the only Biology major in the room.

Man I piss off engineers sometimes.

I also flapped my arms alot as a kid.


 ::)

As far as the welder - a shit ton of stuff. Right now I've got a bed frame to put together for my mom - no rails, just the solid brass and cast iron ends. 5 bucks at a thrift store, plus about 20 for the angle iron.

The second project is to do a bit of tweaking to my slide to repair a little divotbehind the breech area in the middle of the rear cocking serrations. I'll be drilling out the affected area (about 3/16" dia, by about 1/16" deep)

I just need to weld in a teensy bit of material - should take about a quarter second to build up that much filler rod - and then I'm setting a sterling silver medallion on either side, about the same spot, and one will be a D-Day commemorative round, and the other my forge and foundry logo.

I also have an all steel splitting maul that I intend to repair for my dad, so I'll have a bit of refreshment of my skills in going from medium to light to really ungodly heavy TIG welding. I'll post pics of my amazing stack-of-dimes beads for you guys.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Beetle on January 27, 2010, 05:24:59 AM
@ goatdog:

Forget the shears/cutters - gimme a few hours with a couple dozen feet of 3" diameter borosilicate glass tubing, a few first surface mirrors, silicon exit aperture, and a couple of liquid cooled diffraction gratings, and we can tuck two 1KW infrared lasers up under your running boards.

*tee hee*

@ Beetle:

It's not so much that I have skills, it's that I haven't ever run into something that I wasn't able to do, except for things that actually violated the laws of physics. I have alot of confidence, but it's tempered with realism and a knack for finding out how to do things I haven't yet done. Makes life tons of fun, and a whole lot less scary, but you get weird looks when you ace the cooling ducts section in a ground vehicle aerodynamics class, and you're the only Biology major in the room.

Man I piss off engineers sometimes.

I also flapped my arms alot as a kid.


 ::)

As far as the welder - a shit ton of stuff. Right now I've got a bed frame to put together for my mom - no rails, just the solid brass and cast iron ends. 5 bucks at a thrift store, plus about 20 for the angle iron.

The second project is to do a bit of tweaking to my slide to repair a little divotbehind the breech area in the middle of the rear cocking serrations. I'll be drilling out the affected area (about 3/16" dia, by about 1/16" deep)

I just need to weld in a teensy bit of material - should take about a quarter second to build up that much filler rod - and then I'm setting a sterling silver medallion on either side, about the same spot, and one will be a D-Day commemorative round, and the other my forge and foundry logo.

I also have an all steel splitting maul that I intend to repair for my dad, so I'll have a bit of refreshment of my skills in going from medium to light to really ungodly heavy TIG welding. I'll post pics of my amazing stack-of-dimes beads for you guys.
God help us if N. Korea ever got a hold of you!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 27, 2010, 10:09:59 AM
Nah, god help N. Korea if they ever get hold of me.

"And Lo, from the East shall come a White Devil bearing trinkets and baubles, and thou shalt thinkest thou hath found thine salvation..."

That's not a half bad idea. I should talk to the CIA or something and see if they want to plant me over there as an "expatriated" engineer. I might make some aesthetic improvements before I completely sabotage their nuke program. I mean, really, who names even a remotely phallic rocket the "dong".

I can imagine Kim Jong Il talking to a 1-900 number late at night...

Hey baby, what taepodong you got?

I got Nodongs, what about you?

*facepalm*

Although, with my engineering prowess and charming good looks, it'd be hard not to appoint myself emperor after the coup, and deport all the men. I can see my coronation now:

All hail Emperor Orion MegaDong, supreme ruler of Earth and all her colonies...

:-p


Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on January 27, 2010, 12:24:47 PM
Nah, god help N. Korea if they ever get hold of me.

"And Lo, from the East shall come a White Devil bearing trinkets and baubles, and thou shalt thinkest thou hath found thine salvation..."

That's not a half bad idea. I should talk to the CIA or something and see if they want to plant me over there as an "expatriated" engineer. I might make some aesthetic improvements before I completely sabotage their nuke program. I mean, really, who names even a remotely phallic rocket the "dong".

I can imagine Kim Jong Il talking to a 1-900 number late at night...

Hey baby, what taepodong you got?

I got Nodongs, what about you?

*facepalm*

Although, with my engineering prowess and charming good looks, it'd be hard not to appoint myself emperor after the coup, and deport all the men. I can see my coronation now:

All hail Emperor Orion MegaDong, supreme ruler of Earth and all her colonies...

:-p

Take your Ritalin, Garth!!!


 ;)

BTTT - so have you had any time to do anything with the 505, Goatie? ? ? ?

someone had to do it . . .
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 27, 2010, 01:12:52 PM
Sorry Wayne, got a little carried away.

Where's Bill and Ted been, anyway?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on January 27, 2010, 06:30:25 PM
Yep, I've done a little to 505. Mostly maintenance stuff and a serious upgrade to the brakes. I need to take pics, I know.

Around March, the lift and spidertrax go in.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: CountryRootsCityJob on January 29, 2010, 06:29:17 AM
Nah, god help N. Korea if they ever get hold of me.

"And Lo, from the East shall come a White Devil bearing trinkets and baubles, and thou shalt thinkest thou hath found thine salvation..."

...Although, with my engineering prowess and charming good looks, it'd be hard not to appoint myself emperor after the coup, and deport all the men. I can see my coronation now:

All hail Emperor Orion MegaDong, supreme ruler of Earth and all her colonies...

:-p

Off topic, I know... I'm sorry, but...

Bahahahaha....  ;D  I'm still laughing... that's funny!  Why, well maybe it has something to do with being an enginerd, I dunno.  But a tig welder, now I'm jealous!  (Actually I was jealous of your grade in the aerodynamics class as well.)

+2 from me :)

~CRCJ
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 29, 2010, 09:17:24 AM
Thanks! Glad to know i put a smile on someone's face ;-)

Tig: only problem is it's a 220V model, so it's a bit of a PITA to get a mobile unit up and running. If goaty needs welding done, he'll have to bring the project here, or have a 220 outlet at his place.

I have yet to fire it up - still have to get the argon regulator on the way home from work today.

@ GoatDog: If you don't get some photos up soon, I might just have to practice some tradecraft and get some of my own... :-p
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on January 29, 2010, 04:12:11 PM
Good luck with that. You'd have to get inside 505 and that wouldn't be a healthy choice.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on January 29, 2010, 06:02:11 PM
Good luck with that. You'd have to get inside 505 and that wouldn't be a healthy choice.

Nah, I wouldn't need to get inside, I'd send my Nazi flouride illuminati jew nanotech robots through the A/C ducts to take the pictures.

Or I'll just wait for you to bring it to the range next time you have a free moment. Might want to wax it first, wouldn't want to ruin the paint with saliva.

*drool*
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: nafterize on February 09, 2010, 08:17:38 PM
Nah, I wouldn't need to get inside, I'd send my Nazi flouride illuminati jew nanotech robots through the A/C ducts to take the pictures.

That reminds me of an exchange from Super Troopers:

Thorny: What are you going to do with ten million dollars, and you can't say buy the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Farva: I'd buy a ten million dollar car.
Thorny: That's a good investment but I'd still pull you over.
Farva: Bull Shit. You couldn't pull me over, and even if you did I'd activate my car's wings and I'd fly away.
Title: Lift, Spidertrax, Nitto Terra Grapplers, Oregon 400T, and a CB
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 04, 2010, 08:45:04 PM
I haven't posted on Project 505 for a while, but I never ignored her. Just been busy and will be for the foreseeable future. I'm self-employed and the work bug has struck me hard. I am enjoying the hell out of work and took on a lot since October or so. This is padding my retirement, so maybe it'll be worth it. I did make some time for the family recently and have some scheduled in the coming months, but TSP time has been minimal.

Okay, on to my truck. I added a 3" front and 2" rear Cornfed lift. They are just spacers because my shocks are just fine, coils too. Jim's Off-Road in Oak Ridge put them on for me because I was on a tight schedule. They are pretty simple, but time consuming, to install. I also had 1.25" Spidertrax wheel spacers added. Then I drove down to Thompson Tire for an alignment and four new Nitto Terra Grappler 265/70/17. That puts me just under 33" for tires. My pumpkin (the lowest point on 505) is over 10" off the ground.
I prevented any rubbing issues by moving the inner fenderwells forward by an inch or so and cutting the fender slightly with a Dremel. Can't tell that has been done unless you look for it.

Driving on the highway has been just the same as those wonderful Michelin Cross Terrains that lasted 52K. They are pretty damn quiet, which was a concern. They are well balanced too, no wheel hop or shimmy whatsoever. They look good IMHO too. The reason I didn't get the Michelins again was because they are all-season and I wanted all-terrain, to help with the beach driving I do and the damn snowstorms that I keep catching (I drove most of the 505 miles on Dec 18th in a total snowstorm...took me 19 hours, but we did it). Michelin does make the LTX AT/2 all-terrain but most Toyota forums recommended the Nittos. Earlier in the year I put some new rotors from Brake Performance on 505 with some ceramic pads. The rotors are dimpled and slotted, black in color, and look pretty good. More importantly they stop really well and the ceramics have minimized the brake dust. I did them myself and bleeding them turned out to be harder than anything else. So my wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension are good to go now.

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1112/img6687v.jpg)
This is 1/4 mile from my Yorktown cottage. It is at the Moore House, where Cornwallis' Army surrendered to Washington.

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5890/img6686m.jpg)

(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4069/img6684w.jpg)
The 3 inches in the front and two in the rear made her sit evenly, I didn't love the factory rake they come with.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3215/img6688y.jpg)

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6094/img6701r.jpg)
Here the inner fender has been moved forward. The other side was pretty much done the same.

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5563/img6702o.jpg)
I drilled new holes in the lower plastic fenders to keep the inner fenderwells forward. I learned this from a Toyota forum.




Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 04, 2010, 08:53:19 PM
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/6513/img6694w.jpg)
The Nitto's

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9690/img6693j.jpg)

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5364/img6673r.jpg)
I added a Cobra CB, a K30 Antenna, and an external speaker. Did the SWR thing and she is tuned pretty good.

(http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/4750/img6671m.jpg)

(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/6627/img6696ta.jpg)

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7803/img6697o.jpg)
Sorry about the bad pic. The K30 is something I highly recommend if you can handle 36" of antenna. The best ones are 5 foot and more, but I just don't think that would last long on 505. I still intend to get a Yaesu 7900 dual band Ham setup.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on April 04, 2010, 08:58:52 PM
Lookin good buddy!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 04, 2010, 09:10:57 PM
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8461/commandcenter.jpg)

I added my Garmin Oregon 400T touchscreen GPS to the cockpit of 505. I know the in-dash Kenwood has a built in Garmin and I use it daily. With this setup I use the many features of the Oregon to supplement what the in-dash is doing for me. For instance, I have 289 Civil War waypoints and over 300+ Geocaches. I bluetoothed the ones in the Oregon to the in-dash Garmin. I now use the in-dash to get close to my intended Geocache/History Site and then I dismount with the Oregon to get right on top of it. The Oregon holds pics, clues, etcs from Geocaching.com and it has made Geocaching a breeze. The Oregon has a TOPO map of the entire U.S. installed and it is great. This is my favorite setup.

In my bugout bags and H gear I still have a really nice Garmin 276C and a couple color Etrex Vista C's, all pre-loaded with what I need.

I've done a lot more (K&N, rear fog lights, camera mods, etc) but will have to post those after i take pics.

505 is becoming quite the addiction.

Goatdog out!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on April 04, 2010, 11:06:03 PM
Very nice.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Heavy G on April 05, 2010, 08:27:33 AM
If I were a carjacker in Knoxville, TN, and knew that KPD was the Knoxville police, I would not choose this car to carjack:

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3215/img6688y.jpg)

The Blackwater, Army, and NRA decals would also be clues to maybe try carjacking another car, like this:

(http://www.strike-the-root.com/52/herman/Oregon_Bumper_stickers.jpg)

OK, sorry for a possible thread detour.  Now back to Goatdog's bad ass rig.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 05, 2010, 12:33:07 PM
Holy CRAP!

Whenever all hell stops breaking loose, swing by and kidnap me.

Just give me a call first so I can bring a towel. Wouldn't want to drool all over your gear!!!

Heads up: a bud of mine is running for congress, and this coming friday is the business meeting for the gun club we talked about - if you're free in the evening, feel free to drop in after 7-ish and show off. I think we're doing coffee and donuts, and he's speaking to the membership about his Libertarian platform. If I estimate right it's only about 5 mins from where you took the photos in Y-town.

Anyhoo, keep kicking ass man, I'm not at all surprised you made that long snowy drive in one piece!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 05, 2010, 06:11:04 PM
Heavy G, where did you get a pic of my wife's car?    :D

Orion, I appreciate the offer. It sounds like something I might do, but I have a roadtrip to make this week.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: CGFxColoneill on April 05, 2010, 09:56:44 PM

Just give me a call first so I can bring a towel. Wouldn't want to drool all over your gear!!!

not the only use for a towel according to Doglas Adams :P

the setup keeps getting better goatdog
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 06, 2010, 11:41:42 AM
Heavy G, where did you get a pic of my wife's car?    :D

Orion, I appreciate the offer. It sounds like something I might do, but I have a roadtrip to make this week.

*drools*

No sweat. I may have to come kidnap you in a week or two. Met a girl that's never shot a gun before, but wants to... name the caliber, and I'll bring the ammo.

Enjoy the trip!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on April 07, 2010, 05:53:23 PM
OMG you are a geocacher!!!!  I'm looking to get into geocaching post haste.  Do you suggest the oregon or something else?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 07, 2010, 08:37:26 PM
OMG you are a geocacher!!!!  I'm looking to get into geocaching post haste.  Do you suggest the oregon or something else?

Hi Sis!
Sorry I haven't chatted with you and TW in a while. I'm still alive and miss our conversations.

The Oregon 400T is, IMHO, the best handheld currently available for my needs. There are lesser Oregons (and Colorados, Dakotas, etc). You want the 400T if topographic maps (the entire U.S.) are important. You'll like the bluetooth...makes transferring WPTS really easy. It also has a ton of other features. One of my favorite features is how the screen adjusts to the available light automatically. I can read it in the brightest sun and the darkest night.

There is a 550T, which adds a camera, but I couldn't justify the extra $150 or so for a 3.2 megapixel camera. It does geotag the exact location you took the pic at. I could see some professions or hobbies finding that pretty useful.

There are other handhelds (RINO) that have GMRS radios. Again, not something I could use, but I can see some value in that.

The 400T recently nosedived in price to around $325 or so. They were hard to find under $499 a few months ago.

Let me know if you start geocaching. I emplaced my first one when Raven was 7 months old. A couple weeks ago I took her, now 7 1/2, to let her find it. We found four that day. It can be addictive.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on April 07, 2010, 09:04:35 PM
Hey Goaty - I miss you too.  I understand that you're busy with things far more important than chit chatting though.  :)

I haven't geocached yet, but I really want to.  The only problem is that I don't have a lot of friends who are into hiking.  Actually, I don't have any friends who are into hiking.  My mom is about as close as it gets, and she works full time and goes to school full time like me.  Trying to get our schedules to mesh is damn near impossible.

And I'm not allowed to go out into the woods solo.  Too "dangerous"  :-\ especially since we can't carry a weapon here in California to protect ourselves.

I have the money for a GPS right now, but I can't decide if it'd be worth it for me to buy one, since I can't seem to find anybody who wants to go with me.

I hate being the only woman in southern california who is capable and interested in going outside.  ::)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 09, 2010, 11:51:24 PM
I love geocaching Sis. I hope that you find a way to join this hobby. I'll get my ham license if you get a GPS.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on April 10, 2010, 12:57:21 PM
I love geocaching Sis. I hope that you find a way to join this hobby. I'll get my ham license if you get a GPS.

Gah!  You're supposed to get your ham license anyway!  Tricksie goat.  :D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 11, 2010, 09:25:55 AM
Gah!  You're supposed to get your ham license anyway!  Tricksie goat.  :D
Damn!

I am looking for a good deal on a Yaesu with the detachable face. With that I may be able to conceal it in plain sight in 505.

I'm more freaked out by getting a proper HAM antenna for 505 that isn't 21' tall
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on April 11, 2010, 02:31:07 PM
Dual-band antennas are really, really short, hon.  Like maybe 20" tall, or so.  Check out Diamond's dualband antennas here: http://www.rfparts.com/diamond/Product_Catalog/mobile.html (http://www.rfparts.com/diamond/Product_Catalog/mobile.html) (scroll down to dual band).  As long 2 meters is one of the bands, you're good.  :)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 11, 2010, 03:56:39 PM
Damn!

I am looking for a good deal on a Yaesu with the detachable face. With that I may be able to conceal it in plain sight in 505.

I'm more freaked out by getting a proper HAM antenna for 505 that isn't 21' tall

Have you thought about patch antennae like what's used on UAV's and missiles and the like?

It's basically a capacitive antenna that mimics a wire, but it's a flat plate. I could etch you one quite easily, I'd just have to know what bands you wanted it on, and it might take me a few evenings with some math. Probbably 5 or 10 bucks worth of copper clad PC board (might have it on hand already) and I've already got the FeCl etchant.

might be worth a shot, since depending on the height of your vehicle, your rig is completely hidden since it's flat to the roof, and there's virtually no drag, since it's only about 5mm thick by the time you spray it with epoxy or whatever weatherproofing you pick.

Anyhoo, check 'em out!

http://www.rc-cam.com/gp_patch.htm (http://www.rc-cam.com/gp_patch.htm)

http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/diy-patch-antenna (http://diydrones.com/forum/topics/diy-patch-antenna)

;-)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 11, 2010, 08:37:24 PM
Thanks Orion, but i'm gonna stay conventional. I already have one unconventional form of comms to call home with, just want something easy to mount and tune.

Spent the past two days adding a whole lot of wiring for my smart solenoid from Sure Power for a really advanced dual battery setup. Prevents drain on either battery since it is bi-directional but it'll allow me to bypass the isolator to run a winch. Having issues with a ground for my rear fogs too, but i'll figure it out.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 12, 2010, 02:27:22 AM
Understand the KISS principle all too well. I may have some 1" copper braid around here somewhere. Might be overkill for the amps those lights are pulling though!

Patches are cool, but if something off the shelf works... Do it!

My tracker is all fabric on the roof, so I can get real creative with antenna mounting. Keep us up to date with the truck porn!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 13, 2010, 08:27:36 PM
No problem Orion.

I spent the last 4 days working on 505. Almost wrapped up. Electrical stuff is time consuming and freaking expensive!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 15, 2010, 12:45:29 PM
Lol! NOW do u see why I got into homebrew electronics!?

*dies in a fire*

Just hooked up an "accessory" switch... Took An hour to run 8 feet of wire, drill and mount, and install the inline fuse.
electronics are black holes for time and money!

Congrats btw, hope it all turned out well?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: patrat on April 16, 2010, 11:09:38 AM
Ha! Nice job. I recently gave up on my electronics, they did not prove to be durable for my environment. After 6 years my car alarm, door lock system, and sound system have all succumbed to the environment. I ripped most of the wiring out the other day.. it was bitter sweet as I had nearly 40 hours in the hidden wiring runs. Decided to get the car back to stock though, and get rid of the gremlins the aftermarket was causing.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 16, 2010, 09:21:13 PM
Success!

I now have a dual battery system using a Sure Power 1315 Battery Separator, hardwired a 750 watt inverter in the back and a 300 watt inverter in the cockpit (for a netbook i will add next month), added rear fog lights, added 3 more 12volt outlets(one to be dedicated to the 43 qt fridge/freezer that will arrive Saturday) and created a load plan that is far more useful and space-saving.

I've been crimping, soldering, testing, and cursing for six days now. But i did it.

Pics will follow very soon.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 16, 2010, 10:25:06 PM

Dude! I just looked at deep cycle batteries for my BOV today! Questions galore, but I'll wait for the pics. Kick ass!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 16, 2010, 10:45:51 PM
Dude! I just looked at deep cycle batteries for my BOV today! Questions galore, but I'll wait for the pics. Kick ass!

I can now talk CCA's and Amp Hours in my sleep.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 17, 2010, 12:55:59 AM
Well.. here's the short story:

Geo tracker is the BOV of choice, with fall back capability to the Santa Fe or the '39 Buick, should an EMP turn my electronics into smoldering paper weights.

So, the gossamer electrical system is driven by an anemic 65 amp alternator. I'm upgrading the alternator shortly, most likley to a single wire marine unit in the 100 amp range, and I want to do a deep cycle battery in place of the regular battery - MAYBE a dual battery system, but at this point, w/e goes. I just want to have 100-400 watts of AC power for short periods to run something like an angle grinder for a few minutes at a time, or more likely a dremel, in case I have to make repairs, do cutting/welding, etc. The rest of the time it'll be powering somthing like a laptop or in a pinch keeping my garage freezer alive in the unlikley event that my solar system can't quite keep up with demand. In that case, the engine would be running and I'd be dumping my 800 watt inverter into the mix, so I'd have 100 amps from the alternator and whatever extra the battery could provide for those few moments when the freezer compressor kicks on, etc.

Sooo, the big question that nobody can answer for me, is can I use a deep cycle to crank a 4 banger, or am I going to roast the battery? I was thinking an ultracapacitor in parallel with the battery would be a good bet for getting plenty of cranking amps for the whole .7 seconds it takes to fire her up.

Whatcha think?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on April 17, 2010, 07:47:10 AM
Goaty, your new avatar just scared away a zombie biker gang that was invading my house.
How exactly did you get a closeup picture of the devil?
:hare:
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on April 17, 2010, 08:35:46 AM
I've been crimping, soldering, testing, and cursing for six days now. But i did it.

Couldn't have been too hard, not enough cursing . . . .  ;)

(http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2681;type=avatar)

Don't you just hate it when a guy finally gives up everything he's worked for and lets go? Poor Goatie, done in by a wiring job!


 ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 17, 2010, 08:59:48 PM
Well.. here's the short story:

Geo tracker is the BOV of choice, with fall back capability to the Santa Fe or the '39 Buick, should an EMP turn my electronics into smoldering paper weights.

So, the gossamer electrical system is driven by an anemic 65 amp alternator. I'm upgrading the alternator shortly, most likley to a single wire marine unit in the 100 amp range, and I want to do a deep cycle battery in place of the regular battery - MAYBE a dual battery system, but at this point, w/e goes. I just want to have 100-400 watts of AC power for short periods to run something like an angle grinder for a few minutes at a time, or more likely a dremel, in case I have to make repairs, do cutting/welding, etc. The rest of the time it'll be powering somthing like a laptop or in a pinch keeping my garage freezer alive in the unlikley event that my solar system can't quite keep up with demand. In that case, the engine would be running and I'd be dumping my 800 watt inverter into the mix, so I'd have 100 amps from the alternator and whatever extra the battery could provide for those few moments when the freezer compressor kicks on, etc.

Sooo, the big question that nobody can answer for me, is can I use a deep cycle to crank a 4 banger, or am I going to roast the battery? I was thinking an ultracapacitor in parallel with the battery would be a good bet for getting plenty of cranking amps for the whole .7 seconds it takes to fire her up.

Whatcha think?

Optima Yellow Top. It is both a starter batt and a deep cycle. It is not a marine unit. My Blue Top is but it is a deep cycle. The Red Top is a starter battery only. Odyssey may make one too. The Sears Diehard is the same as an Odyssey, without the metal (armored) casing.

If you run your inverter pretty far from your battery you should consider using 4 or even 2 ga wire to minimize loss.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 18, 2010, 01:40:22 AM
Nah, passing it through the firewall - I have some spare knockouts that are unused, since I don't have A/C or power anything. I will be using monster huge fatboy cable.

Those optimas are NOT cheap... I think I saw one for something like 120-150 bucks?

Also, since I have a puny little motor with a puny little starter, does that change whether I should use a straight deep cycle vs. the dual purpose battery?

*Scratches head*

Not to question the advice, just making sure it's not overkill in this particular situation. In the meantime I did a little poking around, and the deep cycles that I can get for around 100 bucks seem to provide somewhere in the range of 500-600 CCA's...


I took astrophysics and my head is swimming with all this battery tech. Thanks for the input ;-)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roknrandy on April 18, 2010, 06:39:51 AM
so the truth is out now, coincidence?

(http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2681;type=avatar)
(http://pheed.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/xmen-wolverine.jpg)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on April 18, 2010, 06:41:44 AM
so the truth is out now, coincidence?

(http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;attach=2681;type=avatar)
(http://pheed.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/xmen-wolverine.jpg)

Its a father/son resemblance.
Goaty is 177 years old, but will only admit to 135.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 20, 2010, 08:18:22 PM
You bastards!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roknrandy on April 21, 2010, 06:37:18 AM
You bastards!

Feel the love yet??   ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on April 21, 2010, 07:21:43 AM
FYI, I've heard a lot of folks in the 4x community saying that Optima battery quality has fallen off and there are a lot of "lemons" out there.  It's hearsay, of course, so take it with a large grain of salt.  In the course of the discussion, however, alternative deep cycle companies were discussed and a lot of folks have switched to Odyssey batteries. (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/odyssey/)  Hold onto your wallet, though, because they're even more than the Optimas.  Still, if the rumors about lower reliability are true, it might be worth it.

Nice project truck, Goatdog.  You need to take it out for a field problem and see how well it all works.  Try to reach your family with the HAM, do some trail driving, sleep in it, etc.  Should make for fun times from the look of it! :)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 21, 2010, 08:10:20 AM
Thanks for the info on the batteries, guys.

I totally agree. He should take a weekend and visit some folks. You know, drive up on our rooves at 4AM and honk the horn to let us know where to aim to start the coffee.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on April 21, 2010, 09:01:31 AM
This post brought to you by the letter G. (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=16624.msg182693#new)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 23, 2010, 10:37:14 PM
FYI, I've heard a lot of folks in the 4x community saying that Optima battery quality has fallen off and there are a lot of "lemons" out there.  It's hearsay, of course, so take it with a large grain of salt.  In the course of the discussion, however, alternative deep cycle companies were discussed and a lot of folks have switched to Odyssey batteries. (http://www.expeditionexchange.com/odyssey/)  Hold onto your wallet, though, because they're even more than the Optimas.  Still, if the rumors about lower reliability are true, it might be worth it.

Nice project truck, Goatdog.  You need to take it out for a field problem and see how well it all works.  Try to reach your family with the HAM, do some trail driving, sleep in it, etc.  Should make for fun times from the look of it! :)

I have had tremendous luck with Optimas, but have heard the same rumors about them as you. So far, I cannot justify the additional expense of an Odyssey, as  even the Optimas are double the cost of regular batteries. I love the fact that AGM batts can be mounted on their sides or even upside down and that they require no venting.


I have slept in 505 many times Nadir and done quite a bit of trail driving. She is no poser. I have a lot of faith in her.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 24, 2010, 01:02:14 AM
I was thinking about this on my way to Richmond this evening. As I put my BOV together, I realized that between the capabilities (transportation, mobile sleeping quarters with life support and amenities, and self defense capability) and the ragtop flapping in the turbulent flow over my roof, it bears a strong resemblance to the covered wagons that carried our forebears across the appalachian mountains and points west.

I've decided to name my BOV "Connie", short for Conestoga.

Which brings me back on topic -

Does your 505 have a more anthropomorphic name?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 24, 2010, 03:50:33 PM
I call her "Rylee" a lot, after my youngest. I have a 'Raven" motorcycle for another daughter.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on April 25, 2010, 08:37:21 AM
I have had tremendous luck with Optimas, but have heard the same rumors about them as you.

I've only had one (a red top) go bad in what I considered too short a time, but unfortunately for me a time when money was tight.  For the time being, a solar-recharger that trickle charges the replacement has been a great solution (the vehicle in question doesn't get driven frequently).

So far, I cannot justify the additional expense of an Odyssey, as  even the Optimas are double the cost of regular batteries. I love the fact that AGM batts can be mounted on their sides or even upside down and that they require no venting.

I also like the side-posts, so you have multiple points of connection if you need to.  For my project vehicle I've gone with a separate fuse block from the boating industry to handle all the ancillary electronics.


I have slept in 505 many times Nadir and done quite a bit of trail driving. She is no poser. I have a lot of faith in her.

Just so we're clear, I wasn't suggesting for a moment that your 505 was a poser.  I know enough about 4x's and how they run to recognize the capability of a vehicle.  Layer on top of that your (astute) desire to blend in and not look like a monster truck and I think you've done an admirable job.  I wasn't sure, however, from your previous posts if you'd tried out the various modifications/improvements in the field and was only suggesting that you do so in order to avoid an "uh-oh" once you're in a position where you need something to work.  I suspect you do that a great deal with LBE and weapon-related materials in the course of your training duties - try it out and keep what works, ditch what doesn't. 

all the best,
-N
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 25, 2010, 10:26:45 AM
I call her "Rylee" a lot, after my youngest. I have a 'Raven" motorcycle for another daughter.

That's actually really sweet.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 27, 2010, 09:05:24 PM
I made a load plan to help me find things. The Army was big on load plans and I've always maintained one. It's not as confusing to me, because i'm the one who put everything there. Yes, it is all currently loaded on 505. Don't make too much fun of my schematic skills..."Damn it Jim, I'm a goatdog not an artist!"

   (http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5919/project505loadplan.jpg)

I have purposely left a few things off the plan, but I know where they are. ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Docwatmo on April 27, 2010, 09:17:54 PM
Man THAT brings back memories.  I haven't seen a load out plan since the army.  Actually still have a couple of the loadout sheets in a keepsake box somewhere.

Goaty, you are all kinds of awesome.  ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on April 27, 2010, 10:51:16 PM
That is the coolest damn thing I have ever, EVER seen.  I absolutely love it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on April 28, 2010, 05:38:54 AM
That is indeed, extraordinarily cool.  I contemplated doing something similar for the SO's BOB so she would be better able to find stuff in a hurry.  Inspiring stuff, GD.

Have you weighed the vehicle loaded?  Would be interesting to see where you are relative to its GVWR.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: tbharris09 on April 28, 2010, 08:30:58 AM
What are your thoughts on the iggee seat covers?  I am currently in the market for some seat covers for my truck.  It is between the iggee and some from a company name precision fit.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 28, 2010, 05:45:24 PM
What are your thoughts on the iggee seat covers?  I am currently in the market for some seat covers for my truck.  It is between the iggee and some from a company name precision fit.

Love the Iggees. I previously installed a set in my 95 Vette and loved how well they fit, but the fit on 505 is even better. Wipe clean with any spray cleaner too.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 28, 2010, 05:53:34 PM
That is indeed, extraordinarily cool.  I contemplated doing something similar for the SO's BOB so she would be better able to find stuff in a hurry.  Inspiring stuff, GD.

Have you weighed the vehicle loaded?  Would be interesting to see where you are relative to its GVWR.

I do have plans to do that, maybe when I next pass a truck stop. I wish I'd weighed it empty before the seat removal because GVWR ratings are notoriously light. The seats I took out were real bears as far as weight, so that helps. My mileage dropped 2 mpg on the interstate after the roof rack, lift, and bigger tires were installed. This is after compensating for the change in tire size.

Of one thing I am absolutely sure; it still weighs far less than than Mrs. Goatdogs 2006 Sequoia, which has the the same 4.7 engine/tranny combo. Maybe as much as a thousand less. In fact, the new Sequoia's (2008+) offer this same engine/tranny combo in a beast that is even heavier than my Sequoia.

Even so, 505 and my Sequoia are rated to tow 7000lbs. My 26' travel trailer weighs 5500 with all I usually carry in it, and 505 never seems to work too hard at it.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 28, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
That is the coolest damn thing I have ever, EVER seen.  I absolutely love it.

I'm obliged to say the same thing about your avatar SW!
Title: I hired some experts for 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 28, 2010, 07:54:28 PM
They were young but told me they knew what they were doing.

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5648/img6773f.jpg)

They even subcontracted a consultant for me.

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/918/img6726k.jpg)

When they pulled up in their badass Jeep, I figured i was in good shape.

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7572/img6721w.jpg)

They started right in at first.

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2450/img6740v.jpg)

But as soon as i turned my back...

(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9396/img6743.jpg)

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/2483/img6744e.jpg)

(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1728/img6754.jpg)

I should have known when they insisted on payment in full up front. They drove off laughing at the sucker (me).

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2848/img6722g.jpg)

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on April 28, 2010, 08:35:28 PM

What cuties.
Goaty, I know you've worked hard for what you have, but one look at those sweet little girls proves you are one blessed man.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 28, 2010, 08:41:14 PM
What cuties.
Goaty, I know you've worked hard for what you have, but one look at those sweet little girls proves you are one blessed man.

I surely know it!
Title: Modifications to 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:18:20 PM
What this list involves is a comprehensive accounting of what I've done or plan to do very soon. If it is marked in blue, I either have it and haven't installed it yet, or am actively researching which one to order. Long-term stuff that I haven't looked hard into are not on this list. This list does not have anything that was OEM or otherwise part of the original 2004 4Runner SR5 V8 4WD I bought for my wife in Oct 2004. I stole it from her last summer, with only 31K on the clock, when I bought her a Sequoia and I've been hot doing stuff to it ever since. It now has 54K.

I.   Exterior Lighting Upgrades
       A.   Headlights – Silverstar Ultra’s in Low Beam (9006), Factory Fogs (9006) and HighBeams (9005).
       B.   Taillights – Blacked out rear lens.
       C.   Supplemental Lighting.
             1.   PIAA 520 Driving Lights mounted to Bull Bar
             2.   Rear Fog lights mounted to Class III hitch for increasing rearward visibility when back, hitching a trailer, enhancing night
                   vision camera range.
             3.   Mini-Alley Lights mounted on Roof Rack.
             4.   Mini-Rock Lights mounted under chassis.
II.   Suspension/Brakes/Engine Upgrades
       A.   Cornfed 3” front and 2” rear spacer lift.
       B.   Spidertrax 1.25” Wheel Spacers.
       C.   Nitto Terra Grappler 265/70/17 All-Terrain Tires
       D.   Dimpled and Slotted Rotors from Performance Brake.
       E.   Ceramic Brake Pads.
       F.   Complete Brake Fluid change.
       G.   Prodigy Brake Controller.
       H.   K&N Air Filter.
        I.   Borla Dual Exhaust.
       J.   Mobil 1 5W/30 since 1st oil change.
       K.   Synthetic Differential Fluid.
       L.   Synthetic Grease.
       M.   Transmission Fluid Replaced.
       N.   Scan Gauge II Monitor.
       O.   Lev-O-Gage Inclinometer for incline and tilt.
     
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
III.   Dual Battery System
        A.   Sure Power Battery Separator – Isolates Main Battery from Auxiliary Battery so main is not drained when running
              accessories. Recharges, through the alternator, both batteries for starting if it detects that Main voltage is too low to start
              vehicle. Boost can be manually added through a momentary switch to facilitate use of a winch.
        B.    Optima Blue Top Marine Deep Cycle Battery mounted on fabricated battery mount on opposite side of engine bay from
              Main Battery.
        C.    Both Batteries and Isolator connected by 2 ga insulated and loomed wire.
        D.    4 ga wire running to rear compartment for accessories.
        E.    100 amp Circuit Breaker on accessory circuit.
        F.    Fuse Block in rear compartment.
        G.    Separate 12 ga wire running to 12V outlet for refrigerator
        I.    750 watt Inverter mounted to rear compartment
        J.     Main Battery has one switched 12V outlet in the cockpit, one switched in the right rear inside panel, and four unswitched
              12V outlets hidden inside console. All fused.
        K.    Aux Battery has one 12V unswitched outlet in mid-compartment for refrigerator, two 12V unswitched outlets mounted in
              rear compartment, and one unswitched 12V outlet in Engine Compartment.
        L.    Lighted Battery Monitor mounted on rear control panel.
        M.    Separate fused 12 ga wire running to cockpit for 300 watt Inverter under passenger seat.
        N.    Separate fused 12 ga wire running to rear fog lights.
        O.    Additional Electrical Mods.
              1.  RV Light mounted on rear compartment for camping or tailgating purposes. Yellow bulb to reduce bugs.
              2.  12V Light with extension under hood
              3.  Charger for Streamlight Flashlight (haven’t mounted yet)
              4.  12V LED Lighting in each storage compartment, three in Modular Storage, two in Subfloor
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:32:26 PM
IV.   Exterior Enhancements
        A.   Hunter Bull Bar
        B.   Go Rhino Rear Hitch Bar
        C.   Yakima Load Warrior with 20” extension
        D.   300 lb Hitch Cargo Rack
        E.   20% Window Tint all around
        F.   Rain X Wipers, front and rear
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:37:25 PM
V.   Comms/Nav/Entertainment System Upgrades
       A.   Kenwood 5140 DNX touch screen Head Unit
              1.   Garmin Navigation - preloaded with multiple bugout routes, waypoints, safehouses, and caches
              2.   DVD
              3.   CD
              4.   Bluetooth synced to cell phone
              5.   Night Vision Rear View Camera
              6.   AM/FM Tuner with RMS
              7.   IPOD Interface (video and audio)
              8.   USB Interface
              9.   XM/Sirius (not subscribed)
            10.   Television Tuner (still need antenna)
            11.   Additional Video Monitor setup for campsite viewing. Prewired already, just need monitor.
            12.   Additional Cameras for viewing left and right and overhead clearance (Roof Rack), chassis (Underneath), and
                   forward (under front bumper). Prewired already, just need cameras and switch.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:41:46 PM
B.   Rear Seat Entertainment System
      1.   DVD plays thru Kenwood or headsets
      2.   Accepts gaming systems (PS, Xbox, etc)
C.   Garmin Oregon 440t
      1.   TOPO Maps of entire U.S.
      2.   Bluetooth synced with Garmin in the Kenwood head unit
      3.   Wired in to 12V when mounted which recharges the AA batteries that are used when dismounted
      4.   Touch screen for ease of use and screen adjusts to available light automatically.
D.   Cobra 19wx Ultra CB Radio
      1.   External Speaker mounted near drivers ear
      2.   Wilson K30 Antenna mounted on roof behind rack
E.   Yaesu Dual Band Radio
      1.   Dual Band Mobile Antenna
      2.   Preloaded with Bugout repeaters and frequencies
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:47:42 PM
F.   Netbook Computer mounted in cockpit
      1.   Verizon Wireless phone card
      2.   TOPO Maps - signal from Oregon sent via Bluetooth to Netbook with positioning
      3.   Falconview database and imagery
      4.   Bugout Plan
      5.   Database of all information that could be useful in a Bugout Scenario
      6.   All ham radio repeater information
      7.   Vehicle Service manual (PDF)
      8.   Google Earth and Google Maps
      9.   Microsoft Office
    10.   Multiple other software optionsG.   Scanner with LE, FEMA, and other emergency frequencies
H.   Radar/Laser Detector
      1.   Speed Trap and Camera Database
      2.   GPS enabled
I.   Satellite Phone
J.   SPOT Beacon or ACR
K.   Paper Library
      1.    Delorme TOPO Maps for VA, TN, and NC
      2.   Rand McNally Road Atlas
      3.   Folding maps for VA, TN, NC, WV, and KY
      4.   Vehicle Service Manual
      5.   Operators manual for all onboard systems
      6.   POC for all friends/family/other support personnel
      7.   Bugout Plan
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 06:54:13 PM
VII.   Interior Enhancements
        A.   Middle Bench and Rear Jump Seats removed
        B.   Subfloor fabricated for recovery gear storage
        C.   Seven foot flat floor carpeted and covered with custom rubber mat   
        D.   Modular Storage with three large storage compartments and one linear,
             hidden compartment. Carpeted
        E.   Edgestar 43qt 12V and 110V Refrigerator. This fridge freezes and cools. The thermostat can be set for any temp between
             45 and -8 degrees fahrenheit. Unit can operate for extended periods at up to a 45 degree incline. Runs off 12V Aux Battery
             that can go at least 48 hours without needing a charge. Will turn off if it detects voltage is getting too low. Very well
             insulated and, even when compressor is running, is very quiet. In addition to integral thermometer LED readout on right side,
             I added an additional digital thermometer to left side to facilitate monitoring of temp.
        F.   Iggees Seat Covers in black and gray. Perfect fit.
        G.   Weathertech Molded Floor Mats gray, front and middle.
        H.   LEDs for all interior lights.
        I.   “Guinness” Bottle opener mounted on rear control panel.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Sister Wolf on April 29, 2010, 07:04:24 PM
you got the yeasu!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 29, 2010, 07:20:56 PM
you got the yeasu!!!!  ;D

Tried to order a 7900R yesterday...lost internet connection for a while. Today I started thinking about a Kenwood because a friend showed me his.

Either way, I'll have one ASAP. I can't test until 5 June
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 30, 2010, 10:30:54 AM
Bubba sez:

"Whuzza SPOT beacon?"
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on April 30, 2010, 10:33:32 AM
http://www.findmespot.com/en/ (http://www.findmespot.com/en/)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 30, 2010, 10:51:40 AM
Oh, so it's like onstar for your back pocket. NEAT.

And here I was thinking it was something you could put on a biscuit with eggs and cheese...

I'm going to go get lunch now.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on April 30, 2010, 10:53:36 AM
Onstar isn't satellite, its cellular.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Docwatmo on April 30, 2010, 10:56:41 AM
LOL, I was thinking 400,000 Candlepower spotlight.  Shows what I know, and i'm the technology geek. Whoops.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: hillclimber on April 30, 2010, 11:57:11 AM
I haven't visited this thread in a while, so don't whoop me if you already have one....
What about one of those mil-spec, roll up solor panels and a small charge controler??
With all the stuff that I've seen you add, you must've thought of this already??
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on April 30, 2010, 07:25:15 PM
I haven't visited this thread in a while, so don't whoop me if you already have one....
What about one of those mil-spec, roll up solor panels and a small charge controler??
With all the stuff that I've seen you add, you must've thought of this already??

I have one. Doubt it is Mil-Spec though. It's rollup and it trickle charges my aux or main batt. I tested it when I was at home last and it is slow, but it works.

It is on my load plan on the rear storage compartment.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on April 30, 2010, 08:48:11 PM
You don't travel with a pet, do you?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 01, 2010, 02:13:20 PM
You don't travel with a pet, do you?

My dog crate fits on the flat floor, but no, Zoey doesn't make the trips to work just to play.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: hillclimber on May 02, 2010, 12:01:11 PM
See, I knew you thought of it already!!
There were some mil surplus units available a while back that were around 2'x5', can't remember the output...
They were desert camo with grommets in the corners. ;)
I have one. Doubt it is Mil-Spec though. It's rollup and it trickle charges my aux or main batt. I tested it when I was at home last and it is slow, but it works.

It is on my load plan on the rear storage compartment.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on May 02, 2010, 03:35:27 PM
Wow I just got caught up and... well damn man... your car is so bad ass.  huge +1 for that kick ass load plan and awesome documentation.  I can not imagine how you fit all that stuff without ripping a hole in the space-time continuum, but congratulations. I stand in awe.  :o
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 02, 2010, 04:40:09 PM
I have one. Doubt it is Mil-Spec though. It's rollup and it trickle charges my aux or main batt. I tested it when I was at home last and it is slow, but it works.

It is on my load plan on the rear storage compartment.

Ok, quick question - by roll up, do you mean it's a bunch of individual cells in a rubber mat, or is it an actual thin film plastic solar cell that you can roll up? I've only ever handled very small (2" wide, 5" long) flex cells, and most of what I see online is what I would call a standard solar panel, just in a slightly more convenient package. Just wondering on performance/durability/etc. of the two versions. As a test I put a hole through one of the plastic cells, and it still worked - although with a slightly lower output current.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 05:59:06 PM
Ok, quick question - by roll up, do you mean it's a bunch of individual cells in a rubber mat, or is it an actual thin film plastic solar cell that you can roll up? I've only ever handled very small (2" wide, 5" long) flex cells, and most of what I see online is what I would call a standard solar panel, just in a slightly more convenient package. Just wondering on performance/durability/etc. of the two versions. As a test I put a hole through one of the plastic cells, and it still worked - although with a slightly lower output current.

Rubber mat. Sunline brand. Nothing fancy, works fine. Retails for $85 but Camping World had them on sale at $38 a couple weeks ago. I used it all day Saturday and never had to start 505 to charge the Aux. This while running the fridge and DVD and laptop, various lights, etc. I think I will go for about 65 watts when I reach that point in 505's evolvement.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 02, 2010, 06:19:34 PM
If you see another in the area, give me a heads up - PM or txt - might be nice, but for 85 bucks I'd just get another rigid panel for the house. I was able to characterize my 800 watt inverter a bit while running on a solar panel the other day - this is definitely a useful bit of tech. I'm planning a cooling mat for the back seat for Max. He gets super hot if I have to leave him in the car when I run into a store, and 20 watts or so would run a nice hefty peltier to cool off an aux. water tank - already have the pump, tubing, and parts, just need a panel. The flex would be great since I could just unzip my back window and flop it over the convertible top, then roll it up while I'm putting my stuff back in the car. Keeping a quart or two of water down around 65 degrees would do wonders, and the pump just circulates the water through tubing in the vynil cushion.

I've also thought about having to sleep in or near the car - I might have to rig one up to tuck under the front seat cover!
Title: Goatdog goes camping (again)
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 06:39:03 PM
I wanted to get away for the weekend before I go into another madness cycle at work. I like to camp, I especially like to be around nobody. Therefore i rarely use established campsites, unless thay are really unpopulated. A friend has an aunt worth over $50 million, she owns some prime real estate on the Chesapeake. Basically an entire finger of land on the North River near Mobjack Bay. The land she owns is huge and she is rarely even on the property. So I accepted the invite to camp and spent the weekend not seeing another soul, except whatever waved at me from the occasional passing sailboat. The weather was perfect.

I setup in a cleared field about 60 foot from the waters edge. I decided to go for the full Goat Mahal setup with the Texsport SUV Tent and most other systems running. That is Tier 3. Tier 2 is just an awning setup, Tier 1 is is the "stealth mode" where nothing outside of 505 is setup.

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4333/img6869m.jpg)

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1800/img6894si.jpg)

After an awesome night of staring at the stars I went to sleep in the back of 505. I thought about setting up the cot and staying in the attached tent, but frankly just didn't feel like putting forth the effort. So the tent remained mostly empty.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3961/img6912v.jpg)
View from back of the truck to the tent.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9058/img6915t.jpg)
View from outside back into the tent.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:02:51 PM
The next morning I was up by 0550 and watched the sun pop up at 0613. Forgot to snap pics of that. Then I started shooting my Ruger Mark III. Went through about 300 rounds (gotta love the .22s!). Made eggs and bacon on my Coleman Stove and Coleman Kitchen setup. Coffee too of course. Setup the little folding solar panel. Then it was kayak time.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3295/img6924k.jpg)

I went pretty far out and stayed about two hours.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3915/img6922c.jpg)

Mr. Foster went with me.

I came back in by noon and made me a nice lunch. Checked the dual battery system and found it was really doing well. The refrigerator was still at 38 degrees. This is a real refrigerator, it isn't one of those Koolatron peltier plate deals that suck amps and don't really work. This has a compressor and it runs on 12V or 110. It is designed for expedition vehicles. It cools to -8 F., meaning I could use it as a freezer but choose to leave the temp at the high 30's. It draws very few amps. Two weeks ago I when I first installed it, it went over two days before the voltage on the Aux went below 11.8

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8044/img6898g.jpg)
Probably one of my better purchases. I was happy to see it fit sideways on the flat floor of 505 instead of having to mount it longitudinally. I bought soome decent tiedown straps at Tractor Supply to make sure that if 505 rolls this doesn't come loose.

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7783/img6891j.jpg)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2017/img6892l.jpg)
It holds 43 qts. They have an 86 qt model that isn't really much bigger for only $60 more, but I just didn't need something like that. That is all useful space too because, unlike an ice cooler, there is no space occupied by ice. It has two removable baskets which is really cool because i don't have to wrestle the damn thing to fill it. I just fill the baskets and carry them out to the car. It has now been running for over two weeks off the 12V Aux Batt.  $474 including shipping. This model, as well as the ARB's and Engels, are proven off-road capable refrigerators. They can tilt at 45 degrees for as long as you want it to without any problems.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on May 02, 2010, 07:11:40 PM
Goaty, it looks like you have a mis-proportion of water to Fosters there.
Maybe dump that pinko yogurt and add more Fosters.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on May 02, 2010, 07:12:16 PM
(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/3915/img6922c.jpg)

Mr. Foster went with me.


You do know, of course, that no self-respecting Aussie would be caught dead drinking Fosters, right? They think it is roughly equivalent to PBR, Schlitz or Blatz here. At ;east that's what a couple of Aussies told me . . . .

 ;D

Nice camping trip, sounds like one of the great locations.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:12:47 PM
Later that afternoon I went out on the kayak again, in a different direction. A momma osprey did not like me getting so close and she really let me know it.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/6467/img6931d.jpg)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1224/img6934t.jpg)

When I returned to dry land, I thought I'd try out that $7 shower I bought last year at Wally World.

(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/8130/img6893r.jpg)

So I got buck naked and sprayed the very warm, almost too warm, water all over my luscious bod, soaping myself down in a sensous...er, I showered. It worked fine and I didn't even use two of the five gallons and could have used far less had I cared.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4941/img6938c.jpg)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:14:22 PM
Goaty, it looks like you have a mis-proportion of water to Fosters there.
Maybe dump that pinko yogurt and add more Fosters.

You can only see the top layer. Hidden within were a total of 5 Fosters, 4 Guinness', and 6 Jacks Hard Lime. I was not caught short.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on May 02, 2010, 07:15:57 PM
You can only see the top layer. Hidden within were a total of 5 Fosters, 4 Guinness', and 6 Jacks Hard Lime. I was not caught short.
Good man!
Still the pinko yogurt worries me.
Have you been luring hippies with free rides and yogurt again?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:17:54 PM
You do know, of course, that no self-respecting Aussie would be caught dead drinking Fosters, right? They think it is roughly equivalent to PBR, Schlitz or Blatz here. At ;east that's what a couple of Aussies told me . . . .

 ;D

Nice camping trip, sounds like one of the great locations.

I make no claim to being Australian, but could spend a few minutes with Nicole Kidman if forced to. I just love the size of the can, the strong taste and the buzz.

I suppose its like me and Bud or Miller. Won't touch em unless that is all there is, but foreigners always have to sample em. Probably sets back diplomacy a hundred years every time.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:19:23 PM
Good man!
Still the pinko yogurt worries me.
Have you been luring hippies with free rides and yogurt again?

C'mon man! Isn't the offense of possessing yogurt offset by the fact that I had a lot of manly bacon?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on May 02, 2010, 07:21:16 PM
C'mon man! Isn't the offense of possessing yogurt offset by the fact that I had a lot of manly bacon?
Let it be noted for the record that the defendant is non-responsive to the question.
 ;D



mmmmm, bacon
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:25:49 PM
I forgot to post the dual battery system.

I used my Optima Blue Top, made my own 2 ga cables, added a 100 amp between it and the accessories.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/446/img6884m.jpg)

Tied it into the Sure Power 214 Battery Separator. This thing keeps the two batts separate until the Main is fully charged, then it allows the alternator to charge the Aux. It'll add boost from the Aux if needed to start the engine. Keeps me from draining my Main unintentionally.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/399/img6887r.jpg)

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2932/img6888c.jpg)

Everything is fused or circuit breakered, crimped and soldered and shrink wrapped. I am proud of my goat-smelling ass.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 07:32:51 PM
The Aux Batt leads to the back on 4 ga wire, to a fuse block. From there it runs all kinds of stuff, the fridge, the 12V lights, the 300 and 750 watt inverters, multiple 12V outlets.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8504/img6902h.jpg)

All wiring will be hidden when I'm done adding stuff back here. I have a couple wild plans for this area yet.

(http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8415/img6904f.jpg)
The RV light was white but I switched the bulb to a more bug friendly color.

(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3764/img6903u.jpg)
Finally, I added the Guinness bottle opener. Because I care.


There is so much more I've done. I added blue LEDs today to all interior lights but, alas, no pics yet. I need to snap pics of the night vison rear view I replaced the original with. Also the rear fog lights to enhance my reversing.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 02, 2010, 08:13:06 PM

So that WAS you in that new herbal essences commercial!

Foster's - Canadian for Australian for beer...
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on May 02, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
Looking good, Goat Dog. 

With the roof rack and the storage space inside, can you carry enough fuel to make it all the way home without having to buy gas along the way?  Maybe having a fuel stash at work is another aspect of this project...

On the SPOT - did you buy the rescue insurance?  For $8 a year, it's a no-brainer so long as the world hasn't fallen apart. :)

-N
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 02, 2010, 08:41:57 PM
Looking good, Goat Dog. 

With the roof rack and the storage space inside, can you carry enough fuel to make it all the way home without having to buy gas along the way?  Maybe having a fuel stash at work is another aspect of this project...

On the SPOT - did you buy the rescue insurance?  For $8 a year, it's a no-brainer so long as the world hasn't fallen apart. :)

-N

I already have the cans at my FOB. They are filled. I only need 10 gallons above a full tank to get home but will carry 20 to give me a cushion.

Right now I have a registered ACR. I was thinking of replacing/supplementing it with a SPOT, because of the extra features, but maybe not..
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 02, 2010, 09:29:24 PM
Have you tried running the fridge from the inverter, or just direct off 12V?

also, how much heat does that dump back into the cabin when it's running?

Kick ass setup. You could probably live out of it for a weekend if you had to, don't you think?


 ;D


*snikt*


*thud*
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 03, 2010, 05:37:01 PM
Have you tried running the fridge from the inverter, or just direct off 12V?

I run it off the 12V directly...the Aux Batt to be specific. I thought I made that pretty clear. It has a 110V cord but, other than the first day I got it to make sure it worked, I leave it in 505 24/7 running on 12V. It could run off the inverter, but that decreases efficiency by about 25%. I see no point in that.

also, how much heat does that dump back into the cabin when it's running?

None, I literally feel no heat during the rare, and short, times that the compressor is running. This was made SPECIFICALLY for expedition vehicle usage, hence the cost. It is rugged, an amp miser, and very quiet. Check out the ARB, the Engel, or the Edgestar threads on Expedition Portal.com

Kick ass setup. You could probably live out of it for a weekend if you had to, don't you think?

Some guys go months.


 ;D


*snikt*


*thud*
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: evilphish on May 03, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
very very cool setup goatdog. 

aside from the yogurt controversy, I do have to ask.  When is the disco ball being installed?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on May 03, 2010, 08:52:34 PM
The Project gets better and better each time I check this thread.

Awesome job, Goatdog!

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 03, 2010, 08:56:04 PM
" It could run off the inverter, but that decreases efficiency by about 25%."

That's pretty much the answer to the question I was actually thinking of.

That whole spread is amazing. Thanks so much for posting the photos and all - lots of little details that make planning easier for the rest of us.

+1
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 04, 2010, 04:16:28 PM
very very cool setup goatdog. 

aside from the yogurt controversy, I do have to ask.  When is the disco ball being installed?

I'm looking for a 12V version. ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 04, 2010, 04:19:21 PM
The Project gets better and better each time I check this thread.

Awesome job, Goatdog!


Thank you Truik!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: evilphish on May 04, 2010, 06:53:18 PM
Quote
I'm looking for a 12V version.

hitting google..... or electronic workbench ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 11, 2010, 03:13:08 PM
I have a Yaesu FT-2900R that should be here by this weekend. Enclosed should be a Comet mobile antenna setup. I can't take my technician test until 5 June, but I can hook it up and listen/fiddle until then.

It is not a dual-band setup. The antenna is dual, should I change my mind. It does have a lot of high reviews and it is powerful (75 watts).

I ma intimidated by all I'll need to learn on it. I can setup a military/gov satellite uplink, with data trans even, in less than a minute in the woods, in the rain, at 3 am in about a minute and talk around the world. Just did that for the past two weeks several times. But I am not looking forward to the frustration that amateur radio might bring me while I try to figure it out.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on May 11, 2010, 04:00:54 PM
I have a Yaesu FT-2900R that should be here by this weekend.

 I can setup a military/gov satellite uplink, with data trans even, in less than a minute in the woods, in the rain, at 3 am in about a minute and talk around the world. Just did that for the past two weeks several times.

Umm...I'm going to go out on a limb and say you will have no problem with the FT-2900R.

Figure out how to setup and save a channel for a local repeater (about two minutes...max) and you will have accomplished one of the harder tasks on an amateur radio interface.

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 12, 2010, 12:00:19 AM
I have a Yaesu FT-2900R that should be here by this weekend. Enclosed should be a Comet mobile antenna setup. I can't take my technician test until 5 June, but I can hook it up and listen/fiddle until then.

It is not a dual-band setup. The antenna is dual, should I change my mind. It does have a lot of high reviews and it is powerful (75 watts).

I ma intimidated by all I'll need to learn on it. I can setup a military/gov satellite uplink, with data trans even, in less than a minute in the woods, in the rain, at 3 am in about a minute and talk around the world. Just did that for the past two weeks several times. But I am not looking forward to the frustration that amateur radio might bring me while I try to figure it out.

You're not talking about one of those bech ball antennae, are you? *drools*
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 12, 2010, 01:05:46 PM
Umm...I'm going to go out on a limb and say you will have no problem with the FT-2900R.

Figure out how to setup and save a channel for a local repeater (about two minutes...max) and you will have accomplished one of the harder tasks on an amateur radio interface.

I got worried and ordered a Nifty Guide for it. Supposed to be written for dumbasses like me. They say the Yaesu, as quality a radio as it is, does have a poorly translated manual that doesn't follow a logical sequence.

You're not talking about one of those bech ball antennae, are you? *drools*


I used a directional field setup because it has better gain, but like the omni-directionals for their simplicity
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 12, 2010, 01:11:02 PM
I like gain too.

I built a Yagi for a marine band radio one time to talk to my buddies as they came in for OpSail 2000. Managed to say howdy before my output amplifier fried itself into oblivion. The radio was about 15 years old when I picked it up for 50 bucks ;-)

Turns out they were nearly over the horizon when I picked 'em up.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: benjaminbrasel on May 13, 2010, 06:22:36 AM
Thought you  all might me interested in this for your Optima Battery's.
It looks very well made for $39.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/optima-battery-p-280.html (http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/optima-battery-p-280.html) 
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l48/benjaminsimpson/normal_Batterybox2.jpg)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 13, 2010, 07:48:43 PM
Thought you  all might me interested in this for your Optima Battery's.
It looks very well made for $39.

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/optima-battery-p-280.html (http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/optima-battery-p-280.html) 
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l48/benjaminsimpson/normal_Batterybox2.jpg)

I do like that! I had to fab one and it works well, but that one is so much cleaner. When it is time to remove/replace my Optima i will get one. Thanks Ben
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on May 16, 2010, 05:20:49 PM
hye El Jefe you should retire and open up a vehicle mods shop.  do it in Chattanooga and i may come to work for you when someone can't figure something out. I'm an ASE elecrical specialist among other things.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 16, 2010, 06:57:53 PM
hye El Jefe you should retire and open up a vehicle mods shop.  do it in Chattanooga and i may come to work for you when someone can't figure something out. I'm an ASE elecrical specialist among other things.

I'm too slow to make a profit.

I did get the Yaesu installed. Also cleaned my MAF (MAP?) sensor and throttle body too.

Need to learn how to program the Yaesu.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on May 16, 2010, 07:01:54 PM
I'm too slow to make a profit.

I did get the Yaesu installed. Also cleaned my MAF (MAP?) sensor and throttle body too.

Need to learn how to program the Yaesu.
we just need to park the 505 in front of the shop.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 16, 2010, 08:45:38 PM
Goatie:

MAP is Manifold Air Pressure - it typically looks like some sort of quarter to nickel sized black plastic hockey puck with a barb fitting on it, and a couple of wires coming out. Others just have a port on them and mount to the plenum/manifold somewhere between the filter and the throttle body.

MAF is Mass Air Flow, and is typically a little vane that sticks out into the intake manifold upstream of the throttle body fairly close to the engine. It's typically recognizable as a little coil of nichrome wire around a form, or around a separate resistor (thermistor). A circuit is set up to maintain constant current through the rig, so as it heats up, a higher voltage is needed to overcome the higher resistance and pass the same current. Voltage is measured and a lookup table in the computer tells it how much fuel to squirt - or how long to pulse the injector(s)

Here's a quick question - for EMP hardiness, would you/anyone be interested in a general purpose analog ECU that would at least run your vehicle with a minimum of setup/adjustment before getting back on the road? I'm thinking of putting one together that would handle 4/6/8 cylinders with the flip of a selector switch, and providing some standard OEM connectors so you just unplug the stock computer and toss this bad boy under the hood with some double sided sticky tape right over the housing of the existing computer - it would provide engine control only at this point, but I'm pretty sure I could work it up to be fabbed in quantities of 100 or so for 20-30 bucks a pop.

Figure you can toss it inside an ammo can and forget about it until one second after...
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on May 17, 2010, 01:25:47 AM
Here's a quick question - for EMP hardiness, would you/anyone be interested in a general purpose analog ECU that would at least run your vehicle with a minimum of setup/adjustment before getting back on the road? I'm thinking of putting one together that would handle 4/6/8 cylinders with the flip of a selector switch, and providing some standard OEM connectors so you just unplug the stock computer and toss this bad boy under the hood with some double sided sticky tape right over the housing of the existing computer - it would provide engine control only at this point, but I'm pretty sure I could work it up to be fabbed in quantities of 100 or so for 20-30 bucks a pop.

Figure you can toss it inside an ammo can and forget about it until one second after...

I'm sure there would be quite a market for that. Can one be made which is truly "one-size-fits-all" and/or how would we figure out the adjustments "in the field" so to speak?

(This may be one of the ways you fund the further research of your eventual Iron Man masterpiece. OB!)  :)

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 17, 2010, 02:34:36 AM
The principle is simple. All cars Read timing in one of three ways... Reluctance, hall effect or optical. Spark trigger is pretty standard. O2 sensors are universal, just different mounts - AFAIK there's no difference in terms of logic levels its all based on. Oxygen concentration in a ceramic matrix. MAF and MAP sensors for all nonexotic cars are made by one of three or four mfg on a common standard. ABS... Is another story. Fuel injectors are largely made by Delphi or follow their standards. Might go with a quick learning feedback system... Step the volts up from known minimums until a positive result is found and use a sample and hold amp and some and gates to set the output voltage...


In otherwords I could build a onesie that works and gets you out of the stone age, but no guarantees beyond the neolithic.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 17, 2010, 04:18:38 PM
I know what a MAF is, 505 has a MAF. I just was sleepy and couldn't remember which it was last night. Fords and Chryslers were using MAPs when i last checked. What they are using now I wouldn't know because I only own Toyota products now and for the foreseeable future.

I do not believe EMP is a big enough threat to prep for. I believe that a running car will be affected by an EMP pulse but an auto that has it's engine off will be fine. There will be plenty of cars that will start post-EMP.

I loved "One Second After" but, as I understand it, not very likely. The altitude needed to even set off a pulse that widespread is only available to a few countries right now.

Terrorists, a true near-future threat, will be more likely to do a major dirty bomb incident, even if the actual effectiveness is minimal (causing real panic but little actual damage). More VBIEDS, like Times Square, and suicide bombers will show their ugly faces too. And yes, a nuke can be as small as a backpack, the U.S. had them down to that size by the 70's. Still a remote threat right now but not as remote as an EMP. Unless the EMP is from solar activity, then it is as likely as any other world ending event.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 17, 2010, 04:42:46 PM
No prob. Lotsa folks get em mixed up even when they've had their wheaties!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on May 17, 2010, 08:44:06 PM
...In otherwords I could build a onesie that works and gets you out of the stone age, but no guarantees beyond the neolithic.

So, OB, as a kid, how many times did you set the house or garage on fire while trying to put the family cat into orbit? ;D   I bet your Mom could tell some serious stories! LOL
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 17, 2010, 09:05:39 PM
I actually fixed a cordless phone that everyone thought was dead when I was about 4 or so. Gramps was just sitting there, thinking I was maybe learning a little something by taking it apart before he tossed it in the trash, then mom walks in, almost freaks because she thought it was the new one, and *blip* I get a key beep when I snap the back cover on... apparently it worked for about four more years after that, through two battery changes!

So yeah, it's genetic. Mom got in on the fun too. You'll have to bring some beer over and I'll show you the crater in the driveway... and tell you about the night she and punched a 3 foot diameter hole in the forest canopy overhead  :P

Now I'm a design and process consultant.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on May 17, 2010, 09:29:33 PM
Goatdog - in light of the recent flooding of Nashville and surrounding areas, what steps have you or will you take to waterproof the 505's ECU/ECM?  The little bit of research I've done suggests waterproofing gasoline engines is extremely difficult, but I understand that many have jury-rigged adequate waterproofing for the most sensitive electronics.

OB - you're on whenever we finally meet - the first round of "story time" is on me!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on May 17, 2010, 09:43:31 PM
DUDE! holy crap - there's some really neat stuff I used on our traction control system for the formula car, because the aftermarket ECU we got was sprayed with it.

I think 3M makes it, but there's a few brands, it's a MIL-STD silicone conformal coating for electronics. Just spray it on, and it waterproofs your board. Boot grease should handle most connectors.

Dunno what you used goatie, but if you haven't done anything yet, give this stuff a shot, especially on the back plane of a printed circuit with all the little soldered leads poking through.

Actually... this is what you guys want: http://edageek.com/2010/02/11/egc2702-components/ (http://edageek.com/2010/02/11/egc2702-components/)

3M Novec EGC-2702

We used a silicone based product, but that has to be scraped off if you ever need to resolder a lead - this stuff apparently just vaporizes away when you apply soldering heat, then just respray. One micron thick - sounds like scotchguard for electronics!

Checked some data sheets and the like - definitely puts the thick goey overnight-cure silicone spray on junk to shame. Yeah!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on June 19, 2010, 01:39:38 PM
Goatdog - in light of the recent flooding of Nashville and surrounding areas, what steps have you or will you take to waterproof the 505's ECU/ECM?  The little bit of research I've done suggests waterproofing gasoline engines is extremely difficult, but I understand that many have jury-rigged adequate waterproofing for the most sensitive electronics.

OB - you're on whenever we finally meet - the first round of "story time" is on me!

Haven't done anything to waterproof the engine, so far I've been dealing with "probabilities". It is now time for me to look at "possibilities", like hardening, waterproofing, alien anal probing, etc.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on June 19, 2010, 01:52:25 PM
The Yaesu Ft-2900R

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2707/img6976e.jpg)

The ScangaugeII

(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/951/img6978y.jpg)

Some of the blue V-Leds. I replaced all interior lighting with LEDs to draw less ampps and brighten things up.

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/7665/img6945i.jpg)

The rear fogs. I can't remember if I ever posted these or not. I have them wired to a switch on the console. I only want them to come on when I want them too (dark trail or to enhance the rearview camera image).

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3381/img7034u.jpg)

Replaced my running boards with these;

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/3246/img7003x.jpg)

My way of getting back at the man;

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5071/img6964h.jpg)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: nafterize on June 19, 2010, 02:35:31 PM
Stick it to the man before he sticks it to you!

Nice work Goaty. Do you have a resource for the led lights?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on June 19, 2010, 02:41:57 PM
Stick it to the man before he sticks it to you!

Nice work Goaty. Do you have a resource for the led lights?

yep.

http://www.v-leds.com/ (http://www.v-leds.com/)

Go to the fitment guide and type in your vehicle.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: benjaminbrasel on June 23, 2010, 03:42:36 PM
 Would you recommend the LED lights in the interior. I need to light up the interior a bit more.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on June 23, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
Would you recommend the LED lights in the interior. I need to light up the interior a bit more.

Yes, and for at least four good reasons:

1. Draw way less amps...actually kind of hard to kill your battery with these. 505 automatically turns off lights before they reach that point but not all cars do..like my daughters Avalon.

2. They are FAR brighter and come in most colors. I love blue, but the white, amber, reds, purples, greens, etc are all just as nice.

3. They are low cost. I replaced both front drivers map lights, both middle domes, the rear cargo dome, and four door lights for less than $50. I had already upgraded all exterior lighting.

4. Easy to do. About a minute spent on each one.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: endurance on July 03, 2010, 06:25:31 PM
I just found this thread and read through all 14 pages.  Wow!  Impressive as hell.  Really like that stereo and our truck need a new one (CD deck just gave up the ghost last month and no i-pod jack), but even after finding one that was reconditioned, I just can't justify it right now.  Still, very cool and honestly, a lot cheaper than all those features in separate devices.

You've done some excellent detail work with your rear deck.  Makes me think about doing something similar in my commuter car to conceal my goodies, as I have to park downtown and now that we moved out to the sticks, I'm a 30 mile hike home if TSHTF and need a better GHB/kit than ever before.  Thanks for the ideas.  Once we get the move over with and the homestead secured, making some mods to my lil' Honda are definitely on the todo list. 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 03, 2010, 07:12:12 PM
Endurance, I'm glad you liked it and I appreciate your comments. Take it slow and do it as you can.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on July 03, 2010, 07:37:37 PM
Haven't done anything to waterproof the engine, so far I've been dealing with "probabilities". It is now time for me to look at "possibilities", like hardening, waterproofing, alien anal probing, etc.

Giving, or getting? ? ? ?    ;)

I am shopping for a new ride, trading in my F350 (  :'( ) and aging Olds Alero. This thread runs through my mind every time I look at something, kind of like WWJD for my life, but more scary, like What Would GoatDog Do with this vehicle?

I've started rejecting things as unworkable based on what I've learned here. Thanks, GD.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 04, 2010, 07:48:21 AM
Pathfinder, I was/am treading in uncharted water for a lot of this project so far. Each success made me a little bolder and willing to try something a little harder. The stereo install where I had to dismantle the dash/console had me nervous at first, but now I've done it several times since for other electronic additions (HAM, CB, lights, etc) and find it easy.

I could not have done it without support from the various people on several Toyota forums (who obviously have tremendous amounts of time). They take the time to put step-by-step instructions, with pictures, of their work. Some of it was just me though, like the entire sleeper concept in the rear.

I am calculating what to do next. I know I'm replacing my CV axles this month, but that is more of an insurance policy than a mod.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 20, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
I did replace the CV axles last week, after driving 2100 miles on a Florida trip. 505 was just great the entire time. The cold drinks in the fridge 24/7 was especially welcome. The 2m Ham radio kept me very entertained and I spoke/listened to a lot of good people across 6 or 7 states. The pre-programmed in-dash Garmin and the geocaches in the Garmin Oregon 400t made life easy in unknown territories. The Android took care of anything else I wanted to look for.

I really don't know what to do next. Right now all is just about perfect for my needs. 505 has been a success. :)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: LadyRebekah67 on July 20, 2010, 08:23:36 PM
You can DRIVE on the BEACH out there?  What is this world coming to, when a Californian is shocked that you're allowed to drive on the beach.  *sigh*

I'm a prior Californian - left in '06.  Just a little ways up the coast from you, Oceano State Beach, is still a drive on beach.  We used to throw a mattress in the pick-up bed and park overnight in the surf.  Had a friend come tow us out in the morning.  Anyway, it's near Pismo Beach, in San Luis Obispo county.  It'd be a nice mini vacation before you flee.  I miss it there, but not enough to justify the cost of living. 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 20, 2010, 08:47:57 PM
There's something very primal about driving and camping on the beach. I really love to do it. I've rode horses into the surf and thought that was grand but I own no horses and doubt I ever will.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: nafterize on July 20, 2010, 09:19:32 PM
I really don't know what to do next. Right now all is just about perfect for my needs. 505 has been a success. :)

The only direction left is... up.

How about a jetpack?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 20, 2010, 10:03:30 PM
The only direction left is... up.

How about a jetpack?

Won't that destroy my gas mileage?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Remman on July 20, 2010, 10:06:34 PM
nice digs!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on July 20, 2010, 10:24:46 PM
I really don't know what to do next. Right now all is just about perfect for my needs. 505 has been a success. :)

505 2.0

Two is one, one is none. ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: bartsdad on July 20, 2010, 10:26:12 PM
Or, maybe a motorcycle setup for back country travel to get you to the kayak.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: nafterize on July 21, 2010, 02:48:04 AM
Won't that destroy my gas mileage?

I don't think one can put gas mileage restrictions on "awesome."

Perhaps a submersible 505 would be more feasible.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on July 21, 2010, 04:41:33 AM
Won't that destroy my gas mileage?

Dude!

Its.
A.
Jetpack!!!!



 ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on July 21, 2010, 06:50:58 AM
Dude!

Its.
A.
Jetpack!!!!



 ;)

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/772/gdproject072110.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/gdproject072110.jpg/)

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 21, 2010, 06:42:31 PM
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/772/gdproject072110.jpg) (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/gdproject072110.jpg/)

That is just freaking hilarious. Great pic and imagination. ;D

Isn't there some point where wind resistance overcomes thrust and a higher speed is no longer feasible? Physics freaks please respond. The future of 505 hangs in the balance.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TexDaddy on July 21, 2010, 10:06:56 PM
...I really don't know what to do next. Right now all is just about perfect for my needs. 505 has been a success. :)
You can always add more armor and maybe Caterpillar tracks.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on July 22, 2010, 04:40:33 AM
You can always add more armor and maybe Caterpillar tracks.

[img width= height= alt=Image Hosted by ImageShack.us]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4525/gdproject072210a.jpg[/img]

[img width= height= alt=Image Hosted by ImageShack.us]http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3184/gdproject072210b.jpg[/img]

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Pathfinder on July 22, 2010, 04:46:06 AM
Isn't there some point where wind resistance overcomes thrust and a higher speed is no longer feasible? Physics freaks please respond. The future of 505 hangs in the balance.

Hey, they got the F-4 Phantom to fly, so apparently not!   ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 22, 2010, 04:59:49 AM
The tracks I like Truik. Maybe not in yellow, but very useful.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on July 22, 2010, 05:39:17 AM
The tracks I like Truik. Maybe not in yellow, but very useful.

I'll fix that. Anything else you want test-fitted, just let me know!

 ;D

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 22, 2010, 04:49:38 PM
I'll fix that. Anything else you want test-fitted, just let me know!

 ;D


120mm cannon, aimed remotely via my Kenwood head unit?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: endurance on July 22, 2010, 04:57:25 PM
120mm cannon, aimed remotely via my Kenwood head unit?
;D  Me likey!   ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on July 22, 2010, 07:53:46 PM
120mm cannon, aimed remotely via my Kenwood head unit?

The engineer said a 120mm might be a stretch but he did find something suitable for the vehicle (after reinforcing the frame quite a bit, of course).

Since the gun mount is controlled with your Kenwood, your antenna stays concealed until the gun is placed in a "parked" position and then the antenna pops up and the radio is returned to its normal operating frequencies. That way, you don't shoot off your antenna!   ;)

(http://a.imageshack.us/img442/3553/gdproject072210d.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/gdproject072210d.jpg/)

There is also a twin 12-gauge mount available.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/08/hammer_088.jpg)

 ::)


Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Fyrekat on July 22, 2010, 08:11:52 PM
How about up-armoring the sides, roll bars, search lights, KC lights on top, loudspeaker, run-flat tires, explosive-reactive armor, missile defense system, shot locating system and automatic return fire, mortar launcher, machine guns behind the headlights, sonic cannon, and a warp drive?

There's so much to build, and so little time to do it in, 2012 is almost here!!!  (:D)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on July 22, 2010, 09:17:56 PM
I'm not sure who should be more scared - you guys, or me - that i could put together just about everything you mentioned. Although you forgot smoke generators...
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Truik on July 22, 2010, 09:47:36 PM
I'm not sure who should be more scared - you guys, or me - that i could put together just about everything you mentioned. Although you forgot smoke generators...

And he's not just talkin' photoshop, either!

 :D

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on July 23, 2010, 11:28:01 AM
No I'm not.  ;D

Although another thought comes to mind - doesn't the 20mm cannon on a sub-5000 pound vehicle make the jet pack a wee bit redundant? Just make sure that Kenwood head unit can run vector math and your reload rate is high enough, and all you need are some stubby wings to keep from blowing out your tires on a landing... ;-)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: wcff3431 on July 23, 2010, 08:47:47 PM
goatdog  you have inspired me. starting to work on my old 97 dodge Dakota truck. thanks for the  ideas man.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on July 24, 2010, 12:14:42 AM
goatdog  you have inspired me. starting to work on my old 97 dodge Dakota truck. thanks for the  ideas man.

Do it, but be warned how addictive this can be.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: The Wilderness on August 02, 2010, 10:30:19 PM
I got to see 505 this weekend. This thread does not to it justice, as nice as the pics and description of work Goaty has done, are. It is much more impressive in person.

TW
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Hare of Caerbannog on August 03, 2010, 06:14:18 AM
I actually touched the driver's side back door!
True story. I'll never wash that hand again.
:hare:
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 03, 2010, 06:15:30 PM
I actually touched the driver's side back door!
True story. I'll never wash that hand again.
:hare:

I'll never touch that door again!

TW and HOC, you are too kind. Wish the rain had allowed me to give you the two bit tour.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on August 05, 2010, 04:16:12 PM
I think you'll need a cover to keep the dust off that turret.... how about some nice taupe taffeta?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: doublehelix on August 06, 2010, 05:41:54 PM
If you're telling me that, during my epic 505 mile journey post-SHTF, I'll be able to grab a microphone on a mobile ham setup in the BOV and talk to my family at our TN home on a base station ham...I'm all over that idea.

Leasing a couple of Iridium satphones, with just emergency airtime sim cards, would probably be the better solution in that event

YMMV
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on August 06, 2010, 10:00:37 PM
Leasing a couple of Iridium satphones, with just emergency airtime sim cards, would probably be the better solution in that event

YMMV


I have the long-range comms covered now. Not the ham, just something a friend set me up with.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: doublehelix on August 11, 2010, 08:31:15 PM
I have the long-range comms covered now. Not the ham, just something a friend set me up with.

Meteor Burst, or something your "uncle" set you up with ?

 ;D



http://www.radio-electronics.com/info/propagation/meteor-scatter/meteor-burst-communications.php

Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: doublehelix on August 15, 2010, 02:20:52 AM
BTW if anyone ever watches "Deadliest Catch" on Discovery, the ship-ship radios they use over hundreds of miles
are Meteor Burst.

Very popular in Alaska.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on March 19, 2011, 11:59:07 PM
Going on an away trip for the next week or so. I have a few mods, to include an awesome Borla dual exhaust setup, to add here but pics will wait unril early April.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on March 20, 2011, 05:54:41 PM
any closer to completion?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TexDaddy on March 20, 2011, 06:52:16 PM
any closer to completion?
Somehow, I get the idea it will never be 'finished.'  ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Docwatmo on March 21, 2011, 07:35:20 AM
When it can hover and teleport, it will be complete.  until then?  LOL

Lookin forward to the mods GD.

Doc
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: doublehelix on April 28, 2011, 02:10:59 PM
I need my picture fix Goat.....   ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Clybrad on May 13, 2011, 09:40:40 AM
I just now picked up on this thread.  I love it!  It has inspired me to fix up my jeep more than it is to hold this kind of stuff.

But more importantly, anything new going on Goatdog?  Oh yeah and +1 for all the work done so far!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on May 13, 2011, 01:31:49 PM
She's morphed a little. Latest pics I have are from the phone and it sucks transferring them here. But I stand admonished and will add it to my list.

Just this past weekend I blackened the Borla. Currently deciding on front bumper and satin black paint job.

Oh yeah, in December I bought a 2010 motorhome and have been modding that a whole lot more than 505. It is a nice mobile BOV.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Docwatmo on May 13, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
Wouldn't something that big be considered more of a BOD,  (Bug out Domicile) GD?   ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TexDaddy on May 13, 2011, 03:43:17 PM
I like that one Doc,

BOV x BOL = BOD

Simple arithmetic.  8)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on June 07, 2011, 08:26:17 PM
I Plasti-Dipped my grill and most emblems. I did the emblems 3 months ago and they have held up perfectly so I went ahead and did the grill. The coolest thing about Plasti-dip is that it adheres to itself and not what you are coating. This means it is reversible, easily reversible. Yet it is durable. There are guys on the Toyota forums that go wheeling and have Plasti-Dipped their wheels with no peeling.

I blacked out my Borla Duals also with VHT Exhaust paint. That was about 6 weeks ago and they are holding out nicely too.

This is all in prep for the satin black paint job I'll be doing soon enough. Probably after the Shrockworks bumper and heavier shocks are added.

(http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5738/20110602144302.jpg)

(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3614/20110602144312.jpg)
The motorhome in the background is my mobile BOL. Its really where I've spent my time and $ since December. It has had the Goatdog treatment and when I'm near completion I'll start a thread. It is already stocked for a few weeks of survival, except I only have 60 gallons of potable water onboard. I do have means of making the water I drive to potable though. We are going on a 21 day RV trip at the end of the month up to Acadia and a bunch of other places. It's a 2010 Four Winds Chateau 28A and is an inch short of 30 feet long.


(http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/3949/20110602144325.jpg)

(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/7297/20110602144337.jpg)

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1378/20110430134227.jpg)
I like stickers

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4531/20110602144354.jpg)
Funny thing is I have no stickers on the other four Toyotas but plastered 505 with them.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: LvsChant on June 07, 2011, 08:33:50 PM
very cool stuff, GD. Thanks for the picture updates. We look forward to photos of the BOD (bug out domicile).
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: TexDaddy on June 07, 2011, 08:35:43 PM
...We look forward to photos of the BOD (bug out domicile).
I am so glad you made that clear.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: endurance on June 08, 2011, 08:49:44 AM
Thanks for the update.  Can't wait to the the BOD's mods thread.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Roswell on June 08, 2011, 10:56:30 AM
Looking good!  Thanks for the updates.  Like everyone else said, I can't wait to see the thread on your BOD
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on June 08, 2011, 04:39:46 PM
Looking good!  Thanks for the updates.  Like everyone else said, I can't wait to see the thread on your BOD

I'll get to it after my trip.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on June 08, 2011, 05:21:59 PM
ave fun!!!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Remman on September 01, 2011, 09:05:00 PM
Great BOV!  I've been working on my Titan slowly, but nothing close to yours.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 02, 2011, 12:10:40 AM
Great BOV!  I've been working on my Titan slowly, but nothing close to yours.

Thanks. I'm sure you'll do a great job.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: homeshow on September 11, 2011, 10:05:32 AM
Picked out my project make and model.  Going old school. Jeep Wagoneer  70's model w/ diesel power plant.  Posi rear, air locker transfer case, Posi front, front and rear winch mount, wireless winch 5 ton class,  rear bumper with swing out gas. Can racks, modified roof rack for spare, cb, short wave, etc. 
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 11, 2011, 09:16:26 PM
Picked out my project make and model.  Going old school. Jeep Wagoneer  70's model w/ diesel power plant.  Posi rear, air locker transfer case, Posi front, front and rear winch mount, wireless winch 5 ton class,  rear bumper with swing out gas. Can racks, modified roof rack for spare, cb, short wave, etc.

Can't wait to see it. I ordered a 5x8 cargo trailer with a lot of options to make my BOT...BugOut Trailer. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: hillclimber on September 14, 2011, 12:46:06 PM
How did you make out with your "Maine Coast" trip?? I was over that way last week and I just happened to think of "GoatDog's RV trip".
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 14, 2011, 05:42:03 PM
How did you make out with your "Maine Coast" trip?? I was over that way last week and I just happened to think of "GoatDog's RV trip".

I loved it! Did the coast up and back. Bar Harbor is a great area and Acadia was simply stunning. We climbed the toughest trail up Cadillac and it was worth it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: WVMan73 on September 15, 2011, 04:41:03 PM
Can't wait to see it. I ordered a 5x8 cargo trailer with a lot of options to make my BOT...BugOut Trailer. Stay tuned.

I just got done reading this whole thread and am really impressed! And now you're starting on the BOT???  :o Oh the humanity... My mind will expload from all the ideas you've already got bouncing around in it, and now a BOT? YIKES!!!!  :excited:

OK, I'm officially hooked! I'll stay tuned, same thread, same channel.  :popcorn:

WVMan73
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on September 15, 2011, 05:16:18 PM
I just got done reading this whole thread and am really impressed! And now you're starting on the BOT???  :o Oh the humanity... My mind will expload from all the ideas you've already got bouncing around in it, and now a BOT? YIKES!!!!  :excited:

OK, I'm officially hooked! I'll stay tuned, same thread, same channel.  :popcorn:

WVMan73

Cool WV! I plan to document it here. Hopefully take delivery on the 23rd.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Johnnyrocco on October 09, 2011, 01:31:46 PM
Hello Goatdog and all TSPers following this thread.

I know I should make my way to the intro thread for my first post and will do so for my next post.
Just thought it was fitting to start here, as it was Goatdog and 505 that made me stop my lurking.

My desire to stay in the shadows of a new to me forum for a little longer was over ridden by my urge to tell you (Goatdog) how inspired I am by you and your 4runner.

I have an 88 4runner that has been begging me for attention for a while now and as soon as my friends VW is finished in my garage, I will be returning to work on that long overdue project.

Anyway... Inspired, motivated, and awed! I hope to one day attain a small fraction of your level of preparedness.

John

P.S. Patiently awaiting more Steel Resolve!
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 09, 2011, 08:40:41 PM
Hello Goatdog and all TSPers following this thread.

I know I should make my way to the intro thread for my first post and will do so for my next post.
Just thought it was fitting to start here, as it was Goatdog and 505 that made me stop my lurking.

My desire to stay in the shadows of a new to me forum for a little longer was over ridden by my urge to tell you (Goatdog) how inspired I am by you and your 4runner.

I have an 88 4runner that has been begging me for attention for a while now and as soon as my friends VW is finished in my garage, I will be returning to work on that long overdue project.

Anyway... Inspired, motivated, and awed! I hope to one day attain a small fraction of your level of preparedness.

John

P.S. Patiently awaiting more Steel Resolve!

Been on an "Away" trip and plan to get back to working on the Bugout Trailer by next week. Glad to hear you are inspired.

505 gets a new timing belt, water pump, coolant flush, and transmission flush tomorrow. Just scheduled maintenance stuff...no issues to cause this work (it is a Toyota after all). Then a wash and wax to prep her for winter.

Steele Resolve has been done over a year now. I just am not happy with it and won't release until I am, if I ever am. Working on another already.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on October 10, 2011, 12:10:09 PM
Been on an "Away" trip and plan to get back to working on the Bugout Trailer by next week. Glad to hear you are inspired.

505 gets a new timing belt, water pump, coolant flush, and transmission flush tomorrow. Just scheduled maintenance stuff...no issues to cause this work (it is a Toyota after all). Then a wash and wax to prep her for winter.

Steele Resolve has been done over a year now. I just am not happy with it and won't release until I am, if I ever am. Working on another already.

Well there's a load of good and bad news in that post! :-/  Glad to hear things are moving along with the trailer and that 505 hasn't been kicked to the curb (as often happens in the 4x world when someone 'completes' their project vehicle), but really sad to hear that about Steele Resolve.  Here's hoping by placing it on the back-burner for a bit, your subconscious figures out what you feel is missing so it can see the light of day.   
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on October 11, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
Well there's a load of good and bad news in that post! :-/  Glad to hear things are moving along with the trailer and that 505 hasn't been kicked to the curb (as often happens in the 4x world when someone 'completes' their project vehicle), but really sad to hear that about Steele Resolve.  Here's hoping by placing it on the back-burner for a bit, your subconscious figures out what you feel is missing so it can see the light of day.

Also did the plugs and serpentine belt...then oil/filter today. I can think of nothing that 505 is due for right now other than a good waxing. 505 will be mine, then one of my offsprings, for many year to come.

The bugout trailer gets wired next.

Steele Resolve may need a re-write of its last 1/3. I hoped not but it seems inevitable if I want to be proud of it.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Docwatmo on October 12, 2011, 07:03:58 AM
I'm  a very patient man, I've waited this long for Steel resolve, I can wait a few more weeks ;)   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: A Pirate on February 13, 2012, 07:54:21 PM
Awesome truck goatdog, have you considered adding a snorkel at all? To me it is a simple cheap ad on and it would be a shame to have that bad mambja go down due to a cheap add on. I have seen some bad floods in both the tropics and the desert and I would like to read what you have to say. Thanks.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on February 13, 2012, 10:15:56 PM
I'm back, and glad to see your vehicle so thoroughly tricked out.

While working on the trailer, keep in mind some of us locals have TIG welders, so long as you have a 220 outlet ;-)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on February 14, 2012, 05:07:46 AM
Trailers 2/3rds done. Started organizing pics this past weekend. New posting soon.

Debated snorkel, still not convinced.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Goatdog62 on February 21, 2012, 07:57:09 PM
I'm back, and glad to see your vehicle so thoroughly tricked out.

While working on the trailer, keep in mind some of us locals have TIG welders, so long as you have a 220 outlet ;-)

Thanks, and I do have both internal and external 220. I, after I complete some other stuff, may need some welding. I might take you up sometime this summer. Thanks Rion
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on February 26, 2012, 06:29:23 PM
No problem. Give me a couple days heads up so I can be sure to have a fresh argon tank ready to roll.

Behold, the power of Beer.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: ICBM99 on March 14, 2012, 10:49:23 AM
Love the project, simply awesome.  Eventually want to do something similar, but to an older Toyota.  I wonder if Toyota made a 4runner with a diesel for the US.  Off to the interwebs.

Goatdog, how's the trailer coming, I didn't see a new thread, and I don't see any updates since last month.  8)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on March 15, 2012, 09:59:03 PM
I now have access to a plasma cutter (CNC) and some more shop equipment, GD... let your imagination run free ;)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: ncjeeper on March 15, 2012, 11:18:23 PM
I now have access to a plasma cutter (CNC) and some more shop equipment, GD... let your imagination run free ;)
Sounds like my kinda party. Ill bring the leather gloves and helmet. :)
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: endurance on March 16, 2012, 06:30:23 AM
Sounds like my kinda party. Ill bring the leather gloves and helmet. :)
I'll bring the gimp.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on March 20, 2012, 12:03:01 PM
Lol. I still need a lathe and a rotary table, though... but I'll be turning out some nice little AR uppers soon.

*ponders*

wonder how successful a folded-steel lower kit for an AR might be...
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Bradbn4 on March 20, 2012, 08:12:52 PM
Lol. I still need a lathe and a rotary table, though... but I'll be turning out some nice little AR uppers soon.

*ponders*

wonder how successful a folded-steel lower kit for an AR might be...

So will a G0602 work for ya - no rotary table yet
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: ncjeeper on March 20, 2012, 08:30:44 PM
I have a 13x40 lathe. :D I cant make space shuttle parts with it, but besides that its decent.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on March 25, 2012, 10:48:35 AM
What's the ID on the headstock? if it's  1 1/2" or so, then I can make barrels on it! And turn all the bolt blanks for 12 receivers in about two hours.

How far are you from VA beach?
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: ncjeeper on March 25, 2012, 11:32:15 AM
ID will handle up to 1.5".
Looks like its about a 6 hour drive from your place to mine.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Orionblade on March 25, 2012, 02:34:03 PM
How about we go halvsies on gas, I build you an upper, and you bring your lathe up here in the back of your NC Jeep?

It's not THAT heavy...












(yes, I know, I have a 3-axis mill... *facepalm*)


Would you be interested in making some parts? So as to not further hijack the thread, PM me, and I'll send you a drawing or two.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: Nadir_E on May 08, 2012, 01:25:36 PM
Unless you have a waterproofed engine (some diesels qualify) then the snorkel is of limited utility (and makes the air-intake pathway longer).  The other use for them is for vehicles that operate in dusty environments and in convoy - the amount of dust ingested in long off-road trips can be enough to clog air filters.  That's the only reason I have one (here in SoCal most off-roading is in the desert).

I would love to have a diesel Toyota Hi-Lux with a snorkel though - pretty much indestructible, but also Unobtanium here in the U.S.

Interested to see your progress on the trailer, GoatDog.  Stay safe.

-N
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: nimzy88 on June 16, 2012, 02:00:14 PM
Hey Goatdog Im looking to get a Yakima Megawarrior and was curious if you tried out any of the accessories on your loadwarrior such as the Hi-lift attachment.
Title: Re: Goatdog's Project 505
Post by: dswaim on January 08, 2013, 12:06:14 PM
Nice Rig!