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Title: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: chesco_rich61 on May 21, 2018, 06:40:10 PM
Just moved to Collier county from Philadelphia any tips for everyday preps and hurricane prepping. Not liking the lack of basements but the fishing is good. How do you handle prepping in the heat and humidity?
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: Alan Georges on May 21, 2018, 09:57:50 PM
Congrats on the move.  Soooo much to go into here with hurricanes.  Will post as things come to mind, later (it's getting late here).  But first a few questions: What's your elevation?  How far are you from salt water?

How do you handle prepping in the heat and humidity?
Acclimation and hydration.  You just get out and work out in the heat a little bit at a time as the summer warms up, a little more every day, and by the time you need the ability to work outside all day in the heat you're already there.  Oh, it is painful and sweaty, but it pays off when the power's out for two weeks.  And hydration, just stay full on water and electrolyte replacement drink.  Consider a camelbak, or at least a few bike bottles for when you're working outside.
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: chesco_rich61 on May 22, 2018, 06:35:26 PM
Not sure about elevation I live near Collier blvd and 41.  Thanks for the advice about the heat.  Trying to keep hydrated is a good idea i’ve Found it hard especially at work and find myself forcing water down lol
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: Alan Georges on May 22, 2018, 07:41:02 PM
OK, two things people frequently don't think of when moving to hurricane country: windstorm insurance and flood insurance.  Neither of these items are covered by standard homeowner's policies for a hurricane.  They typically take 30 days to kick in, to keep people from waiting to the last minute when a storm is raging before finally purchasing.  If you haven't yet, there's still plenty of time to get these lined up before the thick part of hurricane season, but I wouldn't dawdle.

Trying to keep hydrated is a good idea i’ve Found it hard especially at work and find myself forcing water down lol
Try hydration backpack – "camelbak" is the original brand but there are a lot of others out there now.  They encourage continuous sipping, because you don't have to put down what you're doing to pick up a bottle.
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: LvsChant on May 22, 2018, 08:44:49 PM
Finding your elevation of your house is pretty important... I have a friend who had a custom home built in FL with a certified elevation of 11 ft. Well... apparently the surveyer made an error... her house (which has already flooded twice in the past 2 years -- both times during a hurricane) is about 7 ft elevation. If it had actually been built at the elevation of 11 ft, she would have been unscathed both times. She's now trying to figure out what to do about it...

Making mental plans of what you'll do when you have to evacuate for a hurricane is a good (and relatively easy) thing to do. Looking at plans for the various levels of severe weather and how you'll react will help you get things together quickly and with as little as possible trouble when it comes. And... regardless of whether you are on the east or west side, if you are fairly near the coast, you'll be evacuating at some point, I'd guess.

I and my family lived in the New Orleans area when Katrina hit... I had already evacuated (with the boys and dog) at least once and maybe twice (like childbirth, the memory fades) during the same season by myself (hubs was in 'stan at the time). My preparations were: Move all the artwork to the second floor so minimize the possibility of damage by flooding... we placed them in the bathtub and covered with a shower curtain (against possible roof leaks) -- no idea if that would have helped, but it made me feel better. Our house didn't lose its roof and didn't flood, so my preparations were never put to the test.

I had a couple of large rubbermaid containers that carried important papers and things from the safe -- quickly loaded and kept in order. You can also put family photos in there, as well as irreplaceable keepsakes. We packed a suitcase for each person with good supply of clothes for the season. Also, I homeschooled the kids, so the school books came along, too.

I tried to get the refrigerator and freezer pretty well cleaned out in advance (you wouldn't believe the number of refrigerators and freezers that were completely destroyed by the putrid spoiled food... in every neighborhood you would see refrigerators and freezers out on the curb, waiting for disposal. This would mainly be the case in a situation where the power was out for an extremely long time, but you could save yourself some trouble if you try to minimize this possibility. After all, a power outage of some duration is almost guaranteed if you are in the path of a hurricane.

Anything moveable (lawn furniture, tools, children's toys, etc.) stored in the garage or somewhere out of the wind.

Plan ahead for when you'll leave... middle of the night is optimum, in my opinion... much less traffic. Make reservations at your preferred place to evacuate very early. If you don't end up needing the room, you can always cancel. Getting a reservation later is nearly impossible sometimes. And if you wait, you'll have to travel farther away to find something. If you have pets, be sure the hotel will accept them. Make sure the pets have had all their shots and bring the records with you.

If the path isn't directly where you live, you may want to ride out the storm at home. There are a completely different set of things to do if you plan to stay...

Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: chesco_rich61 on May 26, 2018, 07:58:08 AM
Thanks for the advise. I’ve been starting to organize/prioritize what to keep with me and updating my info binder. 
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: Carl on May 26, 2018, 08:42:43 AM
  Look closely at your elevation,construction,and survivability of your living space and you may plan to be more mobile  (as in RUN AWAY) for some storms as waiting to escape till the last minute rarely is successful.A plan for a short term mobile kit with extended home kit for those 'stay in place' storms.
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: Davew223 on May 30, 2018, 12:22:10 PM
First thing, a couple thousand in cash and a Rand McNally.

Getting out:

If you don't have a boat yet, look at some bay boat's.  That close to 10,000 Islands, it's a must have if you like fishing.  As a side benefit, most bay boats hold 35+ gallons of (fresh non-ethanol fuel), 1 or 2 deep cycle batteries and a radio that's both a weather radio and VHF that is monitored (channel 16) by the coast guard 24-7.  Keep the tank full, with our humidity condensation is an issue.  That much fuel will run a generator for a pretty good while or keep you from having to wait in the horrendous lines at the stations if you leave.  If you have a diesel truck, use Jacks rotating fuel can idea.  If you do evac, bring your boat, fishing is usually good ahead of a storm up here in the north gulf coast.  A spare bulb should be kept in the boat anyway and some extra fuel line will give you access to the fuel in the boats tank.

While you are pretty low in elevation, that area would have to have a storm get into the gulf and turn east into Tampa or below to give you much of a surge.  The front right side (in relation to the direction it's moving) is always the worst due to the rotation.  It happened in '04 when Charlie hit Punta Gorda but that's pretty rare.  Usually the storms that hit around Naples seem to come across the state, lose a lot of energy while doing so and not have much if any surge.  Irma drained Tampa Bay.

Evacuation usually isn't too bad if you think about your routes and carry plenty of fuel.  While evacuating from our vacation in Marathon for Irma, the lines for fuel were all the way out on the Turnpike.  For a storm like Irma SR-29 to US-27N is a good route.  441 and 301 are good roads once you get above Orlando.  For a storm that has entered the gulf and is strengthening I might cross the state and run up 95.  I prefer to stay off of the interstates and the turnpike as much as possible.  If for no other reason, it can take an hour or more just to pull in for your wife to pee. 

Getting a room can be impossible, we dropped the boat off at the house in Tallahassee and finished our vacation with my wife's friends in Augusta.  All the rooms well up into Georgia were full, all the fuel cans were gone from the shelves and many of the fuel stations were out of fuel.

Prepping to stay:

Layer the bottom of your chest / bait freezer with upright bottles of water and cover that with a layer of cardboard.  With that you have a thermal battery, fresh water and don't have to reach down and dig around so far to get stuff out the rest of the time.  That, along with some extra jugs that you can fill up will give you plenty of clean water and with all the lakes down there a 5 gal bucket will get water for flushing etc.  If water service is out, I've left for a trip to either the North gulf coast or Jacksonville depending on the track.

If you have natural gas available, a gas water heater is great.  It takes little to no electricity to operate and cold showers suck.  Gas stoves also beat electric hands down.  I would still have a grill and Camp Chef stove with several extra tanks of propane.

The chances of losing water are pretty slim compared to electric and losing gas is even more remote.

Having a generator panel added to your house with a plug and a double ended cord is a thousand times better than extension cords.  Just make sure that you don't back feed into the main panel without the main disconnect shut off.  That is a quick way to kill a lineman that's trying to get your power back on.  Any good electrician will be able to take care of this and a properly installed generator panel with a transfer switch makes it almost impossible.  Changing all your bulbs out to LED's will lessen the draw on the generator.  A small window unit AC for the bedroom is also a good idea.

The least of my concerns outside of a well stocked pantry and freezer is food.  If you have any yard at all, there is no reason that you can't have something ready to pick year round, especially during hurricane season and you live right in one of the worlds largest natural supermarkets.  A little knowledge about fishing and wild edibles and you have a never ending food supply.

The NUMBER 1 MOST IMPORTANT item to have is a couple of Thermacell's ( and plenty of refills.
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: Davew223 on May 30, 2018, 12:27:50 PM
Alan Georges had a good point about the insurance.  I would add that you should get a wind load inspection done if you haven't yet done so.  There are some pretty good discounts for things like a gable roof, truss strapping, impact rated shutters, etc.
Title: Re: Just moved to SWFL from PA
Post by: chesco_rich61 on June 09, 2018, 07:53:13 AM
Wow thanks for the info.  It will take me a bit to get everything in order, looking to buy soon and with planning a wedding it is a little hectic here.