If you liked Lucifers Hammer try " A Mote in God's Eye " I 'm going off of memory but I believe it's Pournell and Larry Niven together.Agreed, another one i have read a few time. Niven/Pournelle are a killer team. Jerry Pournelle became a good friend of Mel Tappen (look him up if you do not know the name) who is often quoted as the father of modern survivalist. Just reading Stone Castle by Ian Banks, hard work (post world/civil war set in the UK), i'll be glad when its over!
Jerry Pournelle became a good friend of Mel Tappen (look him up if you do not know the name) who is often quoted as the father of modern survivalist. Just reading Stone Castle by Ian Banks, hard work (post world/civil war set in the UK), i'll be glad when its over!
How about "The Road" By Cormac Mcarthy
That, is a PAW book if I ever read one.
Agree "Unintended Consequences" is an excellent read. Might want to pay cash for that one though. No credit card receipt is better for that story ;)
Lights out by Halffast. Available online for free.
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?Yeah, what 19kilo said.
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?Yeah, what 19kilo said.
Lights out. http://survivalmonkey.com/SF%20books/LightsOut!/LightsOut-Current.pdfI can't access the Lights Out .pdf link.
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Cold camp----http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=10&f=20&t=616500
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Here is my copy of it:Cool, thanks!
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I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn... it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn... it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?
It was good, but I still didn't want to get naked and to the chim chim dance when I finished it. Wow......
I think I can figure out who Rober Duvall will play in the movie...
BP
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn... it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?
No.
It gave me hope.
The hole point is, despite the terrible circumstances, The Man did not give up. To me, that's central to survivalism: not just offing yourself the moment civilisation can't offer you a hot latte... Not to have some spare batteries for a two-hour blackout, but to have the will to survive the worst.
And to think about how many people actually have that little food today! :o
So I think the wives' reaction was kind of depressing, but found lots of strength in The Mans refusal to give up (and even read The Boy a story now and again).
I am reading one online right now called: "We Interrupt This Program". It's on Homesteading Today. I'm only about 1/2 way through.
My take on The Road was that the future would be brighter through the son. The father, though better than 99% of the people still had a dark side. I think the scene when the person stole their cart showed the difference between the father/the old world & the son/the future world.
timsuggs,
http://www.graphicaudio.net/c-66-survivalist.aspx
swanson
Both authors imagined there would be groups of people who banded together to enact their sickest fantasies.
Both authors imagined there would be groups of people who banded together to enact their sickest fantasies.
Like Politicians? :D
No one has mentioned "World Made by hand"? Great book, good for introducing the genteler side of survivalism.
Also My take on the road is only read if you can withstand the amount of depression it instills in you. Gawd I felt aweful almost the entire time I read it. So sad, but things are going to be like that in the end for some people.
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn... it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?I read the first half of the book the day I got it. That night I put my 3 yo son in bed with me and kept reaching over to amke sure he was breathing. This is a great book, but yes extremly depressing.
Nobody has mentioned the "Hatchet" series.
I read the first three while I was in the Scouts, and they made me think.
The Hatched books and "My Side of The Mountian" Will be read to my child when he/she is born ;D
First a request to the Monitors: An off Post sub-directory form of Listing of Survival Books for reference, please.... might also be good for other things, a listing attached to a forum post... like recipes, URLs, ammo, etc... things that get re-posted often because they get lost in the depths of a thread and are hard to find.Sandra here you go. The list of books & stories (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0) per your request.
First a request to the Monitors: An off Post sub-directory form of Listing of Survival Books for reference, please.... might also be good for other things, a listing attached to a forum post... like recipes, URLs, ammo, etc... things that get re-posted often because they get lost in the depths of a thread and are hard to find.Sandra here you go. The list of books & stories (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0) per your request.
It's located in The Repository.
Has anyone read The Road by Cormac McCarthy?
No one has mentioned "World Made by hand"? Great book, good for introducing the genteler side of survivalism.
Also My take on the road is only read if you can withstand the amount of depression it instills in you. Gawd I felt aweful almost the entire time I read it. So sad, but things are going to be like that in the end for some people.
Yes, I have that book. I am going to read it when I finish the long emergency.
Just some additions that I haven't seen on here:
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The entire "The Guardians" series. . well. . .at least until around book 10. Then some ghost writer messed it all up.
The entire series was Ghost written. A guy named Vic Milian wrote the first 12 or so, and then a handful of authors took it out to somewhere around 20. There never really was a real Richard Austin.
Paperback PAW Series: My 3 favorite, in order. Got me through 6 years in the AF
The Survivalist - Jerry Ahern
End World - David Robbins
The Warlord - Jason Frost
And if anyone has any of these, I'm buying!
Tim Suggs
Birmingham, AL. USA!
Just found the name of one of the books. "The Iceberg Hermit" by James Hogg
You beat me to it... :(
Definately #1 on my list. Literary quality is excellent, which is rare in the genre (the guy won a pulitzer!). The bleakness and desperation is unrelenting all the way through.
Just finished the audio version of "The Last Town on Earth" by Thomas Mullen
Just finished the audio version of "The Last Town on Earth" by Thomas Mullen
http://www.amazon.com/Last-Town-Earth-Novel/dp/0812975928/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240181242&sr=8-1
An excellent historical fiction book about a logging town in the pacific northwest trying to isolate themselves from the flu of 1918, along with dealing with WWI. I highly recommend it.
Thank You DeltaEchoVictor!! And now I'll add a survival series I don't see on the list: William Johnstone's "Ashes" series...the first one is "Out of the Ashes" this series is hard core conservative, very military and quite tongue-in-cheek at times. I loved his phrase "hanky-stomping liberals". His hero Ben Raines pulls no punches, gives no quarter, takes no hostages, follows Marine rules, is beloved by his "troops" and despised by his enemies.
I just got through reading 'The Road' yesterday. Yes, it was good. Very good. But damn... it was IMO completely depressing. Did no one else feel that way?
I also recommend "Tunnels Through The Sky", And actually everything Heinlein wrote!!!!
I bought it on my wife's Kindle and now I have to wait for her to put it down to get back into it.
http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/0765317583/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242099727&sr=8-1
A brief warning, I was an English major in college and I have written extensively on Cormac McCarthy.
Something that doesn't seem to have been mentioned is that McCarthy is not writing his PAW novel for the same reason that many do. For instance, I have just finished reading One Second After by William Forstchen, and books like his as well as James Wesley, Rawles' Patriots are books in the novel form intended to convey a message. In Forstchen's case, the vulnerability of the USA to EMP attack. As a side note, the book is a decent cautionary tale, but Forstchen is not a good writer.
In McCarthy's case, the novel is intended to be not cautionary/pop-literature, but a literary dealing with the bleak future/nature of man. Many here, I am sure, can identify at least in part with this message. The book is depressing because McCarthy sees little worth saving, if indeed it were even possible. Many take from it an indomitable push to survive, which is certainly there, but taken in relation to the whole of his canon, McCarthy is working towards his feeling on the irredeemable nature of man. And rather than having hope because of some return the the prelapsarian, McCarthy conveys a picture of us that cannot possibly be born of innocence. (Take a look at my footer quote for more on this.)
All of that being said, The Road is one of the better PAW novels I have ever read, if not for practical knowledge, then for its examination of the root of our demise.
Also, Alas, Babylon and We are great reads, though the latter is dystopian rather than post-apocalyptic.
I am about 70% done with "One second after " and would highly recommend it. I got the audio version and it is well done. Very thought provoking.
Keep reading. It will scare you at times. Lots to think about.
Theres been great buzz about One Second After, so I picked up a copy. Hope its as good as everyone says. :-)
Considering that "Lights Out" is a free internet download from Frugal Squirrel it seems unlikely there will actually be a paperback. The writer is very very good. I read the book - right off my laptop while recuperating from knee surgery. It was excellent. I want to hear more from the characters. Hopefully, he'll write a sequel and get it published. He deserves the credit and income from being a successful writer.
Considering that "Lights Out" is a free internet download from Frugal Squirrel it seems unlikely there will actually be a paperback. The writer is very very good. I read the book - right off my laptop while recuperating from knee surgery. It was excellent. I want to hear more from the characters. Hopefully, he'll write a sequel and get it published. He deserves the credit and income from being a successful writer.
Hello;
First post, glad to be here.
I have ordered "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. I heard it was excellent, used copies on Amazon are $50.00!! I ordered my for a much lower price (34.95 ha ha) and it is still on back order.
Has anyone read it? Is it that good?
I have ordered "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. I heard it was excellent, used copies on Amazon are $50.00!! I ordered my for a much lower price (34.95 ha ha) and it is still on back order.
Has anyone read it? Is it that good?
I have it, have read it twice, and throughly enjoyed it.
That being said, there's good and there's bad.
Good: it does a GREAT job of illustrating both what's possible with firearms (given enough practice), and how much freedom we've already LOST.
Bad: I thought the stories of actual events (Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc.) in the book were EXTREMELY biased, to the point of being cartoonish.
Just finished Farnham's Freehold by Robert A Heinlein today.
No spoilers but... It started off pretty good, got strange for majority of the book and ended weirdly but satisfactory I suppose.
I'd give it a 6 or 7 out of 10
Just finished Walk-About: A Story of the Future by a new TSP member, Rebecca A. Smith. Fast read at 84 pages and not bad at all. It seemed to me a chapter of a much larger story and maybe that was RS's intent though I don't know. There was not as much asskicking action that I prefer, but I'd recommend that folks give it a try.
Berserker Prime
How about a link for the story...
http://www.amazon.com/Walk-About-Rebecca-Smith/dp/0557065003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247196601&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Walk-About-Rebecca-Smith/dp/0557065003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247196601&sr=1-1)
Here you MM!
SPOILERS listed at bottom of post.QuoteWar Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war. The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA. Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries. Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993. In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy. Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book. Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc.War Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war. The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA. Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries. Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993. In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy. Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book. Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc.
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.
War Day is a novel about a couple of reporters traveling the USA 5 years after a limited nuclear war. The Russians used very powerful EMP weapons which stopped any subsequent launches by the USA. Both superpowers only got off a small initial strike, and are now at best third-world level countries. Published in 1984, the war occurs in 1988, and there trip takes place in 1993. In large print in the old copy I have, the book proudly lists an endorsement by Senator Ted Kennedy. Presumably because of the political-left hostility to the survivalist viewpoint, there is very little "how-to" in the book. Large portions of the book list Govt documents about the effects of radiation, economic effects, etc.
Only for the hardcore PA fiction fan.
Who was the author?
The Professor
Man i'm glad this thread exists. I used to be a voracious reader. But kids and life kind of got in the way the last 10 years or so. (not a bad thing by any means :) ). I just really miss horking down novel after novel in my spare time.
Just finished Steven King's "Under the Dome" and as stated earlier, the "event" isn't terribly helpful in terms of thinking through one's prep's, but the author's character development and how those characters behave when stressed is useful. I couldn't help but think in several sections, "Well now, you'd be a WHOLE lot better off right now if you'd stored up X, Y or Z, wouldn't you?" So, an entertaining read, but not as focused as more traditional SHTF novels.
Hey its called Remnant, you can read it o n his blog. He is up to chapter 46. http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com (http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com). Check it out, only I cant stand waiting for him to post the next chapter. Hope this helps.
How about "The Road" By Cormac Mcarthy
That, is a PAW book if I ever read one.
Any info on lucifers hammer, i got the free kindle preview and it is SLOW. Is there a pickup to the action?
The only fiction recommendation I would make in the apocalyptic/survival vein would be Canticle for Leibowitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Canticle_for_Leibowitz).
I have an e-book question. I have a good start of hard copy survival books, about 50, too many to bug out with, on a broad range of topics. I also recently purchased an iPad and downloaded the Kindle application. I am looking to expand my survival library; however, I am torn between buying hard copies of the books (tangible things) and downloading the e-books. The e-books could all fit in my bug-out-bag in fragile Kindle form. I am weighing the power requirements and vulnerability of the iPad verses having to pick only one or two books to take with me. I guess everything is prone to failure in extreme enough conditions – like if I had to swim a river with my books in my pants. Then again with enough money and space I could seal my iPad in a pelican case. I don’t have a BOL yet where I could cache books. This may be an un-problem. I am in the hurricane belt and my most likely Scenario is that I return home to find my survival library a pile of mush – I think I just answered my own question.
Anyway - what information are you planning to bug out with and in what form are you carrying it?
How will you protect your library if you have to leave it behind?
Jack, could this be a show question, I would love you input?
Forgive me if this has been covered before - I am new.
Tom form Florida.
Just got done reading "Rohan Nation, Reinventing America after the 2020 collapse" by Dr. Drew Miller.
The book is just under 500 pages with plenty of action. I really enjoyed it. Dr Miller covers a lot of ground and while the book is fiction, there is quite a bit of history covered including insight into what some see coming from a collapse from a political standpoint. This guy is very well versed on the military end of things as well.
While not a horse person myself, the author uses them as the title and focus of this book and on how they are used in a post collapse scenario.
http://www.amazon.com/Rohan-Nation-Reinventing-America-Collapse/dp/0984370900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290746951&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Rohan-Nation-Reinventing-America-Collapse/dp/0984370900/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1290746951&sr=8-1)
what about the patriot , surviving the coming collapse , by james wesely rawles
I'm just about finished reading When All Hell Breaks Loose by Cody Lundin which has been a source of great information. I'm liking a lot of the reviews posted here and on other threads http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0 (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=2946.0).........
But if you had to 1 book to recommend that is a must have, useful and entertaining read what would it be?