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Offline Greekman

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Re: The George Floyd riots in Mpls
« Reply #390 on: October 13, 2020, 09:13:07 AM »
It"s a preview for what many cities will be like if Biden/Harris win.

I actually think it is a preview of how things will be if Trump wins...
Remember the left's reaction when he won the first time?

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Re: The George Floyd riots in Mpls
« Reply #391 on: October 13, 2020, 09:29:57 AM »
I actually think it is a preview of how things will be if Trump wins...
Remember the left's reaction when he won the first time?

If Trump wins, their funding will vanish and their shield from prosecution will vanish.  If Biden wins they will have nearly unlimited resources provided to them and all federal law enforcement, which is only thing which has held them at bay at all, will be removed.  Remember, many of these criminals have already been released numerous times, bailed out by Biden campaign sourced money.  Imagine them having carte-blanche pardon in their pocket.

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Re: The George Floyd riots in Mpls
« Reply #392 on: October 13, 2020, 09:32:14 AM »
I don't see the right doing the same damage if he loses that we see from the left since he took office.  If (more likely when) he wins, the onus of responsibility for kicking off a continued ration of rioting and destruction will be entirely on the left.   And after a re-election, I can see the gov step up and do more to stop the the rioters and terrorists.  I think he was being a bit more careful with the election looming.     

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Re: The George Floyd riots in Mpls
« Reply #393 on: October 13, 2020, 09:51:03 AM »


https://www.foxnews.com/us/key-promoter-for-portlands-day-of-rage-wants-to-abolish-colonial-systems-report-says.amp
Promoter for Portland’s ‘Day of Rage’ wants to ‘abolish colonial systems,’ report says
Social media posts have added challenges to Portland police


The Twitter handle Generational Resistance, which promoted Sunday night’s “Day of Rage” in Portland that resulted in the toppling of two statues and damage to several buildings, said its ultimate goal is to “decolonize society by working to abolish colonial systems rooted in racism,” a report said.

The Oregonian newspaper wrote a lengthy article about the group that started mentioning the protest a day earlier.
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The report said one of the instructions on Sunday was that videos and photos were not allowed.
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The paper said it reached out to Generational Resistance members and was issued a statement through its Twitter handle Monday night that read, “We stand to decolonize ourselves and decolonize society by working to abolish colonial systems rooted in racism and build community rooted in liberation.”

President Trump took to Twitter on Monday and posted, “The Radical Left fools in Portland don’t want any help from real Law Enforcement which we will provide instantaneously. Vote!”

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Re: The George Floyd riots in Mpls
« Reply #394 on: October 25, 2020, 08:21:44 AM »
A Minnesota judge dismissed the 3rd degree charges against Chauvin. The actual trial is set for January which is pure brilliance because no matter the result nobody is rioting in Minneapolis in January. You'd lose toes. What's interesting to watch on a local level is that the DA is trying to find the law that will stick but ultimately running into the sad fact that the police basically have carte blanche to beat the crap out of you if they feel it's warranted.

So we're in a bit of a spiral. We can all watch an officer kneel on a guy for 9 minutes which looks beyond the pale to anyone with an evolved sense of human dignity but we also have to ask what "carved in stone" law was actually broken and we have to prosecute a murder when the cause of death is most likely drugs which presumably the police didn't force on Mr. Floyd.

The sad result is that we are left with little more than "I know what I saw was wrong and it should have been handled better" but no real consequence or change.

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Re: The George Floyd riots in Mpls
« Reply #395 on: October 25, 2020, 09:15:40 AM »
A Minnesota judge dismissed the 3rd degree charges against Chauvin. The actual trial is set for January which is pure brilliance because no matter the result nobody is rioting in Minneapolis in January. You'd lose toes. What's interesting to watch on a local level is that the DA is trying to find the law that will stick but ultimately running into the sad fact that the police basically have carte blanche to beat the crap out of you if they feel it's warranted.

It could never be 3rd degree.  As we discussed near start of thread, it can only be 2nd degree:. That third degree was proposed was either incompetence on the part of the prosecutor or an attempt to fuel riots.

It's pretty straight forward.  There is no premeditation therefore 1st is out unless new evidence emerges otherwise.  This was obviously felony level assault so if death is unintentional it would be murder 2.  Not to mention desire to cause injury also makes it murder 2 even if assault not felony.  And if intentional, which could be argued given other police officer suggested he change position but declined to do so, that too would be murder 2.  Murder 3 makes no sense.

They did not drop the second degree charges.  That has been the only legitimate option from the start. Problem for them is that the earlier video makes a conviction on murder 2 completely unlikely unless they succeed in seating a completely biased jury.  Which doesn't seem realistic given the judge appears competent.