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Armory, Self Defense, And EDC => Edged Weapons and Tools => Topic started by: barnesglobal on January 19, 2009, 07:22:43 AM

Title: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: barnesglobal on January 19, 2009, 07:22:43 AM
The more I look at different websites, the more I realize their are different kinds of kinives and I just might not know how to use them properly.  I understand fundamentally how to skin an animal, and how to use a gut hook.  I have even seen some fundamentals on knife fighting...but there are so many different varients of knives.  Can someone guide me on which kind is designed for what?

Thanks in advance

Barnesglobal
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on January 20, 2009, 02:19:12 AM
Wow, I'm not sure where to even start to answer that.  You're right though, there are a myriad of designs for different things.  Are you looking for something in particular or just a general info type thing.

Are you looking at any knives in particular?  Is there something in particular you want to do with the knife...i.e.  fighter vs. skinner, butcher vs. boning knife?  I could write a whole article on types of knives & their uses, but I'm not sure I'm that committed. ;D 
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: barnesglobal on January 20, 2009, 07:19:59 AM
I have a couple of knives...A ka-bar, A game processing kit, some small folders, but I guess I am trying to figure out what all the different variants of knives?  I look at a few designs - the hooking designs and I am not talking about ones designed for gutting an animal - and I think a different grip - what we refer to as a cammando grip in my martials arts class - and I would get all of that utility and more.  So I guess this is a long way of saying, 1) untimately as a budding survivalist, what do I need?, 2) What is legal for every day carry - I live in Texas, and 3) if the SHTF, what kind of knife will I wish I had for either self defense, hunting, and ultimatley self preservation?

Barnesglobal
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: TXChikk on January 20, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
I understand your desire to better understand edged weapons and my quest led me to this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/user/nutnfancy

I'm sure there are more informative sites out there but I am a visual learner so I want to 'see' everything. I am merely suggesting this as a way to filter through the myriad information sites out there and I don't think this guy is the 'best' but it is a place to start. I really came across him because I wanted to see him snare a deer but all he did was make the snare and I didn't actually see a deer in his trap sooo....

I just know he 'reviews' all sorts of edged weapons and guns.....just a 2 cents post here.......
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: barnesglobal on January 20, 2009, 11:43:15 AM
Maybe I am not asking the right questions... What kind of knives should I have in a SHTF scenario?  Other than the self defense aspect, does this really vary from a successful hunting/fishing/camping trip?

Barnesglobal
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: DeltaEchoVictor on January 21, 2009, 05:41:15 AM
There is a discussion in This thread (http://thesurvivalpodcast.com/forum/index.php?topic=63.0) about various knives & their uses.  Give it a look & see if any of your questions are answered there.

You should probably have a couple of different options available and that's part of what's discussed in the thread I linked.

A good fixed blade, something for hacking brush & something for cutting larger woody vegetation are all things I carry at various times.  When I head to the woods I always carry a fixed blade sheath knife, I usually carry a Cold Steel LTC kukri for clearing paths & taking down saplings.  I keep a Gransfors Bruks hatchet in my Jeep with my take down .22, so that's available if needed as well.  I carry a Gerber Paraframe everyday clipped in my front pocket.

I have a few tactical type knives but realistically I don't really have a use for them.  I'm a bit of a knife collector who also uses everything he collects, but honestly I've never had a need to actually use any of my tactical(ish) knives.

If you just had a good stout fixed blade with a 5" to 8" blade & a hatchet or machete, you'd have about everything you need.  Obviously everyone is going to have varying opinions but you can do a lot with just those two items.
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: BigDanInTX on January 21, 2009, 06:35:09 AM
What kind of knives should I have in a SHTF scenario?
Well, you definitely need a good "beater" knife, like Jack mentioned in the latest BOB show.  One that is used for all of the rough stuff like cutting off twigs from branches, a utility sort of knife.  Long, but not like a machete or a bowie.  This needs to be VERY durable and hold a good edge.  Doesn't have to be kept super sharp all the time.  Go to http://knifetests.com (http://knifetests.com) and see what they reviewed there.  There are some knives that survived A LOT of abuse and performed really well.

Aside from that, maybe a smaller utility knife for smaller jobs and a good folder.  It really takes a while to get familiar with knives to know what you like and don't like.  I started buying some this year and each has good and bad qualities.  I have tried to purchase one to replace my current EDC (every day carry), but I haven't found one yet.  Until you actually try it out, you don't really know how it is.  Best thing to do is go to a store where they sell knives and let you actually handle them.  Then, you can get a better feel.
Title: Re: How to use different kinds of knives
Post by: khristopher23 on March 08, 2009, 10:13:01 PM
IMHO There are several basics you should have covered. I will list them in the order that I most often use them.

1.) A good quality pocket knife

        Probably a Swiss Army Knife from Victorinox or Wenger. Mine is a Victoirnox and I have it with me ALL the time. I actually prefer
        the 3 bladed stockman style knives, especially from Case ( a real thing of beauty with the amber bone handle), but honestly a
        general purpose pocket knife is likely to get used to pry stuff, as a screwdriver, .....etc, just as much as things a knife was
        intended for. The Swiss Army knife has blades for this. Also the Swiss Army is a less expensive than a good quality USA made
        stockman. It is a sickening feeling to hear the blade snap on a $60 case that is being used as a $2 screwdriver.

2.) A multi-tool w/locking blades

     This is usually on my belt, or in a bag I carry with me to work everyday. Sometimes it is replaced on my belt by a Buck Folding
     Hunter, but usually I carry the Leatherman Supertool. It is a bit heavy, and I keep wanting to upgrade to a Wave model, but they
     are about $70. Used in conjunction w/the Swiss army knife, you can do a few more light repairs( i.e. using the Swiss Army to turn
     a small screw, while holding the nut w/the multi-tools pliers.

3.) A good quality one hand opener

    This is the one I have put off the longest, as I have usually carried a Buck Folding Hunter in a bag to work w/me everyday. If I
    carried it on my belt, the multi-tool was in the bag, not too far from me. But one of the thin one handed openers will fit in a front
    pocket w/the Swiss Army, and not add a lot of weight. I just bought my first good quality one handed knife today (what can I say
    I'm slow to change). It is a Spyderco. I really wanted a Benchmade, but again the $$ thing. I got a real good price on the
    Spyderco. Kershaw and Gerber also make reliable one handers from what I have heard. My first one was a S&W several years ago,
   which just about ruined me on them from the get go.

4.) A good quality lockback hunting knife

     The Buck Model 110 Folding Hunter- need I say more.
     Honestly, with all the others, this is the one you could probably leave out if you got a high quality one handed knife, but I think
     everyone should own at least on 110 once in their life. To me it has a perfect feel and balance, although some people don't like
     the 440 steel, because it is hard to sharpen. It is a good knife to carry in a small bag or something though.

5.) A good quality fixed blade hunting knife

     These are highly personal things w/many varied opinions. Some people like'em big, some people like'em small. In all honesty, you'll
     probably end up w/several. Again I like Bucks, but there is a lot of other good brands out there. I'm sure some are better than
     Buck, but like I said, it's a personal thing. To me though, I'm still in search of the perfect one. Right now I have the Buck Special
    #119 and the Woodsman #102. To me the 119 is a little too big for general use, and the Woodsman while almost perfect,
    doesn't have a handle quite long enough to fit my hand for extended use. I'm gonna try the pathfinder model, which is in
    between, but I haven't bought one as of yet.
     
    I am interested in some of the high(er) end knives, such as the Dozier KS-7 Wilderness Knife, or the Bison Bushcraft Knife, but
   these are $200+ knives with almost a year wait. Maybe someday.

6.) a "tactical" knife

     Can't be much help here as I don't own a good one yet, but I'm thinking KABAR. There are plenty others to choose from, but for
     the $$ I hear they are hard to beat. If worst came to worst right now, I believe I could get by w/my Buck Special. It would not,
     however, be my first choice in a combat situation. Well, it did work pretty well on the "Scream" movies.

7.) a hatchet

     Right now, mine is an Eastwing sportsman's axe, but I want to upgrade to a Gransfors Wildlife hatchet before long. A good thing
     have in a daypack while hunting on hiking. It is the axe to have with you when you don't think you'll need an axe.

8.) a full size axe

    Mainly to be kept at home for the more heavy duty chopping, splitting. Again I wanna upgrade. I currently have a Collins double
    bit, but I like the looks of the Snow and Nealley double bit. Most people recommend a single bit for safety, but I like the double
    because you can keep one end really sharp for felling/limbing, and use one thicker for splitting or risky swings that might hit the
    ground.

9.) a mid sized axe

    Something like the Hudson Bay axe from Snow and Nealley, or the Small Forest Axe from Gansfors. The latter would be my choice.
    Again, I don't own one, but I looked one over real close at a local sporting goods store and it was awesome. This would be a good
    axe to keep in the truck, or take camping, etc. The small forest axe will be my next axe purchase.


Sorry to ramble on, I don't even know if you were interested in axes or not, but I consider them part of my cutlery needs. Oh yeah,
don't forget the machete. You'll need that for when the zombies invade (or clearing brush in the backyard) !!!