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Ideas for extra income
« on: September 30, 2008, 06:25:02 PM »
I have often thought about some sort of side business to generate extra income. The problem though is finding something people actually want to spend money on -locally or through the net. Startup money is also a major issue.

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Great with computers, some linux. Lack certifications however.
Experienced with hydroponics
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Thought about candles, but wax is expensive to ship/buy.
General, small knick-knack type of items. Fire pistons for example.
A local preparedness shop, selling mylar bags, buckets, tents, a nice markup on wheat from the feed mill, etc.

Perhaps we could post ideas here for like minded people.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2008, 06:00:07 AM »
Scrap recycling.  My friend works for a foundry.  There is a guy there who dumpster dives for the electric motors they throw out.  He pulls the copper wire and recycles it.  I'm sure he also recycles the housings as scrap.

Stripped, clean copper wire is going for about $3.30/lb here.

My brother in law works for a major appliance store.  He does deliveries.  They promise to take away the old washer/dryer, refridgerator, or stove.  The store lets the delivery guys keep any of the take away units they want.  A lot of it still works fine, but doesn't "match" the remodelled kitchen or something.  He got his sister a stand up freezer.  I got a refrigerator and a dryer.  All for free.  The rest he takes to the junk yard.  They put them in a car before they crush it for extra weight.  In exchange the owner gives him a car to run in the junk car races plus any parts he needs to get it running.  Then he just gives the smashed car back.  Technically he isn't allowed to "sell" any of the take-aways, so he just "barters" like this instead.


I have all the equipment to DJ weddings and parties.  Up front costs are high, and it can be expensive keeping all the music current.  At most of the weddings I have done, I played 80% older songs anyway.  I was getting between $350 and $500 for 5 hours of playing music on a Saturday.  At that price, I was also under cutting the "Major" companies by $200 or more.  Plus, I played until everyone was done.  Most places I have dealt with quote a price for 4 hours, plus $75 or $100 per hour over 4.  I had a friend who like to help me set up, tear down, take requests, find songs.  I paid him $100 to basically hang out with me, talk to bridesmaids, and eat catered food.

  I now have 3 kids so I don't DJ anymore.  I have been thinking about getting it all together again and doing a couple gigs a year.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2008, 09:27:54 AM »
This is a great thread and it inspired today's show

http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/episode-66-secondary-income-opportunites-for-modern-survival

I hope that spurs more discussion on this subject.  The key to modern survival is creating more local economies and this is a great way to jump start that.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2008, 11:50:07 AM »
Hire out your farm equipment. I want to buy a dump truck or log truck for extra $$$$. Or you could start a side business like a Janitorial and find a couple small businesses to clean in the evening when they were closed.
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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2008, 01:13:52 PM »
Good suggestion Bailey.  Also back hoe, a dozer or even a bobcat type machine can net some good side cash as well.  I just personally would want to provide it "with operator",  :o I have seen what can happen to true "rental equipment".  OUCH!

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2008, 01:57:47 PM »
One I forgot to mention today.

Grow mushrooms, specifically shitaki, very expensive, great tasting, store well and all you need is spores and some logs and a place to keep them.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2008, 06:31:47 PM »
You had mentioned about poop picking ;)
Would you believe they have franchised operations all across the nation? 

I can't remember the name of the truck I saw in Ashburn, VA, but almost fell off the bike when I saw it. (www.doodycalls.com) :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2008, 07:34:29 PM »
Yeah, they just started advertising here in the Austin area!  =-]

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2008, 08:40:04 PM »
I know a guy who goes and gets the free stuff listed on Craigs list, just stuff they are giving away but still has some value and then he puts it up for sale on Craigslist!

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2008, 05:18:49 AM »
Depending on the area you live in a small Limo service could make some extra dough.  You can go to an auction and buy a Limo that is 5 years old or so for fairly cheap.  Just make sure it's clean inside and out.  Even if it doesn't have all the modern stuff.  You could rent yourself out as a Budget Limo service.  Other than the bar and TVs and stuff, upkeep is the same as a regular car.

FYI: Some states require a special license to chauffer people, so look into that.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2008, 10:14:05 AM »
The thing I would pursue for extra income would be original comic art/commisions, or graphic design (like logo design).

At the last comic convention I went to I made over $500 doing sketches ($20 inked, $15 penciled). Each sketch took around 2 hours, and I was there for 2 days. The table cost me $35, and the gas was about $20.

I can keep going to conventions, but I'd also like to do more at home. My biggest hurdle is HOW DO I ADVERTISE MY SERVICES BEST? I don't know why I struggle with this so much. Maybe I should just pick a way and try it. My deal is I freeze up and do nothing until I feel I have the PERFECT solution.

I COULD try advertising doing sketches on ebay as a "Buy it Now" thing. There are also sites where you can sell your original art. I can see how that goes.

Also, it doesn't cost a thing for me to set up a myspace and facebook page, advertising my work.

And finally, once I've done a year's worth of webcomics, I'll collect the pages into a book at sell it at conventions as well. I've noticed the best thing to do in the case of your own comic is to be persistant, and just keep building a fan base. If you can get past the slow start, it will grow.

I totally see what Jack's saying in the podcast where we develope a worker mentality and won't be our own boss. I need to break out of that. My issue is, I don't trust my business sense.

I would LOVE any advice.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2008, 11:19:26 AM »
Put up a website stating you'll do caricatures/sketches with provided art.  You could set it up so they can send you the image via upload, pay the fee, etc.  Obviously your turnaround isn't that bad and you can either send them a digital scan of the sketch, the physical one, or both.  =-]

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2008, 02:49:27 PM »
Jack, I listened to your podcast today about extra income and I am really interested in those do it yourself alternative energy videos. The way you described what content you want from that as in "buy this and bolt this together" etc would be exactly what Im looking for. If they do contain that and not just a lecture about theory Id be interested in buying it.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2008, 03:01:39 PM »
I had a couple of those ideas that rang true with me.  The senior citizen one is one I could do pretty well.  When I was up here on contract by myself (family was still in Houston), I rented a room from a guy who was paraplegic.  He had caretakers come in to take care of him, do his mail, etc.  While I think I couldn't handle (nor am I qualified to) the bathing, changing, catheter type stuff, I could definitely handle an old person's mail and shopping!

Also, the learning how to install solar panels.  That idea is HUGE.  I just wish I had extra capital I could use to get some damn solar panels and figure it all out.  That could quickly be turned into a multi-truck business in no time!!  I need to tap the people I know to see if any of them know an electrician.  Some simple research and brainstorming could help for sure.

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2008, 03:48:53 PM »
Put up a website stating you'll do caricatures/sketches with provided art.  You could set it up so they can send you the image via upload, pay the fee, etc.  Obviously your turnaround isn't that bad and you can either send them a digital scan of the sketch, the physical one, or both.  =-]

That's a good idea too!

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2008, 07:47:45 AM »
I had an idea once to get a truck and do the oil change in the parking lot thing.  I figured that it would be too hard to get any businesses to allow me operate in their lot.  It would also be difficult because the customers would have to come outside twice during their shift.  I doubt they'd be able to do it.

So I scrapped the idea.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2008, 07:57:27 AM »
Better one would be to do mobile oil changes.  Basically, have people call you out to change their oil wherever they are.

This can be broadened further to auto repair in general.  There's alot of things you can do on a car that take just a few hours.  Charge for the parts plus a flat fee for your labor.  I believe mechanics get discounts on the parts at many parts stores, so tell your customers about the discount and that you're saving them money and charge a reasonable rate.  =-]

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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2008, 10:20:07 AM »
I had an idea once to get a truck and do the oil change in the parking lot thing.  I figured that it would be too hard to get any businesses to allow me operate in their lot.  It would also be difficult because the customers would have to come outside twice during their shift.  I doubt they'd be able to do it.

So I scrapped the idea.

A buddy of mine is in the process of launching a franchise of fleet oil changing service where they have a truck they send out to change oil on site. I think the truck has some special gear for safely handling oil disposal.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2008, 10:31:39 AM »
Anyone have experience setting up a website that handles online transactions? I need to accept credit cards or checks and deposit that into an account.

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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2008, 10:40:12 AM »
Anyone have experience setting up a website that handles online transactions? I need to accept credit cards or checks and deposit that into an account.

The easiest was is to use PayPal, but they also take the most money. Otherwise you need a Merchant Account, a Credit Card Transaction Gateway provider, and
an SSL Certificate on your server. At least that's what I went through a few years ago.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2008, 10:57:28 AM »
I was hoping to avoid paypal. I'll look into the Merchant account. Thanks.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2008, 01:49:54 PM »
Also, the learning how to install solar panels.  That idea is HUGE.  I just wish I had extra capital I could use to get some damn solar panels and figure it all out.  That could quickly be turned into a multi-truck business in no time!!  I need to tap the people I know to see if any of them know an electrician.  Some simple research and brainstorming could help for sure.

I'm trying to get training as a solar installer so I could pick up some extra work and change my career direction. Just need to get the time and $ for the training...

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2008, 04:00:55 PM »
Also, the learning how to install solar panels.  That idea is HUGE.  I just wish I had extra capital I could use to get some damn solar panels and figure it all out.  That could quickly be turned into a multi-truck business in no time!!  I need to tap the people I know to see if any of them know an electrician.  Some simple research and brainstorming could help for sure.

I'm trying to get training as a solar installer so I could pick up some extra work and change my career direction. Just need to get the time and $ for the training...

I know Im interested in this also because I know a journeyman electrician who would be down with something like this.

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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2008, 04:23:41 PM »
I gave the mobile oil change idea some thought a while ago. I'm a college student and while i work full time I am always looking for extra cash.  I gave up on the oil idea when i figured most people would just go to a jiffy lube. Even though some people would like the convenience of having it done at work, i didn't think the conveneience would allow me to charge enough to make it worth my time.  The problem is in these times of economic hardship, what can people afford?

One idea, as mentioned earlier, is live in elderly care. A family friend pays a woman $3k a month to live at her parents home. They are elderly and while mentally sharp, they are both frail.  This woman has no car so she doesn't even take them to the doctor. Doesn't cook their meals or anything.  Pretty sweet set up. $3k a month, rent free, just to be there. Still cheaper than a home.

I like the idea of grocery shopping for the elderly. No skill required, you can combine trips to save gas, possible tips. i like it. 

I was trying to talk my dad into some kind of garden consulting. He has a real green thumb but wasn't interested. As times get tougher he may change his tune.

Good ideas all around guys, i look forward to seeing more.

Thanks Jack!

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2008, 01:51:26 PM »
You had mentioned about poop picking ;)
Would you believe they have franchised operations all across the nation? 

I can't remember the name of the truck I saw in Ashburn, VA, but almost fell off the bike when I saw it. (www.doodycalls.com) :D :D :D :D :D
(I shit you not :))

There is a local guy called Mr. Scoop here in PA.

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2008, 03:11:58 PM »
If you are an educator there is a huge market for pre made lesson plans for teachers. My woman is a teacher and she knows ppl that have quite their teaching careers to just focus on this.

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« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2008, 06:30:51 PM »
Something I just thought of the other day was metal detecting for hire. I figure you could use your metal detector to help people find items they have lost such as rings, earrings etc. You could also search peoples property if they think that they may have some old coins in the ground. You could either charge an hourly rate or work out a split of the take.  I'm not how profitable this would be, but if you do it anyway, making a few bucks wouldn't hurt! Personally I work in the IT field and do a fair amount of PC work on the side. Since its my free time I am pretty flexible on the payment. just the other day I worked on a farmers computer and when he pulled his check book out I told him that if I could hunt on his ground we could just call it even. I ended up getting permission for the 3 farms he owns!
I think everyone has a skill, either what they do for a living or as a hobby that has some market value.  You may not get rich but anything extra helps.  I try to use the "extra" money I make to buy, guns, ammo, silver etc. I know a 13 year old boy that has make $250.00 in a day shoveling snow!  There is money to be made, the trick is just finding out how!

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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2008, 08:38:52 PM »

Is this something you have experience with? I have a hundred acres of oak and hardwoods and have often thought it would be a good business but I know nothing about it.


One I forgot to mention today.

Grow mushrooms, specifically shitaki, very expensive, great tasting, store well and all you need is spores and some logs and a place to keep them.


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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2008, 03:54:07 PM »
Daniel61,
I have some experiences growing edible mushrooms. Do you have a pressure cooker? You will need one to sterilize the spawn used to inoculate the logs. You will also need a drill to put holes in the log, a spawn plunger to insert the spawn into the hole, and some wax to seal it up. If you have a large box HEPA filter (larger than 12x24") then you may want to construct a laminar flow hood for working with your cultures. It will greatly reduces the risk of contamination. Paul Stamet's site sell all the tools you would need to get started, however, you can find them cheaper elsewhere. http://www.fungi.com/plugs/plugs.html

www.shroomery.org is another great resource for growing edibles (as well as the 'other' kind)


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Re: Ideas for extra income
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2008, 09:11:30 PM »
Growing and selling Shiitake mushrooms is huge if there's an Asian community near you, especially Japanese.